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Riverstone Park Accessibility Design Endorsed - 10 Sep 26
Oakville · September 22, 2026
Members of the public may watch the
meeting live on oakville.ca
or the town's YouTube channel. So, the
agenda and the minutes and the
materials, sorry, for today's meeting
are available also on oakville.ca
um under the town hall uh and the
website under the town hall agendas and
meetings.
So, we have one for today's agenda. We
have one discussion item and two
information items.
So I'll begin. Um so madame clerk, are
there any regrets for today's meeting?
>> Yes, Dean and Julie are regrets.
>> Okay. Thank you.
So the next item is declarations of
pecunary interest. So do any committee
members have any declarations of
pecuniary interest today?
None noted.
Next item is confirmation of the minutes
of the previous meeting. The previous
meeting, as you know, was held on June
11th, 2026.
So, I would like to Are there any
questions about the minutes from the
last meeting?
Okay. So, I'd like to have a motion that
the minutes of the Accessibility
Advisory Committee meeting of June 11th,
2026 be approved. May I have a motion,
please?
Okay, Nora. Thank you, Nora.
Okay,
any objections?
Okay, that's carried.
Now we our first and only discussion
item is an item on the Riverside Park
accessibility features.
So I'm assuming I'm turning um this over
over to Carmen um who's going to speak
to us on the uh presentation. So they
presentation will be put up on the
screen uh for everybody to see and there
will be an opportunity for questions at
the end.
Thank you, Carmen, and welcome. [snorts]
>> Um, okay, there we go. Good afternoon,
members of the accessibility advisory
committee. My name is Carmen Huey, and
I'm a landscape architect in the parks
and open space department. Today, I'm
here to present to you the Riverstone
Park um project which we had commenced
uh earlier this year. So,
Just trying to advance the slide here.
Um,
thank you. Um so through the agenda um
I'll be covering off the project
timeline, the context map of where
Riverstone Park is, the building
standards and guidelines that we follow,
um as well as the Riverstone Park design
itself, including the accessible and
inclusive design features, some
cross-sections as well as the key
accessible features and next steps.
Next, please.
So the project timeline um is in front
of you on this slide. So we commenced
the project as I mentioned earlier in
February of 2026 and we went through a
series of uh public meetings uh
in-person public meetings uh between
March 2026 and July of 2026. So the
concept of the design of the park was uh
built on public consultation. We then
embarked on detail design in July and we
are currently still in detail design and
we thought this would be a good stage
for us to check in with the
accessibility advisory committee on the
design and incorporate any feedback you
may have on the accessible features of
the park or if you have a lens on
different aspects we haven't covered
welcome to uh hear hear uh hear you out
on those as well. Um, so after the
detailed design is complete and
incorporating some of the comments that
we receive, we will go to tender and we
will award in the early part of 2027 and
go to construction in April of 2027 and
be completed by October of 2027.
Next, please.
So, this is a context map showing where
Riverstone Park is located, which is
east of Trfalger Road, uh north of
Riverstone Drive and west of Milford
Lane. It's nestled uh in in this pocket
with um uh three sides uh fronting uh
with sorry, town homes fronting onto the
park. And it's a 65 hectar piece of
land.
Next.
So the building standards and guidelines
that we did follow which were
foundational to the design of Riverstone
Park was the accessibility for Ontarians
with disabilities act and the town of
Oakville's Oakville Universal Design
Standards as well as the town's
guidelines for design of accessible
facilities as well as the Ontario
building code.
Next,
uh, this slide in front of you is a
layout of the Riverstone Park design.
So, we're really excited to present this
to you. Um and as I mentioned
uh first of all the orientation north is
uh at the top of the page and this this
park design is the community's vision uh
which is really to create a sequence of
comfortable connected spaces that feel
natural and support everyday activities
recreation and fit comfortably in the
surrounding context. The park will
feature an accessible playground,
um, three fitness stations with six
pieces of equipment, a shade structure
for shelter from the elements, and the
main entrance, you can see, um, is
located at the uh, culde-sac of
Riverstone Drive. And the main entrance
uh is accessible with a paved surface
and a wayfinding feature uh that's
conceptually shown now as the medallion
that you see in front. Um and the view
of the open lawn which is central to the
park design is framed by a pergola with
seating beneath.
On the west side of the park is a
quieter area with a series of games
tables that are sheltered by high
branching trees and some softly mounded
greenery.
The entire park is designed and graded
to be accessible to all. On the next
slide, I will speak to some of the more
accessible and inclusive design
features. Um so as you can see the park
is accessible from Trfalga Road,
Riverstone Drive and Milford Lane. Uh
the entrance points are indicated with
the stars outlined in red. And then
throughout the park there are also some
yellow stars with the black outlines and
those are also uh barrierfree areas and
facilities. So, um the games tables, the
pergola, the pathways that you see with
the red, uh dotted lines,
um and and all the walkways around the
playground as well. Um all these
walkways will be illuminated so that
clear edges can be uh discerned. Um as
well there is an accessible ramp into
the playground uh which will be surfaced
in engineered wood fiber as is the
fitness stations uh surrounding the
playground. There will be flush curbs um
approaching the fitness stations.
Uh next please. Thank you. Uh so I've
got three crosssections here. Uh section
A is a diagonal axis of a cross-section
that shows you uh the interface between
the existing multi-use path along
Trafalgar Road. Um the ornamental fence
and masonry column features that will
front the uh the frontage of the MUP and
create a really well- definfined park
frontage. And then this will be buffered
by high branching trees and uh softly
mound uh mounded area planted with
perennials which then opens up into this
beautiful open lawn where people can
recreate. Um, and then it then
transcends into the more active part of
the park, which is a playground and
fitness stations. And then it then moves
into the Milford Milford uh lane area
into the existing neighborhood. Section
B uh shows quieter social spaces like
the games table area and this could
range from pingpong to chess to um I
think corn cornhole is the other games
that that are being uh proposed there.
So it's more of a quiet area um and
buffered buffered by the trees along
Trafala Road.
Um it then descends into the open lawn
and then comes back up around the
playground. And as you can see on the
right hand side of this cross-section,
there's also a rain garden feature. So
this whole park design is takes on a
more sustainable design approach to
storm water management.
Uh section C illustrates the western
edge of the park. This uh the
residential area um as you can see is
buffered by by some high branching trees
and perennials uh perennial plantings as
well. the um there's a series of small
social destinations
um pictured
um pictured up above and then it
eventually as you move uh southwards it
uh ends up in an accessible unit PA
plaza entrance which is uh the main
entrance into the park and then into the
concrete sidewalk which then connects to
the multi-use path.
Uh next please.
So these uh this slide just shows some
of the proposed uh types of park
elements that you would see in
Riverstone Park. So I mentioned a
pergola with seating beneath. Um also
some uh seating that is accessible
um bench seating that's accessible.
There's also going to be some low
concrete walls for those who, you know,
may be walking their dog or have a baby
with um in a stroller who might want to
rest or just um take in take in the
park. There's going to be illumination
um an accessible playground and uh the
surfacing for the fitness areas would be
engineered wood fiber. Um next please.
Uh so this is a summary of the key
accessible features. So there will be
accessible walkway connections into the
park. Accessible flush curbs and
material changes between all park
elements. Um accessible ramp into
engineered wood fiber playground. And
there will be a 70% tonal contrast to
signal change in paving materials and
definition of spaces within Riverstone
Park. and a minimum of 20% of seating
opportunities will be accessible
including a paved pad to accommodate um
mobility devices. So that is a minimum
but I think in our current plan we are
we are surpassing that. So I'm glad to
report that um illumination as I
mentioned will be also provided to
define clear edges and mounted on
pedestals. And finally, all signage will
conform with AODDA and Town of Oakville
universal design standards.
And the next steps, thank you. Um, we
will continue on with um detailed design
of course integrating any
recommendations uh that we receive from
accessibility advisory committee. uh
will go to tender
uh in the later part of this year and we
will award by early 2027 and
constructing this spring
and the project will be completed by
October of 2027.
Uh thank you for your time and uh
looking forward to any questions you may
have.
>> Thank [clears throat] you Carmen.
>> You're welcome. Okay, now I'll ask are
there any questions um from the
committee members? Uh just before I
start, I understand uh that uh member uh
Dean Travers did submit um some feedback
um that we did receive by email and that
will be shared uh with you um Carmen as
well. Oh, Dean's on. [laughter]
Okay, Dean, you can speak for yourself.
I don't have to talk about your email.
>> No, I think you did it well. So, I've
got it written down. I don't think I
need to read it, but I can post it in
chat if it help. Basically, I'm
addressing
factors that may or may not have been
fully recognized, particularly dealing
with um vision impairment, blind people.
I recognize the
longstanding relationship that Oakville
has with guide dog.
It's a big program down on Kur that's
moving up that way. Um and also
something more about sensory related
factors uh people with seizures. But I I
got a couple of questions now. I just
thought of the parking on um
what whatever that road called River
>> Riverstone.
>> Yeah, Riverstone. So that parking along
the north side that is not just
restricted to resident. So any patron
can park on that. I listen, I know this
is not a design question, but I think
what I'm getting to is not everyone's
going to walk or ride their bike there.
So, um, can someone either get dropped
off by taxi, Uber, Andy Dart, Oakville
Caravan, or themselves and be parked
there? Because I know it's sort of a
call dead street.
>> Uh, through through you Deborah. Um so
the question is concerning parking along
the north side of Riverstone Drive. Um
the the answer is yes. There will be
parking uh on street parking that will
be accommodated along Riverstone Drive
as well as Milford Lane to support the
park.
>> Yeah.
>> Sorry. Can I just ask
>> I just want to ask is that going to be
accessible parking? I think is that an
important factor as well, Dean? is that
it'd be accessible parking as well.
>> Yes, there will be accessible parking.
>> Any other questions, Dean?
>> No, I if that paperwork or what I wrote
down from followup really it just
relates to some fine tuning and
Oakville's got a good relationship with
the Rick Hansen Foundation program
recognized. I'm not saying you got to
certify the park. I'm saying maybe
there's another level of detail that can
help out with on the deconstruction work
that you're doing now.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah,
>> Karen and then Nora.
>> Yeah, just to clarify with the parking,
so to understand it, is it on street
parking or is it designated parking for
the park?
>> It is. It's on street as in there will
be spaces marked for the park but
there's no metering.
>> So it is intended for users of the park.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
Okay. Uh Nora and then uh councelor
Gidding.
>> Okay. Um one of the photographs
that was there it looked like it was the
wood
going into cement. Is that seating or is
that
an accessible walkway?
>> Thank you for that.
>> I
couldn't figure that one out.
>> Yeah, no problem. So, that is actually
um a seat wall height. It's a a seating
element. So, it's about um 45 cm tall
and it has comfortable wood slat
seating. Um, it does not have a back,
but we could certainly integrate a back
uh back rests within that design. Um, it
was just a conceptual precedent photo.
>> Okay. It was just the way it was taken.
I wasn't too sure. It actually looked
like a walkway and people in wheelchairs
can fall off the edge. So, that's what
my my question was. Um, and also as far
as the parking, are the spaces wide
enough? because we have a large van. We
don't have like a caravan for my husband
>> and we have a lot of issues trying to
get him in and out and people parking
too close to him.
>> Right.
>> So, are we going to take a look at that
to make sure every vehicle for anybody
with a wheelchair or walker could get in
and out easily?
>> Yes, absolutely. It will be accessible
and designed to our accessible parking
spot standards and there is plenty of
space which is good in this less urban
context. So that that helps us as well.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Thanks Nora Councelor Gidding.
>> All right. Thanks for your presentation
Carmen. Could you go back to slide
number nine?
The one with all the pictures on it.
>> Thank you.
There we are.
>> Yes.
>> So, in the bottom left corner, we've got
the uh cedar shavings or whatever we
call them. And above it, there's the
green pathway
uh cutting through the area.
What will that material be?
Well, that is um that is actually a
precedent image um intended to show the
engineered wood fiber playground which
we have envisioned, right?
>> Um unfortunately, we won't be able to
put in rubberized surfacing for uh
Riverstone Park because that is more for
destination park sort of uh level or
category of park. Uh but the entire
surface of Riverstone Park's playground
will be engineered wood fiber.
All right. And are the
facilities in I can't quite see it. Um,
is that accurately portray what would be
there? I take it there'll be uh swings
of some sort. There'll be an accessible
swing if it follows uh some of the other
parks, a [clears throat] climbing
apparatus. Just curious whether those
will be accessible. Uh it's awfully
tough pushing wheelchairs through wood
chips.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I I understand for sure. And
that was some of the feedback we got as
well from from the public. Uh ultimately
this is more of a neighborhood level of
park. So um I think at this time our
parks and open space standards do call
for an engineered wood fiber. Um, as for
the play equipment, it will be
accessible. That will be um a terms
terms of reference for for the type of
playground we procure. So that could be
swings, it could be um the play the play
equipment itself. And we are also
looking to um address neurodeiverse
uh issues as well through the
playground. Um, the the intent of this
image, and I'm sorry if it was
misleading in any way, was just to show
that it's going to be more of a natural
material like wood as opposed to shiny,
you know, shiny metal or plastic. So,
it's going to take on a more sustainable
design approach. Um, which is what the
community would really like to see here.
>> All right. Is it possible or do we have
examples uh with three young
grandchildren? I think I've been at all
the parks in Oakville. Uh, is it
possible to locate
the accessible
play structures, for lack of a better
word, uh, to be
easily accessible from the hard surface
or the paved surface just to make it
easier uh, to get young ones over there?
>> Absolutely. It makes complete sense. So
we can definitely emphasize that in our
terms of reference.
>> All right. And the top picture the with
the
uh roof in the semic-ircular area is
that the type of
shade coverage that we will have.
>> Oh, sorry. Which which image are you
talking about? the top left corner I
believe it is.
>> Oh. Oh, the pergola. Yes, it will. I
mean, it won't take that exact form, but
it's inspired. The inspiration is is
like that where you've got an overhead
um canopy feature that has can filter in
some light without being fully shaded.
That was uh a request by the residents
to have like pure shade shelter but also
one with uh filtered light.
>> Well, thank you very much. Based on our
current summers and the heat and the
sun, uh I think we are seeing the future
here in terms of the absolute necessity
for more shade.
>> Great. Thanks, Kermit.
>> Thank you, David.
Thank you. Are there any other questions
at this point or comments? Yes, Karen.
>> Just to follow up with Dave, that
picture with the playground and had the
green path through it, then you're
saying that won't be there.
>> No, no, that that was more of a
precedent image and I apologize for it
being misleading.
But then to Dave's point, there will be
access that a wheelchair can park on the
outside of the the perimeter of the
playground and then be able to try to
access the equipment. So, the equipment
will be positioned to be able to
accommodate a wheelchair that has to
stay on sturdier ground than the
witches, right?
>> Yeah. If if you look at the layout plan,
um Aiden, would you mind pulling up the
layout plan? Thank you.
Um let's see. I think it's
um just one more. Thank you. Um so so
you can see around the playground there
is I think it's about three three and a
half meters wide. So there'll be plenty
of space around the playground for
access. And the way we've got it shown
conceptually now is we've got the uh the
curb ramp into the playground just on
the west side of the play. Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, west side of the playground. Um so
there'll be plenty of space around there
and we'll definitely ensure that even
whatever ends up in the detail design
will have ample space.
>> Okay. As long as I think the equipment
has to be positional for both kind of
access, right? the the middle with the
wood chips, but also if somebody has to
stay on the periphery that they can
access the equipment,
>> right?
>> Thanks.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. Uh any other questions?
Okay. Um I just have a a couple. Carmen,
thank you very much.
>> Um so you just briefly mentioned about
the uh neurode divergence. So, is that
something that um because I I think um
in some of the playgrounds I've been to,
I've been to a couple of Missaga and
Hamilton is that uh I do find that they
have a focus on that area as well. So,
for example, uh for uh neurode divergent
children or people a quiet area so they
have like a a closed um seated area
where the noise can stay out and uh that
sort of thing. So, is that when you
mentioned that is that the thing that
you're considering is a a quiet zone for
um for that.
>> Yes. Yeah. So, I don't know if you're
familiar with Coronation Park, but
>> Yes. Very familiar.
>> Yes. [laughter] So, so there is one
feature in particular that that speaks
to what you're talking about. So,
>> okay.
>> Um and uh the other thing I've noticed
too and again speaking that is um in
some parks they have t what they call um
tactile panels. So it's where you know
for the touch like again for um uh
neurodyiver is that something as well
that you would um consider
>> um as an you know um for uh children?
>> Yeah, I think we would definitely
consider it. Um there's like we're we're
pretty open to what the vendors um have
available and would propose in their
proposals. So I think, you know,
obviously we do have a budget that and a
certain amount of space to work with. So
I' I'd love to have as much as possible
to accommodate all sorts of needs.
>> Yeah. Thank you. Because I do appreciate
that. Um we you know focusing on
accessibility is not just the physical
accessibility but also the um neurode
divergent um population as well. And one
of the other things I've noticed in some
of the parks, just as suggestions, is um
they have um what they call um like a
large uh rocker. So what it is is that
you can bring your wheelchair up. It's a
kind of a large swing kind of thing and
you can bring the wheelchair up in there
and then it can accommodate um people,
not just wheelchair, but other people
and then it sort of swings back and
forths and rocks. Um because I do see in
a lot of the playgrounds where they have
the special swings, you know, the ones
that but it's that requires you to lift
your child. Um so some of the ones that
I've seen have um and even some of them
have the actual um a whirling it's
called a whirling swing. Um and and I'm
sure that your um uh the people that are
doing this will be familiar with it, but
a whirling swing again is um where you
can bring your wheelchair in and then a
parent or somebody can whirl them around
so that they uh they get that. So again,
you're not lifting um uh children in and
out of a a wheelchair because that can
be difficult at times as well. And one
last question is um this might not just
be accessibility but um I'm assuming
that there will be uh accessible
washrooms.
>> No, there will not be a washroom
facility. I'm so [laughter] sorry.
>> Okay. because I was gonna I was asking
about the accessible washrooms and
whether they would be um open year round
because that's one of the things we've
found is that um the washrooms close
during the winter and it's very
difficult um you know in that area. So
is there a reason why Yeah. Is it budget
or
>> Well, it's uh I did I I was actually
going to speak to the fact that through
the public consultation process, we to
be honest, the uh the community really
wanted to keep this park to be a really
low-key sort of park. And they they
mentioned certain things about how um I
think it's I'm just trying to remember
the name of the park that's up the
street from from there. that's a larger
park that has a washroom facility. And I
think they they felt that for the space
that we had to work with, they would
rather put the use of that space towards
um you know more of a
recreational type of use rather than
washrooms which um which are quite
expensive as well. And I think overall
they didn't really care for people
hanging around the washrooms
which you know that was the feedback we
we received.
>> Okay. I I find that interesting. You
know with with children I mean having a
washroom is sometimes um very important
>> um because um
>> yeah. Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. So uh Nora and then Dean
Sorry, Nora, you're on mute.
>> There we go. I kept clicking. It wasn't
working there. Um, washrooms are very
important, especially with somebody in a
wheelchair. And I think you need to look
at somewhere. Um, first of all, all the
wheelchairs
are always push wheelchairs every time
you see a photo. Okay. a lot of um you
know grown-ups going there, a lot of
children they use mobilized power
wheelchairs. So I think we have to start
looking at that and looking at different
sizes
and again with the wood chips, those
wheels spinning in there, people getting
spasms, knocking the chair off, um we
really have to look at these items and
see what's happening. washrooms. You
need to have a washroom. What do you do
with someone who has a lake bag, who has
a catheter and it's filling up?
Where where are we going to empty these
things?
>> I
think that really needs to be thought of
because you're just going to cause bowel
and bladder issues.
So, I think that's very important. And
it doesn't have to be a big fancy thing,
but something that someone with a
wheelchair can go in and empty these
other words. I mean, I've seen people
and they're emptying it, you know,
beside a tree. And you've taken away
dignity.
So, we're we're trying to help people,
but yet we're taking away their dignity
and independence.
So, if we could look at those things, I
understand people don't want kids
hanging around or teenagers. I know
exactly what you're talking about, but
we still if we're doing this park
especially for that, then we have to
think about those things.
>> Thank you for your feedback. I will take
that back.
>> Thank you.
Yeah, I'm up.
Pause means go.
All right. So, uh, listen, I'm not
trying to push back. It may sound that
way, and I'm certainly not trying to run
for any council board in that area, but
I'm going to speak a little bit for the
residents. I put context in this park as
a neighborhood park, and I guess I'm
here speaking on an accessibility
feature. So, do I think all parks, all
public spaces or broadly speaking, the
town of Oakville should have means and
ways to accommodate people who need a
washroom as a basic need. Yes, I think
we should start there in terms of more
public washrooms within the community.
That said,
I'm very happy to see one that town
consulted with the neighborhood.
It's their park to begin with and it's
great that they've got town homes
fronting on with eyes on the site
because [clears throat] I suspect this
park went through some sept crime
prevention to environmental design
review because um listen you can look at
the stats parks are sometimes as bad as
they could be as good and um I think
washrooms public washrooms I I I
wouldn't have been saying this in 198 82
but in 2026
they are right with with so
notwithstanding whether it's me whether
it's um someone who's in need of a
washroom that has some accessibility
accommodation needs or for that matter a
guide dog that has to relieve himself
I think public washrooms are great but
in the context here I don't see any push
to try and get this design to start
putting in the public washroom. The
neighborhood already consulted with it.
They talked about it as crime
prevention. If that pet would actually
approve a public park in the
neighborhood like that, I'd be shocked.
I'd be shocked. So anyways, I'm just
again saying that I'm not saying it's
not a bad idea. I'm just saying in the
context of this project, no, if there
were a public washroom, then I would
start pushing for access to
um that's all.
Thank you.
feedback that you've gotten from this
committee will be beneficial as well as
you move forward.
>> Absolutely. Thank you for your time.
>> Okay. So, with respect to this
discussion item, um could I have a
motion uh that the Riverside Park
accessibility features uh be endorsed?
Karen. Okay. All in favor?
Okay. Thank you very much.
So this will go forward that the above
recommendations that have been approved
by this committee will be presented to
the council through receipt of these
minutes um in accordance with the
committee's terms of reference. Any
advice or recommendation that requires
action or implementation by town staff
must be approved by town council and
unless separated from the minutes by a
motion from a council member, the
recommendations are acknowledged as
advice to council but not deemed as
formal directives to staff.
Okay. So, we have two um information
items uh that uh you've received
information on. So the first one is the
Ontario government consultation
advocating for stronger Ontario building
code accessibility requirements. So at
the end of July July 27th you would have
received um an email um that where we
were as a the committee the committee
members received an email and I believe
we had uh a week to give feedback. Uh so
that's the uh this item and the second
item is the Falerwood pool accessibility
funding. So game this committee members
we received an email on August 11th. My
understanding is that there's been
funding received of $125,000
um to improve access.
Okay. So that's the um um items. So does
anyone have any questions on uh on these
items?
Okay. And I will seek a motion uh that
the item and information items be
received.
And Karen and all in favor.
Okay. Thank you very much.
So those are our items on the agenda. Um
but before we adjourn, um I just wanted
to um take this opportunity. And I know
Andrea um wants to speak on behalf of
the town. Uh but certainly on behalf of
the the committee and the committee
members. Um we wanted to recognize and
thank uh councelor Giddings for um all
his sage advice and support of this
committee and we wish you well in your
next chapter. So thank you. And Andrea
has some words as well.
>> Great. Thank you Deborah. Um so as as
Deborah mentioned uh through you the
chair before we conclude today's meeting
I really did want to recognize that this
is the final meeting of the 2022 to 2026
accessibility advisory committee term
and we really just wanted to thank all
of the committee members uh for your
dedication your commitment and your
valuable contributions you've made over
the last four years. Your advice, your
insights, your advocacy has really
helped to make Oakville a more
accessible and inclusive community. Um,
and your volunteer service is sincerely
appreciated. Uh, sincere thanks to
Deborah uh for your leadership as chair.
Your guidance and commitment uh have
played an important role in the
community's success. Um, and as you
mentioned as well, we'd like to
recognize uh councelor Dave Giddings for
his service as the committee's council
representative. as councelor Giddings is
not seeking re-election. This marks the
conclusion of his time uh in this role.
And so councelor Giddings uh thank you
so much for your support of the
committee and your commitment uh to
accessibility throughout this throughout
your service. And on behalf of the town,
thank you all for your contributions and
your positive uh the positive impact
you've made over this term. It really
truly has been a pleasure working with
you all. So, thank you.
>> Thank you, Andrea. And uh thank you to
all the support that we have received
from the staff as well. I don't think we
could have got through this without you.
So thank you. We recognize that as well.
So um just before we adjourn um there
the next meeting just so you know it
won't be uh a December meeting. The next
meeting is going to be held um in
January. Uh correct Lisa that is when
the next meeting is going to be.
January 20.
Let's get the date right on that.
23rd. Oh, yeah. January uh 23rd uh 2027.
That will be the next meeting. Um so I'd
like to have a motion that this meeting
be adjourned.
Okay. Karen again. Thank you.
All in favor? Thank you.
Okay, that's a wrap. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Recording stopped.