Transcript: Council Opposes Park Expropriation - City Council - April 23, 2026 | Summary 715

Okay, members of council, we do have a quorum. This meeting is now resumed. Please take your seats. Members of council, All right. Um, members, we do have a presentation this morning to recognize National Volunteer Week and the 2026 recipients of the Toronto Community Champion Award. I would like to call upon Mayor Chow to give the presentation. Well, good morning. Uh this April 19th to 25th is the National Volunteer Week. Volunteers contribute their time, talent, and energy to make the communities better and stronger. And volunteers serve their communities selflessly. We're grateful for the kindness and leadership. And there are many community community organizations across the city of Toronto who rely on volunteers to run their programs and provide services to the residents of our city. Um, I want to take this time to recognize the representatives of the 2026 Toronto Community Champion Awards who are here with us in the chambers today. Let's give them a big round of applause. We're doing so uh this week because it is the national volunteer week and many of the community organizations re work very closely with volunteers turn volunteers into leaders then uh then provide incredible support and services to the n to the residents and the neighbors they represent. Uh, the Toronto Community Champion Award program is one of the city's most special awards. Launched in 2022, the Champion Award recognized the outstanding contributions of community organizations that support the health and well-being of Toronto residents. This award has focused on organizations that support indigenous, black, and other equity deserving communities. What makes the Toronto Community Champion Award program so special is that the nominations are driven by local residents. People nominate organizations based on their own lived experience. So, it's very much from the grounds up. They they have seen firsthand the impact these groups have in their own neighborhoods and communities. The Toronto Community Champion Award shines a light on organizations that are deeply deeply connected to the communities they serve. These organizations understand the fabric, the unique fabric of our city and work collaboratively to address local needs and advance equity and local services. I want to thank and applaud each and every one of these organizations for the work they do, for making lives better to all the people they serve, for creating leaders, creating champions, giving people purpose, and making lives so much uh better. And thank you for your caring approach. Uh without you, Toronto really wouldn't be a nice place to be. Um I also want to applaud the partners who helped make this year's Toronto Community Champion Award program a success. I would like to thank the United Way of Greater Toronto. I think they're here. Ambridge. Yes. Yes. Yes. And uh thank you for your support. I think we're going to have a good party also later on, right? In in May, I believe. Yeah. Thank you as well to the members of our selection panel from Volunteer Toronto and Two Spirit People of the First Nation. Thank you for your hard work. and to the city clerk's office, strategic protocol and external relations office who leads the Toronto community champion award in partnership with social development and Toronto Public Health. Not only you work as a team, Toronto at city government also has a team approach and is very much witnessed as you can see from this uh program. Now to officially announce the recipients listed up on the screen. Ta. You'll see the names of all 25 organizations who are to receive the 2026 Toronto Community Champion Award at a very special ceremony to take place next month. That is the time when you can we can bring together our neighbors, your family members, your co-workers because it is a huge community celebration. Um, I want to uh now ask all the counselors and folks that are here to formally recognize the representatives uh of these organization to please stand and be recognized. Come on, let's see you. Don't be shy for all the work you've done. Let's give them a great round of applause. Everyone, thank you for your amazing work. Thank you. Uh, your vital work. Let me maybe use a United Way quote, right? Without you, there's no way. Am I is that the slogan? Yeah, it's one of the slogan. Nation is very pleased that I'm using that line. Uh before I go, uh I want or uh I want to remind counselors that they will have received the invitation to next month's ceremony honoring these organizations, these champions. I look forward for you to join uh everyone here. Uh I believe it's a May 12. May 12. A nice day. Warm too. It's a beautiful May day. So come on. It's in the evening. Come and join us. Let us uh watch a short video about Toronto Community Champions Award program. This is what it is about. Community champions. But what drives you? What makes you become a volunteer? What makes you hold tight to each other? Is the belief that together we are stronger. And the belief that we can make a difference not just in each other's lives, but our entire community, our neighborhood. Change starts and ends when people who care say that yes we can together and that's what you are doing. Your work, your leadership, your partnership. Let's keep going together. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Mayor Chow, I understand that you would like to say a few words, make an announcement at this time. Yes. Um, Chan, would you also like to say a few words after? Name to speak. Okay. Following you. Yeah. Good. Thank you. Just double checking. From the most joyous to the most tragic. A world is like this sometimes. Eight years ago on this day, April 23rd, 2018, an unimaginable and deliberate act of violence took place on Young Street in North York. 11 people were killed, 15 others were injured. This tragedy changed our city. It left a lasting impact on families, survivors, first responders, and all who witnessed it. Today, we remember those who died as a result of this tragedy. Loved ones, neighbors, friends. Their lives were taken far too soon. We also honor the courage and compassion shown that day by the first responders, including Toronto Police Service, Toronto Fire Services, and the Toronto Paramedic Services, and by the many bystanders who step forward to help. As a city, we remain committed to remembrance. Work is underway to create a permanent memorial at Olive Square Park thanks to the efforts of councelor Lily Chang. And we are taking an important steps forward by launching a design competition for that memorial tomorrow. Now I ask you all to join me. Well, before we do the moment of silence, uh let us uh hear from councelor Chang and then we will have a moment of silence and reflection for the 11 lives lost and in support of all those who were injured and impacted by this tragic event. And of course, we will do everything we can if there's any possibility to prevent such tragedy from happening again. Council Chang. Thank you, Council Chang. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, eight years ago was the first beautiful spring day after a very long and dreary winter, and we all brushed outside to feel that warmth of light. And we couldn't imagine what would unfold that day. And by evening, our vibrant stretch of Young Street was silent, closed with tarps covering bodies on the ground. And it was such a dark moment for our neighborhood and for our city. We never imagined that here in Canada we would face this kind of violence in our midst. But somehow our community held each other through that dark moment. And I just want to give so much thanks to the people who rallied that evening and committed to serving the community in a meaningful way that they knew that the neighborhood would need some care to go through the grief and shock. and people like Pastor Shan Ha who checked in on business owners throughout the first couple of months just to see if they were doing okay or Omar Hassan who made sure that the memorials that were set up were wellkept that the candles stayed lit in the evening. Alan Sperling who made sure that music was played along Young Street to help those who were grieving. and Jesse James who co-founded We Love Willowdale with a group of people who wanted to shepherd our community. And what I think we saw emerge is something that speaks to the resilience and strength of our city that in a hard and dark moment we came together. We saw signs that said Toronto strong, Willowell strong. And they weren't just a catchphrase. It really happened. And so from that emerged a group, a movement called we love Willowdale. And that group has continued to ripple change in our neighborhood. In fact, one of those immense ripples is recognized here today. Neighborlink North York, uh, founded really from the momentum from We Love Willowdale that led to the COVID response network, that led to the start of a food bank, that led to Neighborlink North York becoming the organization that it is today. I think also of the Demo family and they turned their grief into the Anmarie Demo Foundation that is helping women and children who are facing violence at home and they've already raised a million dollars and continue to raise funds and awareness to support women and children. In fact, they are hosting High Tea with Ann Marie on Sunday, June 7th and would welcome your attendance. This is how we are as a city. In moments of darkness, we come together. We care for each other. We lift each other up. And we actually do turn darkness into light. We actually do see beauty rise from the ashes. And so anyone who is facing a hard time today, I hope that you will be encouraged to remember the resilience of our city in a hard moment and to remember that we are stronger together. Thank you. And moment of silence, please. Thank you. Councelor Myers, you have an announcement. Uh, yes. Thank you. Uh on March 26, 2026, staff from the city's engineering and construction services division proudly supported a successful national engineering event at Lester B. Pearson Collegiate Institute in Ward 23 Scarbor North. This event was truly one for the books with an outstanding turnout of more than 90 students engaging with city staff through interactive learning labs showcasing current engineering principles as well as modern construction and surveying methods. I would like to thank Lester B. Pearson Collegiate Institute for hosting city staff, the many members of the Toronto Public Service who helped make this event possible, and all those who participated by sharing their experiences and expertise to inspire the next generation of engineers. I look forward to seeing initiatives like this continue to thrive in our communities year after year. Thank you. members. Uh the city clerk has advised me that additional materials are now available for members review in the clerk's meeting portal and online. EX30.12 implementation of uh RG1-26 under the liquor license and control act and the city clerk has submitted a supplementary report with recommendations. Um and CC 40.5-34 to70 Montgomery Avenue Ontario Land Tribunal hearing and councelor Cole has advanced circulated motion with a confidential attachment. Um members, we will now review and confirm the order paper. Once the order paper has been approved by council, any change will need a twothirds vote. The city clerk has posted today's order paper online with agenda item RM40.7, review of the order paper. There are 65 items left on the agenda, including 41 member motions. The mayor has timed to second key matter item PH 29.4 headed rent safe update as the first item of business this morning. Council has has timed item EX30.1 headed headed critical investments in street light infrastructure for public safety as the first item of business following the mayor's key matter. I will now take the release of holes. The clerk will the clerk will open the speaker's list and CMP and you can place your name on the list if you have an item to release. Councelor Cole. Oh, just one moment. Okay. I'd like to uh release uh CC 40.5 uh with an amendment that's been advanced circulated. Okay. So, Councelor Cole is releasing CC 40.5 with the attachment. Okay. All in favor if any carried. Item is amended. On favor carried. Are there any further quick releases? Councelor Pastronak. Did you have your hand up? Councelor Pastronac. Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to release IE 20 28.6 six seeking clarity on the city of Toronto's application the community support and recreation infrastructure fund. I don't think there's anything more to add to the discussion. I would alert the city manager that I understand the next trunch of funding comes out in August. Okay. So, councelor Pastor is releasing IE28.6. Uh yes. Um all favor carry. Councelor Fax. Oh, yes. Thank you. I can release two items, please. Um, EC27.2, Review of Toronto Street Vending and Artist by Okay, just one sec. Let me find it. EC27.2. Yes. Okay. Well, you can take it. Okay. Well, yeah. So, I was going to release EC27.2, the street vending bylaw. Mr. Councelor Holiday wishes to take that over. Oh, okay. So, councelor Holidayiday, you'll take the hold on that. And uh EC27.7, food and beverage offerings in parks. EC 27.7 counc wants to release. Pardon? Okay. So then it's not a quick release. Okay. Thank you. So we'll continue to hold it. Are there any further releases? Okay, speaker. I can't pardon. Uh, speaker, I I'm not able to get to CN Bravo. Yes. Yes. I'd like to release uh EX302 implementation of regul 26 under it's a control and Oh, the the liquor license one. Yes, the liquor license one. Correct. So, councelor Bravo, are you um going to uh to release the supplementary uh report as well? Yes, I'm Okay. So, on ex 30. Okay. Pardon? Okay. So, on EX30.12, it's on the screen. All favor of any carried. Thank you. Item is amended. All in favor? Carried. Thank you. Are there any further releases? Okay. So, we'll now go to the um PH29.4, which is the mayor's key item on rent safe update. So, if we have any questions to staff, if you can please put pardon. Oh, favor of adopting the order paper. Okay, we do have staff. Um, so are there any questions to um staff? No. Everyone okay? No questions. All right. Do we have any speakers? Mayor, it was your item. Did you want to just speak on it? Okay. Mayor Chow, thank you. Well, we all know, especially uh you, Madame Speaker, that half of Toronto Torantronians rent their homes. And when a landlord fails them, when the moat spread, when the pest stays, when the wall crumbles and no one cares, they deserve a city that show up for them. And that's what we are doing. That's what we're building. Through this year's budget, we've doubled the number of rent safe to bylaw enforcement officers from 36 to 73 with the authority to compel landlord to fix the problems. If not, we'll fix it for them and charge them. A few months ago, I visited $500 Road in Beaches East York. I met families that kept their clothes in big plastic bags because they worried that the cockroach will get into them and laid eggs. Can you imagine living like that? And that they I saw molds on the wall. I I saw um the ceiling some threatening to come down balcony that are not safe. windows that don't close properly. The common areas was crumbling and the basement, the parking area were leaking. Conditions that no one should have to live with. The tenants also said that their local counselors have not been able to help and have neglected their concerns, okay, for a few years. And the not only did they feel ignored, they said the buildings are neglected and they were totally desperate. Well, under my watch, no slum lord should be tolerated and I've made a commitment that we will take action. So, we did take the landlord to court and one. We hired contractors. Repairs have begun. We have now charged the landlord $200,000 in terms of fines that they have to pay. Pest control is underway so people don't have to live their lives with plastic bags. For the first time in far too long, they are seeing that city hall have stepped up for them. And it's about time. We Let me be clear about who did that work. It was not the local counselor uh and who is now claiming credit in the media. It was the tenants who refused to give up. It was city staff who acted when given the tools and the mandate. And it was my office and all of the city staff that showed up, went to court, make the charges, went back over and over again. They knock on every door of this building and said to the to the residents, "You're not alone. The bylaw enforcement officers there have been working hard." And it was tough. It was tough because that building was so bad that even Canada post the post office officers won't go in there. Our bylaw enforcement officers went in did the hard work went ahead with the charge and are now bringing contractors and making the changes. For the first time in quite a few years, the tenants are feeling hopeful. They felt their needs heard. They are in fact quite hitty. They said, "Wow, is this really happening?" And I want to thank the staff for really stepping up because I know you did. Um, it uh also included councelor Madllo who has been pushing hard for the rent safe uh those red, yellow, green signs and the colorcoded building scores. It's going to go into effect on June 15th. I think I know what this what color this building is going to be. Okay, I have a G. Let me guess. uh it's earlier than originally proposed because originally it was going to be later. We said no it needs to be earlier and faster and that is what is happening June 15th. Those signs put the information directly in tenants hands not just in this building in all the buildings across the city. And this landlord also owned other buildings in the city. And we will check, we will inspect, we will make sure that the residents will not be left out in the cold like this one. Our tenants are watching and they are asking us to step up. Let us show them we are on their side and we have their back. We do have a question for you, Councelor Burnside. Yeah, thank you through you, Madam Speaker. I apologize. I actually wanted to ask staff a question. Oh, go ahead. But I don't think I'm allowed to. I missed that. So, I'll just I'll try to channel this. Yeah. So, I'll do my best. So, I guess one So, yeah. Thank you. I say I apologize. I missed that um opportunity. So I guess my my one of my concerns is having worked uh you know in some of these areas where the buildings are less than satisfactory when it comes down to pests. One of the challenges is that the uh the building management does a big spray of all the units, but folks can prevent that happening in their unit and then so they're never really have the opportunity to um eradicate these pests because various units won't let them in. Is there anything in this or is there potentially anything that can be done to address that issue? because it it strikes me that we just keep going around in circles um if if we can't get into all the units to do the eradication that's uh necessary. I don't have a clear answer but I do know that uh they the rent safe officers because there are more of them now uh they are actually doing doortodoor campusing they're talking to the tenants and persuading them how important it is. It used to be uh they didn't used to do that kind of outreach. They're now doing that kind of outreach, persuading, working hard to persuade the the tenants that uh something needs to be done. Um and I think there are methodologies they deployed to make sure that the yeah that the pipes and all of that so that there's less spreading across the city across across the building. So, um would you sorry I just want to is my last thing. Um sorry for interrupting. Um is have you thought of using public health maybe as a resource? Yes. To um because I say that I it just seems like it's a really difficult one that we haven't really been able to solve. You know, this will improve things but it' be really nice if uh you are absolutely right. So what I did was I pulled together uh a meeting with uh the deputy the public health medical officer of health, the fire chief, the building officials, MLS all coming together and uh the housing secretariat all coming together working as a team. That hasn't happened in the past. And yes, public health are now directly involved as a team and so is fire because the the uh if the balcony is not safe, it it's fire and sometimes if the fire the smoke alarm is not working that's fire related. So yes, they are working as a team. Now the other thing that is happening that is new is that they are now pulling all their charges together in one spot. It used to be public health will go in and charge. MLS will put another charge and so we're building all separate coordinated. They are now coordinated through the housing secretariat which is exactly what is needed and there the database everything they meet together and coordinate the effort towards that building which is exactly what we need. So it's going to help but maybe we could also look at other things in the future in terms of getting into some of these units where they just won't let us in. Um yes because I just worry that the um we're we're ranking these these landlords and obviously a lot of them need to fail but sometimes there are circumstances beyond their control. Hopefully we consider that for the future. That was Yes, there is there is actually one one other group that I forgot to mention is because the housing secretariat also have a program called EPIC the eviction prevention um uh team often some of these tenants have other issues. Yes, it they could be hoarding. They might have mental health issues. They might be feeding the pigeon. So that's why they are come the you know the balcony is a total mess and these are the social workers that goes in and work with them that is now coordinated because the housing secretariat has the epic team that goes in so it's a holistic approach and it's not just MLS okay good because I just worry that sometimes staff gets blamed for things it's not their fault because it's a uh okay yeah the epic folks are also out there uh which is under housing secretary. They very much part of the team. Thank you. We're done. Thanks, Councelor Matlo to speak. Uh Madam Speaker, I have I have a couple of motions uh to contribute um that refer to uh looking at expanding the scope of rent safe to capture uh more buildings uh in the market. uh uh rather than uh than simply just the purpose-built uh rental buildings. Um and also uh reflecting uh concerns we hear from tenants about uh the you know the robustness of the uh nature of the door-to-door uh engagement along with information that tenants want to be fully included in the process uh rather than feeling far too often left out. And I want to begin by uh saying how uh grateful I am uh that we are moving uh forward with such incredibly necessary steps uh to bolster uh rent safe and give it more teeth and our work is not done and there's much more to do but I'm really grateful uh that we are uh where we are. When I first brought a motion uh to our tenant action committee that I chaired a few years ago uh to create rent safe, we tried to um make it resemble dine safe, meaning that um you know we want to make sure that when you go to a restaurant that you are safe and healthy. Why should your home be treated any less seriously? Um, and there are many good landlords in our city, but sadly there are far too many bad ones who have been neglectful of their tenants who treat renters like mere sources of revenue rather than respecting the fact that these are homes that they have a responsibility to protect both their health and their safety. Some of the measures that we went forward with, obviously when we first created Rents Safe, was to create the team to be able to go out and do audits and do inspections and make sure that there was a registry. And we we faced, by the way, a huge lobby campaign to try to fight this. Working with FMTA, working with ACORN and others, we had to fight really hard to even get basic protections for tenants out of city hall. And I'm so delighted that not only do we not have to fight anymore, but that the mayor is not only embracing it, but actually leaning into it and and and and some of the things that we were not successful in achieving in the last term, including color-coded signs and remedial action, are now coming through to fruition. And I'm very grateful uh for the mayor's advocacy and and such active uh support for tenants in this way. Uh because these are the tools that we have that we always did have that we weren't using adequately. We weren't using well and now we can. Um I want to make sure that tenants concerns are reflected in the very window in which they live. that they finally know that they're being heard by city hall and that their landlord is being held to account if they're being neglectful and uncaring. I want to make sure that a prospective tenant knows what they're walking into before they move in and they understand what kind of landlord they might have. I want to make sure whether it be on Dodge Road or any street in the city that if a landlord is being so uncaring and so neglectful that they're not doing the basics to keep their tenants safe that city hall will now go in and do the work for them and charge them after the fact. And 500 Daws is a perfect test case for remedial action. We need to be using administrative monetary penalties better to make sure that if a landlord doesn't care about anybody else, they might care about their own wallet. That's an enforcement tool that we have. We have to make sure that tenants feel engaged as part of the process. In other words, that we work for them, that we advocate for them, that we care about them, that it's not the landlord's needs that are our sole focus. We want to be fair to the landlord, but we want to respond to the concerns of the tenant who are living with whether it be pests, mold, whatever it could be. They need our support and they need to know that the city hall has their backs. Well, I believe that they do now. And I'm really and I'm really also very proud of all of my colleagues, every one of you who have advocated for tenants in your communities. I'm grateful to staff who are working hard to make the reforms, make the changes that we're asking them to because even when I've disagreed with you, I know that your heart's in the right place and I know that working together, we are going to be supporting tenants. Last thing I want to say is that, you know, this is the kind of issue where like virtually half of Torononians are renters and they have a provincial government that has been decreasing the amount of supports that they have known in the past and it's a shame that city hall has to fill that gap. But through the advocacy of so many of you, including councelor Fletcher, uh, when it comes to rent evictions and other matters, 5 seconds, I believe that we are all leaning into protecting tenants and I'm really proud of that. Thank you. Thank you. We do have a question for you. Councelor Pastnac, three minutes clarification. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Just uh as a point of clarification on item number one, how does this impact a privatelyowned condo units that are rented out by the owner but under the jurisdiction of a condo board? Well, it's it's, you know, similar to um any any purpose-built rental building that it may be privately owned, but given that the market has we have a secondary rental market already, we also are seeing the market now where buildings that were being built as condos are now changing and becoming rental units that there still has to be a way to ensure that we're able to go in there and support the tenants. Um, but typically, uh, I think what you're going to find is that the majority of these cases, you're going to be seeing buildings that were initially going to be built as condos and now they're going to be they're going to turn into rental. So, there may actually end up being a property manager, etc. And we want to make sure we capture that in our scope. You think there's a a tipping point in which uh developers will no longer build purpose-built rental if we regulate them out of business? You know, what I hear from most developers in our city is uh that um that actually they're they're building more rental now than ever before because of the uh the challenges they're facing in the condo market. And most developers like don't want tenants to be suffering living in awful conditions either. So, I haven't heard from developers that they uh that they've got concerns about us ensuring that uh that buildings and units are kept in good conditions. Uh that's not their biggest challenge. Their biggest challenge is a market uh that is collapsing around them and they're trying to figure out how to how to recover. Yeah. No, I think people who build purpose-built rentals do want safety and dignity for their for their renters. I I mean the reality councelor Pastor Neckack is that there there are many many good landlords and we're not hearing from good landlords saying we don't want to uh care about our tenants and in fact uh most of them will get these green signs in their windows and they can boast about those and put in their advertising. That's wonderful. We want to encourage that. Uh but if you are like if you are a neglectful landlord and you do have a red sign and you need to you need to be respectful and caring for your tenants then yes I I think I I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with with holding them to account. Okay. All right. Thank you councelor Holidayiday. Three three minutes clarific how big do you expect this program to get? I I I I see in like one and two you you're expanding the scope dramatically. Uh to councelor Pastor Knack's point, it now sweeps in units all over the city that weren't apartment buildings, but they are apartment buildings. I mean that's that's the point. when when build when buildings become buildings where there are a lot of rental units they in in in essence in reality I guess become apartment buildings maybe not purpose-built but they are that's where our tenants live and that's where they need protections so you know if we're going to start discriminating uh uh uh to to to a degree where uh it had to be purpose-built then we're then we ourselves are being neglectful to the many many uh tenants who are living in in the secondary market or buildings that are now reverting to being rental buildings because it couldn't it couldn't make it a go as a condo. So you're advocating to send the blue uniforms into condo buildings now and knock doors and start getting involved with people that are renting units from individuals that own them. No, like how big of a government could we get? I think you're misunderstanding uh the motion. Okay, there are buildings that are being built for example today as a condo building and a and the developer is recognizing that that's not going to work and that it has to we got to make it into a rental building. Uh there will most likely be a property manager. Uh there will be uh you know the same the same kind of uh you know rules and ways that we have now for any purpose boat rental. Um, I'm not suggesting uh that we're going to go to uh you know every individual uh condo owner and knock at their door, but the second motion is now getting the enforcement staff to go knock on doors and essentially collect complaints that they're already doing that. that I'm not asking them to do something new, but there have been concerns raised by tenants about the robustness of how our rent safe inspectors are um are doing that job. And we want to make sure that uh that the rules are very clear as to how they're doing it, how robust that work is, so that each of those individuals know that they get the knock at the door that they're expecting. I'm not actually changing anything material as far as what we already do. I just want to make sure that we're doing it well. So, but you're adding instructions here. It's a direction. Yeah. It's literally says direct. Yes. Direct to go knock on the doors. Yeah. So, that's what they're directed to. What's the problem that they're trying to solve? That's your last question. Oh. Uh I I'll answer them. Um what we're hearing from too many tenants and I and I I want to say this in a way that uh that is respectful to our staff without questioning motivation, intent or interest. It would have been we are hearing from many tenants that they do question the robustness of what Renafe has already meant to do. They're asking for more teeth. They're asking for more uh they want they want assurance that what they're expecting is done and this is a request to do that. It's not introducing uh a new idea that they should now start knocking the doors. As the mayor said earlier, that's what we do. But there are questions about how well we do it. And this is providing reassurance and clarity to the tenants that what we're doing is doing well. Thank you, Councelor Bradford. Three minutes clarification of the motion. Thanks Madam Speaker. Three you just sort of picking up on the questions from councelor pastor and holiday. Um specifically number one including the term purpose-built and whether to include mixed tenure buildings. I think our colleagues have pointed out that um this could maybe be challenging from a staffing perspective. I think we all agree uh there are challenges with resources for MLS and the rent safe team. already we had to stand up a new program to just really start in its infancy doing with dealing with the apartment buildings in the traditional sense. But that line that says include mixed tenure buildings. So at what point how many units does a purpose-built condominium building that now has one unit that is rented out when does it fall into and get captured by this program? Yeah. Um no I appreciate that and and I also just want to uh uh put your attention to the word to review. I understand. And and the reason that I that I highlight that to you is is simply to say um I I think it would actually be arbitrary for me to prescribe uh an answer to your question. Uh I I recognize that what I'm asking for may not be simple and I want it to be fair, but I'm also identifying a problem where there are many tenants who don't just live in a purpose-built rental building. Uh we're seeing more and more uh condo buildings either having many many tenants living within uh uh um uh units that are that are that remain occupied by owners and we're also seeing some condo buildings even largely become rental buildings. So I'm asking staff to recognize that that's a reality in the changing market, review it, and then they'll provide us feedback as to how to address that. But I'm I'm deliberately not being overly prescriptive because I don't want to sort of, you know, just say, "Hey, go do something which I which I wouldn't know would make sense yet or not." Yeah. And I I appreciate that. And and you've talked about two different things. You've talked about what was originally conceived and perform it as a condo building and how folks are switching that over to purpose rental. That that would actually be captured by the program as it exists because it would be a professionally managed apartment building at that time if it was in fact PBR. But I think it is very difficult and I'm looking over at the staff here. Uh the idea that we would be going into private condominium buildings, knocking doors, are you in fact a tenant? Do you have a landlord? And now they're sort of captured in the rent safe program. Do they have to hang the the little green circle on the door of the unit? Like that seems like uh that is that is a very re that's a a reasonable concern to raise and they would have to grapple with what that means. I'm no I'm Um, where I'm going with this, just to give you some reassurance, is not suggesting that every single uh condo owner put up a green or red sign in their individual unit or if you know facing the street or like that's not what I'm suggesting. I get what you're trying to do, but I'm trying to the way it's written. I'm trying I'm trying but but the way it's written is for them to That was your last question. So that they can kind of figure out if there's a way to capture more tenants who are left out of the program today. Council Deputy Mayor Malik to speak. Thank you very much. Um I want to begin by thanking staff for this report and throughout this report we do see an incredible amount of care and responsiveness to what we have been hearing and seeing in the experience of renters uh in the city of Toronto. And I think that that is very notable and important to highlight because that is an outcome of the work together and the leadership of this council as well. And I want to give a big thanks to ACORN to housing and renter advocates who have been working to strengthen the experience and the supports for renters in the city of Toronto. And the report that we have in front of us is a an outcome of that continued work. And in that active engagement to make sure our assessment system is addressing the issues that matter most to renters um in creating systems to do remedial work to make sure that tenants aren't living in unsafe circumstances due to uncaring landlords is so important in the city of Toronto and a continued uh piece of work that I know we can collectively be proud of in doing that door-to-door engagement that has been so much a source of our discussion here in these chambers. It's to make sure that the tenants know that our city can offer help and will offer that help in a way that is transparent and properly structured. And I know we've spoken about how many uh renters there are in the city of Toronto and in my community and our tall building communities. We have an overwhelming number of renters and that is it is so important for them to be able to see and hear the work that we are doing here together. I'm proud to be part of a council that has worked very hard to continue to prioritize their needs and their interests, especially as we work through an affordability crisis. We've worked to move forward housing projects to address our housing challenges in the city of Toronto. We've created incentives to ensure projects are getting built. We've expanded programs to help protect people and for them to stay housed from the rent bank to the multi-unit residential acquisition program and more. And I know that together we will keep going and I do welcome the continued work that we do to strengthen uh those capabilities and also to make sure that we are being responsive to what we are seeing in the housing market and the options that residents in Toronto have access to. Thank you very much. Thank you. Uh, councelor N. Oh, speaker Niada. Thank you. Um, and I will be supporting the report and the, um, recommendations. Um, I I think that what we're missing is that this program is to target the slum landlords that we have. It's not that we're going to knock on everyone's door. It's if tenants contact us and that there's an issue in their building and that the landlord is not responding. I hold a lot of tenant meetings where I I invite rent safe and they they attend the meetings and they're very very helpful when they attend the meetings. they hand out the brochure and 90% of the time when I have uh meetings with tenants, they don't know we have this program and so it we try to engage tenants on what their options are and what they can do and should do when there's an issue in their building. And so I want to thank staff and thank uh ACORN as well that's been lobbying for this for a number of years. And um I I I have a lot of slum landlords in my ward, I tell you. and I know which ones they are. And um you know sometimes and the question was asked about you know inspections in the suites. Well what I do when I meet with the tenants is we tell the tenants if they have any issues to call us and actually the staff will knock on their door and go into their unit and and and investigate their suite because you're right they can't go in unless the tenant allows them in. So, we try to encourage tenants if they do have issues within their suite that if they contact staff, they can knock on their door and go in and inspect their unit. And I've been doing that for quite a while now. I I guess what frustrates me the most is that and I spoke to staff about it is that when there's charges laid against a landlord and um and that the landlord appeals the charges and sometimes that goes on for a while. Sometimes you you're waiting a year or two years before it goes to the courts and and that's the part that frustrates me and frustrates the tenants as well because they have to wait so long for any of these repairs to be done. Um, I wish we could tighten that up or maybe not allow some of these repeat offenders that uh I don't think they should have an option in appealing because they use the process and and and they abuse the process and that's why we continue to have these problems. So, I will be supporting the report and I'm surprised that uh nobody nobody had any questions to staff because we've been working on it and they work so hard on this report. So, thank you for that. Thank you. Uh, councelor Holidayiday. Thank you, Mayor. Councelor Enziata just said, "Surprised nobody had questions of staff." Yeah, because the original uh items before council were some tinkering with the fees schedule for the color-coded signs, which I don't really like in the first place and didn't support them. But, you know, here they are, and we could just deal with what we recover for the cost of those. Fine. But now we're somewhere else. Council can't help itself every time we get into this. And so now we've got new motions that are now talking about the program. Like most other people, I I uh don't care for scoff law landlords that don't maintain their buildings and don't maintain property standards. We regulate that. I get it. I get giving our staff tools to deal with people they can't get a response from. But council is constantly instead of dealing with property standards slipping itself into the relationship between the landlord and the tenant which is the job of the provincial government. Whether you like or dislike what that government is doing, it doesn't matter because you constantly get yourself involved. And now, you know, once again, uh, council's trying to be the advocate for the tenant. Why does anyone advocate for the landlord and encourage more businesses uh landlord businesses to provide opportunities for people to rent space? But no, they want to press their thumb on the other side of the scale and push more people out of the landlord business. Why would you want to take on the risk of the city constantly moving the goalposts on this? So, here we are with motions here that are looking to expand the program again. They just council can't help itself. And really what it is is just the pursuit of socialism. These are privatelyowned buildings. No, not yet. They chuckle because it's exposed, right? You know, there's always that motivation in this stuff. These are privately owned buildings by people that earn them. And all you see is the government increasing its control over those buildings. The movement of the state into the relationship. It is constantly pushing and pushing and pushing that bar. And now now they want to get into more buildings that didn't have the label of purpose-built and get the uniforms in blue knocking on doors uh to get involved. why we can't just stick with, you know, a daunting problem of landlords, some in the city that are not maintaining their property standards a and not constantly expand this program and expand the role of government and expand the resources required. You know, that would be the responsible thing to do. But here we are more and more and more. So, I'll be asking for certain recorded votes on this speaker, but I got to call it out. You know, a simple report now has turned into something else. Thank you, Councelor Bradford. Thanks, Madam Speaker. Through you, uh, I am glad to see this report and the recommendations coming forward today, and I do want to thank staff and MLS for your work on this file. I know it's uh very difficult and you often find yourself in the hot seat when these things sort of go sideways, but I don't think it's lost on any of us how challenging this stuff is. And that's because safety is one of the top priorities for local government and that includes making sure people have safe places to live. And there are notorious buildings across the city where that is not the case and where the status quo approach has not been working. So I do think we need more tools in place to protect tenants when their rights are being violated. And uh I think that concern has been especially evident when it comes to the action related to remedial action. And we had a big discussion here in this council chamber about that last month. I think residents, our own city staff, and my colleagues here in this chamber recognize that this tool has been used inconsistently over the years and in far too many cases. Far too many cases. It's been too little too late. And that of course includes a notorious building in East York at 500. issues there have been going on for decades all the way back to Michael Pru and then Janet Davis my predecessors in the ward they had been engaged on this file and the challenges there and I picked up the baton from Janet Davis back in 2018 to carry on the fight with this landlord who is a notoriously bad and difficult landlord. It's not all landlords, but this one in particular is pretty bad. And I think it's important that all of us here at city council are focused on getting the results to protect those tenants and putting the politics of this one to the side because it's actually about delivering results here. Um it's taken longer than any of us have wanted. But I do think it's a bit of a disservice to city staff and to this chamber to suggest that there hasn't been action there. So I'm going to give you some of the facts on $500. MLS has pursued 73 different prosecutions since 2010. The $200,000 judgment that the city just won came from charges that were laid all the way back in 2024. It takes a while for this stuff to work its way through the courts, but we finally secured that just a couple weeks ago, and I appreciate staff's effort on that. The city has already levied $125,000 in fines and charges since 2017 in response to calls for assistance from tenants and repeated escalations from our office. And over just the past two years, staff have filed orders of more than 170 different deficiencies with many, many more in the 15 years prior to that. So to suggest that nothing has been done is ludicrous. It's also pretty insulting and disrespectful to city staff and uh would appreciate it if uh if some of my colleagues didn't do that. More needs to be done. More is being done. We can all agree on that. My office actually worked with this new program with MLS rent safe staff to do a deep building audit of 608 which is just down the road and also owned by the same bad landlord. And it's a process that we now have to document all of the issues and paint a comprehensive picture of everything that the landlord needs to fix. I think that's a good process. We had that discussion last month and there was unanimous agreement in this chamber that enforcement at times has not moved quick enough to to address the persistent violations and uh in particular on the tool of remedial action. But uh there is work underway to make it better and I just wanted to say thanks for staff uh for your efforts on that. Um all of us need to resist the politicization of this and the politicization of staff but uh I do appreciate the hard work you're doing. I know it's not easy. So thank you very much. Thank you councelor NC. Thank you Madam Speaker. Um, I want to begin by thanking staff for uh all of the work that they've done. Do you have a motion? No, I don't have a motion. Okay. I did, but I don't. All right. Okay. Thanks. No problem. Um, I want to thank staff for all the work that they've done on rent uh safe to um you know, for myself as a city councelor, I find it's very easy to look after people that own a single family residential home or a house or a townhouse. they seem to very readily find their city councelor. They can elaborate on what their issue is, whether it's by phone or email or they'll find me at one of my uh community meetings. Um I have I have four neighborhood improvement areas in my ward. Those people on the other hand uh often I find that they work one, two, sometimes three part-time jobs. They're trying to look after their family. um English isn't always their first uh language of choice or use. They can't always figure out h how to find their city counselor or know how the process works. Um I I have town hall or dropins in in lobbies in apartment buildings. I'll have residents come into the lobby. They'll explit uh and they don't have any issues in their in their apartment. And then I'll run into them at, you know, the grocery store or out wherever and then they'll say to me, they'll unload on me about all the issues in their apartment building. And I'll say to them, you know, I saw you last week in your apartment in the lobby. Why didn't you say anything? Well, because the superintendent's right there. And if I start complaining about issues in my apartment and the superintendent's there, any from past experience, any ability for me to deal with the issues in my apartment, the superintendent's going to make it worse for me or harder for me or more difficult. Those are the people that we need to help. The other thing that I find with landlords and building owners, and I just experienced this a couple of weeks ago at a building in 3434 Angling Avenue east of my ward, uh ACORN was in the tenants have created a new uh group. Uh the mayor came out and spent a lot of time listening to those tenants. The the owner of the building found out through the media that the mayor and I were going and insisted on having a meeting with me before We met with residents so that he could tell his side of the story of a long list of issues in that building. And I find that more often than not, that's what happens when you finally get rent safe in residents become more vocal. They start organizing. That's when the resident that's when the owners suddenly pop up and they're like, "Counselor, how can we help you? We want to fix the problem in the building." So, I applaud this program because those are the residents that seem to need the most of our help to figure out how to be involved in the system, how to get issues brought to attention so they can be readily solved. And without rentto, I don't think that would be happening. So, I want to once again thank staff for all of their hard work. It's very much appreciated by myself and I know the tenants in those buildings like 3434 Agington Avenue East. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Fletcher. Yes. Uh, thank you. Thank you, Speaker. And I I along with councelor Lindsay and others want to just commend our staff for advancing rent safet. But I also want to commend you, Madame Mayor, because now rent safe has uh a brand new approach, a brand new visible feature that was very difficult to achieve. And I've worked for many, many years with ACORN, many years in my community in many ways, renovictions, cleaning things up, um, advocacy around heat. And I know that you, Madame Mayor, have been involved in that as well. And rent safe was something that ACORN said, we need to be able to advance this for tenants across the city of Toronto. We need to have a clear score. We did that with restaurants and you can see that that's a yellow. Well, get your get your act cleaned up. Um, I'm not going to go in there. So, that is a new phase for rent safe and is at your feet, mayor, that this has happened and I want to acknowledge that and I think we all need to acknowledge that because we had rent safe without that. I also yesterday acknowledged MLS. There's been so much heavy lifting over the last number of months and years. and to say again thank you for that. That was business licensing yesterday. Now we're on apartment fixups, but it's the same crew. I also unfortunately do have to get a little bit political. I think we are elected last time I looked. We're politicians. There is a difference between staff and politicians. And I want to say that for many years, one of my, as many of you know, one of my best friends and still was on council, that's councelor Janet Davis. Her main thing was 500 Daw Road. Nobody worked as hard as councelor Davis on trying to get a fix in Daw Road. the number of of uh violations, the number of violations on the wall, the number of times going to court, the number of times off of court. The fact to get something happening is very hard if a landlord doesn't want to do it. And it's not a lifethreatening issue. The same landlord at another building had an entire sewage spill in the basement. Yes, the city had to come in to clean that because that was a health and safety issue and a danger emergency issue, but on things that aren't necessarily an emergency but are failing our test, then how do you get the landlord to actually do that? I commend councelor Davis for her decade of work. This is the u compliment to pay her that we're now on that. and councelor Bradford, you owe so much to your predecessor who did so much work at 500 Daws Road and I'm glad you were able to step in and do a few things. But I want to say this here today, doesn't matter what councelor Davis did because we couldn't achieve what was necessary. Doesn't matter the things that you may have done because it couldn't achieve what was necessary. What matters is what the mayor did to step in to say we will fix that up at your expense. That is an entirely new world for tenants here in the city of Toronto. Entirely new wonderful world that you're not begging, that you're not calling 311, that you're not calling your counselor, calling the mayor's office. that's supposed to have happened and it didn't happen. And I know councelor Matlo, you've watched this for many years roll out in that way. So this is a new world for tenants that you have achieved in your morality. Number one, we're going to fix it. If it's broken and that's too bad, it's going on your property taxes. New world. Number two, rent safe. We're going to know if you're keeping your building in good repair or not in good repair. And the majority, we can see the majority of buildings in this city are clean, well-run. They're over 80. There's a number that are yellow and then there's some that are red. What are they doing red? I've already had that conversation with staff about the two that are red um on in my ward. How do we get at that? What's going to happen? Those rem those remain to be very important issues to tackle, but now we have the data and everybody sees it. So, thank you very much, mayor, for your ability to step in and work with tenants. I thank you on behalf of Acorn, on behalf of everybody who's a tenant in our city that has had this kind of difficulty. Kudos to you. Thank you. Councelor Bravo, I want to start by saying what a great day this is. You know, there are voices in this city and even in this chamber who are constantly saying that everything in Toronto is broken and that uh uh that the mayor's uh term here uh has, you know, there are problems here and there, but the reality is that this is half the population of the city of Toronto is having a great day today. It's a basic line of protection. Bad landlord, you pay. Now, we're going to know whether you're a bad landlord much sooner. There are many more levers. It's transparent. It's public. There's nothing more important to a person's life, to a family's life and future than having a a clean, safe place to live. And that is a bargain that has to be absolutely honored because people pay rent. Paying rent is a contract. And until now that hasn't been appropriately enforced. My colleague called that socialism. And you know what? Maybe you're right, councelor Holiday, because the reality is that we have a free market economy and we have to tame that market when it comes to the basic things in life. People need to live, people need to work, people need to eat. And that's what we're doing right now. We're protecting people. We're the last line of defense for people. uh the result when people can't bear the conditions anymore is that they're thrown out of their units. Units are are left to uh to crumble and then the and then the landowner has the capacity to say, "Oh no, we got to we want to renovate. We we pushed things to the point that renovations are going to happen." But guess what? Another great thing has happened in this term. We have uh we have a a no renovation bylaw. The basic floor of protection for people when they need it most has been increased dramatically. And while many things have happened over the years, I want to just go back a little in time. It's actually was 22 years ago that ACORN first started knocking on doors in the city of Toronto. And I remember meeting the first organizers, learning about what they were doing, and I did canvasing with them uh just as a volunteer a few times, went out in uh Davenport North, and I've seen this movement grow. First we got uh rent safe. Then we've got increasing amounts of protection. Staff had got direction to move ahead with certain elements. But in these last couple of years, we've seen a dramatic change. We've seen huge victories for tenants. And I want to acknowledge all of the ACORN leaders who have built a movement that isn't just in Toronto. This is the biggest people's organization in the country. It goes all the way uh from the east coast to west coast. uh and and people are learning from each other and learning good practices, but the acceleration of impact here under this mayor in the city of Toronto today is something that we should be jumping up and down for and shouting it out from the rooftops and celebrating. This is what leadership looks like. When it counts the most, we're going to be there for you. If you're going to hurt tenants, we're going to go after you. I think this is a wonderful day and I want to thank all the staff who have been struggling with these uh situations for uh for years and years and years. But now you have the political leadership to stand beside you. You have the political direction and the resources to move ahead. So let's celebrate. I want to echo what my uh colleague councelor Fletcher said. This is a sea change here in the city of Toronto and I couldn't be happier. Thank you to Acorn uh Federation of Metro Tenants Association uh and ACTO for everything that you've done together. Thank you. Okay, if we could um get ready to vote and I believe that uh Councelor Holiday, you wanted uh to split up the vote. Can you let us know which ones you want uh separate? Uh thank you, speaker. I just want to vote on uh councelor Matlo's amendments separately. Okay. Thank you. All right. Can put each recommendation or just his uh no speaker just simply a recorded vote on his amendment. Thank you. Okay. So we'll put the motions on the screen. Okay. Uh, councelor Matlo's motion recorded vote. Councelor Candaval and Councelor Prussa, if you are participating remotely, please turn on your cameras. Hi, I turned it on. Am I not visible? Hello. Councelor Canal, are you present in the meeting? Yes. Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah. Turn my camera on. I'm visible. Okay. Councelor Fletcher, please. Yeah. Yeah. If if you're virtual Okay. motion one carries. The vote is 23 to one. Okay. Item as amended. Recorded vote. The item is amended uh carries. The vote is 23 to one. Okay. Our next timed item is critical investments in street light infrastructure for public safety. Councelor Moyes held the item down. Do we have questions to staff? I'm going to ask another again. Do we have questions to staff? Oh, here we are. Okay. Council Churnis Lynn. Go ahead. Thank you. Um, so I I just have um a couple questions uh about um you know I know uh there's a little bit of discussion in the report about how uh Toronto Hydro and staff will be working together with uh the transportation department for example uh capital infrastructure to plan for changes. I wonder if you could just expand uh to talk about how we're uh ensuring there's cooperation and ensuring that we're to the best of our ability not ripping out um roads uh or areas multiple times and that we're trying to coordinate our our work together. Madam Speaker, through you. Um sorry, excuse me. Um so uh Toronto Hydro we recognize the importance of coordinating our capital work with the other work that's going on and the impact that it can have on congestion. Um so the the way the program is intended to be or the way the program is set up um on an annual basis Toronto Hydro will be submitting a 10-year plan to City of Toronto Transportation Services. And the purpose of that is to make sure that we have opportunities to look and identify where we can align our work with other capital work that's going on in the city. Um, and we'll be refreshing that plan uh every uh every third quarter on an annual basis to make sure that as things change um we have the opportunity to align our work with the other work that's going on in the city to uh avoid um impacts to congestion as much as possible. And just as a followup to that, um would you be open to considering how uh you'll be communicating with counselor's offices to ensure that um perhaps something like on a yearly basis? uh were advised of the work that's being planned in our communities so that we can um help smooth anything out to the best of our ability, work collaboratively together, um but also just be aware of what work is being done and perhaps um raise any uh key areas we're concerned about or where we know there's capital work coming. Yes, thank you. and through you madam speaker that is a key part of our proposal is that we have to have that kind of communication with counselors with the community to make sure that uh what we are building works that people are aware what's coming in there's tremendous benefit to this program um but people won't know about it if we don't communicate it adequately and part of communicating it adequately is working with counselors in their offices okay thank you very much I I very much appreciate that and I think we can uh be of tremendous support also in the process of the work you're doing. So thank you for that collaboration. Thank you very much councelor uh councelor Cheng. Hang on one sec. There you go. Thank you. Thank you. Uh I'm just wondering is there going to be a map of prioritization so that we have an idea of how this is going to f unfold across our city? So as part of the report, we have a heat map that shows the areas that are prioritized for infrastructure renewal. Um so that's available in the report and then uh on an again on an annual basis, we're going to be refreshing that uh prioritization in the map in the annual plan. So I expect uh that will be available. So does that um map capture the underground wiring and the light bulbs? Is it two separate pieces or are they is it one um I guess shown as one asset. Uh the map captures the state of good repair work. So that would be the poles and the underground cables. Um I I don't think it reflects the straight LED conversions. So Montreal is currently deploying a smart LED lighting system across their city. 32,000 fixtures, networked nodes that can remotely manage brightness, monitor energy consumption in real time, and detect broken lamps immediately. Is that uh being contemplated in upgrading our city? Are we looking at that opportunity? Uh our focus with the with the program is to address some severe backlog in the the state of good repair of the infrastructure. So again looking at uh cables that are at this point I think 86% past their useful life. On aggregate the uh street lighting system is 33% past its useful life and that's going to continue under the to get worse if if we don't um address more funding. Um, as part of the proposal uh that we have in front of council right now, uh, it does include sensors that allow us to dim lights or I should say controls, not sensors, um, which provides some advanced notification when there's a failure of a light and and those types of things. So there is um, more remote intelligence than we get today. But really given that our focus is on getting through the backlog of state of good repair um anything beyond um dimming controls isn't currently contemplated and would probably require a greater collaboration to get to that vision. Right. That's correct. Uh, and I noted that in Montreal, um, they are looking at lowering the temperature of light to 1,800K uh, in parks to avoid disrupting wildlife. Has there been any analysis done on the temperature of light that were implementing and the potential impacts it might have on wildlife? Um, as part of our analysis, we have looked at lighting temperatures. uh the currents, for example, the current high-pressure sodium lights, I think, are about 1,700 Kelvin, whereas the metal halite lights that are used in the old city of Toronto are around 4,000 Kelvin. Our uh our intent is to go forward with a consistent standard of 3,000 Kelvin, which is um we feel strikes a good balance between um you know, comfort and and also impacts to wildlife. The other benefits of the LED lighting are there's improved optics, so the lighting is more or uh directed towards the road versus up to the sky or or off to the side. Three minutes. Um and also uh um reduce glare. If at some point after implementation we notice that there are negative impacts to wildlife at 3,00 K or Kelvin, uh would there be the opportunity to adjust to something lower and would that be able to be done remotely? Um, we don't have the ability to adjust the lighting temperature remotely, but certainly if we found that there were issues with the the temperature, then um we could always uh re-evaluate that decision and look at different lighting temperatures. But we have found that 3,00 Kelvin is is consistent with what has been done elsewhere and is um in general aligned with standards and kind of consistent with what we've seen in other jurisdictions. Okay, great. Thanks. Those are my questions. Thank you, counselor. Uh, next up is councelor Croanti. Go ahead, councelor. Uh, thank you, um, speaker. Okay. Thank you for, uh, for your report. Uh, I just want to clarify, uh, the total investment is close to $600 million over 10 years for comprehensive street lighting program, right? Including all the LED conversions. Yes, that's correct. Okay. Um, now does that include all residential streets? It's it's all inclusive for the city of Toronto. Yes, it's a city-wide program. All right. So, there's nothing excluded, no roads, no communities. It's all inclusive. How are we deciding to prioritize um these conversions? uh which word wards go first and how how is that uh maybe you could uh tell me how that is going to play out. Yes, through you speaker. Uh prioritization has been a key part of the conversation between Toronto Hydro along with city staff, transportation services, uh the uh environment, climate forestry group, uh finance team, but also uh Toronto police. Um there's a number of factors that have to be considered. The key consideration is where is the system failing today. That's number one. But we're also factoring in there are big benefits from other public safety perspectives. Uh so where there's an opportunity to have greater impact because for example there is higher crime Toronto police has urged that strong you know having the lighting dealt with there will reduce crime. It will improve the ability to identify uh you know perpetrators and and so forth. So a number of social factors are combined with the core infrastructure considerations. Okay, that's very comforting to know. Are we uh going to be getting uh uh myself and my colleagues get a list? Uh how long would this take to roll out? So the program is a 10-year program. We have prioritized as uh Mr. Smart noted in response to the previous question a number of neighborhoods uh I will note uh per the map in the report uh Atobbico uh north Atobbico is one of the areas uh where the infrastructure is in particularly poor condition um as are a number of areas in in Scar Bro. Uh these are resulting from you know historic underinvestment in those areas. those are prioritized to be dealt with first, but ultimately this is a program that will benefit uh all uh Torononians across uh all neighborhoods in the city. Thank you. You answered my my next question and uh it's important to know that we are prioritizing uh uh areas that are you know underfunded and and uh you know have more challenges as uh like topical north. Are we um um collaborating with forestry on the implementation of this as well? Because what we have inherently are we have many mature areas in the city up in it north. Uh we have a number of very mature areas where we have mature tree canopies and it's the tree canopies that prevent uh new lighting from doing their job and that is lighting up the street and sidewalks for safety purposes. Is there going to be very close collaboration uh to ensure that the work is done uh at at the same time? Councelor, I can confirm that we are coordinating uh the forestry um work of the city with Toronto Hydro and we're looking at opportunities uh as they're doing the upgrades to ensure that pruning is done uh concurrently that supports both safety visibility and also tree health. So concurrently meaning um do the tree maintenance, tree pruning before the lighting upgrades are completed. So we will we'll be working on the process for that. A lot of it is onsite as the Toronto hydro folks are are coming on. They'll be identifying potential constraints uh areas where maybe poor visibility is occurring and then we can uh follow in afterwards. So it's likely when I say concurrently kind of in a coordinated manner. I think part of it is related to the work that will happen uh for the street lighting and that will impact kind of how we approach the the work for the uh the pruning. All right. Is there ever a time where uh you know it it does not happen concurrently? There's delays. You still do the street lighting upgrades. However, the uh the maintenance and of the tree pruning is uh delayed for a number of weeks or months. So, right now it's I I I would say we do coordinate, but what we're looking to implement as part of this program is kind of a much more structured process. So I don't think I can I can answer necessarily for the past but I can speak to uh our plans in the future around that. Of course there may be delays for example if we get a large storm event through. We have specific requirements we need to meet uh related to cleanup. So, it's hard to hard to say, you know, exactly what will happen in the future, but the idea is that we'll have more of that coordination so it happens uh in a in a much more uh closer time frame and enables people to then uh to see the benefits of of the street lighting upgrades. Um, and at the same time, we're able to uh to get out and do our regular maintenance uh and and tree pruning for help. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Moyes. Uh thank you madam speaker. Um so about two years ago now I went to Copenhagen for healthy cities conference and one of the things that we focused on was light pollution and uh the way they actually illuminate this the city is actually keeping the light fixtures or post I guess closer to the ground. Um how is this LED change going to impact the light pollution in the city? Will they improve it or make it worse? So, this this change will improve the uh the light pollution in the city and that's a function of the fact that with the majority of the LED fixtures, the light is more directional. There's better optics. We have more opportunities to direct the light specifically to the ground. on major um art or sorry on arterial roads. We'll also be uh striving to um achieve the the RP8 standard which is a a North American levels that considers um you know light pollution and uniformity of light and all those types of things on on more local roads. um we'll be striving to achieve it as much as possible, but through the course of the uh program um as we change out fixtures, we'll have the opportunity to adjust the mounting heights, adjust the the angles, and make sure that it's um uh light pollution is minimized as much as possible. So, the answer to the question is light improve light pollution will be improved under this program. Happy to hear that. And uh there's a lot of heritage lighting in the city of Toronto. I mean, uh Oldtown Toronto St. Lawrence market. There's a lot of heritage lighting there. Uh will this change also uh include heritage lighting as well? That's correct. So the heritage lighting that's owned by Toronto Hydro will be included as part of this program. In many cases, we have LED fixtures that are more or less a like forlike replacement. So that's what we'll be employing in those situations. in circumstances where maybe there isn't an LED equivalent, we'll work with the local uh counselor, the community to make sure that we go a direction and choose a fixture that maintains the the desired aesthetic. Okay. And also too, will this initiative also include uh BIA uh areas as well or just uh because I know right now when it comes to Heritage Lighting uh and the post that are owned by I guess maybe the BIA, it's not covered by uh Toronto Hydro. Is that correct? Uh so this proposal doesn't address BIA owned lighting. It just addresses Toronto Hydro Lighting. Only Toronto Hydro. Okay. Thank you. Okay, let's do qu call. We don't have quorum. And those that are virtual, please turn on your cameras. Speaker, there are 20 members present in the chamber. Okay, if I can ask members of council to please remain in your seats because um if you're not sitting u we don't have quorum. All right, our next questioner is councelor Saxs. Uh yes, thank you very much. Uh I've been working very closely with you folks on this issue for quite a long time. Um appreciate that we're finally getting some action. Uh so first of all on decorative lighting uh decorative street lighting in many areas is extremely important to the residents such as Palmerson Boulevard uh where the residents worked for many years to preserve that particular style of of lighting. Just want to confirm that while we need to move that to LEDs, you're not going to interfere with the decorative lighting. That's correct. Uh council, we recognize the importance of the the aesthetic and the you know the heritage values. So we will be um we will not be okay great. Second thing, one of the challenges we've had for a long time is that Hydra's mandate has been to put light in for cars and pedestrians and cyclists have been secondary or omitted. Um in the new lighting system, will you be giving equal priority to all road and sidewalk users? Cars are not the only ones that matter. Absolutely. our our focus is on roadway illumination uh which covers all users of the roads, pedestrians, cyclists, uh automobiles. So roads but also the sidewalks. Correct. Okay. Um the next thing is um and I know I've sent it in into you folks, there's been some research in other places about the real importance of reducing light intensity at dawn and dusk particularly to avoid harm to birds as well as um people's uh light adjustment. Um will you make provision for that in the new system? With the new system uh it comes with adaptive lighting control. So we have the ability to dim the lights um on a set schedule or on demand. So our intent is to work with city staff um particularly for local roads where we have the opportunity to to look at different dimming schedules. Right. What I saw in the report is you have the capacity. What I didn't get was a commitment to do it. Yes, we intend to we intend to investigate it. All right. Um and on that issue as well as on prioritization because you don't have enough money to do everything right away much as much as I would have liked that. Um what process are you putting in place to consult with local counselors to identify priority locations for installing the new lights? Thank you and through you speaker. The the important thing is that there are many benefits as you've noted counselor to street lights. I'm not you don't I'm not arguing with you about that. I'm arguing the role of the counselor. The the the core infrastructure dealing with it is often unseen and those areas will do capital coordination with uh uh with the city staff on the areas within neighborhoods. uh as uh councelor Chernos Lynn was asking about that coordination with counselors is key to make sure that residents know what's happening where it's happening and as you noted in your previous question what are some of those other local considerations that we should incorporate into the plan but I'm not asking you about pushing information out I'm asking you about counselors having input for the voice of their community on priorizing locations what will that process To clarify, we see those engagements as a dialogue, not as a one-way flow of communication. It's important to receive the inputs similar to the ones councelor Moyes was noting, you have noted, that's all part of that process, but getting at the areas that are most acutely in need. We do also have knowledge of where those areas are. And so, uh, it is a dialogue. We'll we'll speak with you, but we are going to move this project forward, you know, aggressively to ensure that over 10 years, the benefits of that lighting uh arrive to as many neighborhoods as possible. We definitely depend on you to know where the wiring is failing, the transformers are failing, the poles are failing for sure, but what is going to be your process? When are you going to start with consultation with counselors and communities on locations to prioritize? So, pending city council approval uh hopefully today. Uh that process will begin right away. We're hoping to move and and begin the project uh this summer if at all possible. So, so I'll hear from you next week. next week, the week after, probably many times in uh over the course of several months. As Mr. Smart noted, it will be not just a one-time engagement. This is a project that's going to evolve over the 10-year period, and we'll be regularly in contact throughout that period with each counselor in respect of their award. Thank you. You have a question. Council Niada, Speaker Niada. Yeah, thank you. I just have one question. Um, so I know a few years ago u some of the BIA well one BIA in particular at the junction um they um received funding from the federal government and what they did is they put all the hydro wires underground. Now, are we looking in the future on asking the federal government to fund some of these areas where um some of these BIA areas where we have hydro poles on the sidewalk, the sidewalk's not wide enough and you got these poles in the middle of the sidewalk and they can't people pedestrians is not very safe for pedestrians. Are we looking in the future on in some areas putting the hydro wires underground with federal funding? Because I know it was federal funding that was requested. Um, so that's not contemplated right now. Although I would say one of the benefits of this program, one of the intended outcomes is we have about 11,000 overhead jumpers in areas that are supposed to be underground supplied, but because the cables have degraded and have failed, uh, we've got overhead wires. So we'll be tackling a good portion of of that work as part of this and they will go underground. That's correct. So would the hydrop poles actually be removed? Uh so the intent would be um major art or sorry arterial roads there likely will be some changes in pole spacing new poles. Um local roads uh will utilize the existing poles. Yeah. So yeah I'm talking about the major arterial roads like for example in Weston in my area Weston Lawrence. So we have um the sidewalks are very narrow. So we have the hydrop poles and then we have the BIA lamp standards and the sidewalk is so narrow that it's even difficult for pedestrian to walk the sidewalk because with all these poles uh you can't. So I did at one time a few years ago ask hydro if they would put everything underground but you know in some of those areas where it's difficulty I think we should look at putting putting them underground and removing the hydro poles on the sidewalk. Do you agree? Uh yeah, I think to the extent that that improves the streetscape and and movability um obviously we have to consider the electrical distribution infrastructure, but certainly it's it's a needs to be a consideration anytime we go in and do work. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Council. Uh there is my audio audible virtual Hi there. Is my audio audible? Hello. Go ahead. Ask your question. Yeah. I'm just confirming if my audio is audible. Yes, it is. Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Chie staff, my question is around the methodology of how the street light infrastructure is going to be addressed. Um in an earlier response the answer was predicated around need and where infrastructure is lagging or inadequate. In a recent answer response to councelor Sachs it seemed to be around counselor voice or community voice. So staff can clarify how decisions are going to be made. Are they based on consultation, community voice or is it going to be based on need, infrastructure, um state of repair, state of return, etc. So, how how is the methodology of where our limited resources are going? uh through you, speaker. The infrastructure prioritization will primarily be the objective assessment that was done in collaboration with city staff and Toronto police. The uh to clarify the discussion with councelor Saxs was within the neighborhoods as we get to those neighborhoods when their turn comes up uh will we be responsive? Will we look at uh what are the needs within those neighborhoods uh as their turn uh comes up? Thank you. So just to clarify, it will be determined by data and evidence into where the investments and the upgrades are going to be made. Yes, that's correct. Okay. Thank you, Steph. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we'll go to speakers. Councelor Moyes. Councelor Moyes. Come on. Councelor Moyes. Councelor Moyes to speak. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I do have a motion and the motion really just talks about I think it's a great initiative by the way. Um it's high time. It's very environmental friendly. My motion really talks about uh the heritage or decorative street lighting fixtures owned by Toronto Hydro in that they also include um the LED initiative that's being brought forth. And secondly, um, in BIA improvement areas, I know some in some cases the light post belong to, uh, the BIA, and I've heard that Toronto Hydro may not touch it as a as a result of that or the BIA may actually pay the entire cost of the upgrade if there is any. And so I'm hoping so this motion released to highlight perhaps working with uh the BIS to ensure that um they are supported um on this initiative as well. And the third piece of my motion is really around um exploring opportunities to expand and improve pedestrian scale lighting on major pedestrians through through fairs across the city. Downtown Toronto is a prime example. Young Dundas intersections is a prime example. We want to make sure that there's proper lighting uh all times of the day and night and evening so that people actually get around the city safely. So those are the the things I would like uh to you to explore hopefully when if this motion is passed. Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh, we do have a question for you by councelor Holiday. Well, um, so the first one talks about the decorative street lighting fixtures, and I think what I'm reading is you're asking to have new ones put back, but how does all the cost for this square up? Like, does it then cause there to be less opportunity to deal with fixtures somewhere else in the city because a choice for a premium fixture was chosen uh in in those areas? Well, again, this is not going to be done over, you know, overnight. It's going to take some time, but when it's time to actually go into that area and you're working on the light fixture or the post itself, make sure that it actually complements uh the area in that the decorative lighting reflects the original, right? Like Oldtown Toronto. I wouldn't want let's say a um a a a a post a regular post where a heritage post was initially. The BIA's put a lot of resources into into those uh heritage lights and and post and I want that to be honored and respected. So, but that's just it. The BIA's put the money into it and now taxpayers are putting the money into it. It's like a doubling down. It's it's like the the a premium light fixture forever. That's what I'm worried about. And so, how do we square that up in terms of the money? Well, again, I think that's something that uh staff can work out with the BIA. Perhaps it could be a cost sharing uh effort. The money the cost should not all go to the BIA either. If the light fixture or post needs to be upgraded and is the responsibility of Toronto Hydro, then why is the BIA have to pay the entire cost just because they are by BI catchment? Well, would you would you make it a friendly amendment that it's done at the cost of the BIA since they're the ones that Well, I don't think it's fair to the BIA either because again, if they were out in the BIA catchment, then Toronto Hydro have incurred the entire cost anyway. Someone's got to pay. So yeah. So I'm saying that perhaps there could be a cost sharing uh in that regard. What if we just descope them and leave them to the end and leave the old lights there? There's nothing wrong with them. They're just lights. Yeah. But then it's you you're going to have burnt out lights in the downtown core uh because of uh negligence. Uh they will not be replaced. So again, I think the LED initiative is a good one. uh it's it I think it's cost effective over time for the over time for the city but also to it perhaps will illuminate less uh glaring and lighting uh in in the core as I said there's a lot of light pollution in in the downtown core and I think that's something that we need to actually focus on as well because it is it does impact people's mental health and well-being and this is not costed right it's not costed no thank you speaker thank Thank you. Councelor Charis, you would like to uh introduce uh the students that are in the council chambers. Yes, speaker. I am pleased to say hello to students from the gifted classes from Denlo Public School, which is in uh the Yorkmills area of my ward. Uh so, hi everybody. So, I think we have uh grades four and five students here today. Uh, and we're really thrilled that they've come and right now listening to us talk about replacing the street lights and upgrading everything, all of the pools over a 10-year period. Yeah, you're on the screen. It's like being at a Jay's game, isn't it? Just no hot dogs and ice cream. But uh anyways uh we are actually talking about uh something that you'll notice and start to see changing in your city and and we hope that you'll talk with your teachers about it uh when you go home. So I just want to say that we're very we're very blessed to have DenLow in our ward. It is an unusual school in that it has um it only goes from kindergarten to grade five. It has a gifted program. It also has a late immersion program starting in grade four and it has an English stream program. And what is unique, one of the things that's very unique about DenLow and some of us uh who have schools built uh in the period after the Second World War is that there was a period of time where they built um open concept schools. And so some of the classrooms in Denlow are sort of separated now by barriers, but they used to be very large open space places uh which I would say for the teachers is sometimes a challenge. Uh but makes it a very unique building. Uh and one that they've had to be very creative about how to use that space. Uh and so just like parts of Toronto, everything is unique. And that is one of the unique features of our ward is that we have a few schools like DenLow. So, welcome students and we're really thrilled to have you here and we hope you hope you feel engaged to be at city city hall today and uh we hope you have a great tour and uh I hear you're going to the mayor's office and I hope you'll come by my office as well. Thanks for everyone. Thank you. Councelor Chang to speak. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a motion that city council direct city manager in consultation with the people listed to assess the feasibility and benefits of deploying smart poles across our city as integrated urban infrastructure. And you can read in the motion all the benefits that that will bring. Converting legacy street lights into connected LED or connected solidstate lighting has become an important ingredient in digital transformation strategies around the world. Smart poles as they are called which integrate LED lighting, 5G base stations, EV charging, environmental sensors, community safety cameras into a single unit are deployed around the world in cities including Seoul, Los Angeles, Shenzhen, China, Paris, Madrid, New York, Jakarta and London. uh and they use the connectivity to increase safety to increase the livability of the city with the many uses that a pole can play. And I've heard from some uh counselors that sometimes they have multiple poles on very small sidewalks which also presents a challenge. So what we have here in this uh in this report that we received today is focused primarily on SOGR which is very important. We want our lights to work. We have to replace old infrastructure. But it also presents us with a window to consider how we can be a modern city, how we can lead, how we can innovate. We know that we have a strategy to multiply Wi-Fi access across our city. We currently have a plan to multiply EV charging stations across our city and we also are installing smart uh street lights across our city that are collecting data and our police are also installing cameras across our city for safety. So we have all these divisions that are doing good work, but there is an opportunity for us to think how could we consolidate all of these uses into something that is smarter, more innovative, and something that could result in more remote capabilities. So being able to adjust temperature of a light remotely, being able to detect remotely when a light goes out and needs replacement. And so this could take us a few years. Uh but I think it's important to start to see how we could pull all these different capital plans and see is there a way that we can uh pilot some smart polls in our city and see how that could support all the good work that all these divisions are doing independently. It's always very hard to collaborate uh in a big city like ours. But I think for us to be an innovative city, it is important that we work together to get the best outcome and make the most of the precious little real estate that we have on our sidewalks to do heavy lifting to achieve greater purposes. So I hope you'll support my motion. Thank you. Thank you. We do have a question for you. Sure. Councelor Myers, three minutes clarification. Uh thank you speaker through you. I just have a question about one a or 1 A3. So the public Wi-Fi hotspot capability. So having I lived in New York for several years and unfortunately what often happened with a very similar program was people were using the public Wi-Fi to access inappropriate material in public uh which created its own situations on the sidewalk. So, I'm just wondering if maybe you would consider as a friendly amendment some language just so staff to look at maybe not allowing those types of accesses on the public Wi-Fi. I'm I'm happy to amend but this is really the first step and there will be I think other opportunities. This is actually a concern I did bring up with our Wi-Fi access team uh as they have rolled it out in community centers and they have assured me that uh there are things in place in our Wi-Fi that do prevent that already. So I'm sure they would use the same principles if we use this as a way to multiply Wi-Fi access. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, Councelor Croanti. Uh, thank you, speaker. I have a motion if it could be posted. So my motion uh speaker uh is uh to ask city council to direct executive director environment, climate and forestry to work with Toronto Hydro to coordinate tree pruning and street lighting upgrades to promote public safety through enhanced visibility as well as tree health. Speaker, uh I was just through my uh questions that I asked earlier um uh I think emphasize the importance of uh having uh those two things happen uh at the same time. I uh I want to thank staff for the phenomenal assistance they gave us uh a number of a number of months back on a on a in a area of my community that was very mature. we've have uh you know mature tree canopy and we needed uh street lighting upgrades and so what happened there is they did both they went in they did a complete assessment of the area they did uh they did the work in the tree pruning area and they also upgraded the lights but let me be clear the upgrading of the lights will not have the same impact unless the tree pruning took place. So they did uh they work very closely with our office and that is now complete and I can tell you that if anybody has a chance to go up there I'm happy to let you know where it is and if I can use the uh uh the phrase it's like day and night an amazing difference. U my constituents feel a lot safer walking down those streets and um and of course vehicular traffic as you're driving there's a lot more visibility. You can see pedestrians walking. you could see what's actually happening around you. Um it's a very critical proactive measure that ensures the effectiveness of street lighting. So speaker my motion I think speaks for itself. U and I want just want to just point out one more last point that there's about a year backlog when it comes to tree pruning. So I think there needs to be a coordinated effort. We need to work together. Uh and I know that when we start doing the uh 20 uh 26 27 budget uh we may need to look at the street at the uh uh at that backlog for street pruning. And I know the CFO is listening. That's something I think we have to pay attention to to see what we could do to help forestry get ahead of that situation and also work more effectively in ensuring that the two things happen at the same time. street lighting improvements and tree pruning. Thank you, speaker. Thank you, Councelor Holiday. There's a I think there's a question or did it to speak? Okay. Uh, you have a question? Oh, I didn't see your your name's up here. T Oh, it just dropped because it wasn't on the screen. Okay, councelor Councelor Holiday, question to councelor Croanti. No, no, I I'm sorry. It was councelor Saxs with the question. Councelor Saxs, thank you. Who's on first? Yes. Uh, thank you, Councelor Christo. Uh, I mean, I certainly understand the advantage of having both together when it's convenient. Um, but are you suggesting that we've just got a lump of money to replace the street lights? We're the last major city in North America to go to LEDs. You're surely not suggesting that we should delay converging to LED until urban forestry can catch up. your mic here. No. Okay. Mike is here. Uh councelor, no, I'm not suggesting that at all. Of course, uh that there should be no delay whatsoever. Uh back uh during the budget process, I uh work very closely with forestry and uh we already know they've got a backlog. Um and I I know that when in my own situation up in the topical north uh when we uh had to address a specific issue, we got excellent cooperation both from hydro and Toron and forestry. They were able to coordinate. There were no delays and it happened. But no, I'm not suggesting any delays. Can I suggest then a friendly amendment? I hope you'll accept a friendly amendment to say something to the effect of to coordinate the tree pruning when when practical without delaying the LED conversions. Of course, I'm happy with that. Okay. Because I think that that that's the that's the risk of this motion. So, we don't want to delay. Okay. So, um I don't know. Clerks, do you need me to write to you about that? Okay. You'll amend it. You want me to amend it? Okay. Amend the amendment. So I am going to propose then you want me to email it to you. Okay. Thank you. You have to wait till you speak. Okay. All right. Yeah. And So, councelor Saxs, if you want that amendment, put your name on to speak. Councelor Holiday to speak. Thank you, Speaker. I I have a very brief motion. If I could ask the clerk to put that up. It's just to prioritize uh situations where there's a rapidly flickering street light. I'll explain that in a moment. Um I just want to emphasize the importance of this report for us. It's an enormous amount of money. It doesn't necessarily finish or solve all of the work that it opens up. We should be aware of that. It's a multi-year plan. And one of the things that has troubled me is that this has been positioned in public discussion about all about being LED and LED conversions when in fact the bulk of the money in the the 10year spend the $570 million is actually about maintenance of wires and poles. Not very exciting stuff, but really important, especially if uh you look in front of your house and you see like a bird's nest of wires that have been uh temporarily strung together to make something work because the cable broke underground. And so I I think that's positive that we're investing in infrastructure in the city. Uh I also express a note of caution and it is we're moving from a very simple analog technology in incandescent street lights and we're going to something which they call smarter LED I think network interconnected um and I use the air quotes around smart because as people know the more complicated things are the more risks that come uh but that that's really offloaded over to our service provider in whom we're making a uh a deal with that's Toronto Hydro. So, you know, my message is to city staff is that you have to manage this relationship and this deal to make sure that we get the performance that we desire. I talked about it earlier in the council meeting. New street lights and the qualitative effects of that light being cast downward uh are going to have a profound impact on how we as humans see the environment around us. And so, this really is a big deal. This is a big change that people will notice and I want to make sure that we get it right. And the final thing I'll say is that, you know, I didn't know that councelor Croanti was going to move a motion that is it's really important and I'm glad that he brought it up because sometimes concerns that we have with street lighting is sometimes as simple as just pruning the trees that grow around them where we feel it's a little darker. It's because there's some branches in the way. And it wasn't because the technology was bad or people weren't looking after the infrastructure. It just meant we were be behind on tree pruning. And I think his motion is really important because when you install new LED lights, there's a process often uh to tune them so that they're not too bright, they're not too dim, recognizing that like light bulbs, they change in performance over time, how much light is emitted. And you want to make sure that you've uh adjusted in a situation where the tree branches have been dealt with so that you know there's not more or less than what you were expecting. Uh so I think that's a really helpful motion and I hope that it's if it does get modified, it's done in a very helpful way that it continues to emphasize the importance of making sure that the tree pruning is done so that we get a really good baseline on the the lights. Finally, I'll just a quick comment on my motion. it it's very minimal, but I'd like council to get behind it. Um, it doesn't happen often and I want to make sure that everyone understands my experiences with Toronto Hydro and reporting a light out have been really good. They've got a great app to do it. People should use it more often. Uh, and the light bulbs are often dealt with very quickly. Uh, so that's a great news story. Every now and then, especially with LED technology because there's more electronics in it. uh when a bulb fails, it flickers really rapidly and that's very annoying uh for anyone that lives near one or has to pass by one. And all I'm asking is that on the rare instance that that happens that those be treated with priority because they're far more annoying than having a light out. And uh you know, hopefully they can just build that into their process and and deal with it. I'm quite confident that they can do that. But I thought it was worth bringing up a council because uh it should be important to us. Thank you. Thank you, Council Saxs. Oh, sorry. I mean, yes, they are. Sorry, you're up. Thank you. Um yes, thank you very much. Yes, I have a motion to amend Councelor Croissanti's motion. Okay. Um my my motion is simply that the first of all lot lot of uh does the staff have your motion? I gave it to them. Do we have councelor Sach's motion? Okay, there it is. Right. Yeah. So, my motion is to clarify that we want the tree pruning to happen um together if it's practical and reasonable and doesn't delay the street lighting. Many many of our street lights have no trees. Um and we've we've had the street lighting conversion is urgent. We're behind almost every other city. It's important to cut costs and crime and crashes. Um, so we we need to not delay the street lighting change, but certainly there are places where, as councelor Holidayiday mentioned, um, the the street lights aren't working anyway because of tree growth and maintenance that the city is behind. And so I've asked that we coordinate those things where it's reasonable and appropriate and doesn't delay the essential upgrades that we've waited for so long. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Let's put the motions on the screen. We're ready to vote. Motion one by councelor Moyes. Do we have quorum? 6 8 9 10 11 12. Okay. All favor. Post if any carried. Next motion. Motion two by councelor Chang. All in favor of Benny carried. Motion five by councelor Sachs. All in favor? Those if any carried. Motion three by councelor Croanti as amended. On favor carried. Yeah, we're going to do the re now. Item is amended. Oh, on yours. But the whole But the whole thing just yours. You want to Okay. Recorded vote. Council Turn inside please. Councelor Aninsley, please. Councelor Fletcher. Okay. Councelor Fletcher. Okay. Yeah. Motion three carries unanimously. Motion three as amended. Pardon me. Carries. Uh unanimously. 23 in favor. motion for by councelor Holiday. All favor post if any carried. That's it. Item as amended. Recorded vote. This is item as amended. The item is amended. Carries unanimously. 23 in favor. Okay. Thank you. Our next item is EC27.2 two, review of Toronto Street vending and artist bylaw. Councelor Holiday, you held the item down. Do you have questions to staff? Councelor Holiday. Uh, well, I guess the big question is whether or not the latest version of my motion is ready because it's been moving. But I guess that's a question to the clerk. Well, first first of all, do we you have questions to staff? Um, if not particularly, but if if that hold I can ask them if we need a minute to help. No, no, but councelor Holiday, hold on. I'll ask anybody else if they have questions. Does anybody Yeah, councelor Fletcher, you have questions. Go ahead. Um, go ahead. I just uh would like to understand uh how this is going to work now because uh sometimes on Queen East there's a and also at Spadina and Queen there's somebody who's very very enthusiastic that has a amp and a microphone and they spend a lot of time just playing the guitar and singing along and I do get calls to say, uh, that's very noisy. Could you please do something about that? So, are we going to have this allowing more of this just casually pick up and have your private concert and not that they're I don't think they're breaking any laws, but I'm wondering if this will help or curb that type of activity uh through the speaker. So technically they are breaking a law. Uh if they're doing it for money, buskers are not allowed to use amp. They're not using it for money. They're doing it because they think they're Rod Stewart. If if it is just someone picking up a guitar and picking up an amp and using it on the street, there is uh from a vending perspective, there is no law that they're breaking. If they are exceeding the sound limits, then that it might be under the noise bylaw that we would enforce. So I would consider that. So, they don't need a permit. You need a permit in the TTC. You need a permit here and there to do that. But you don't need a permit to stand for two hours and play very loud music and perhaps not well in a neighborhood uh through the speaker. So, even on the TTC when people are busking for money, that's when they need a permit. Yes. This is not for money. People, not everybody wants money. Some people just like to show off their talents. Uh appreciated. And that would not be covered under this bylaw. How could that how could that cover that instance? So I'll give you another example. At Young and Dundas, not in my ward, it's in your word ward counselor Moyes. There is often excessive excessive drumming, loud music, screaming amplified. And then you may have a permanent event like Luminado in Sanca Square that is impossible to hear because of the activity on the southwest corner of Young and Dundes. And I I just think we should be cleaning this up somehow at this moment. So there's nothing wrong with that either apparently. So through the speaker uh noise is a major concern uh especially when we're dealing with uh performers on streets. Um so it is where it where it is being done for um payment that would fit under the proposed bylaw. where it is not it will be done under the noise bylaw. How could we and can you help me if we need to send this back to find zones where whether it's for payment or not for payment you would have to say I want to go there and I want to be Rod Stewart and play every song for two hours very loud because as you know and I know you don't have a lot of staff the police aren't going to come and it becomes a very difficult thing and at Young Dundas Square and I'm sorry to talk about your award, councelor Moyes, but we've discussed this before as being a deterrent for casual concerts. Um, actually Luminado, which was a major concert which was completely drowned out by the activity on the other side of the street. So, I'm looking to have some of that managed. Sorry. Yeah. Uh, thank you. So uh through the speaker there are a variety of ways that these could be managed in a in a city like this. One is where it is vending there could be exclusionary zones such as around Young Dandas where it's a noise issue it can be addressed through the noise bylaw. Uh if it's an on street issue it might be addressed through our streets bylaw. Uh and that would include this could be an exclusion zone then. Correct. And we're proposing that in the in the report but only for money. I'm not talking about money. People are not always asking for money. If there's no money involved, how do you exclude that behavior? Uh through the speaker. So, our report today uh does talk about the vending uh bylaw which addresses situations where there is an exchange of money for these services such as busking and that's the that's the area that would include in this bylaw an exclusionary zone. I think what you're talking about is situations where there aren't uh there isn't this exchange of money. Correct. That is not covered in this bylaw. And what I'm Okay, that was your last question. Okay. Thank you. Councelor Holiday. Uh, thank you. Could I plainly describe or would you agree if I'm doing this right that there's three streams in this report? One of them has to do with food. Uh, and and that comes in various forms, whether it's a cart or a truck uh or somebody walking along selling food. The second category are artisans. And I I'm going to be really broad on the interpretation, but it could be buskers and I'll even put sort of character portrait artists in that because yeah, I know it's a product, but it's really about the entertainment. And the third category is non-food. In other words, stuff. Could you tell me a little bit more about what you envision is in the nonfood category and whether or not I got it right? I mean, that's the three things we're talking about here. Uh so first uh through your speaker yes I think I think it's reasonable to describe it in those three buckets. Um for non-food uh vending uh I think what we're envisioning as both sidewalk as well as mobile non-food vending which can include um anything that that uh a vendor may wish to sell. Uh the idea with the our recommendations in the bylaws for us to not regulate the substance of what people are selling but to open up that uh opportunity for them to do that. Uh and that's what we've heard through consultation as well. Uh that people are just kind of looking for uh options out there. So let's drill into a little bit further. What's a sidewalk vendor? Is that like a blanket on the sidewalk, a tarp, bunch of stuff laid out? Is it a table? Is it, you know, somebody opens their jacket and says, "Look what I have here." like what is that uh through you speaker? So on a sidewalk it would be uh someone setting up um a location on the sidewalk that is assigned to them uh and they would be able to vent from that uh location. But we don't we don't go further and say you have to have a stand or a booth or something. It's just whatever they do uh through you speaker. I think through the application process, they would have to uh provide us uh sort of a description of what their uh setup is going to be because it has to abide by some distance requirements and some clearance requirements on the sidewalk. Uh so that would be part of the application process. And then tell me about mobile vending of stuff. What what could that be? Non-food items. Is that like a truck and the the sides roll up and buying electronics or like what what what what's the vision for that? Uh so through speaker um I think if you envision things like um sort of an ice cream truck now but it could be someone selling a variety of different things that would just be set up on a in a mobile fashion. Um there are also opportunities for sidewalk vending that are uh mobile as well. So someone could have sort of a movable cart or some other method of carrying their goods um and they would be able to vend those. Are there any restrictions on goods that are being sold? Thought I read something in there through you speaker. Uh there are some restrictions on uh the types of materials or or products that could be vended such as no alcohol, no vapes, no tobacco. Um, back to the food category. You know, we often think of the the food vendors as stuff that you consume. Refreshment might not be a fair uh point, but maybe it's something that you consume right there. Like there's a there's a you're buying the food to eat it or the drink to drink it. Is there is there a space for food that you would take home? You know, somebody wants to sell meat or vegetables or whatever whatever it is they want to sell on the side of the road. What categories that fall into? Uh through you speaker. So they would fall under the same category and types of things that um could be kept food or or non non food as as the food one. Okay. Uh, and there are situations where people vend um sort of fruits and vegetables, especially in areas of the city that might be sort of a food desert that are a bit harder for uh people to access um sort of markets close by that to be able to pick up those groceries. Does any of that happen on a mobile basis uh through the speaker? It it does uh happen on a mobile uh basis. Uh I believe public health uh is the one that monitors that as well. Okay. And finally, is there any contemplation for services? Uh you know, I might be able to get a haircut on the side of the road, maybe I want to get a tattoo. Like what what limitations or are there limitations on the service element uh through you speaker? So uh services offering of services is prohibited under this bylaw. So they would not be able to Thank you. Councelor Chang questions. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Um, as you know, currently the market in general for small businesses is very challenging and members of our BIA are just concerned what this could do uh to their competitiveness and viability. And I'm just wondering if you can um lay out what involvement BAS will have in the decision making process and uh what the feedback loop will be upon implementing this legislation. Uh through you speaker the underlying purpose of of the recommendations that we're making now are also to expand opportunities for small business. Um, when it comes to BAS, whenever an application comes in for sidewalk vending, uh, or, uh, vending within, uh, those areas, um, there are opportunities for BAS, counselors, and members of the community to object to those applications. And if a a particular threshold is reached for those objections, then uh, we would not be issuing those licenses. A threshold uh, based on local businesses and the BIA. So uh through you speaker uh there are distance requirements in the proposed uh bylaw which would require uh for example a food vendor to not be within 25 meters of a restaurant or someone selling non-food items to be within 25 m of someone selling similar items. So it would be those uh businesses and the BIA within that 25 meter radius and if 25% of those that have been notified object that would be the threshold. And will there be a report back on this uh to just monitor impact of implementation uh especially with regard to waste removal? Sometimes a lot of these vendors they're forced to use one-time use only um I think takeout containers. So are we monitoring the impact on the public realm and waste removal? uh through you speaker. Absolutely. And we do have a plan to report back in uh fourth quarter of 2027 uh on that. Great. Thank you. Those are my questions. Councelor Thompson. Uh thank you very much. Uh Madam Speaker, through you to staff. Um can you help me to understand the definition of vending? uh through speaker I'm sorry I'm not sure what the question what you're referring to counselor well I'm asking you to define the definition of vending street vending what is it just in general it would be the selling of goods right so could I plug in a machine to the side of a business and vend from the sidewalk because it is vending of goods, right? Does this does this bylaw does this uh review does that take into account that opportunity uh through you speaker? I'm having a hard time a little bit like with the hypothetical uh situation is the let me explain then so in Japan there are many types of vending that takes place lots of machines that are utilized many um um smart business people are looking at varying parts of the world in which vending occur and that's why I asked you what is the definition of vending and so what happens is that They plug into the side of a um a structure and they vend from that location. I'm asking you whether or not we are looking at this envisioning this as part of the street vending review that uh we have in front of us uh through your speaker. No, I think that the vending bylaw envisions um people uh applying for licenses and permits in order to sell uh food or or products on the sidewalk or on the road. If there if an established business wants to plug in a vending machine on the right of way, I would imagine that would trigger something uh in the streets bylaw um about taking So, this doesn't cover that. Are we looking at that? because I I can see this as part of the future situation in which people want to look at a variety of options to provide more utility for the general public to be able to receive goods and services as part of vending. I'm just wondering if we're looking at this or are we just a little bit am I too forward in my thinking uh through you speaker? I think that is a bit uh more forward than uh we have looked. Okay. Okay. Um, but that's not in our plans. Okay. So, I may have to bring a member's motion at some point to ask you to put it in your plans to review. You don't have to answer that. Thank you. Um, with respect to the handling of food and so on. So, does this uh what is the role of uh public health with respect to this bylaw? So, as part of the licensing uh process uh through your speaker, anyone that is selling food uh does get inspected by uh Toronto Public Health. Great. And can you help me to understand the Hawkler's peddlers license? Um if I were to vend first of all, do we have such a license still in existent in the city of Toronto? Uh through you speaker, yes. And through this report, we are proposing to delete it. Ah, that's what we're proposing to do. Thank you. Thank you, speaker. Those are my questions. Thank you, Councelor Holidayiday, you ready to speak? Okay, go ahead. Thanks, Speaker. There's uh three motions. They're separate, and I'll just explain them as they go up. So, the first motion uh asks to put um a spatial prohibition around the entrance to TTC stations uh for vendors 15 mters uh on the same block. Part two is just a grandfathering provision in the event we've already allowed somebody closer than that. The second motion, and this is the one I want to talk about, is to not move forward on nonfood items. Uh because I have some concerns with that. And the third motion is uh you know obviously if we if that one doesn't pass that if we do go ahead with non-food vending items that it be part of the report back in the future so that we can take a closer look at it. Um so the first one the explanation is simple right? You know, like vendors often, if you've ever traveled to other cities where they've got this, vendors go where there's a lot of people and where it's busy. And the some of the busiest places in the city, uh, next to main tourist attractions are our mass transit stations. And we have enough challenges with people feeling comfortable and using our public transit system for lots of reasons. And I thought just having a bit of space from those entrances from the hustle, bustle, and buzz that is created by vendors makes them even more welcoming. And it's just a little bit of a setback that I think makes life better for everybody. So, I hope you'll support it. The second one is the the the bigger one. You know, I thought about this report a lot and I I'm excited about more carts, more food, uh more buskers, more entertainment. Those are all things that I can use. Those are all things that make my day better. Uh they might even bring some joy uh to experience them on our street and I think they contribute to the fabric of our city and I'm glad we've got some rules around how to make them work. But this last piece here about nonfood items, I've tried really hard to think about what it is that somebody could sell on the side of the road that would make my life better or something that I truly need. And I'm really having a hard time at that. And I I wonder though if we should take a very cautious approach about opening the door on that. And that's not just my idea. It was brought up by one of the BAS who have some concerns over this and my suggestion is not to move forward on that particular element. Maybe there's something that people want then there and now. Maybe there's something that can't be purchased in one of the many stores and entrepreneurs and convenience stores and souvenir shops in this city. Maybe. But I don't think we need to surge ahead on that. What I do worry about is uh people selling things on the side of the road because they're things that they couldn't or shouldn't sell in a store. And I'm not saying they would even get a permit. Maybe some other people will join in the fun when they realize they can blend in with people that do have permits that do sell legitimate things. But I don't think if those activities happen, they make my life better. I don't think they make our city better. I don't think they make a better impression of our city for people that are visiting here and so I'm urging some extreme caution around that and we will see what council votes on that particular matter but I think that that's a worthy carve out until we settle the matters that are contemplated in the rest of this report. Thank you councelor Moyes. Um, I do have a motion to not realize I'm on the speaker list. Um the motion really just talks about uh public nuisance in Toronto center um and safety and traffic congestion concerns in certain areas and really to talk to really for um making sure that the local council, the BIA and um other stakeholders are um are consulted uh when it comes to uh certain buskers in certain areas. But we do need to have busker stops I think along the way where people can actually know where they need to busker and not just busker anywhere. And so really this is the gist of of my motion and I hope that uh my colleagues can support it. Q. Council Sax. Council Sax. Okay. Take you off the list. Okay. Um, councelor Chang. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a motion that's been pre-irculated. The first one is just about monitoring the uh MLS enforcement um and circling back to see if we need to increase uh the cost recovery for how we enforce if there are more problems. And the second motion uh is just about working with the BIA to identify how they might become contributors in some way to BAS if there are fixed vendors. And I want to thank uh Chair Alejandra Bravo for working with me on these motions. I think they reflect some of the concerns that our BIA has at a sensitive economic time in our city. Um, so I hope you'll support my motions and I do want to speak to councelor Holiday that I have really enjoyed street vending as someone who previously lived in Asia, has shopped in Asia, getting out of the subway station and seeing so many unique things that I wouldn't necessarily see in a store. Uh, definitely improved my life when I was living there. So I look forward to the beautiful things that can become more accessible and just supporting small entrepreneurs who cannot afford to be bricks and mortar. I do look forward to seeing what will unfold in the city of Toronto as we pass this legislation. Thank you. Thank you. I believe we have time just for one more speaker and then we'll break. Council Burnside. Uh thank you, Madam Speaker. I do have a motion. It's just regarding the R55 vendors. Um staff had originally proposed that they uh be grandfathered permanently. I know that was changed to two years. I'm proposing five years just to let these folks who have probably been uh in their position for 30 years just give them a little more time to transition out. Okay, that's it. Oh, nothing else to say. Gettysburg was two minutes. Deputy Mayor Malik is next, but she's not here. So, councelor Fletcher, can you be quick in 3 minutes? No. No. She said we have to recess. Good luck. We have to recess or do you want to wait till later? Okay. So, we recess to 2 o'clock. This meeting is now resumed. Okay. Councelor Shan, you have a short announcement you want to make. Go ahead. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just wanted to rise and uh acknowledge uh the attendance of Nepali Canadian Community Services uh leadership here uh attending the council. They host a Himalayan mea every year for 18 years at Nathan Flip Square coming up on August 8th as well. So, welcome to city hall. Thank you. Now, um we do have some merge emotions with that notice to be added, but unfortunately we don't have 18 members, so we can't do that. All right. Yeah. I will now take the release of PTS. Okay, we'll clear the clear the screen. Okay. Anybody want to release anything? Count Councelor Moley. Um, yes, Madam Speaker. Thank you. I'd like to uh release the EY item on Al. Sorry, forgive me. Let me just grab the um EY 30.11 Grand Avenue and Alma Street pedestrian crossing protection. Councelor Holidayiday had wanted a recorded vote and I'm in support of this item in my ward. I hope my colleagues will support me as well. Okay, so councelor my is releasing EY 30.11 recorded vote. Thank you. Councelor Shannon, how do you vote? Please in the affirmative. Thank you. Uh the the item is adopted 17 to one. Councelor Chang, quick quick release uh for CC 40.7. I have a amendment. Okay, just one sec. That's 110 Sheepard. Yes, that's right. Okay. So, does the staff have your motion? Yes. It's not ready. It's not ready. Okay. Thank you, Councelor Fletcher. Yes. Uh, speaker, uh, PH 29.5, Advancing the City's affordable housing access system, all awards. I have a motion to defer that to the May meeting. Okay. So, we'll put the motion on the screen. That's PH 29.5 to defer to the May meeting. All in favor? Close. If any carried. Thank you. All right. Um, councelor posture neck. Uh, yes. If motions are ready for IE um 2813 and IE2814, I can release them both. IE 2813. IE 2814 if Yeah. Can you just No. Uh, one's not ready. Okay. We'll have to hold it down. Yeah, we've combined 13 and 14, right? But yes, there's a motion for each item. So, one's not ready. So, we'll have to One's not ready. All right. Okay. So, I believe that we have 18 members now. So we can add um the motions. Okay. Councelor Matlo. I uh move this motion to improve the city's laneway conveyance process. And it's urgent. It is urgent as delays in the laneway conveyance process are impeding the ability of several development projects across the city to proceed and this matter urgently needs to be resolved. Okay. On favor carried. Thank you councelor Bravo. Thank you speaker. I have a a motion. You could display it please. Um it's a reopening of an item uh for traffic flow on College Street between Duffren and Gladstone Avenue. Uh and it's urgent uh because uh business owners are without access to parking. On favor carried councelor Chang. Thank you. This is a motion regarding 4949 Bath Street and because there is an OOLT hearing there is time sensitivity. Okay. On favor carried councelor Fletcher. Thank you speaker. This is a motion for a love parade. Oh yeah. Who wants to come with me? um love parade which is remembering Claude Cormier the fantastic Canadian landscape architect and it's going to happen in May so we'd like to get that sorted today. Thank you for carried. Okay, that's it. Members, we will now do the member motion run through. The city clerk has advised that the financial impact summary sheet from members motion MM4.1 and MM4.41 41 from the chief financial officer and treasurer has been posted with the agenda item RM4.7 review of the order paper. M 40.1 Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the Toronto Nish York Community Council. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm 40.2 two notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the Toronto East York Community Council. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried mm 40.3 notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to reopening of item 2025NY28.10 only as it pertains to the number of the registered plan. A twothirds vote is required to reopen that item. If reopened, the previous council decision remains in force unless council decides otherwise. All in favor of reopening carried on the item. On favor carried. Mm 40.4. Four. Notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the Toronto East York Community Council. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. This motion relates to an alcohol and gaming commission of Ontario hearing and has been deemed urgent. All favor of waving referral. Carried. On the item on favor carried. Mm 40.5 Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the planning and housing committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm 40.6. Notice if this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the planning housing committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm 40.7 Notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item. All in favor carried. Okay, then hold the item down then. A mm 40.8 notice that this motion has been given. This motion subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item. All in favor carried. Mm 40.9 notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. On favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. MM4.10 notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twoth3 vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm411. Notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A two/3 vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral. Carried on the item on favor carried. Mm 4012. Notice if this motion has been given, this motion is subject to referral to the Toronto East York Community Council. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item. On favor carry. Mm 4013. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the exe executive committee. A twothird vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item. On favor carried. Mm 40.14. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the infrastructure environment committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm415 notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothird vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item hold. Okay, just one sec. Councelor Holidayiday is holding down 15 mm 4016. Notice if this motion has been given, this motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twoth3 vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral. Carried on the item. On favor, pardon. Pardon? Who's asking for a hold? Oh, this is councelor Meyer's motion. Correct. MM417. Okay. You hold your own motion. Mm417. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the Toronto East York Community Council. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. This motion relates to Toronto local appeal body hearing has been deemed urgent. All in favor of waving referral. carried on the item on favor carried. Mm418. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item. All in favor carried. MM419 notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. Pardon? Oh, is this the one that counselor Cole has a a conflict? Oh, okay. Sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. Oh, councelor Holiday wants a recorded vote on the referral. Councelor Prussa, how do you vote? Please against. The motion to wave referral carries. The vote is 17 to4. the required twothirds majority has been achieved. Okay. So the ID uh who said hold councelor perks. Okay. Okay. Councelor Cole, you can come back now. MM420 notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the infrastructure environment committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm 4021. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm 4022. Notice if this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral. Recorded recorded vote. Council Prussa, how do you vote, please? In favor. I'm sorry. Councelor, could you repeat that? In favor. Thank you. The motion to wave referral carries. Uh the vote is 16 to 7. The required twothirds majority has been achieved. Okay. Councelor Perus wants to hold it. Mm 4023. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the planning and housing committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried mm 4024. Notice if this motion has been given, this motion is subject to referral to the Toronto and East York Community Council. Twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item. On favor carried mm 4025 notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the economic and community development committee. A twothird vote is required to wave referral. Councelor Sax, you wanted a recorded vote on that, right? Recorded vote to wave referral. Council Pussa, how do you vote, please? In favor. In favor. Thank you. The motion to wave referral does not carry. The vote is 7- 16. The motion will be referred to committee. Mm. 4026. notice that this um chair chair I mistakenly voted in the previous vote. Can we please reopen it? No, please I mean this is the first time I'm doing it. Other counselors have done this. I made a mistake on my votes. No. Councilor Perks, you're moving to reopen. Okay, this is the first time I'm doing this. On favor carried. Okay, let's do it again. Just stand by members while we restage the vote. Voting panel is now open. Councelor Mantis, your vote, please. Councelor Peruta, how do you vote, please? In favor, the revote on uh the motion to wave referral does not carry. The vote is 6 to 17. MM426. Notice that this motion has been given. Oh, hold on. Let's wait till we put the motion on the screen. Okay. Um, notice of this motion has been given. This motion subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried. on the item on favor carried. Mm 4027. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the economic and community development committee. A twothird vote is required to a referral. All favor of waving referral. Carried on the item. On favor carried. MM4028 Notice of this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the North York Community Council. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. All favor waving referral carried on the item. On favor carried mm 4029. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the infrastructure environment committee. A twoth3 vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral carried. On the item on favor carried mm 4030. Notice that this motion has been given. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothird vote is required to wave referral. All in favor of waving referral. Does anybody understand it? All in favor of waving referral. Okay. Are we waving referral first? On favor of waving referral. And councelor Holiday, you want to hold it, right? Yes. Speaker, speaker, please. I want to hold it. I need to hold it, please. Okay. Councelor Holidayiday is holding it. No, Speaker, I I put on my my microphone. I need I need to hold the motion because I need to make some council the items been held. Mm 4031. Speaker. Speaker. Point of order. Speaker. Council Pruda. The item has been held down. Speak speaker, point of order. My point of order is this. You you as the chair created confusion on the motion by suggesting that you didn't understand it. So other folks didn't understand it. You were out of line in doing that. You occupied space on the microphoneed me. Council my item which I would like to the item has been held down. I I understand that, but I don't appreciate your commentary. I don't appreciate your intervention on this, and I don't appreciate the confusion you created on it, which is highly unfair, and you occupied my mic space. You prohibited me from holding my own item, and I resent that. Cut him off. Amen. 4031. Notice that this motion has not been given. A twothird vote is required to wave notice. This subject this motion is subject to referral to the planning and housing committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. All in favor of waving notice carried. All in favor of waving referral carried on the item on favor carried. Mm 4032. Notice that this motion has not been given. A twothirds vote is required to wave notice. This motion is subject to referral to the executive committee. A twothirds vote is required to wave referral. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. All in favor of waving notice carried. All in favor of waving referral carried. I got one vote there on the item. On favor carried. Mm 4033. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to a vote to wave referral. This motion has been added to the agendas before council for debate. All in favor of the item carried. Mm 4034. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to a vote to wave referral. Uh this motion has been added to the agendas before council for debate on the item on favor carried. Mm 4035. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to vote to wave referral. This motion has been added to the agendas before council for debate. on the item on favor carried. MM436. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to a vote to wave referral. This motion's been added to the agendas before council for debate. A communication has been submitted on this item. On the item on favor carried mm 4037. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. Uh this motion is not subject to vote to wave referral. This motion has been added to the agendas before council for debate on the item. Favor carried. Mm 4038. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to a vote to wave referral. This motion been added to the agendas before council for debate. Pardon? You want to hold it? Okay, councelor Pastor Neck is holding 38. But councelor Pastor Council pass this is your motion and you're holding your motion. Mm 4039. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to vote to be a vote to wave referral. This motion been added to the agendas before council for debate on the item on favor carried. Mm 4040. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to a vote to wave referral. This motion's been added to the agenda before council for debate on the item on favor carried. Mm 4041. This motion has been deemed urgent by the chair. This motion is not subject to a vote to wave referral. This motion been added to the agendas before council for debate on the item. All in favor carried. Okay. Um, councelor Perks. Yes. Just on a point of order on uh MM19 and MM22. Uh, I'd like to request that uh TTC staff be present when we deal with those items and the chief planner as well, but he's going to be here anyway because he loves it here so much. Okay. So, you're holding it down. So, you want the chief planner to speak on it. TTC. I'm requesting the TTC be present to answer questions. Okay. We'll contact TTC. Thank you. Uh, Mayor Chow. Oh, hold on. All right, Mayor Cha. Yeah, I am amending the order paper to consider MM. Oh, I need to introduce an urgent motion. Introduce the motion so we can uh vote to introduce it. Uh the motion it's uh without notice because it's a provincial land grab at Bus Key is urgent and also that uh you can you approve that? Yeah. Yeah. Just one sec. Okay. So you're introducing it on favor of intrus introducing the members motion carried. Okay. Mayor also amending the order paper to consider MM4 46 headed opposing the provincial land grab at Baiski and the island uh that we im deal with it immediately. We also want to combine the uh 4D.4 four, which is uh legal options to defend city of Toronto's interests at Billy Bishop airport lands. Uh so that we can consider both items together. Okay. Um Madame Speaker. Okay. Well, it is then we voted on it. So now you could just speak on it. Yeah. Today the uh provincial ann provincial government announced legislation to seize city land without our consent and without our input. Not just land at the island but city land at Bthers and Queens Ki. That includes Little Norway Park. They're going to pave it into our parking lot. Think about what that means. This parks holds a 3,000 pound memorial boulder shipped from Norway dedicated by a king hold honoring the Norwegian airmen who trained here during the Second World War. It has matured trees where migrating birds rest every spring. It has a playground where children climb and splash in the waiting pool every summer. Families have gathered there for decades. All of it now gone. Replace it with parking. Let that sink in. Last month, I brought a motion to city council and this council overwhelmingly voted to oppose this kind of land grab and demanded a seat at the table. Today's municipal government and the people it represents must have a say in decision about our waterfront. The province heard us and today they went ahead anyway. That is what a power grab looks like. A province that doesn't like the answer we gave from an elected council representing 3.2 million people. So it changes the rules and take what it wants. We haven't seen a proposal for airport expansion. We don't know whether the the federal government will allow it. And yet the province is already seizing city land before any plan has been seen or have been made public before any community has been consulted and Torononians are being kept in the dark. What we do know is this. They are taking our land. They are paving our park. They are dismissing the democratic voice of this council. And if they can do this at Little Norway Park, they can do it to any park in any neighborhood in this city. And that is not acceptable. Together, let us push back on this legislation. We are still reviewing this the details. It was just introduced less than an hour ago, but their intent is clear. Take our land, pave our park, and leave Torononians with no say in their own city's future. And we will not let that stand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, members of council, um because we didn't give an opportunity um because the mayor spoke um for uh counselors to ask questions of staff. So, the members of council want to ask staff questions. Uh yeah, or the mayor, please let me know. So, are there questions to staff or the mayor? No. Okay. Okay. So, let's go to questions to staff. So if you can uh councelor Holiday questions to staff. Uh speaker I I I think the city manager will be the lucky one uh as as central to intergovernmental. Uh could you enlighten council? I understand this is very new like hours old. Can you tell us what the public service knows? uh because you know we we we just see a motion in front of us. Could you give us a couple of facts about what this is all about? Uh so speaker we know very little. Uh this was introduced today. So essentially we're reading off a press release. Okay. Uh what is before us though and and what was unclear in earlier comments about it is there was a comment and in the quick facts of that press release that did talk about taking a portion of Little Norway Park. So that was a piece that was not available and was not commented on earlier in in the discussions about this, but it follows through on the announcements that we've heard in prior weeks that this is to uh deal with the tripartite agreement and and I would assume it's going to follow through on on their intent to remove us from the tripartite agreement and assert themselves uh and and then move on a few of the other things we've heard already. But we have not seen any any um uh further information nor have I any had any conversation with the uh the Ontario public service leadership about this. Uh do we have any idea about what the compensation is? So no at this stage uh we we wouldn't um you know this is not unique that it's not the first time the province has entertained you know expropriation of municipal land here or in other municipalities. So, this is a process we understand, but our uh we don't know what lands at the moment, and we have no idea in terms of what that cost would look like. We'd have to see more specifics on on the portions of land they're talking about. Has the public service been in discussions with the Ontario government about this? And I I'll respect that they may be confidential, but have you did you have any advanced knowledge or have some involvement with them on this? So, in terms of advanced know exactly what and when, no. Uh we have had conversations uh since this was you know announced or talked about I guess by by the um by the premier about what if anything that could be shared with us from the Ontario public service. Of course their response quite rightly was um they didn't have a lot of information yet either. So this is coming together and we expect those conversations to happen uh in the coming days and and weeks now that there is officially something on the table in the form of legislation. I think there was also some question at one point whether this would be done through a more regulations process at cabinet or whether it would come as legislation. We now know what the process is going to be. Do you have a copy of the legislation? I don't personally. I don't know whether we received anything yet. I'm I'm told it's been ordered for second reading. That just happened moments ago. It has not been posted though on So it's not posted publicly yet. Okay. So if you if you happen to have anything, it would be draft like there there's so nobody has any official copies of the form of legislation right now. No, it has not been posted on the province's official website yet. Okay. So can you give it council advice on terms of urgency? I mean, look, I understand the mayor's brought this motion forward. It's important stuff, but what time frame do we have? Is this going to be over by next council meeting or what what's the what would be the procedure otherwise for the public service to bring us advice with respect to new changes from the province? So the process would be we'll see what comes out in writing. Um you know I will communicate as well as other officials will communicate with our counterparts in the Ontario public service to find as much as we can. At such time we know the specifics uh we would be able to report back to this council around next steps. I would say in terms of the urgency the urgency of course is to understand if we um for instance need to bring things here. We are on a bit of a time clock in terms of the number of of cycles of council that exist before uh before we break in the summer and and then head to an election. So there is a bit of urgency to understand should there be anything we should bring here for consideration. And then the second piece is there just is now this limbo. We are we are part of the tripartite agreement on the airport. So there's work that happens. If we're not going to be part of that, I prefer to know that and redirect staff to do something that's uh in the interest of the city of Toronto or not. So there's a lot of things that we could be working on. If this is the way it's going to go, it would be good to know that sooner rather than later. Did the public service provide support to the mayor in drafting this motion? Uh I did not. I I think there was some conversations with members of uh of the Toronto Public Service and other divisions, but I I did not know. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. What? Okay. Well, put your name on the list, Council Casanti. You You can't put your name on the list. Okay. like like you just don't get up and say come on come on okay councelor Croissanti some clarity uh in this confidential information that we got maybe I can't speak to it um can I ask a question on this maybe not okay um if we expended any resources or time. Let's say we're unsuccessful in any court challenge. Can I ask that question or is that confidential? Sorry. What the question is? Can I first ask the province has the legal power to Yes. correct? Yes. So, if we challenge this uh the province, what is the chance of success? Can I speak to that for you, Madam Speaker? It's very difficult to respond to that question without having seen the legislation. And also, uh, there has been talk of regulations under the Special Economic Zone Act. That would be another that would be something else we'd want to look at to determine whether the province is acting within its jurisdiction. But you're correct. Generally speaking, the province does have powers to take land from the city if it wishes to do so. So it will follow that if the province has the power, challenging it may be futile. I I hesitate to say that without looking at the legislation and any regulations that are made, but we've done it before in other circumstances. Uh we've certainly tried. Have we ever been successful? Uh when the province reduced the size of council, we were successful at the lower court level and unsuccessful at the Supreme Court of Canada, but it was a very close decision with a strong descent. But at the end of the day, we were unsuccessful. That's correct. Okay. Thank you, Councelor Bradford. Thanks, Madam Speaker. Through you, uh to City Legal, I'm just looking at uh the members motion here, part six. It says, "Sity council requests the province of Ontario to provide the option for all residents within 500 meters, half a kilometer uh of the expropri expropriation area to move at the province's expense." And uh forgive me, Madam Speaker, I'm just seeing this mere seconds ago because it was walked onto the floor here. But um I guess the question of city legal is there precedent for that half a kilometer purchasing all of the properties within half a kilometer of an expropriation area? Um, and do we have the authority to? So, I'm not familiar with a president like that. However, it is a request of the provincial government and they do have powers to do that sort of thing should they wish. So, when we expropriate land as a city because we do do that from time to time. Uh, are we typically purchasing all of the residential properties within 500 meters of an area where we're expropriating? No. Okay. Have you ever seen anything like that anywhere ever? I have not. Okay. So, that's pretty one of one unique request. I I will add though that I'm I'm not an expropriations lawyer, but no, I have not seen anything like that. Yeah. Again, we just saw this a couple minutes ago, but that one stuck out to me as a little bit strange uh to make that request. Never seen anything like it. Okay. Thank you, Councelor Pastron. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just want to follow up on councelor Bradford's questions. Is this being done under the provisions of the expropriation act or we don't know yet? We don't know. The word expropriation is is being used. However, it it's quite possible that the expropriation act would not be used. I I would expect it wouldn't, frankly. Now, the the wording in the motion is we're unsatisfied with the compensation. Doesn't the expropriation act guarantees fair market value when your land's being taken? It does. And there's a process for determining fair compensation under that legislation. Right now, because we only have the press release. All I can tell you is that the province indicated in that press release that it intended to provide fair compensation. However, the process for determining it and the legislation that might apply, if any, other than other than this legislation we've heard about today is is unclear at this point in time. Are these negotiated settlements or are these sort of imposed? Take it or leave it. It it's difficult to say without seeing the legislation itself, but it could be either one. Um, just very quickly, we have a unit, an intergovernmental unit that monitors these kinds of things. I I assume, Mr. City Manager. Yes. So we have a strong we have a team that uh both at the staff level at the staff level that work with the province on a regular basis yet. So we've known for a couple weeks they were moving in this direction. The the team didn't wasn't given any kind of advanced briefing on what was coming or No. Uh so and I would say that's not uncommon. I mean, while we have lots of conversation back and forth, we are rarely provided uh with these types of things, we're rarely provided that kind of notice that this is coming in the detail of it. Um, so while we have lots of conversations back and forth, the conversation has been trying to understand um where this might head and the timing, but even that the timing I don't think was confirmed with us in our conversations either, just that it was imminent. So we find out when the general public finds out. Um in in certain cases we do and that may be because you know they they don't want to to to let us know certain things and then in other cases we are provided some advanced notice on certain parts of legislation. So it isn't a a set pattern but I would say that uh there's it's it's not a guarantee that we are going to get upfront notice of what's coming uh in legislation or in regulation. Um, oftentimes we do on smaller matters, but on a matter like this, they chose not to. Right. One last uh question for the city solicitor. Is there a case where a municipality has actually won has defeated or won an expropriation battle where against against the province? Is there any known case law in that area? Again, I'm not sure this will be under the expropriation act. It it is quite likely to be a taking through the statute. itself through this new statute. Uh I'm not familiar with the case, but but I haven't done any research on this obviously with this just coming up today. Okay. All right. Doing my best with the information I have. Councelor Fletcher. Yes. Just checking. Uh have you ever seen anything like this before where we've expropriated perhaps a green space in the city? The province has done so. I think I'm asking the city solicitor. What other cases have we have? I'm sorry. Could you repeat the question? Sorry. Hold my time, please. Any other cases you can tell us about where the province has expropriated green space or a park from the city of Toronto? Well, I can tell you that the building transit faster act did give the province extraordinary powers to take legislation, but um but this isn't the building transit faster act. No, it's not. So, this is just a straight up whatever it's called act. Yes. Thank you. It's not the building transit faster act. No. So we shouldn't confuse them. This is saying I'm taking this for a different use, a park. That's correct. Yes. Thank you. And um so we haven't seen anything like that before. Uh do you remember when Metroink simply announced to everybody they were taking 25 houses? They weren't on top of the Ontario line, but they decided they were taking their houses and they had to buy 25 houses on paper. I guess I'd ask whoever would remember that here. Anybody here from transit expansion? Hold my time. So, you know, speaker, yes, that was a was an action that that took place. Yep. They simply announced it and did it and said, "We're taking those houses and we'll we will uh compensate you." So the fact that we might say we want you to compensate you anybody who lives in the neighborhood uh is not unreasonable because that's what they've done previously for their projects when it might be impacted might when the neighbors might be impacted. Yes, speaker. We have through council been requested on uh a number of occasions to request that the province either do something slightly different or do something more than than they were planning to do on their own. Yes. So, uh, asking them to pay for people to move, they did that with the Ontario line, and if they're going to do this, which is highly irregular to start with, then we should have an an understanding that they should be paying for people to move out of the way for the jets. Requesting is always something we can do. Thank you. And just uh of this area, and I'm not sure we know exactly, could you land a provincial jet on this new road that will be created by um this expropriation? Uh that is uh definitely outside my wheelhouse. All right. Thank you. Landing or flying. Councelor M. Councelor Matlo. So the um the province has already announced that they want to spend lots of tax dollars expropriating lands uh potentially uh paving over a park and do we have they mentioned anything about what they're going to do with the waterfront school? Uh so speaker there was nothing in the announcement about that. Again I I don't know more than what's uh what's publicly available. Also, no, there was nothing in the announcement about that. Do we know if they've submitted any uh formal uh proposal to waterfront to review? I'm looking to see if anybody Annalie, have we heard anything on that front? No, we have not received anything. Do we have uh any clarity about exactly how large or uh any impact assessment on a blast wall that would have to be built if they move forward with the expansion? Uh no, not today. Do we have uh have we completed any reviews or have they provided any information about the impact on uh heightened density of proposed new housing in the Portlands? Do we have numbers on that? through the speaker. We'll be reporting back on that um when we have more information from the province and through our report to planning and housing committee in June. Have they said exactly how large the runway expansion will be? Mr. Speaker, we don't have that information. No. So, they've announced all this. They're they're saying they want to expropriate lands, potentially um displace an elementary school, uh pave over a park to be a parking lot, a community, move a community center. They've announced all of this and they haven't provided one detail, one basic group of facts to justify their argument that this expansion is necessary. So speaker, I don't know that they would ever provide us a justification, but they've not provided any details of any of the things you've just talked about. So we don't know exactly what's happening, which is why we're a little bit unable to provide clarity for council today. Um, again, we're just going to have to look and see what does come in the coming days and and ask the questions so that we can understand what to provide you as good advice. Do we know the impact on our waterfronts environment um if uh green space is paved over at Little Norway Park? So, no, we have not they have not provided nor have we undertaken any of those um uh those investigations today. So, let me just get this right. Doug Ford and his minister have announced that he they intend to expropriate city lands, remove us from a tripartite agreement, um potentially displace a community center, a children's public school, pave over a park uh to uh accommodate uh an airport expansion. an airport expansion that they've given no evidence that will actually support uh economic development. Uh they've they've has there been what about have they provided any traffic studies? Uh Doug Ford says he doesn't like congestion. Has what about Lakeshore Boulevard? Has has he done anything to demonstrate that this won't create even more congestion havoc on our roads? No. And and those are obviously questions that we would we would have given our our planning not only for traffic but also for transit. And again, Doug Ford says that he wants h more housing, but he hasn't done any homework that we're aware of on the impacts of the Portlands. What about um he often says that he wants to treat municipalities as partners? Um has he treated Toronto as a partner on this? So on this on this particular topic, uh it has been very little information about exactly what it is. Uh and and so we've been we've been just having to wait and we continue to have to wait and then to understand it. So on this particular issue, it's been um you know it is as you can tell very difficult for us to provide you any guidance because we have nothing to provide. And then and lastly um uh the premier ran his first election with the slogan for the people. um would you provide us details that they've shared with us about the genuine consultation process that they've created to ensure that the voices of Toronto residents uh maybe neighboring residents and certainly those who live along the waterfront who will be most impacted. What is the consultation process to make sure that uh that citizens voices are part of this conversation? That was your last question and certainly that will be a question we will ask and and we don't we don't have it at the moment but that is one of the questions we'll be asking for sure. Thank you councelor Myers. Thank you. Uh just to switch gears a bit um could the city solicitor just explain very quickly what a charter city is? So a a charter city can mean many things. There are municipalities that have their own legislation that is referred to as a charter. It's even called a charter. That is the name of the legislation that and that legislation in many cases looks very much like our own city of Toronto act. But often when people refer to a charter city, what they mean is a municipality that has constitutional status alongside federal and provincial governments in the Canadian constitution of which there are no none at this point in time. There are none, but there are precedents around the world that we can look at. Correct. That's correct. And the city of Toronto currently has a program advisory body uh compo comprised of citizens examining this very question. Correct. Yes, I'm aware of that. is one of the issues that would be dealt with under a charter uh the province's ability to take the city's land without its permission or remove the city from legal agreements without its permission. Look, I will say I've looked at home rule models in the US and charter cities and other parts of the world and I will say that there are jurisdictional disputes of a similar nature in all of those instances. But yes, it is conceivable that if Toronto were made a charter city, particularly if it were made um a constitutionally recognized level of government alongside the provincial government, that yes, the provincial government would have very limited authority over the city of Toronto. And just to be clear, there are disputes between v various levels of government when there is this charter or home rule provision, whatever you want to call it. However, the city generally has a stronger legal footing to stand on when it's in these disputes because they are not quote unquote creatures of the province or creatures of the state. Stronger legal uh position than than the city of Toronto currently has at this moment. Yes. Yes. So, is it conceivable under some of the various uh models that you've looked at under home rule, charter city, whatever we want to call it, that an action like this by the province would be much more difficult if not outright not allowed if the city of Toronto had its own charter. So, one thing to keep one thing to keep in mind is that for the city of Toronto to have the constitutional recognition contemplated here the provincial government must consent, right? That is built in. That's baked into the Canadian Constitution. But we're currently doing that work right now in the event that a future provincial government decides that Toronto is ready to chart its own course that we're ready to go to that conversation prepared. Well, anything's possible. Thank you very much, Councelor Cole. Do you got new questions? Yes. Um, anyways, just this city solicitor, uh, with my experience with the province, it it's been, uh, to my best, uh, recollection that the province doesn't have to expropriate, uh, land from the city. It can do it by passing legislation. Is that not correct? Keeping in mind that the Expropriation Act is provincial legislation. Um Yes. The provincial government could choose to take land another way. Yes. Yeah. So they could just uh through other legislation. Yeah. Through legislation. Uh they could uh basically in the legislation indicate uh whether there's going to be any compensation uh the terms of the the takeover of this land. Uh so and that's basically not subject to appeal because once the legislation is passed uh what's the recourse we could yes that could be right that's that's an option such as Ontario place I'm just wondering I had asked the clerk staff uh if they could find a photo of this uh little Norway park. So, uh, I guess if we had a cursor here, uh, if someone could point out Oh, yeah. Great. That's really helpful. Where Who's going to do it? Where where is the land in question here? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, I'm just trying to find so the public can know. Oh, yeah. I see it. Little. So, it's not a very little park. It's quite a sizable park. So, it's right across from the uh airport uh right and where do the planes land or where do the planes land and take off from the south? Right. Yeah. So, okay. Okay. So there therefore uh is the is there anybody from the parks department here or Yes. Uh what is the value of this uh park remaining a park? Why do we do we lose anything if it's paved over for whatever jet ports or teleporting or something? I don't know. What's the value of this land valuation for parks through the speaker is different than for commercial land. However, we have um research to suggest that land associated with airports is roughly equivalent to central business district land values. So, it's about as high a land value as you can get. Mr. Speaker, without without undertaking a full appraisal, we wouldn't have the precise information on that. But generally speaking, central business district land values are the highest in the city, are they not? Yes, that's correct. So, this would be equivalent to that. So, it's not just a inexpensive piece of property. And uh how long has this been a park? Anybody know? Was it always Norway Park? Yeah, Ireland. But then there's Little Ireland Park, right, where we commemorate the uh Irish uh immigrants that came here and died, the 35,000 died of typhus and uh business and that where is Ireland Park in relation to Little Norway Park? uh through the speaker. Ireland Park is on the east side of the Canada molting silos also shown on the screen. Oh, so it's on the other side there. Where where again is Ireland Park? Yes, there you can see it there on the Okay. Like Okay. Anyways, I just uh thought that's very helpful. Just we can see it on the back. Sorry. I just wanted to thank staff. Yeah. For getting that map together. I think people want to see where it is. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. It looks like we have more questions. Deputy Mayor Malik. Thank you very much. Um so I my first questions are about expropriation. Um so can you confirm that we have three levels of government in in Canada? Is that correct? Sorry, we can if it takes a while for us to get the answer. So, I would say in general there are three a municipal, a provincial uh and and a federal level are the are are the basics of that. Yes. Yes. And the city can't expropriate provincial land. appropriate provincial generally the answer would be no to that. Okay. So the this um building Billy Bishop act that is you know the mechanism that the province has shared with us today for uh the forcible u expropriation unilateral land grab however we want to um characterize this unacceptable uh way forward to this council. Um once and the questions here have been about what our channels are for recourse. So perhaps the city is limited in its in its options for recourse. That's something that you know we've asked um uh our uh city solicitor and their team to look at. But what is the role of the pro of the federal government when it comes to proincially um uh own land? Generally speaking, federal and provincial powers are separate in the constitution. I will say though that um the press release indicates that the province intends to step into the city's shoes in the tripartate agreement. The other two parties to that agreement are the federal government and the port authority. So So the federal government does have a role here. I appreciate for that clarification, but what is what role and power does the federal government have over provincial land? Are they able to expropriate provincial land? I I would I hear from uh from some of the chatter that that that is a power that they may have. I I would expect that that with for proper purposes that might be possible, but I have yeah I I have not looked into that previously. And I I do I do want to emphasize though that the federal government does have a role here and with expropriations if it's properly expropriation under expropriation legislation it must be a taking for a proper purpose. Okay. So in the if you we want to go back to the original question there are three levels of government in Canada and there is also a hierarchy of those levels of government. Is that correct? So so yes and no but the constitution does divide powers between the federal and provincial government and the federal government is is not to exercise neither one is to exercise their powers in a manner that encroaches on what we call spheres of jurisdiction that are assigned to the other. So there is a separation of powers in our constitution and in the interests of um um you know environmental uh sustainability and protection in terms of the public interest in terms of uh you know um the the the powers of you know city building and and uh and uh and country building that those are all that's a that's quite broad when it comes to the powers of the of the federal government right in terms of their There there are there's definitely a federal interest in this matter given that uh we have aeronautics, we have a port and the federal government is a party to the tripartite agreement and as we as we know and as I know very um firsthand as many of our colleagues do as well when it comes to the to the harbor and the water that there are a number of federal acts that govern that. Yes. And what happens on the land and its impact on that is important to the federal government. Yes. And so can you name some of those acts? The marine act, the fisheries act my head, but I can tell you that the harbor is in some respects federal jurisdiction. Aeronautics is federal jurisdiction and as as you confirmed and the federal government is a party to the tripartate agreement which is a series of of various leases between the three parties. Okay. And so the federal government is two parts of the tripartite agreement that governs the theory and the federal government itself by the minister of transport I believe and they have power over what happens on our waterfront and the harbor uh through federal legislation. There are some powers yes but I have not looked into this in any depth and the the in the interests of those two very important responsibilities that the federal government has. they may have a very important role and interest in what happens around it as well. That is correct. Yes. Definitely aspects of federal jurisdiction and again they're party to the that agreement. And and has um have city staff um had an engagement with um uh Transport Canada on this matter? That was your last question. Uh no, we haven't had any engagement on this. Okay. Thank you, Council Perks. Thank you. I'm I'm going to be taking a little bit, excuse me, uh different talk. Uh I have some questions for the executive director uh environment and climate division. So, Canada is a signatory to something called the Paris Agreement. Is that correct? That is correct. And the Paris agreement is based on trying to limit CO2 emissions uh such that our temperature doesn't go more than two degrees above the 1990 baseline. That's right. With a target of 1.5. And to achieve that uh we've relied well the world has relied on a lot of modeling by organizations like the IPCC. That's correct. What does the IPC IPCC say about uh the role of air travel in achieving those goals? So the IPCC I believe globally says that it's between two and 4% depending if it's direct or indirect. So there's the all the the infrastructure around that and that those emissions um actually have a a significantly negative impact because they are actually released at high altitude as opposed to low to the ground. So they contribute significantly more even though they may be lower amounts. And and the modeling to get to those Paris targets suggests what about air travel? That it needs to be reduced or significantly greened. Either reduced or significantly greened. Um the city of Toronto also has a climate goal of net zero. That is correct. uh will adding an uh jet air uh airport uh in the city of Toronto help us to achieve that goal or hinder us in achieving that goal? Uh under the assumption which I think is a valid one that adding jets will increase the amount of emissions. It would hinder us. Okay. Similarly, uh your division and I'm not sure if it's you or parks uh has a lot of responsibility for uh things like uh our international agreements on uh areas of concern in the Great Lakes region. Could you talk a little bit about that and whether this will have an impact in our international obligations there? Uh I I haven't looked at that so I can't speak specifically but I think it would be something we'd need to look at in terms of the impacts on you know things we've agreed to uh as part of our commitments under the Canada Ontario agreement and also as part of the the Great Lakes water quality agreement and the Canada Ontario agreement commits the province of Ontario to having uh Toronto Harbor be swimmable, drinkable and fishable. Would adding an island airport there make it easier or harder for us to achieve that goal? I uh I don't think I could speak to that yet. That's something we'd need to look at. It's the kind of thing we should really have information on before a decision like this is taken. I think it would be helpful information to inform any decision. Yes. Um, additionally, the city of Toronto uh has uh a number of goals around uh water quality ourselves and this may be for parks uh in order to make sure that our beaches are swimmable. Will adding additional concrete for parking lots and jets and the various chemicals used on the airport make it easier or harder for us to keep our beaches open? through the chair. As has been expressed today, we don't have all the information, but the assumption is fair. The assumption is fair, but again, we just don't have the information. That's correct. So, to the city manager, just off the top of my head in five minutes, I thought about three different international agreements that the province of Ontario and the federal government are responsible for and a number of city eco environmental goals. Our staff have said that while they don't have complete information at this point, it's likely there would be an impact and this is the kind of information we should have. Is that a fair summary of where we are on the ecological impacts of a new island airport expanded for jets? Yes, it is. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Um Neil um madam the solicitor has an answer to the deputy mayor Malik's question about the jurisdiction of federal uh to provincial. So madam speaker I can confirm that the federal government can expropriate land from a provincial government for a public work or other proper public purpose and the uh the piece of legislation that I couldn't remember the proper name of is the uh the Canada Marine Act and also the Aeronautics Act. So I'd mentioned that the federal government had jurisdiction over over the harbor and aeronautics. Those are the statutes. Thank you. Deputy Mayor Malik to speak. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Torononians deserve to have a say over our city and our waterfront. And last month, council adopted this position and made it absolutely clear that we reinforced that that Torononians deserve to have a say over their city and over their waterfront and their voice and the voice of their democratically elected council has to be respected and abided by. We together opposed the unilateral expropriation of city land by any other level of government, whether it's the provincial government or the federal government, that that unilateral approach is not acceptable to us. And right now, before the provincial legislature and this government takes yet another break, they have moved to do that anyway. And that is and should be an enormous concern for every Torononian, for every Ontarian, and for every Canadian. We have to ensure that we are standing with every Torononian, every Ontarian, and every Canadian against this unilateral move and to affirm that we deserve to have a say in decisions made about our communities. And as council and as mayor and deputy mayor and as a local counselor for Baths Ki, we are moving quickly to work with city staff to defend our communities and in doing that defend every single neighborhood in our city from one end to the other. We still have no official plans from the provincial government. We have legislation that I know staff is working hard to break through and understand. We still do not have a position from the federal government whose approval is required for our airport plans, Ed, that still has not said anything that affirms they are standing with our communities. And I do appreciate C uh Deputy Mayor Cole putting up the the um the map for uh for Little Norway and the Batherski community. And that might be a neighborhood that some of you have visited um or experienced, but I know many of you probably have not. And I want to tell you about it. It is an incredible community and I am so proud to represent it and to have represented it previously as a school board trustee as well. It is a community of deeply engaged residents. It has mixed income housing including TCHC cooperatives and condos. It has incredible community spaces that we as Torononians and community members have worked hard to make even better. There's the waterfront neighborhood center that's coll-located with two schools and a child's care and it is right in the heart of a revitalized Ba's Key neighborhood that so many of you were a part of advancing. And that has meant opening up the Baatherski Common, revitalizing those maltting silos with partnerships with OKAD and other arts and culture organizations. We have an incredible partnership in that neighborhood with the Canada Ireland Foundation that started with Ireland Park and is now with the Cororlick building, a hub for arts, culture, and activity in our community that is opening shortly. And at its centerpiece is Little Norway Park and which is used by community members and recreational sports groups. It is a relief and it is a gathering place that we desperately need in our downtown and that is demonstrated over and over for its requirement for how precious it is and for its value. And now the province wants to take Little Norway Park, add untold amounts of traffic and congestion, and to do it all without taking our community and our voices into consideration. And that is unacceptable. This Bath's Key neighborhood and Little Norway at the heart of it is an example of the types of communities we are working to build and defend in our city. Complete communities that we can be proud of. And it is essential in our work together in waterfront revitalization. It's exactly the type of thing that we want to do in every part of our our beautiful city. And the province taking over that land, paving over a park, putting up a parking lot where we have have defended parks and they won't have let us have our say or tell us what's happening is not acceptable. In our last meeting, I did warn that if the provincial government that takes this land here and acts in this way, who knows who will be next and in whose interest? They can do this anywhere if we stand by and and allow them to do that here. And all of us here today, we think every single day about what is best for our communities and the work that we have done as a city to make those communities better. And we have to make sure that we are working quickly as a council. So I inviting you, inviting you all to stand with our Btherski community to make sure that we are looking at every lever and option we have as a council now that this legislation has been introduced and that we demand fairness for Toronto, for our citizens, for our residents, for users of this neighborhood. And we invite our federal government to stand firm with us as well. And I hope that you all will join me and the mayor in supporting this motion. Thank you very much, Deputy Mayor. Uh, next speaker, Councelor Matt Low. Uh, Madame Speaker. Um, Deputy Speaker, I have a motion uh to uh to do an impact assessment on the uh potential expropriation of Little Norway Park, which will uh be on the screen in a moment. Um, you know, Doug Ford is so inconsistent with everything he says. Doug Ford has said that it's important to stand up against bullies talking about Donald Trump, but then continuously acts like a bully when it comes to the city of Toronto and its residents. Doug Ford has said that he wants to have new housing to bring down the cost of housing for the people of Ontario. Yet, he wants to expand an airport that will result in less housing and fewer affordable units in the Portlands. Doug Ford has said that he's against congestion and traffic. Yet, what is he about to do to Lakeshore, then expropriating Little Norway to turn into a big parking lot and creating more traffic chaos in the downtown core? The one thing that Doug Ford has been consistent about is his love for jets. very consistent. In fact, he wants a jet on the island airport. He wants a jet. He wants a jet in his driveway. He wants a jet at his condo in Florida. He wants a jet at his Msoka cottage. But you know what? This shouldn't be about Doug Ford. It should be about for the people, the people who he said he was going to represent when he was elected eight years ago. It should be about true economic development, the construction we could have at the Portlands, the great new neighborhood that we want there. It should be about actually supporting what people really want out of the waterfront. Beautiful parks, beautiful places to go. You know, a respit from the big busy city that we're in. And yes, whether you are a supporter or you do not like the island airport, most people would agree that the thing they like about the airport today is that it is a small, regional, and accessible airport that's easier to deal with than Pearson. They don't want another Pearson on the lake. That's the whole point. That's why they want Billy Bishop. So, what are they going to do now? They they're announcing that they want to do this airport expansion. And yet they have not presented the federal government or us or waterfront one iota of proof, evidence, facts, any demonstration that this big project actually makes sense. What will be the impact on housing development? What about the giant blast wall that they're going to build in our lake? What about the massive runway expansion covering our water? What impact will it have on his suggested new convention center? Will anyone want to sit in the new spa Ontario place with giant jets going overhead? Has he thought about any of this? Of course not. Just like he announced his tunnel under the 401, just like he decided to be corrupt on the green belt, just like he decided to do lots of things, he makes these big announcements without thinking them through. That's not leadership. That's not leadership. So when he says he's for the people, which people is he for? Has he consulted with the Waterfront community? No. Has he consulted with the people of Toronto? No. Has he consulted with the people of Ontario? No. So who is he talking to? Who's in his ear? Who's lobbying him? What's going on? What we do know is that Doug Ford's government currently is under active investigation for corruption by the RS RCMP. That's one thing we do know. We don't know why he's doing this, though. So I would make a case together and to the federal government, our partners, that anything that happens, whether the airport be expanded or not, should be done with the people of Toronto rather than around them or without them. I believe that we need big build projects like Prime Minister Carney has promised us and that's why we should move forward with the Scarboro East LRT and other great projects that we can all cut ribbons together and be proud of. In other words, together, the federal government, the Port Authority, Waterfront, Toronto, and yes, the province, let's work together on actually building big and doing great things together, rather than treating Toronto like simply this afterthought that Doug Ford can use and abuse whenever he chooses to. Madam Speaker, I believe that we need to take a stand, be strong, and push back on the bully at Queens Park. Thank you, Speaker. I think Thank you, Councelor. Uh, going to you. Any questions? No. Going to you, Councelor Holidayiday. You have five minutes. So, this is a serious issue. There's no doubt about that. But the way that the mayor has handled it with this motion and for us to be standing here debating an item where we haven't even seen the draft legislation and yet there's a 14point position of council is really hard to take serious. I mean look at number six talks about asking the province to move people within 500 meters of the site. They use the words land grab. it actually begins to lose credibility as you read it. That's not how you lead through these type of situations. You know, I listen to different people speak. I understand uh councelor Malik standing here saying she's supporting the Bather's Key community. That's her constituents. This is a development file essentially and they don't want to see development or intensification. I get it and I get that she takes that position. But what surprises me is the rest of council. They're more interested in fighting the government and acting as the opposition to the government than actually being objective about what this is about. This is about the amenity of an airport and the expansion and economic opportunity that it brings. What's even more incredible is the double standard. So the aircraft that would fly, this is where sort of nimi comes in that they don't want the airport in their backyard, their front yard, their lakeside yard, whatever it is, but they're happy to see everything fly in and out of Pearson Airport, over Councilor Croissant's ward, over um the ward that I live in, um over Deputy Mayor Moley's ward, in fact over a number of wards in Toronto. It's more aircraft there and more jets there is okay, but it's not okay here. Why would we take that position as a counselor? Why on earth would we pick one over the other? You know, the the only person that I that has some credibility in the argument is councelor Perks. Based on his questions, he was he was going along the lines of was, well, the position should be nowhere travel. I'm not sure I agree with that, but at least he's consistent. I guess he wouldn't want to see it anywhere. That's fine. I don't think that that's in the best interest of the city. My job here is to represent the constituents of a tobacco center. The calculus is pretty easy on this. Uh and an increase in amenity and availability and jobs that come out of uh uh increases to the to the um Toronto Center airport are positive. They're opportunities for the community that I represent, even if it's a little further away than say Pearson Airport. It also means that uh potentially that's less noise and less fly over of the constituents of Atobbico Center. Why on earth wouldn't I take a position to support them? No, instead we have uh the mayor releasing uh an item here that we we didn't have time to read before she was speaking on it with a 14-point plan that I'm not going to support. And we really don't even know what the legislation says. We don't even know what the problem is we're trying to solve other than to start a political fight which is pretty much part for the course. But if you listen to anything, there is one simple glaring takeaway and that is the lack of vision of this city and how it sees the amenity of a city center airport and the importance of air travel in and out of the city to support the city in what it does economically and how it grows. That's just small town thinking, right? The city's position basically without the courage to say it is that they don't want any growth there. They don't want any change. Just say it if that's what it is. Investors in Toronto, people that uh might travel here as tourists and the way that people judge us on the world stage will then sort of know where we stand. But instead, they do this sideways. They decide to fight with the government and they they complain about uh legislation and the way that they do it. Why do you think the provincial government is stepping in in the first place? because they see the economic opportunity, the importance, and because the city can't get over its own nimi attitude on this airport that they step in and they have to to do what they think is right for the province and for the city and for all the opportunities that this produces. And here we are having a fight over something we don't even have the basic information on. But I have enough information to tell you that what's in the interest of the constituents of Atobbico is to to uh to ignore this rubbish that's going on here to continue to pay attention to the evolving legislation but to understand what opportunities Okay, hold on hold on hold on. Thank you. Yes, deputy mayor. Thank you. Um I uh don't agree with councelor Holidayiday's mischaracterization of my remarks and my opposition to this. It was not about intensification um or the changes to the island airport. This was about the consistency um of this motion with the position that council had taken about Torononians having a voice and opposition to unilateral expropriation of city land which this council has approved and is councelor Holidayiday's position as well whether he likes it or not. I I thought I complimented councelor Malik for No, you said that I was opposed to intensification in my neighborhood which is absolutely incorrect. Thank you. Thank you. So can I please Okay, I I'll correct that. Uh, you're in favor of intensification the neighborhood. Sorry if I confuse that. Okay. Thank you. Okay. That's what you just said. All right. Council Holiday. Uh, your time is up. Thank you. I did put your time on hold. Councelor Perks. I have a motion. Speaker. I move that city council request the city manager to develop a waterfront coloring book and provide a copy of the coloring book to the premier of Ontario. Speaker, when Doug Ford was on this council, he wanted to put a ferris wheel on the water. Okay, councelor Perks, just hold on for a minute. I put your time on hold. I didn't know you Hey, continue. Council Ps. Yeah. So, when he was on council, Premier uh Doug Ford wanted a ferris wheel on the waterfront and a monor rail and a mega mall. Then he became premier and he said, "Oh, no. I know what we need on the waterfront. We need a spa." Oh, actually, no. Before that, he wanted a casino, then the spa, then the parking lot that goes with the spa. Then a little while ago, we heard about how he really wanted a convention center to fill in between the Humber River and Ontario Place in the lake. Now he wants an airport every three or four years from now. Okay, hold on. Hold on. We have a point of order. Councelor Post, I really wish you would discourage these nonsensical motions, particularly coming from councelor Perks, and I really wish the clerks would stop enabling this behavior. The second thing is he's not talking he's not talking to the item in front of us. He's going on a smear campaign that has absolutely nothing to do with what's before us. Could you please rule on both, please? Councelor Pastanak, I'm going to be ruling his motion out of order. Okay. So, Council Perks, you can you can uh continue, but your motion is out of order. I'm going to be ruling it out of order. And just please talk about what we have before us. I Thank you, Speaker. I acknowledge your ruling. I guess I'll just have to make my own coloring book and mail it myself. The the the fact is that the premier of Ontario has some weird fixation of treating Toronto's waterfront, our single most precious resource, as just a playground for his own imagination. And he he gets these little fixations and then he moves along to the next one and the next one and the next one. And each and every one of them would be completely destructive of the work that we have been trying to do as a council to build a wonderful relationship to one of the largest fresh uh freshwater lakes next to a city anywhere in the world. We have a fantastically precious gift and at the same time we have a premier who cannot resist the urge to scribble all over it. So I will send him the coloring book and he can amuse himself that way. But more importantly than that, if you look behind me, there's this very thin blue rope. And just over that rope are a lot of people from Toronto who are here to watch in an open and public way how we make our decisions. They see the reports that our staff write. They hear the questions we ask our staff. They hear the answers to them. They hear us debate. They watch us vote. All of that has been sidelined by a provincial government that I just don't know how they come to these decisions. Seriously, like does the the the premier just sort of wake up and send an email to somebody? We have no idea why this legislation is coming forward, nor will we ever. This government, the government of the city of Toronto, for its size and scope, is the most transparent government anywhere in Canada. Can you hold my time, please? Offended by a teacher again. This is the second time you kicked me out of city hall. Francis, what is wrong with that four? Okay, before be before we uh continue, I also want to ask councelor Pastnack if you would apologize to the clerk staff on your comment that you made that the staff is enabling um the motion that councelor Perks and that's not true. As you know, every member of council, every member of council presents their motion and it's up to the speaker um to rule the motion out of order. So, I I'd ask that you apologize to the first staff. Yeah. I gladly apologize and withdraw my remarks. Yes, of course. C. Okay, councelor Fletcher. So, I'm ask Okay, just one moment. Not what everybody at the same time. Councelor Pastasternac, as I said, I I want you to apologize to the clerk staff on your comment that the clerk staff is enabling uh councelor Perks in the motion that he moved because they're not. Every member of council has the right to ask for a motion for the staff to draft up for them. And if the motion is out of order, it's up to the uh speaker to roll that motion out of order. So, please apologize to the clerk staff. Madam Speaker, I will apologize for the second time. I withdraw my comments and I unequivocally apologize. Thank you. Councelor Perks, you can continue. All of us uh spend two, three, four nights a week out doing public meetings on important issues in our communities. We go and talk about a development application, a park, whatever it is. There is for there for our size and scope, there is no more transparent, open, accessible, permeable government in the country. And for reasons that are unfathomable unfathomable to me, Premier Ford can't stand that. He cuts the size of council in half. He creates strong mayor powers. He passes, I think it's now, seven different pieces of legislation, removing the ability of this council and members of the public to weigh in on development applications. He continues to th get in the way, frustrate and thwart open, accountable and accessible government. The fight we are having here is yes about jets. For me, I have strong views and you heard from my questions there are real ecological impacts. But more importantly, this is a fight about whether you believe in open and accountable government, whether you believe that the electors in the city of Toronto, in the province of Ontario have rights. Thank you. Your time is up. All right. So, I'm going to um at this I guess I need a vote. I'm ruling Councelor Perks's motion. No. I'm ruling the motion out of order. All in favor? Carried. Thank you. Councelor Cole to speak. I have a motion. If you could put it up, please. Uh, does the city council call upon all Tron MPs to go on record in opposition to the provincial government's expropriation of Little Norway Park and undertake to do everything within their federal powers to stop this expropriation? I think the only way you're going to uh slow this uh steamroller down is by getting our MPs uh who are I think all of them are part of the the federal government to uh take a stand here. They've been basically playing uh a very hideand-seek type of game so far. and you're not going to stop the Ford government uh by yourself at city hall. And I think the only strategy is to get us as a council and the citizens of Toronto, if they really care about protecting Little Norway Park and their island uh parks and island airport, etc., they're going to have to uh get their MPs to take a stand. right now they have not. So that is really where we can have an effect because you cannot stop the majority government up the street. I mean they just passed retroactive legislation going back to 1988 that you can't access any of their records through freedom of information that was just passed last night back retroactive to 1988. You can't get any information about their phone conversations etc. and they pass legislation very quickly because they don't have public forums like this. There's no hearings. They just pass legislation and steamroll things through. So that's why I really commend the mayor and the deputy mayor Malik for acting quickly on this matter. And I think it's really unfair uh to categorize Mayor Deputy Mayor Malik's uh stand she's taken for her residence as something that is less than you know I think courageous. She is taking a stand for her people and we shouldn't say well back in North York or Tobago we have other issues with airplanes. This is about one of our colleagues speaking up for her residents and what they're going to endure as a result of this change. We should be supporting her as she takes this stand on behalf of the people who live in that part of Toronto. They are under siege right now because you can imagine they don't know what's the future's going to be. And it's not about whether you're for you're for uh island expansion or economic improvement. is about do you believe that the people who live in her ward, the people who live down by the lake, the end of Bather Street, have any kind of democratic right to stand up and be heard on an important issue that's going to affect them for the next 50 to 100 years. That's what Deputy Mayor Malik is standing for. And so we should not be looking at our own pet peeves about uh issues that might affect us in our ward. We have to stand with her and standing up for her people. And if we put up some photos of Little Norway Park, I think people have got to realize what we're talking about. We're talking about a really historic site. This is where the brave Norwegian sailor uh navigators uh pilots came and trained during World War II to protect the western democracies from the Nazi invasion of Europe. They came here. This is where they came. The brave Norwegians came here to train and we trained them here. Then they w went back and the the king of Norway Olaf sent us a giant boulder from Norway. thanking Torononians and Canadians for helping them to protect. So, this is what they want to pave over those. It is a precious little bit of green space in an area that's, you know, obviously surrounded by condo towers of every description. So, if they lose this in counselor deputy mayor Malik, they're losing the heart of their community. So, it's more about more than about jets and uh spas. It's about the very green heart of a very fragile part of the city. 5 seconds. Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh, there was a question. I I delete who who had the question form. I deleted the name. Oh, councelor Holidayiday, you had a question to councelor Cole. I did. So, if we're going to ask the federal members to oppose the expropriation of the park, do we have an explanation as to why? Do we know what the park is being used for? What we're saying is basically keep it a park. The people of the community, I'm sure, want to keep it as a park. And let's not get into the airport and all this other stuff. The people of the community should have a say in keeping their little park. That's all I'm saying. That the should say that they support keeping it as a park for the people who live down there. Okay. So, but but you acknowledge we don't know the reason why they want to take it, but you're comfortable still taking this position? Yes, I want this park protected on behalf of the people who live in the Batherski area. Do you think they'll take us seriously if we are superficial in how we approach it? Well, we're not damn super park is not superficial. To the people of Toronto, parks are not superficial. Maybe in your area they're superficial in my area of Toronto. Parks are precious. I fought for a park in Atobico Center and I Well, sure you you fought, but uh park is special. Don't argue. Let ask. Let's answer the question. It is. Okay. Well, it's an extra special park. I got my answer. It is. Got my answer. Special park. Councelor Cole, you remember you remember Fairbank Park, right? Fair. Okay. Thank you. I didn't mean Okay. Councelor Councelor Croissanti to speak. Speaker, you want to do the question first for councelor Fletcher? Go ahead, counselor. I'll pass the floor to you. Councelor Fletcher has Okay, just a sec. We'll put your name on the list. Councelor Fletcher. Okay, that's why I didn't see your name. Can Can we put Councelor Fletcher's name on on the list to ask a question? Pardon? It's not on mine. No, it's not. Oh, there we are. Okay, councelor Fletcher, go ahead. Yes. I I think that councelor Cole you are just talking about at times counselors have fought very hard to keep parks to uh as you've mentioned uh the former mayor of York fighting for Fairbanks Fairbanks park there have been many times when counselors have said we need to keep the green space in the community. Is that correct? Uh yeah really as you mentioned Fairbank Park uh the uh speaker I said risked her physical well-being. She was physically threatened by people who wanted to pave Fairbank Park and turning it into a condo parking lot. So and the people of the community they have an attachment to our green spaces. It's a real visceral attachment. And so that's why parks like this, especially down there with all the concrete there, are very, very fragile and very precious for people. And I was just going to say if you happen to recall, and I hope councelor Holidayiday can hear this question that uh there was an instance where I think it was called Buttonwood Park. There was a suggestion to take Buttonwood Park and put a community center in it. and councelor Holidayiday fought very hard to maintain Buttonwood Park as it is and won that at either ex I believe it was at executive. Do you happen to recall that very strenuous uh fight for his part? Yeah. No, exactly. I recall because they wanted to build a community center in there and uh the people uh came to committee. They came to environment and uh uh infrastructure committee and they were very passionate of keeping that park green and whole. They didn't want a building on it and that's that proves the attachment that people have towards the attachment and do you recall the counselor speaking out very strongly in support of his community to keep that park? I certainly do and I'm sure he his community is happy that he took that stand. Great. Thank you so much. Okay. So, count now I'm ready for you councelor Panti. Oh, good. Thank you. Go ahead. Uh speaker, thank you. Uh I just want to say speaker that I read through these this 14 point motion and as I read through it there's some good things in there and some things that begins to lose the strength of what I think we're attempting to accomplish here. Uh I believe the intent is uh is there that the mayor wants to put forward. The intent is there. We have to that deputy mayor Malik is putting forward and we have to fight for what we believe in. Uh but as I go through these these 14 individual parts of the motion, I know I get concerned that we're not approaching this in the way we should be approaching it. So I'll just start with, you know, number one speaks to the opposition to expropriation. That's number one. Number two says opposition to compensation framework. It's not so bad. Number three says reimbursement for capital expenses. We're we're okay for now. Number four says provide funding for all costs. So, uh, that's that's something that I think we we could sit down at a table and negotiate. Five speaks to a communication plan. Number six, I'm a little bit concerned about. It's a bit dramatic because it speaks to uh, you know, evacuating, I believe, uh, the number of houses in the area, but then it asks for an apology for the disruption. Now, this is where it begins to get a bit off track. Uh, number seven says the province compensate all recreational sports leagues. And number eight, review all the leases. Number nine, federal government disallow uh the land grab. So the some of the language here is is not of, you know, of the best language I think to to uh represent us here as a council. Number 10, direction to pursue legal action. Well, we just heard and I asked the question about legal action. We don't have a history where we've actually succeeded in a legal effort against the province. Number 11, work with the city. Well, this is what we're asking them to do. So, this whole thing should be reframed entirely around number 11. Number 12, no comment. Number 13, opposition to expropriation. Well, we said that in number one. And number 14, no cost to the city. Again, um I I think respectfully, speaker, this is uh the wrong way in in approaching this very important issue. uh I can't I'm not comfortable at all standing behind uh this type of negotiating uh effort and u and for those reasons I uh likely will not support it. Councelor Fletcher. Councelor Fletcher to speak. I uh I just want to keep following up on that little exchange that I was asking councelor Cole about and that I believe it was Buttonwood Park and to say that in that instance where the city was proposing a use for our own park, the neighbors said we didn't want it and the councelor came out and fought very hard to say maintain this green space. I'll just remind you that was our own property. We were talking about our park and we did have the right to do that. But we were convinced by the people that said, "Please find another place for that use because green space is important to us as a city." and councelor Holiday, we agreed with you and we agreed with your committee not to put a large community center in that green space. Today we are saying, Premier, we do not want to offer up a very precious green space on the waterfront of the city of Toronto that is our property that somehow you think you can take. They do have that right to take it. But that you have a plan for that which you've never discussed with us, which we're not having any opportunity to say no. It is just by fiat. There is no king, but this is by fiat. It does remind me of a certain other kind of government. I'm sorry I can't vote for your motion, councelor Perks, because I would have voted for that motion. I think you painted a picture across the waterfront of the many things that have happened. Put them all together. A puzzle. There is Ontario Place. There is this convention center moving on to a new island into the water. There is the expansion of Billy Bishop Airport into the water. Whether you like or don't like the airport, the expansion is really something. When you look at the picture, it's going way into the inner harbor. It becomes a dominant use in the inner harbor. And because there's a problem with bringing in passengers, he's saying, "We're expropriating the green space. We're going to pave it over so we can have cars come and go and parking for our expanded airport." This is a very strange use for Toronto's waterfront. Very odd. I'm really concerned. Today is David Cromby's birthday, turning 90. Happy birthday, David Crombi. You hero of our city. you hero of our waterfront in a vision to create a brand new waterfront from the waterfront regeneration trust to what's today waterfront Toronto the vision that you helped us create for this space for all uses for recreation for business for residential for beauty for parkland that somehow the province has now imposing a different view even than the one that Waterfront Toronto has developed on which they have members and for which the chair happens to be appointed by the province of Ontario. What do we have left with the province using their power in the way they have been using it in the city of Toronto? I'll just remind you that when in 2011 and those of you who were here in 2011 will remember the ferris wheel, the mono rail and the mega mall that were brought in to go into the Portlands. That was the Portland's redevelopment plan by somebody that the premier then then councelor had found in Australia. It was city council and the community and Torononians that said no. City council said no on this one. It is the federal government that has to say no. They need they need to stand up for the waterfront in Toronto. Every single member of parliament, the Carney government, they need to stand up for our waterfront. They need to stand up for Toronto. It is your moment. That is the only thing standing between us and a waterfront that is completely absumed by a brand new use that will not fit and a takeover of Toronto's waterfront by the province of Ontario. Thank you. Last speaker, Councelor Moley. Uh thanks, Madam Speaker. I was going to save everybody the time, but I think it's important that we do take the opportunity to stand up in moments like this as we are people elected in positions of power and influence here in our city. I want to stand in support of the local counselor and of course the mayor for their quick efforts on this. Um, if nothing was done here today, I'm sure we would hear later about how no one was on top of it and we let this happen. It is so critically important and I always say and go back to the fact that constituents that we all serve do not care which order of government is responsible. They have expectations of us, their quality of life, their best interests, their health, um you know, all of the things are so important that we as all orders of government are finding alignment and doing our best to communicate and to collaborate towards good outcomes. Something that I'm very troubled by and I've heard repeated by our premier is that government should run like a business. There is a fundamental difference between government and business. The roles and responsibilities that we have and they're equally important I would say in society and supporting of course the importance of business in community. But government has a fundamentally different role and I googled it. The fundamental difference between government and business is that government serves the public good and operates on taxes while business aims to maximize profit and serve customers. Government maintains societal stability and provides nonprofitable services like public library and transit. Whereas businesses thrive on efficiency, speed, and profitability. I'm sure we all love some more efficiency and a profit and uh speed here as well. But the fundamental goals and roles of the work that we do is critically important. We hear about environmental protections and considerations. We hear about the importance of democracy and respect for orders of government and the various roles that we play. And unfortunately and very disheartening for me as a member of this council, a new member of this council, to repeatedly and consistently have actions coming down from this provincial government that are not in the best interest of Torononians, that are not in keeping with the values and principles that underpin good government. And I'm really getting quite tired of seeing this because it is not something that is serving the public. It is not good for anybody's um pocketbook. And we're ultimately making harmful decisions that are going to have generational impacts by this majority government who we hear is not showing up on a monthly basis and grappling with the things the way we do in this chamber, but are making unilateral decisions without consultation, without information, without a heads up. It's not acceptable and it is frustrating to know where we stand as a creature of the province. according to our constitutional makeup. But does that mean that we don't stand up when someone comes to bully us in our in our in our roles and in our under our purview? No. We're on it at bike lanes, which continues to play out in the courts. We heard about the very very close decision and the strong descent when this council was cut in half unilaterally in 2018, which impacted many of us, myself included. And while I have deep respect for the work and the pressures and responsibilities that fall to our premier, I do think that a better job could be done. And the first step is getting to the table with our municipality in a real way so we can move forward on behalf of our constituents to their benefit and to all of our benefit. So I will be supporting this important work and I again really want to hope and encourage our colleagues at all levels of government to respect this order of government. We have huge productivity in this province, huge productivity in this country. We are proud city. We are internationally recognized. Marquee event for a fanfest coming up for FIFA. We pull our weight here and we deserve the respect from this pro from this provincial government and this province. Thank you very much. Okay, let's put the motions up. Let's Yeah. Okay. Ask for a separate vote. The solicitor's report first. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, we're going to be doing the solicitor's report first. Yeah. Okay. On each of the items, right? Yeah. Okay. So, we're voting on CC um 40.4 first. Okay. Recorded vote. Councelor Pritz, are you present in the meeting? Council Bravo, please. Council Bravo, I'm sorry, Council Bravo in favor. Thank you. The um item CC 40.4 is adopted. The vote is 24 to1. Okay, the next one. So on mm 40.46 motion one by councelor Matlo. Okay, we wanted a recorded vote on that one. Correct. M council man Councelor Turnis, please. Councelor Bravo, how do you vote, please? Motion one is adopted unanimously. 25 in favor. Okay. Next motion by councelor Cole to contact your MPs. You wanted a recorded vote on this one too, councelor Cole. Councelor Pruter, are you still present in the meeting? Thank you. Motion three is adopted. The vote is 22 to three. Please, please don't let him you because he'll get angry. Okay. What's Well, I don't think was was there request for each of the recommendations separately? Okay, group yours then, Councelor Thompson. Okay. Okay. So, one to five then. Oh, but you know how many there are? 14. Oh, okay. Be ready to come back tomorrow. Okay. Okay. Okay. Come on. Let's Let's start voting. Let's start voting. Okay. Part one courted vote. Councelor Candell, are you present in the meeting? Councelor Chrisanti please and councelor Candel if you are participating in the meeting please turn your camera on part one of the item carries about is 24 to Councelor Holidayiday, please uh please help us here. Yeah, I uh I want to raise a point of order. It says council expressed its strong opposition to the compensation framework contemplated in the bill. I heard the bill language is not even out. So, I'm not sure that we can vote on this. If it's uh if it's available to us, then you can clarify that in the ruling. Okay. Well, just vote against it then. Okay. We're voting on two. Well, recorded vote. Recorded vote. Councelor Myers, please. Part two of the item is adopted. The vote is 22 to three. Okay. Part three now. There are Councelor Croanti, Council Pastor Knuck, please. Councelor Moyes, Councelor Pra, please. Part three of the item uh carries. The vote is 24 to one. Part four. Well, they asked for a separate vote. I Okay, councelor Croanti made an error. So, motion to reopen. All in favor carry. Let's revote. Can we just combine some of these because it's going to take us so long to go each item. No, I know. I know. Okay. So, we're re Part three, recorded vote. Just stand by members while we restage the vote. Mayor Chow, please. Council Burnside and councelor Mantis, please. Part three. The revote on part three carries unanimously. 25 in favor. Part four. Councelor Sachs, please. Councelor Croanti. Councelor Manis, please. Part four of the item carries unanimously. 25 in favor. Part five. Councelor Turnis, Councelor Cole, Councelor Burnside, please. Councelor Croanti and Councelor Pastor Neck. Part five carries unanimously. 25 votes in favor. Part six. Can you show the recommendation on the screen? Huh? Was it on your screen? Didn't see it. Councelor Turnis Lynn please. And councelor Fletcher, please. Okay. No, no, no. Part six of the item uh carries. The vote is 17 to 8. Part seven recorded vote. Oh, thank you. Councelor Chang, please. And thank you, Councelor Croanti. Thank you, Councelor Matlo. Councelor Burnside. It's Burnside. Mine won't uh work. I want to vote no. Uh in the negative. Thank you, Councelor Burnside. The uh part seven of the item carries. The vote is 21 to four. Okay. Part eight. Councelor Myers, please. And councelor Fletcher. Councelor Bradford, please. Council Burnside, how do you vote? Please. Yes. Part eight carries. The vote is 24 to one. Part part nine. Council Turtis Lynn, Council Pastor Knight, please. Council Burnside, how do you vote, please? Affirmative. Part nine carries. The vote is 20 to five. Part 10. This is crazy. Councelor Myers, please. Councelor Burnside, how do you vote? Please. Affirmative. Part 10 of the item carries. The vote is 21 to four. part 11. Deputy Mayor Malik, please. Councelor Fletcher. Council Britzer, are you able to vote? Part 11 carries. The vote is 23-2. Okay. Number 12 on 11. Councelor Thompson wants to change his vote. On favor carried. Okay. Let's vote on 11 again. Okay. On number 11, just stand by, please. Councelor Saxs, please. Councelor Aninsley. Councelor Cole, please. The revote on part 11 uh carries. The vote is 24 to1. on part 12. 12. Councelor CH please. Councelor Croanti. Thank you. Part 12 carries. The vote is 24 to one. Part 13. We have one more to go. part 13. No, it's 14. So, we're at 13 now. council croissanti please. Thank you. Part 13 is adopted. Uh the vote is 24 to one. 14. Now, last I'm I'm I'm playing bingo. I'm calling the numbers out. B10, B14. I was the bingo queen at one time. Councelor Chang. Thank you. Councelor Chan, Councelor Fletcher, please. Councelor Turnis, Councelor Cole, Council Chrysanti, Councelor Pastor, please. Part 14 carries unanimously. 25 in favor. That's it. So, I'm going to go now for quick releases because I feel sorry for the staff that are sitting here all day and the counselors are just going to release the item. And so, if you have a quick release, um, councelor Pastronac, you were telling me you have a few. Oh, C councelor Turnis Lynn, you have a quick release. I I do. I just want to speak very briefly just because I have some folks in the chamber who are who are here for this, but it will be very quick. Speaker, what is it? Uh, this is for MM4.7 proclaiming November 19th as early age onset cancer awareness day. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Um, as many of you may have read in the paper or seen online, early age onset cancer is an increasing concern with Canadians born after 1980 being diagnosed at significantly higher rates than earlier generations. This November, the colorectile cancer resource and action network will host its sixth annual early age onset cancer symposium, connecting patients, experts, and policy makers to support young Canadians battling this disease. Proclaiming this day as early age onset cancer awareness day will help raise awareness of this critical issue and affirm our commitment to supporting those affected by cancer in Toronto and across Canada. I'd just like to very quickly recognize some advocates in the chamber today. We have Christopher Mammali, a threetime survivor of early age onset cancer and national patient programs manager and young adult cancer coach at CCN as well as his sister Isabella uh who is a third-year sociology student minoring in comms at Wilfford Laurier. So a good chance uh for her to see the importance of advocacy work in action and community leaders and their roles in society. We also have Peter Lanaeus, two-time survivor and patient advocate of early onset uh cancer uh as as well as Dominic McGary. So I just want to thank them for their work in and particularly Chris for your work, your exceptional work in bringing attention to this very important issue. And just note that this motion will also ask uh for some communications work to be done around this so that we can raise awareness and ensure more people live to their best uh their best age. Thank you. Thank you. Councelor Pastron. Go ahead. Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to release MM4.38. This is uh this came out of a movie shoot in Downs View in which pyrochnics and controlled explosives were used uh in a music video. Um if you've seen the video, it looks more like a mushroom. Council, we're doing quick releases just Well, I don't know. Councelor Kerno's Lynn was able to give a full speech. I'm just I But I gave her the benefit of Okay. I I should have done that. I shouldn't have done and I'll never do it again. Okay. I didn't mind. Never do it again. Well, no, I didn't mind. Okay. I thought it was quite good. I'm just giving context on what I'm releasing. So, there was the notification fell short of of expectations and the and the community uh was shocked by the explosion, the fireball and the vibrations. So, we're looking at a new way new ways to communicate with our catchment areas when we do uh pyrochnics and controlled explosions during movie shoots. So, I'd like to release that on MM40.38. On favor, Gary, do you have any more? Councelor Pastite. Uh, yes. I'd like to uh release uh IE28.13. This is a local infrastructure issue. There was a Toronto water contract on Wilson Avenue. Hold on there. I think there's a motion, right? Oh, there is a motion. Yes. Okay. So, let's just put the motion on the screen first. This is IE28.13. Okay, the motion is on the screen. Yes. No, thank you very much. This comes out of a Toronto water project in which the subcontractor damaged or destroyed years and years of public realm investment by the Wilson Village BIA. We are um encouraging them or ordering them to repair all the damage done and have it done at such time uh that it is not close lanes during the opening of the Rogers Stadium concerts. Okay. Okay. On IE28.13 on the amendment on favor carried item is amended on favor carried. Okay. And I have Yes, I do have another one. This is IE28.14 water main clearing. We have a um we have a motion for that as well. Uh the concern here was that it was going to be blocking entry and exit routes from the Roger Stadium concerts. We've put some restrictions on when work work can continue and uh when when roads are to be cleared of any kind of barriers. Uh originally also it was going to block access to the hotel Monte Casino which hosts dozens of different graduations uh during the construction period. We have made sure that this contract does not interfere with the graduations or access and entry point to the Roger Stadium. Okay. on IE 28.14 on the amendment on favor carried item is amended on favor carried thank you that it that's do we have any further releases councelor Bradford okay just just one sec yes thanks madam speaker IE28 community sports equipment sponsorship IE28 I'll hold it I Okay, never mind. Not a quick release. Any further? If I can have members of council to please come back to the council chambers because we are doing quick releases. And if you have motions, don't leave. Okay, I guess we have to go back to EC27.2. We had speakers on that before lunch, right? Yeah. Okay. Deputy Mayor Malik, please. You're up to speak. very much. Um I do have a motion on this item. Okay, the motion is on the screen. Okay. Um this uh this motion here will help ensure further discussions with the financial district BIA given that some of the built form in this neighborhood uh can cause some undue impacts of noise um and echoes and we want to make sure that people can move safely and efficiently in our downtown core and also enjoy some of the changes that we are making uh to the capability of street performers and other activities in our downtown. I will be supporting this work overall as I know that the vending and busking can bring both uh incredible uh uh services and vibrancy to our streets and our public spaces across our city. Local musicians and buskers as have been mentioned by many of my colleagues are the soundtrack to our city of our daily commutes of our enjoyment of our travels. Um, and street vendors provide that window into Toronto's diversity and more options and what we love about being in the city. Um, I shared at at committee that we know that street vendors and and street performers provide that enjoyment and even in our day-to-day life, that whimsy that makes uh city life uh what we love and makes us even more proud of the city uh that we call home. And we want to make sure that this is all balanced with residents being able to appropriately rest, for businesses to continue to thrive, and that people are able to get around our city more easily while they're out they are enjoying it more as well. I really want to thank city staff for helping us get here. Um, and I look forward to us moving forward and implementing these measures. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Fletcher. Councelor Fletcher. Okay, you know what? Let's do a quorum call because we don't have quorum. Maybe I'll get them back if you do a quorum call. Quorum call. Members, the voting panel is open. Would you please uh indicate your presence in the chamber by pressing the appropriate button? Councelor Mantis, Councelor Turnis, Councelor Cole. Speaker, you have 21 members present in the Okay, councelor Fletcher, you're up to speak. You put your name up. It's on the EC27.2. Street Bending. Yes, you have a motion. So, we'll put the motion on the screen. There it is. And amplify disturbances where I found out from Mr. Katz that if you are have a hat out or taking money, there's an enforcement procedure. But if you are just there for your own enjoyment and nobody else's, there's nothing that can happen. So, I really I would like to have a report on what options we have for that sweet guy that's at the corner norththeast corner of Spadina and Queen the northeast corner of Queen and Pape all the people at Young and Dundas across from Sanca Square. I think that I know councelor Moyes has talked to me about that before that you simply can't have an event somewhere when somebody's there with their amp really loving their Rod Stewart work but it is causing a problem for people that actually have a permit. So let's find out what we can do. We have that opportunity. Thank you. Thank you. Our last speaker is councelor Bravo. Thank you, speaker. Um, I want to thank staff for all of their work on this. This is a um something that uh council has requested and it's been a huge lift. Uh we to contemplate all of the ways that we can get out of the way of uh entrepreneurs uh who want to set up shop and offer goods and services. uh mostly I I would so I should say goods and food um to people who are visiting our city who live in our city. This is a an important way to ensure we have a robust local economies. Um and I and I think that this was really well done. Uh I want to just speak to the motions that have been moved as committee chair. uh councelor Holidayiday's motion on distance from transit is I think it's a sensible motion uh to ensure that access to uh state subway stations is not impeded. Uh so I'll be supporting that on his second motion. However, saying that um you know non-food uh items should don't have a a purpose. I I just want to say this. Uh I just want would love to be able to get an umbrella when it's raining. A and uh when I'm walking down the street and if there was a vendor there, I think there is a utility to having non-food vending. Um and we've seen that and all over the city where that pops up. It creates a lot of local vibrancy and it and there's a need for it. uh on his uh third motion which would he explained as a sort of a if B doesn't succeed um he asked for some analysis on non-food vending and I think that's that's a reasonable request and I think could be very useful on uh uh councelor Moyes's w u motions one was about uh specific to his ward um but the second one was really helpful in terms of figuring out whether there should be some fixed uh uh permits so that that there could be fixed vendors and and I think that that would receive support. Uh I want to thank councelor Chang for working with my office to um bring forward her motions. Uh councelor uh deputy mayor Malik has some motions around um scoping uh for particular situations and uh councelor Burnside's motion on um moving the the length of time for notification from two years to five years. Um you know the committee recommendation was two years. We've uh heard from some that maybe there was a need for a little bit more time uh to understand it. So I think that that there's nothing wrong with going from two years to five years. So overall uh we're making the city more fun uh more uh attuned to the the needs of of residents and visitors. We're getting out of the way of small entrepreneurs and we're creating economic opportunity for people that may not have had access. Uh we're reinforcing uh the vibrancy of our streets and this is a good day. So, thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. Let's put the motions on the screen. Okay. Motion 1A by councelor Holiday. All in favor carried. Okay. Next motion. 1B by councelor Holidayiday. On favor. Oh, recorded. Okay. recorded. Councelor Bravo, I seen you nod your head, but I didn't know what you wanted. Okay. Councelor Sachs, please. Councelor Canada. Councelor Bradford, please. Councelor Peruta, how do you vote, please? Motion 1B does not carry. The vote's already closed. Madam Speaker, I'll announce this result. The mo the vote on motion 1B it does not carry. The vote is 3 to 19. Okay. What's the next motion? 1 C by councelor Holiday on favor carried motion 2A by councelor Moyes. All favor carried. Motion 2B by councelor Moyes. All favor carried. Next motion for by councelor Burnside. All in favor? Carried. Motion three by councelor Chang on favor. We're getting there. We're not there yet. No, it didn't come up yet. Motion three by councelor Chang. On favor carried. Motion five by Deputy Mayor Malik. On favor carried. It's coming. Councelor Fletcher. Motion six. All in favor? Carried. Item is amended. All favor carried. Councelor Bradford, the item that you wanted to release. Councelor Fletcher is here now. If you want to release it. You had an item earlier that you wanted to release. No, it was councelor Fletcher. Oh, maybe it was councelor Bravo. Sorry, it's not quick then. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I thought it was a quick item. All right, Councelor Matlo. No, I don't I don't know why that's there. Oh, okay. All right. Our next item. Oh, Mayor Chow, would you like to move a motion? Uh yes. Um folks want to take a dinner break at 6:30, come back at 7. Yeah. Or maybe six. We usually do it. You are hungry. You want six? 6. 6:30. 6. We break at 6. Come back at 6:30. All right. That's what we'll do. We'll take a break at 6 and be back at 6:30. All in favor? Carry. Our next item is EC27.3, City of Toronto Economic Development Framework. Councelor Bravo, you held the item down. Do we have questions to staff? Anybody have any questions to staff? Councelor Bravo, do you have questions? No. Okay. I'm just hoping to speak. Can you just put your name on the on the screen, please? I am. My name is on, I believe. Okay, there you are. Okay, go ahead. Thank you, speaker. Um, I want to just speak briefly on this and draw everyone's attention to a fantastic piece of work that was done uh over uh a long period of time, more than a year, by uh economic development and culture and social development staff. an outstanding collaboration of these two divisions to bring forward this inclusive economic development framework. This uh is going to be reporting along with the action plan for Toronto's economy. And I have heard it say including from academics that this is groundbreaking work, perhaps the first of its kind in the world, certainly in North America. And what we have here is a way to think about the economy and how we're measuring our economy through the action plan for Toronto's uh economy in a way that not just says trickle down, but actually how the as the pie grows, is everyone getting a piece of the pie? Do workers and and uh local communities get a stake? And this is really important. There's been some fantastic work that's been done also to convene members of the sector over a period of months. We had eight meetings uh with sector leaders, a number of organizations, very well facilitated and robust. And what we're coming out of here is with some very specific commitments around decent work and around how city staff can assess uh uh initiatives and programs of the city of Toronto in such a way that we consider whether they're benefiting and lifting all boats. Uh this is fantastic work and I just want to uh illustrate this by some of the letters that we received that you would all have received. North Carvis says uh what's being presented today represents an important step forward by considering the type and quality of economic growth. Uh it encourages all city departments to integrate inclusive economic development principles into decision making. An approach that has the potential to shift policy toward outcomes that create decent work, support local businesses, retain wealth within communities, and strengthen Toronto's economic sovereignty. METAC Foundation wants uh all of us to know that this framework is a corner cornerstone to advancing community wealth and wealth building in Toronto, strengthening the city's levers to implement the city's 10-year action plan uh and also supports the adoption of this framework. It's an as as an important step forward to building an economy that works for all. Matri foundation says that this is aligned with its core view that lasting progress to end poverty depends on public systems that are designed to ensure dignity, security and opportunity for all and highlights that this is a focus on those who have been excluded um from past growth. uh ensures meaningful participation, decent work and income adequacy and uh also the the principle of accountability through measurement and reporting. Social capital partners says this is the right overall economic development direction for Toronto that the tools proposed in this report focus on accelerating economic growth in ways that build and retain wealth in communities and expand opportunities for more people to own economic assets. Canada's wealthy. Toronto is wealthy. We can deploy our capital and mobilize our enormous resources to deliver more ownership opportunities and benefits for people and communities. This is report is a great roadmap. The United Way uh indicates its strong support and wishes to uh for the city to focus on implementation in and uh wants to be a partner in in all of the operationalization of the framework. And finally, I want to uh recognize my uh co-chair. I I I chaired all of the meetings and and that was uh Colette Murphy from the Atinson Foundation who says the city and everyone who contributed can be proud of the result is an important tool for making Canada's largest municipality and an and econom and economic center even stronger more resilient and more competitive. And this there's an emphasis on uh placed on measurement and accountability. And I think that this is really a crucial piece of this work is that we are holding ourselves accountable to commitments, but we're also recognizing that there is an ecosystem of organizations that it's the private sector, it's the public sector, it's civil society, it's it's communities across the city. And this is really about the entire city, not just one segment, not just the financial services sector downtown, but everybody that contributes because the economy is absolutely all of us. And as as the economy grows, if that's the goal, we have to make sure that we're writing the inequality that has threatened our city. Uh and I I just I'm really really happy and grateful to have been uh able to work with city staff and and uh community based organizations, uh experts, academics who came to the table together. Uh and this kind of endorsement, I think, indicates that this is a quality piece of work we can all be proud of. Thanks. Thank you. on the item. Favor carried. I don't see anybody in the council chambers. Um, our next item is CC 27.7. Councelor Saxs, you held the item down, but do we have questions to staff? Anybody questions for staff? Um, councelor Sax, could you put your name your name up on, please? And Okay, councelor Saxs, questions. Yeah, questions to staff. Hold on. Can you just put your name up? Question to staff. Okay, there you go. Okay. Question sister. Right. Okay. Um so we've we've talked many times about the issue of trash um that may be associated with these businesses and um uh also in light of the concern raised by the business improvement associations which at their own expense are cleaning a lot of these areas. So, what precautions are you proposing to take to make sure that the the vendors who are profiting from this new permission clean up all the trash and litter that's associated with the packaging that they distribute through the speaker. I'll start by saying that the permit will include conditions that they uh provide their own waste recepticles that they take that away with them and that they're responsible to clean up their immediate area. And I'll invite my colleague from waste operation or sorry from parks operations to talk a bit more about what we'll do specifically, right? Because my concern is not just what people drop right next to the cart, but if they go a little distance away and drop it, which is what we see all the time. We already have so much food packaging in our parks. What are you going to do to stop this making it worse? Uh through the speaker. Um so counselor we do we are looking at where the locations and sites are going to be and we're going to ensure that the proper receptacles are in place and that the proper level of frequency of litter pickup is also in place prior to however we're going to continue to monitor because park staff are continually contin uh cleaning litter from the parks and solid waste will be managing the bin removals but we're going to monitor that to ensure that we have the right levels in place whether that be adding additional bins adding additional frequency of pickup of the litter or adding more resources to litter pick throughout the day. Additionally, we'll be able to review 311 service requests and be able to analyze those and uh allocate resources accordingly. Well, we know that you're working really hard already and really struggling to keep the litter picked up in parks. Um you've described additional resources, additional monitoring, additional cleanups. How is that going to be funded? uh through the speaker. It is part of our base service level. We do have the ability to be able to um leverage resources where we see a trend or an increase of something occurring. We'll be able to analyze this information afterwards and if we need to seek additional resources, we will. But at this point, we're looking at reallocating where required. Does the fee proposed include provision for enhanced litter cleanup? at this time? No, it does not. Okay. Um I don't don't want to run out of time. Um the what role are you proposing to pro how are you going to consult with counselors to ensure that the right parks are chosen and the right locations are chosen uh through the speaker. We're going to start with an uh a review of the possible park location. So, we'll look at it operationally first, where you might have a washroom, access to water, a paved surface to put the truck. Once we've shortlisted sites that look operationally feasible, we're going to have a conversation with the counselor, invite their thoughts and concerns and work to consensus on appropriate park locations, but that will also be informed by community input. Um, and in particular, feedback from local BAS. Well, exactly. Um, going back to the question of litter cleanup, if you were to increase the fee enough that there would be resources to provide an enhanced level of litter cleanup, which we've got every reason to think is going to be needed. What would the increase be? We don't have that amount um as yet, counselor, as this is a trial year, but we'll be keeping our eye on that um through the first year to see if that's something we need to come back to um council to consider. Well, your budget was badly slashed this year. Do you have the resources to do this extra cleanup this for a whole year? uh counselor um as I noted before we do have a base service level and that service level will remain in place but we'll be able to leverage that knowing that if there is you know seeing trends if there is you know locations that require either more frequency pickup additional bins or additional litter picking we'll be we'll be able to respond to that. Do you have anything that will allow you to put additional to change the permitted location if there's a if a particular vendor is a big problem? Can you do anything about it through the speaker? Yeah, that's at the city's discretion. We can um revoke a permit, change a location if we need to midyear. That is correct. Okay. Thank you. Uh speaker. Yes, thank you. Um now I did meet with staff. I had my briefing. I express concerns that I that I have but and and some of the questions was by councelor Saxs. Councelor Sax is mic is still on. Um some of the questions by council sax about the letter, but do we have do the counselors have a choice on what parks you're picking or or can we are you going to be consulting with the counselors if they want them in their parks or not? because I Okay, go ahead. Through the speaker. Absolutely. And counselors can certainly opt out if that's their preference. So, if a counselor doesn't want it in their parks at all, we could say no. That is correct. Well, because the email I got from staff today, they they're asking me when I want to have consultation at Egllandon Flats. Councelor, I'm happy to follow up with you separately from this, but you're under no obligations. Yeah, I got I got an email from staff. It just came in today. So, looking at this, it sounds like you've already chosen the park and you want me to have consultation. So, I just want to confirm. Is that true or are you not going to consult with me first? Speaker. Um, yes, absolutely. We would consult with you first. It's just the first step in the assessment process. Okay. Because you know I have problems now and Donna even know all the problems I have especially at Smite Park. Um now with some of my parks uh where we have issues in the summer where people are coming and music's going on. They're barbecuing and food and garbage and you know like it really concerns me that this will cause even a a bigger problem in these some of these parks that we do have issues existing issues and that's why I brought it up with staff and the litter was one of the biggest issue for me too because right now we're constantly sending emails to staff that there's garbage in our parks and that and and thanks to your staff but I you know I think this is going continue. I know you have a plan for the litter. You did speak to councelor Saxs about that, but I'm really concerned about that if we can if we're going to keep on top of it because I really think it can escalate and it's going to be all enforcement. So, are you're ready to take this on uh through the speaker? Um counselor, we need to run through the assessment process and feedback like you've just provided right now is really important to making those decisions together. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Councelor Saxs to speak. Oh, are there questions? H okay. Sorry. Uh C councelor Thompson. Thank you. Um mayor for you to staff. Um I I just wanted to first of all you're this right uh I wanted first of all to welcome you to the family and thank you very much. Uh you've been terrific to deal with. I just wanted to say that publicly. Um wanted to ask you specifically and I'll just specifically name the park in my ward. Uh Thompson Park. We've had over the last number of years some huge issues there and I want to say that the park park staff there have actually responded really well but part of the challenge is that we have bins that are overflowing and the it doesn't appear that the frequency of pickup is consistent. I'm just wondering what would your plan be to address these issues? And again, I I know that the staff have worked really hard there, but because of the uh great intensity of population use of the park, it becomes rather problematic for the staff at times. I'm just wondering what your plans are for that park specifically. Through the speaker, we would be working closely, solid waste would be closely working with uh the parks department to determine whether or not there'd be additional frequency of collection required. We could also look at increasing the distribution of bins throughout the park or different locations if it was needed. Okay, that's great. Um, with the advent of providing opportunities of uh more vending in our parks in general, what is the uh responsibility of those particular vendors who are being permitting or permitting uh the park uh to use? Will they have a responsibility as well? through the speaker. Yes, absolutely. Their responsibility is to keep their area tidy and clean. Oh, that's great. That's great. And um just the issue around noise. Um and um we have seen a propensity of that and I realize that what we are talking about is food and and and and beverage sales and so on in our parks but with that becomes becomes more activities and so on and noise. What is the plan to uh address the issue about the greater frequency of noise and variety of music being played at a very loud level? I'm just wondering what is the responsibility of our staff because it seems that obviously they have some challenges in terms of dealing with that. Do they have additional um recourse with respect to park security coming in to assist the staff in general? Is there a plan for that? Have you received any feedback from your staff that those are some of the issues that they're facing and the the plans that you would actually put in place to address those issues? Uh through the speaker, maybe I can answer that. Uh MLS is uh enforcing the parks bylaw. So MLS will uh patrol uh high priority parks as well as respond to service requests. uh amplification uh in parks is not permitted. Uh both the noise bylaw as well as some noise obligations under the parks bylaw would be enforced by MLS. Uh but it would be on a response basis and proactively where we are in patrol. Great. Thank you. Thank you speaker. Thank you. So we'll go to speakers. councelor Bats to speak. Um yes, thank you. Um I mean thank you to staff. I know there a lot of work has gone into this and I am aware that many members of the public have expressed interest in more food options in parks and I will say that includes a grade four class um that I met with to invite their interest and what they most wanted to see in our parks. And Terry, you'll be glad to know their number one was request was more ice cream and their number two request is water guns. Um, so there's a lot of enthusiasm, maybe not from the parents, but at least from the kids, that there will be more opportunities to buy probably ice cream, um, and maybe other food items in the parks. But we also do need Yeah, sorry this But we also do need to get to pay some attention to what the consequences are to everybody else. Um the base funding to pick up litter in the parks I appreciate, but there's always litter in the parks. Um there's a lot of litter in the parks and even though Donna Donna's team is amazing and they've gone through a number of the parks in my ward and I've gone back in there with the team the following week and we've found we've spent hours picking up trash that wasn't picked up before. And a very high percentage of that, aside from the cigarette butts, is food packaging. So, we know that the base level of cleaning already isn't enough to keep our parks in decent condition, much less beautiful, as we discussed this morning. And we know that because the base level of funding that the parks department has isn't enough to keep the parks clean, many of my BAS are doing their own cleaning because they want the parks to be clean enough to be attractive to both residents and tourists and the base level of cleaning doesn't do it. So having yet more disposable food packaging multiplying in the parks is working against all of our cleanups we're going to do this weekend. It's working against the efforts of the many of my BAS who have been picking this up. And the what you've told us is that the vendors aren't paying anything that's going to contribute to enhanced cleaning. There's nothing in there that makes them pay to the BAS or contribute to the BAS. Um, I recognize you said this is one year we're going to watch it, but we're creating a big problem that we this is completely foreseeable both in terms of competing with the local businesses and in adding to their cleanup costs and in uglifying our parks with more trash. So, I know you care about our parks. I mean, you took this job because you care about the parks. I know Donna cares passionately about the parks, but we haven't put the necessary guard rails or protections in here, even though I begged for them while you were developing it. So, um, so that's a problem that you're going to need to watch for. And then I'm going to be encouraging people to report. The second, um, uh, problem again is the relationship with the BAS. Nabia wrote a very clear and I think helpful letter saying yes of course we want more small businesses and we want the local businesses to be able to sell in the parks and we've talked about this also in Ehan about how do we have more sales next to the parks but it has to not cannibalize what's already there and so again you've you've relied a lot on what's going to happen later so I'm urging you to take very seriously what the BAS say what the local counselors say and be cautious about what you put and where and then watch it like a hawk. We do want this to be better. I've written back to the grade four class and told them, "Okay, you're lucky you're getting ice cream, but let's make sure that the net result is good." And that means really hard work from you folks and us. Thank you. Thank you. Councelor Matlo, I have a motion, Madam Speaker. Uh, and it's about having a um a real a real food kiosk in a uh in a park in Toronto St. Paul's as a pilot uh with an option for any ward counselor to opt in if they choose to. Um, and you know, so staff have been working on this project since I brought a members motion a while back um to provide more options for food in parks. And again, it's not about every park and it's not about the same thing everywhere. and you know to address some concerns that have been raised. It doesn't mean that it's it doesn't mean that it's going to be imposed anywhere that it shouldn't be, but it's about where it's welcome and where it fits. Let's see if we can be more flexible and fun in our city. Uh, you know, you may remember when I when I fought to um legalize responsible adults to have a drink in a park. I heard all these arguments like the sky was going to fall and there was going to be a zombie apocalypse and everything was just going to go awful and and you know, I made the arguments at the time, but like look around the world. It's actually normal around the world. We're the anomaly. And since we've been more permissive about it, like the sky didn't fall. Like responsible people are still being responsible. And then people who are not being responsible or behave badly are still doing that. And we have to address that. And that's why we have rules and laws to address bad behavior. But we we got to loosen up a little bit. Just got to loosen up. Um, if you look at New York City where whether it be Bryant Park, whether it be on the Riverside or I mean, you look around the world, they've got kiosk, they've got different food vending options. There's lots of different ways to, you know, meet up with a friend and grab grab a sandwich, grab a drink, grab a coffee, uh, catch up on life. Most people like people who litter litter. People who don't litter don't litter. And most people want to be responsible. And of course, staff have thought about that. Um, but let's not be afraid of I wouldn't even say taking risks. I'm not asking you to take a risk. I'm asking Toronto to finally just like look around the world and see how much fun we can have and how creative we can be and how many options we can have, how vibrant our city can be. You know, I initiated toward a beautiful city because I want us to be inspired by our architecture and our public spaces and uh better street furniture and you know, up our game when it comes to design standards and that can coexist with also being more agile and vibrant and creative with how we live every day, how we meet up with each other. Um, and you know, some people have backyards in our city, but many many people don't. Many people In particular, tenants often don't even have access to an outdoor space in their apartment. So, parks are their backyards. They're the front yards. That's where they get some vitamin D on a beautiful sunny day. So, why not create these spaces that are exciting for people, fun, because this is where people want to be. And again, I'll just reiterate. Just because we try things in different places doesn't mean that if it doesn't work, we you know, we should be willing to pull back if it doesn't work. But let's let's go for it. Let's be playful. Let's enjoy ourselves. And yes, be responsible and make sure that there are we need better access to bathrooms. And by the way, just on that, what you know, we shouldn't just be talking about bathrooms and parks. There should be like other big cities do. There should be public restrooms throughout the city. What I'm saying is let's be a big city. Like let's not be envious of what other big cities do. Let's be the city we want to be. And what staff are proposing and again yes it should be in consultation with all of us and our communities. But what is being proposed is let's be this fun big vibrant beautiful city that has lots of different creative options for coming together in our public spaces. And yes, let's make sure that we are able to clean up after ourselves and make sure that we're responsible about how we do it. And as this moves forward, we're going to learn and we're going to build on that and we're going to be, you know, iterative with counselors and with the communities and we're going to get it right. The reason I moved the motion for the pilot of my ward is because I want to lean in on this. Um, I want more Bryant Parks. I want places like that in Toronto and I'm really interested in exploring how to make it work and how to make it work well because I love the city and I love our parks and like and I want and I want to meet up with some of you and let's go for some really exciting food options and have some fun talk about how to build the city together. Thank you. Thank you. We do have um a question for you. Three minutes. Council Mantis, clarification of the motion. First, I would like to commend you on on your motion. Not on. Now it's on. I would like to commend you on your motion. Thank you. Um, Mr. Mantis, would you be willing to add war 22 in the motion to be the first one also in Scar Bro? Yeah, absolutely. I I deliberately said counselors can opt in if you want to do it right here on the floor. Right here on the floor. Let's let's move on. I think councelor Mantis, if you want to include one and two, you're going to have to speak and move your own motion. Okay. All right. Then I wholeheartedly endorse you doing so. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Deputy Mayor Malik. Thank you. Um I do have a motion. Um and this motion ensures we include uh the Sherburn Common Pavilion in the new application process for concessions and parks. Um this has uh been this is a landmark site that has uh long been designed and intended for this use um to serve residents in the area especially in this growing neighborhood and also visitors to our waterfront. Um, so I was very glad to work with uh parks business services and parks operations staff to bring forward uh this motion and to thank you all for the work to bring this report to us and for the work that you do every day to make our parks welcoming places. Councelor Myers. Thank you, speaker. I just want to thank park staff uh for this report. Uh we've obvious obviously been having some good work happening in Milikin Park. Uh we are set to open the new cafe May 5th. Uh which has been closed for I think maybe 10 years. Uh and we are opening it with a notfor-profit sachets uh run by a local champion Mahesh. Uh this is an organization that works to give uh free meals to low-income seniors and they will be running a cafe, not for-p profofit cafe in order to help fund their operations. Uh so this is exact. So even before the motion was put forward, park staff were already doing this and I just want to recognize and acknowledge them and thank them. Uh I know this is going to be a big win for the community, especially as summer is coming and along a lot of people in the community are excited about finally getting this community asset open and living up to its full potential. So, thank you very much. Thank you. Maybe we'll be able to deal with this item before we break. Mayor Cha, thank you. Uh, Toronto is a city of neighborhoods and our parks are where those neighborhoods come alive. This summer, we are making them even better. Mobile vending in our parks is more than just about being convenient. is about supporting local economy, creating uh opportunity for small businesses owners, making sure every family, councelor Matlo's family included, no matter which park they head to, can enjoy a great day out and we want everyone to get ahead. That means giving small businesses a new place to grow and opening the door for people who wants to start something new. A food cart, a new concept, tested out, first step towards building something of their own. And this program prioritized local Toronto businesses because when we invest in our parks, our small businesses, we should invest in our own communities at the same time. And for families, it would make a real difference. Some of our most loved parks uh don't have many food options nearby. And if you're spending an afternoon with your kids or your grandkids this summer, you will have access to good local food right where you are. And on the logistics side already there are hundreds of licensed they've been licensed they're already uh creating amazing food they are mobile vendors people who operate food trucks or food carts they know how to do this well and they will be eligible to participate and I believe uh we will see a full list in the coming weeks and local counselors will have full say about uh so that uh who which card should come into which park. So you will have complete say especially uh the speaker France speaker Nazi because you know exactly which parks you want which park you don't want and so this is locally controlled uh and would be perfect. So, it's good for small businesses, good for parks, good for Toronto families, and I look forward uh for it to come alive. And I will drop by to your park that is uh opening for small businesses. I know councelor Meyers that Milican Park, I've looked at that space and I thought, come on, someone could use this. We need some food there. and uh I'm so glad you are allowing it in your area. So, thank you and uh it should be uh it should really serve our families well. Thank you, Councelor Mantis. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to um first of all say um a big congratulations to uh councelor Matlo for the motion that he's putting uh forward and I would just like to uh amend his motion to add war 22 scarbor agent court. Okay, just one sec. They're just finishing your motion. Okay. Okay, I think he's just adding one and two. What? Okay, there we go with councelor Mantis. Okay, thanks. All right, last speaker. Councelor Cole. Yes. Uh I uh I just uh wanted to first of all u say it's unfortunate that this started off with discussions about litter. I mean get off it. I mean we're talking about litter and we're the other hand we're talking about our great parks, our incredible diversity in this city, the people that uh thrive as families in our parks. That's what we should be talking about. Not about litter. Yeah, we're gonna clean up, but let's not put the litter before the food. Okay, so the litter comes after. Uh, but you know, like we sometimes forget because as members of council, like yesterday, somebody said to me, I was watching your council meeting and I couldn't believe how negative everybody was for all this council. Do you guys ever have anything positive to say about the Toronto? And I said, yeah, it was kind of a downer. you know, FIFA, the world's going to end when FIFA comes to Toronto, and there's going to be congestion, and there's going to be hell and brimstone. And this is an example of what Toronto is really exceptional about is our parks. Uh, and this is an attempt to basically animate these parks. And food animates parks. But let's get away from just a hot dogs and ice cream cones. Let's put some real food in our parks. Uh, and uh, I think we've got, you know, like I've always said to people, the best place in Toronto to eat is Scar Bro. Nobody ever talks. They talks about the lack of transit in Scar Bro. They talk poor people in Scar Bro, no hospitals in Scar Bro. Nobody ever talks about the best food. It was named by one of the best Burmy magazines. The best place in the world, one of the best places in the world to eat is Scar Bro. That's what we should be talking about. We should be celebrating these incredible communities. And there's no other city like this that has about 150 different cultures that provide food and uh music, etc. Animation from their own culture. And I think this is an initiative that goes towards recognizing that there's more to Toronto parks than picking up litter. But let's celebrate our parks, celebrate our diversity, celebrate small business, and celebrate good food, and uh the best of luck in uh on this adventure. Let's put the um motions on the screen. Maybe we can deal with this before our break. Um first motion Motion three by councelor Mantis. On favor carried. Motion one as amended. All in favor carried. Motion one. Yeah, we already voted on that one. Pardon. Oh, I know. I'm so fast. I know. Motion two by Deputy Mayor Malik. On favor carried. Item is amended. On favor carried. Uh before we break, is there any uh quick items that we can move that you don't really need to hold them down? Councilor Malo, the one for Rotten Boulevard, you're still not ready for that one. Uh so the one for CC 40.8 98 59 and 81 L Boulevard. Do you have the motion on that item? It's a tribunal hearing. No. No. Oh. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Councelor Matlo, you want to move it? Uh, so I I Yeah, I move it. Okay. So, councelor Matlo is moving DC 40.8. Uh, the the motion is on the screen. Amendment on favor. Those if any carried. Item is amended. All favor carried. Uh, councelor Cheng, your um tribunal land tribunal hearing. Are you ready to release your item? Which is I just wanted to check in with the clerks. Oh, the the clerk is saying no. Not yet. Okay. Thank you. Councelor Fletcher, are you can you release the expropriation of 1430 Gerard? I'm just trying to release some of these items. You're not releasing it. Okay. All right. Um I guess there's no more further we can um Okay. IE28.2. Yeah. Okay. I don't need three. Okay. Councelor Malo, go ahead. Put your name up so I can time you. IE28.2, right? Okay. Go ahead. Um, I want to uh I want to thank uh both city staff and councelor Cole and his office uh for the work that we've been doing together to respond to both our local community but also doing something that will serve the entire city given that the Allen and Egllington is designed in a way that does not work. Every day, any one of us who use that area to get through the city know that Eglington becomes like a traffic jam, like a parking lot uh because of the configuration of the intersection. And what people have been doing, commuters have been doing for many years along with the disruption because of the ORT construction over 15 years is that a lot of people now make their way through the neighborhoods to get around that traffic. We need to make the Egllington and Allen work so that vehicles can more seamlessly come on and off the Allen that they can see Egun as a functional street also to support the businesses whether it be along the Edgington Way or in Little Jamaica. And finally uh uh uh change the intersection and its configuration so that it works for everyone whether you live in the area or driving through it. And the community's been asking for this for a very long time. So finally, due to motions that both councelor Cole and I have moved together, there is a study now actively underway. There's consultation actively underway with the community. And councelor Cole and I will continue to work to expedite these plans so that we can finally get a fix for Egun Allen. And I'll just I'll remind us the Egllington Allen is an accident of history. It should have never been done that way. We should have never seen an expressway meet a main street in the heart of our community. But that's reality. So now we have to make reality better. Better for the local community, better for all of us. And there are ways to do it. And we're pushing for this to be done as quickly as possible. So again, thank you to Councelor Cole for his partnership and his leadership in the community. Thank you to uh my staff, Na Lennox and Mike's staff, Andy Stein, and all of our team who've been working on it. Uh and I also want to thank the leadership from transportation because they are actively working with us the way that we hope and we're very grateful for the hard work that they've done. But most importantly, what you're about to do, which is you are going to entirely fix this tomorrow. Okay? No expectations, but we believe in you and we're going to work with you until we get there. Thank you very much. I 28.2 on favor carried. No more quick items. Okay, Madam Speaker, I I have a question. How about the remaining members motions that are um at the end that were submitted later because I have one there that I'm happy to quick release. We don't have them yet. I know. But the mm 40.42.43.44.45. Hold on. Hold on. Please. Amen. Yeah, put it on the screen. Which one? Mm. Okay. Mm 4042. Um, okay. We've already introduced it, right? Okay. Anybody want wish to hold it by councelor Matlo, councelor Cole, but the lane way? No. On favor carry. Thank you. 43 and this is the traffic flow by councelor Bravo and deputy mayor Malik. Anyone wish to hold it? No. All on favor carried. Okay. Next one. Mm 40.44 OT hearing for Bassor Street by CH councelor Chang. All in favor? Carry. Okay, there's one more. So, councelor Chang, your members motion went through. Mm. 4045. Love parade. Love parade by councelor Fletcher. On favor carried. Okay. Pardon? Hey, which one? Which one? CC the one you asked me about a minute ago. Okay. So CC 40.9 or something like that. CC 40.9 exporporation of 1430 Gard. I'll release it. Okay. Councelor Fletcher is releasing. All in favor? Carry. Great. Okay. Oh, councelor Bravo already. Pardon? Councelor Holidayiday. Thank you, Speaker. I can release MM40.15, strengthening racial equity in city programs and services. I would like a recorded vote on parts 2, three, and four. Okay. So, councelor Holidayiday is releasing MM40.15 and he wants a recorded vote. 2, three, and four. Okay. Recorded vote on two, three, and four. Councelor Prussy, your vote, please. Councelor Bradford, when you're seated. Councelor Pashnik, we need your vote, please. Councelor Pastor Knock, please. Councelor Shen, how do you vote? Please in favor. Thank you. Parts two, parts two, three, and four of the motion carry. The vote is 17 to one. Okay. And on the balance, on favor carried. All right. So, we're recessed to 6:30. Madam Speaker, I've been told that my item is ready to be released. Staff doesn't have the motion yet. Councelor Chank CC, they they do now. been told that it's pre-irculated CC 40.7. Well, we've already recessed. Yeah, thank you.

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