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Library Board Reviews Budget, Safety, New Branch - 15 Oct 26
Oakville · October 17, 2026
Is anybody else as excited as I?
>> Uh, good evening. Calling uh, this
meeting of the Oakville Public Library
Board into session for Thursday, October
15, 2026.
Uh, first I will read our territory
acknowledgements. Oakville public
library is situated on the treaty number
14 and treaty number 22 treaty lands and
territory of the missagas of the credit
first nation and the traditional
territory of the hir wendat and the
hodnosoni. Oakville is currently home to
many different first nations inuit and
matei peoples. Regardless of where we
come from we are all interconnected
through the land that we live on, water
that we use and the air that we breathe.
We are committed to a continuous
learning journey and allyship. We seek
to elevate indigenous voices and lived
experience to cultivate reconciliation
in Oakville.
Uh madame committee clerk, do we have
regrets this evening?
>> Hi. Yes, chair null is regrets.
>> Thank you. I will be your chair for this
evening. My name is Andrew. Thank you
for joining us. Anyone on the live
stream and of course uh people here in
the chamber. Uh members of the board, do
we have any declarations of pecuniary
interest?
Okay, seeing none. All right. So that
was items 1, two, and three on our
agenda. Item four, 4.1 specifically, is
confirmation of the minutes of the uh
previous meeting of September 17th,
2026. Uh does anyone wish to move that
Rebecca? Thank you. Seconded by Rod. Uh
are there any questions or concerns?
Okay, seeing none, I'll call the
question. Uh all in favor, that's
carried. Thank you.
All right, we have three items on the
cons consent agenda. Uh 5.1, the
Oakville uh public library board key
agenda items report, 5.2, the health
health and safety report, and 5.3
uh the employee retention and turnover
metrics report.
Uh Rod,
>> sorry, Ray.
>> George, thank you.
>> Oh, it's [laughter] uh just move all
three.
>> You move all three. Thank you. Seconded
by Meredith. No,
>> you'd like to separate one. Which one?
>> Um, can I separate 5.1 and 5.2?
>> Separate 5.1 and 5.2. Okay. Does anyone
wish to separate 5.3?
>> Okay. So, Ray, counselor,
>> sorry,
>> you have a question on 5.3. Okay. So,
we're going to talk about
>> 52.
>> 5.2.
>> Yes.
>> So, Ry Councelor Chisum, I'm sorry, has
uh moved item 5.3. Is there a second?
Rebecca again. Thank you. All in favor?
Okay, that's carried. All right. Uh 5.1.
>> Okay, super quick question on 5.1, which
is that um on the schedule it shows that
we I believe we were to be approving a
budget, but I didn't see any um items
related to that in our package. So, I
just wanted to check about that.
>> The approval of the budget will come
between now
and
December 10th. It may be at December
10th. It's I think you know it it's
until we have the election and we know
what our council looks like and what our
mayor looks like, it's hard to predict
what the budget schedule is going to be.
Um but whenever we get a clear budget
schedule, a a budget for approval will
come to the board before it goes to
council.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Um are there any other questions on uh
5.1?
Okay. Okay, seeing none, Meredith, would
you like to move um uh that
confirmation, please? To receive
receipt, sir. Okay, so move. Do we have
a seconder? Uh thank you, uh Avis. Um
call for any other questions. No. All in
favor? That's carried.
Okay. Uh 5.2 health and safety report.
Uh you also had a question on that.
Okay. Go ahead.
>> Is so just just wanted to comment. So
obviously seeing um it you know
exponentially increasing, right? It's um
gone up over the last year, 43% over the
last year and then 186 over the last two
years. And I just wanted to confirm is
this do you think because the staff
there is more accidents or or injuries
or is it because um the staff is more
conscientious about reporting upwards?
>> I think it's both. Um, we've definitely
put a focus on making sure that anytime
somebody requires a band-aid or any type
of first aid that it is recorded. Um, I
also think that we've seen an increase,
you know, the opening of 16 Mile led to
quite a few. Um, that it' be interesting
to see what next year kind of does
because moving into a new a new branch
with the boxes and and the shelving. Um,
a lot of it is also just just adapting.
Um, it's it's a lot of like
a toaster oven sent a shock. Um, or
somebody cut their finger on a piece of
plexiglass or somebody um hurt their
foot with the uh the cart. Right. There
there doesn't seem to be a trend, but as
each comes up, we we are addressing and
taking a look at it.
>> Okay. And the joint health and safety
committee is in re reviewing those to
make them. Okay. And then my last
question was there was a note that 60%
of them were required minor first aid.
So I was just wondering if you could
just comment about what the other 40%
were.
>> Can I get back to you with that? I'd
like to make sure that I have that
information correct. Yeah.
>> Good. Okay. Bill, please.
Going along with that, I was just
wondering of the five or whatever it was
in September, were any of them other
than the 60% like were there anything of
note or is it just your your basic uh
>> Those are all basic first aid.
>> Okay. All right. Just wondered. Thanks.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um I just uh want to
clarify if possible. So there were five
instance to report for the month of
September.
The total for 2026 is 20 thus far.
Is that correct? Like year to date from
January 1st to end of September.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Uh so what was the total for Q3?
Do we have that?
This was as of September, the end of
September.
>> Yeah.
>> So that would be included, September.
>> Q3. Yeah.
>> Yeah. But Q3 is included in the total.
Is there
just because five is a lot for one
month. I just I'm just trying to put it
in relative terms where July and August
relatively quiet. I don't I don't I we
could go back and look at previous
reports.
>> I'd have to look at previous reports to
track that down. I can I can follow that
up with with the email again.
>> Yeah, I was just curious if that was
handy, but um Okay, it seems like
nothing stuck out as again a lot of them
are minor issues, minor first aid, so uh
that's good to hear. Uh any other
questions on 5.2?
No. Okay, Bill, would you like to move
that?
>> Sure,
>> please. Do we have a seconder? Meredith.
Thank you. All in favor? That's carried.
And that was receipt just for
clarification.
Thank you. Um we have no confidential
consent items. Uh we have several
discussion items. Uh so first is 7.1
which is the financial services service
level agreement.
>> Yeah. So 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3. I put them in
individual reports but you may have
noticed some similarities in in the
background. Um, so these are the service
level agreements that were updated as a
result of updating the memorandum of
understanding that the board approved in
August and council approved in
September. Um, so we took the
opportunity to to review um we're
reviewing all the SLAs. We're bringing
them to you in chunks. Some some of them
are still uh in the works um to really
look at are they still representative of
past practice? Um are they still working
for both sides? Do they need to be
tweaked? Are there air tweaked? are
there gaps that we've noticed over the
past couple um years while we've worked
through it um and then adapted it and so
what you have before you um the first
one is the financial services um tried
to create a chart that really um stay I
indicated what stays the same with
change none of the ones that I'm
bringing to you today have substantial
updates to them it is really let's
update the language let's um try and
like flush them out a little bit but
fundamentally the overall services and
service levels between um the two groups
remains the
Uh thank you. Um members of the board,
uh these are listed as individual items,
7.1, 7.2, 7.3. Um I suggest that we
entertain all of them at once if that if
uh I can get the board's indulgence on
that. Seeing no disscent, I'll ask if
there are any questions on any of the
items 7.1, 7.2, or 7.3. Okay, let's
start on this side. Uh Selo first.
>> Yes. Yeah. And a question applies to all
three. So um typically when I review SLA
agreements such as these um it contains
a description of the services which this
these uh do in in very great detail but
also it talks about uh typically it
talks about um the speed in which those
services are going to be performed and
what happens if that's missed. I I
didn't see that in any of the and maybe
maybe this is just education for me.
>> Yeah.
>> Is that not typical in in agreements
with the town? Um it it it is I would
say that these three um
don't necessarily have the same
requirement that you will see for like
facilities and IT where we do have more
clear escalation timelines for for
tickets and in facilities and IT. That's
one of the reasons that that will come a
little bit later. That's taking a lot of
time for us to kind of go through and
review with them. Um these ones uh less
so. Um and and really we we've we've
we've
there is no like with both IT and with
facilities they have a ticketing system,
right? So it's easy kind of like like
track responses and and escalate. That's
not how these are departments
um function.
>> Yeah. I think about legal for example,
right? So, if you have a a legal
situation that you need some help with,
do you know how soon you can
>> get that service in place?
>> We've never had a problem. It's it's
generally if I need David, I can have
David same day. Um or if I need Doug,
there there is a whole team of them. Um
and the majority of them are full-time
and and pretty much I won't say um Doug
may not appreciate me saying at my
disposal. Um but it does it does feel
that way um with them. in these three
departments, we've never had any issues
with with delays. Um it is it is whether
that's with the director, the manager,
or the individual um representatives
like like like Lisa working for the
clerk's office, they've always been
responsive. We've never seen the need
for that the same way we do with
>> um it and um facilities particularly
because there is more of a public facing
impact for for them. Um,
>> so I guess there's a sense of past
practice being good in in absence of the
agreement we're just taking.
>> Um, okay. Yeah, thank you.
>> Thank you so
>> Andrew. Um, I think I have three
questions Tara on this on the financial
services one. Um
just a question about uh in the first
part general agreement uh second uh
bullet
it spells out a whole bunch of financial
services and it also includes I notice
uh human resources and I just wondered
if there was anotherou for human
resources for you because I know you
work with uh
an individual or two at the town on that
or is or is there a reason why human
resour resources is here and and then
later on throughout the document it
doesn't really come up spelling out what
what the services are.
>> Can you remind me where that where that
is?
>> Sure. Um in the schedule A financial
services service level agreement uh part
one now therefore the library and town
hereby state as follows. And then you've
got general agreement and then the
second bullet down yeah
>> the town will provide a complete suite
of professional financial services. It
lists a whole bunch which are clearly
financial services and it goes on to
include um
human resources. Now I can't see it.
Yes, here it is. Accounting human
resources and I'm just wondering why
it's in the document if if well let's
start there. Why is why is it mentioned
there but yet it's not spelled out later
on down
in detail like the other ones are.
>> Yeah. So like we can speak to that and I
I think um to flesh it out what what
what that's referring to is actually the
the software. Um and so the library
actually has its independent human
resources department. Um Trisha works
very closely with the town. She she sits
on on their on their group teams, but
fundamentally we have our own human
resources. However, we do operate
through the town's human resources
systems um including the financial
system, the payroll system, um the
recruitment systems. So that's what
that's referring to is that the the
professional financial services
including account and human resources. I
can look to maybe flush that out to make
that clear. That isn't necessarily
staffing resources. It's it's more like
um um platform services, but I can tweak
that.
>> Thank you. Yeah, I think fleshing it out
just a little bit would clarify it for
when we we vote on it at the next
meeting. Um the next question I have is
on in the same section. Uh now the
fourth bullet down it says um the
library adopts and so on. The second
sentence in cases where deviations occur
and I'd prefer it to say um in cases
where differences occur the library will
clearly identify the differences. The
reason for that is I know deviations is
used in a number of ways as a as a term.
For example, in statistics, you have
standard deviations. But when it's in a
general sense, it sounds almost a
negative way. Um, I think it would be
better just to say in cases where
differences occur, the library will
clearly identify the differences because
this board does have a right to have
different policies from the the town and
I think u differences would be more
positive than deviations.
>> And my last question is very general.
All of these uh agreements uh service
level agreements do any of them the
three we're looking at today or others
do they involve chargebacks or are they
basically a sort of friendly agreements
where services are provided because
there's expertise at the town the
library can take advantage of. Um so
these three do not have chargebacks,
right?
>> Um there are um parks and open space
does have a chargeback um for the work
that they do um for the branches that
they support. Um and
Fleet has a chargeback where they do
work, right? Right. So, if we bring the
vehicle in and they perform maintenance
on it, we get charged for the cost of
that maintenance and that's how it
operate the same for whether or not
you're the library or or you're a
different department. Um, those are the
only
two that have chargebacks facilities to
a certain degree um in order to to have
that that support and and you'll see
that when that comes through um that SLA
those SLAs's will have that in there,
but those
three I guess is the definition of
chargeback because I wouldn't say it as
chargebacks either. um it wouldn't and
I'm not sure I would classify facilities
either really um but uh parks we do and
uh fleet we does but it generally
represents the work and and the output
that they do outside of their department
if that makes sense right it's like cost
recovery straight
>> okay thank you very much
>> uh thank you Rod I appreciate that Avis
>> so I'm just gonna my my questions are
focused on uh the financial services
because that's kind of the the world I
live in and um I think it's really quite
thorough. So, some of this might be just
nitpicking, but uh with regards to the
systems, which are shared systems,
right? I I think there's like a a
comment under accounts payable around
approval hierarchy, but I didn't see
some reference to let's say permissions.
So, like who who decides like in terms
of roles and responsibilities, I imagine
the library is deciding who within the
library staff has access to all of the
various
>> system modules that you're using. And so
I imagine you're saying so and so gets
this access and this person gets that.
But but it it I just didn't see it
addressed in this person.
>> The library provides direction on on on
which staff get access to what
>> to which module. So so if someone's
using I mean I'm just
believing that the accounts payable is
probably an automated workflow. Right.
So Right. Yeah. So in this case it's
saying um that the library is
accountable for sharing the approval
hierarchy but there may be other things
for example I don't know like well it
doesn't specifically talk about purchase
orders but other aspects of the
financial system maybe your team is
looking at financial reports or
something of that nature
who sets out who has the the library
staff that like what access they of
so I'm just trying to to to to make sure
I understand the question. So um well as
is indicated like we provide who has
approvals and access I think we maybe we
just need to flush it out right maybe
approval is not the right word. Yeah,
approvals to me is different than
access. The person that's approving it
has access,
>> but then there probably are other people
that have access to things to to view
>> to like to review. I I would say anybody
well anybody who has access does have
some degree of approval um because it's
normally like supervisors and up right
and so there is payroll for example like
supervisor managers kind so there is an
approval process in there so I would say
>> now they can't approve OUS up to a
certain point that goes up to like the
directors and myself so that that
hierarchy
>> so maybe it's just
because there's something about approval
embedded in account
>> maybe I'll just make it a bit broader
than than approval that
>> that's right
And again, this this um point is
not terribly
earthshattering, but it just I was
curious around it was a point around the
deposits like they call it revenue, but
and there was a differentiation between
two kinds of funds being deposited and
the process around them.
And although it said so it talks about
the library sending revenue
to the town's revenue services and it
going to whichever the appropriate bank
account was and then the second bullet
down so this was on on the PDF it's like
section well it's under section seven of
the financial services and it would be
the third the third and fourth bullet.
So, I'm just not sure what the
difference is between those two bullets,
except for the fact it's going to a
different bank account. And the third
bullet already says they'll be these
funds will be deposited into the
relevant library account.
Yes. So, I think the first one speaks
specifically to the to um the cash that
um gets spent at the branches and and
how that gets brought in. So, um you
know, people will pay their less fines
um or I guess we don't really charge
fines anymore, but different fees and so
um they do their their float balancing
at the end of the night and then there's
there's they put that cash and and and
deposit bags and that speaks to that
that process. Um and finance wanted that
as a separate piece because the way it's
handled is a little bit differently. Um
and then uh the second one
is is is dealing with um things like uh
the book sale and so that that is
handled slightly separately. So they
wanted the nuance.
>> Um I ask if Commissioner Damaso has
input at this point
>> just really quickly an answer to your
question. So, one speaks specifically to
general revenues. The other speaks to
fundraising revenues and they are
managed differently and that's why
they're itemized differently within the
service agreement. It's really just
semantics in terms of the types of
revenue that the library library
generates and how we process them.
>> Thank you. Um,
>> and the third bullet I think just speaks
to more like the the timeline. So,
you're right, we could take the third
bullet and then wrap it into the other
two.
>> Yeah.
Okay. Like it to me this the it wasn't
really clear that the processes were all
that different. I get the sense that
they're different sources of revenue.
That was clear to me. But the fact it it
didn't feel all that different to me,
but clearly, you know, [laughter] it
matters more to the finance team than it
does to me. So, thank you.
>> Thank you, Avis. Uh are there other
questions or comments from board
members?
I have a question. Um, did you retain
outside legal counsel to review these
SLAs's?
>> We did not.
>> We did for theou.
>> Okay. I ask the board if they feel um
comfortable with proceeding with the
SLAs's as they are. If they wish to um
direct staff to obtain outside legal
counsel to review everything
>> good given the fact that they haven't
changed much from what they were before,
I don't think it's necessary. appreciate
that. Okay, seems to be consensus on
that. So, um I'll ask for a motion to um
this is this is receipt because this was
the feedback discussion. So, receipt of
7.1, 7.2, and 7.3.
Rod, thank you. Seconded by Avis. All in
favor? That's carried. Thank you.
All right. 7.4. Exciting. 16 milei
branch, six-month impact report. We're
so every time I go in there, it's just
packed. Absolutely packed. Yeah.
>> No, it's it's
>> Tell us tell us more.
>> It's been really um solid. I didn't
actually ask whether Caitlyn wanted to
speak to it,
>> but I think she should.
>> Yeah. Surprise.
Yes. uh we are very happy to bring
forward uh a six-month update for you.
As you can see in the report, it does
focus right now on uh observations,
impacts. We will be bringing a full um
overview of all the performance and
measures in the Q3 uh report. So you'll
see the detailed metrics for 16 mile at
that time.
Um so 16 mile open on March 31st. Um
since that time, one of the key
takeaways is that the branch is really
serving as a community destination for
us. Um commu customers are routinely
spending their day there for work,
study, meetings, and family activities.
They're staying for extended periods of
time. They get there early. They know
their favorite spots. Um there's lots of
gathering spaces. the meeting rooms are
in constant demand um for meetings,
study groups, tutoring. Uh
[clears throat] so we know that the the
full space is very well used. We also
see that uh families and children are
playing a key role in shaping the branch
activity as well. Uh the children's
collections have experienced strong
circulation. Uh and the children's
discovery zone is has become a very
popular branch feature. Uh you'll note
that um between August and September we
ran seven weekly activations. We
received 276 participant responses which
is really great because children don't
always uh want to fill out the surveys.
Um but it's fun. It's interactive. It's
dots and stickers. Um and overall we
have a positive satisfaction rating
right now of 87.5%.
Um that was one of our board goals as
well to really um track how well the
activations are encouraging um hands-on
learning experiences within the space.
Um we also see that those spaces in the
collections are highly connected. Um
we're seeing improved um circulation in
children's non-fiction titles where
they're connected or featured in the
discovery zone. Um,
additionally, um, we're also seeing how
our traditional measures of circulation,
visits, program attendance isn't telling
the full story of how our spaces and our
services get used. Um, so we are seeing
the value of the branch and in creating
a welcoming public space um, for the
community. Uh [clears throat]
the observations to date have really led
to um some operational adjustments in
how we offer programming, some of the
layouts and seating arrangements,
looking at making some of those tweaks
to better meet customer user um
suggestions or how they're using the
space. Um we're working to um make some
improvements to the way that collections
are shelved or the way finding through
the space just to help the community
navigate the two floors. Um so for us
looking ahead the next six months will
really focus on um understanding
community reach we did originally
anticipate that 16 mile would take some
of the pressure from Glen Abbey and we
aren't really seeing that. So we need to
dig further into you know who is using
the 16 mile branch and how many uh
families and community members from that
area are using 16 mile. Um so to better
understand how that area is is really um
engaging with 60 mile or some of our
other branches.
Um we're continuing to assess um the
impact of the creation spaces as well.
Um April to August our focus was really
on equipment setup. Um the board may
remember that we did not have access to
the space um as early as we anticipated
and much of the equipment wasn't able to
come out while construction was ongoing
with debris and dust. So, April to
August has really focused on equipment
setup and configuration,
safety procedures, user instruction
manuals for customers, um, setting up
equipment bookings, program planning,
uh, [clears throat]
and we've launched programming in the
space as well. And then October onwards,
we're really starting to focus on the
full launch of the creation spaces. So,
happy to take any questions.
>> Thank you, Caitlin. Uh do we have
questions from board members?
>> Slo
comment and a question. Um comment is
the timing of this is is great because
this is suggesting to me that the space
it's almost like um at a higher priority
than collections not one or the other
but like to your point it's like
integrating well but uh something about
I well that's the question is there
something special about 16 mile that we
don't see everywhere else where whereas
space now is at um at a higher u premium
to our customers versus collections.
>> We're certainly seeing that as as part
of our service strategy and and looking
at how the community is using our space.
We know that um the way people work has
changed, the way people live has
changed, and so space is is increasingly
becoming one of our key community
assets. Um 16 Mile in particular, I
mean, it's new, it's exciting, it's got
vated ceilings, the big glass windows.
When we designed the space, we really
did focus in on a lot of seating, the
additional meeting rooms. It has three
meeting rooms. It has lovely um spots to
read. We have benet seating for study.
So, we do have more featured um seating
that that really encourages people to
come and stay. It's not the same come
in, pick up your hold, attend a program,
and leave. That the space has really
been designed to help meet that that
demand. So it sounds like it's the
design is what caused what we're seeing,
which is a good thing, right? Uh and
maybe that's an important consideration
for the strategy meeting that we're
about to have.
>> No, I was going to say you should
definitely keep that uh on top of mind
for uh Saturday. Um and also the the
board may remember that we have brought
in previous CEO updates some some
updates to spaces we've been making at
at the branches. We we did an update to
to White Oaks on the upper floor. Um so
uh it it was great because 60-mi we got
to design it straight out right from
scratch. Um but those principles we have
started to make adjustments in our
existing spaces. We're just sometimes
limited by that. Glenn Aby's a really
great example too. um that that front
kind of atrium. People love that. And I
know that that they recently we added in
um a bunch of snake plants. Um and we've
changed up the seating. And I know
Caitlyn's been working on if if you
follow the in our capital budgets, we we
do have a capital budget for furniture
and really looking at um a a change in
in how we actually are purchasing
furniture in order to encourage um that
kind of experience that that people are
coming to expect and look for in in all
our branches. M one last question also
in the context of the strategy.
>> Do you feel there's something about the
location meaning in a sports complex
large community space
>> does that drive a different behavior as
well or not so much?
>> I'm for 60 mile in particular with the
recreation center only recently starting
their their registered programs. We're
waiting to see how that might um shift
some of the ways that we see customers
using the space as the arenas have more
tournaments. We're expecting to be able
to to see some patterns through that. Um
but across all of our measures, we do
find that library branches colllocated
with a a larger community center creates
that destination for people. Um so they
they do tend to be um higher usage in
terms of people visiting, materials
being borrowed, programs being attended.
>> Excellent. The timing couldn't be better
for this report. Thank you very much.
>> Um I'm just going to jump in before
recognizing other board members just to
build on uh SSO's question there. Um
just in the report it does say you know
for example staff uh sorry scrolling
staff regularly observe customers
arriving and proceeding directly to
seating areas etc. Um there is a mention
further down of of doing further
analysis on how people are using the
space. I I'd encourage you to actually
walk up and ask them. um maybe we could
put a little more rigor around it in
terms of just a couple of quick
questions, but to provide some uh
qualitative qualitative insights um as
opposed to simply staff observation
because I'd be very interested in
knowing what their intentions and um
perspectives are as they use the spaces.
Yeah. Thank you. Um Rebecca,
>> okay, Rebecca yields her time to
Meredith. Please go ahead. [laughter]
>> Thank you. Well, thank thank you Kaylin.
You actually answered several of my
questions in your report. So, I
appreciate all of the information that
you shared. And um I also uh I am
looking forward to the analytics to see
the numbers of of how many room pickings
and how long people are staying and and
what you know services they're using.
Um, but I I want I'm also interested in
um like who's coming and I was curious
if like even for like signouts if you
can connect that back to home postal
codes to kind of understand who's using
it and taking things out because I am
also Yeah. I'm also curious is it is it
about the location and the neighborhood
that it's next to or is it about you
know families who were there for hockey
practice and swimming lessons that are
using it? Um and so wondering if if that
kind of connecting to the postal code
could help us to understand who's
visiting.
>> Yeah. And that'll that'll be our next
step. We we have in the past um for the
whole library system done heat mapping
using postal codes. Um it is as you've
pointed out primarily people who use
collections not necessarily people who
are coming into the space or doing a
program because they don't require a
card but we we do have that that that
card. And so, um, that was something
that we were talking about, particularly
related to 16 Mile because again, like
we we we were slightly surprised, um,
that Glenn Abbey hasn't gone down at
all, which means that 16 miles is
drawing new. Um, but also I think speaks
to understanding, okay, well, but who's
coming because W seven is growing
rapidly. Um so are there are there like
gaps in there too and then should we be
doing we wanted the branch six months to
settle um and then you know start to do
maybe some targeting um like mail
campaigns or or or to kind of identify
that. So all that to say that that yeah
that is our next step is is to start
pulling um that that borrowing data and
then um partnering uh with the town's
GIS department in order to overlay and
create heat maps. Yeah, that's because
especially because I think also this
board in the past have had a lot of
conversations about specific
neighborhoods and which neighbors are
serviced and underser. I think it'd be
really interesting to know is it the
neighborhood that's using it or is it
basically people who just happen to find
themselves at that sports complex where
hockey practices and they're coming.
Yeah.
>> And if that should be more, you know,
rather than making assumptions and to
understand maybe the actual location,
you know, neighborhood wise versus
colllocating with services is more more
of a priority.
>> Yep.
Thank you very Rebecca.
>> Um I know this report was really around
the space itself but I I think it was
last meeting or the meeting before we
talked about like new card growth as
well. And I think you had mentioned that
a lot of the new card growth was coming
from 16 miles. So, I think it's really
cool to also understand that yes,
they're coming to use the space and even
though they don't need a card maybe to
access a lot of those things, they still
are getting cards and I think you'll be
able to see a lot of information from
those new card members as well. Ages,
uh, postal codes. Yes. But, and I don't
know what other data you kind of collect
at that if it's like age groups and
things like that, but I think we'll get
a lot of information from there too.
>> That's it.
>> Lovely. Thank you. Uh, any other
comments or questions from the board?
Bill,
>> I was um intrigued with this feedback
model idea and 275
276 responses. Um I'm trying to picture
this this uh little machine or whatever
it is. Is it the same ones you might see
at the airport washroom?
>> Okay, so you you you all laugh, but
that's what I wanted because I I wanted
that, but we couldn't get it because it
involved software. Um, but so I think
we're just doing stickers,
>> like a piece of paper and stickers.
>> Okay.
>> I'm just I was just kind of amazed that
there would be 34 people that thought it
was low. And I I just wondered if if the
kids are really too young to figure out
what they're doing. Maybe they don't
know what the heck they're doing.
>> Like maybe they couldn't reach the great
field or the good field. [laughter]
>> So it was low.
I can tell you that most of the lower
responses were related to one of our um
particular weeks and it just wasn't
enough um to really meet the
expectations of the children. It just
happened to be an activation that didn't
resonate with them. But the rest of the
activations got much higher scores.
>> So are kids being encouraged to rate the
Okay.
>> It's very visual based. It's you know
happy faces, sad faces, stickers.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> Thanks.
>> That's that's good to know. That's that
provides a lot more perspective on it.
Yeah. Thank you. Good. All right. Uh any
other comments, questions? Okay. Seeing
none, I'll ask if there is uh someone to
move receipt of this report
so seconded by Rebecca. All in favor?
That's carried. Thank you.
Okay. Moving on to 7.5 Q3 2026 OPL
goals. Tara.
>> Uh yeah. So, I did take some of the
feedback that the board provided with
the Q2 report and added more detail,
including a yellow, green, and red
system um in order to provide a bit more
um visual about where where those where
those projects are. Um and so I am going
to take the the time to go through at
least um a couple of them. Um one is uh
New Central. So, new central um we are
in design development. Um we are
expected to be done um November 4th when
I wrote this report. I think that may
shift a little bit. Um construction
documents were are technically uh to
start in late 2026 with an estimated
completion of Q2 2027. So that is a
little bit of of a shift to that that
goal um of having all that uh
um the construction documents done by
the end of the year. That that isn't
going to happen. Um and so but we do
expect design development um to be done
and then it is just the creation of the
construction documents. Um some of that
does relate to um uh the board will
remember uh in September um the decision
to to try and do something with the
basement um which wasn't in the original
scope of the project because the
basement was supposed to be the parking
lot um however in the absence of a
parking lot where we were just supposed
to ignore that the basement was there.
it didn't make a lot of sense. And so,
um, the board saw that that we have put
in, um, quiet study spaces and and in
that pieces. And so, that does mean that
the scope of that project has shifted.
Um, and it likely means that we will
have to go back to council um, as part
of their financial control policy um
because that scope has moved from
approximately 47,000 square feet to
55,000 square feet and we are required
uh to go back and do that. So, that that
is also playing with the timelines a
little bit. Um, but overall there I have
no concerns with the project um and
about where where we are. These are
things that you have to expect when
you're when you're building a building
of this size. Um, and we're continuing
to to work closely with with facilities
and and planning to move things forward.
Um, and the other thing I wanted to just
touch uh briefly on in here before I
turn it over to you for questions. Um
although I think uh it was going to be
about about the um activations because
Meredith you asked a question
particularly activations. So that was
answered for the most part in um
Caitlyn's piece. Um but I just did want
to flag that um the goal we spoke to a
certain um
uh rating system and then I just wanted
to highlight that we adjusted that
rating system and actually to make it
more accessible to kids because I think
we we originally had um a system that
was very good or higher. So, it was like
very good, good. Um, and then we
actually moved it to something that kids
identified for a little bit more. So, we
went from like a five-point system to a
three-point system. Um, but we did talk
about that, but that's just that shift
from what we envisioned with the goal
versus what we actually put in place to
make it more accessible to get the kids
responses, not necessarily just the
parents responses. Um, but happy to take
questions on anything else. I think
those were the only things um
that I wanted to highlight. I guess
other than um the one about the the
implement the executive connect
communication um in that
uh Q2 we have started to implement it
but we have run into um as indicated a
number of struggles with um our outlook
and and and the understanding that I I
don't and this I take full blame for
this that I just assumed that if I I
clicked the button that would track it
that it would keep it but it only gives
you you have to like check it after a
week and that data disappears and I
didn't realize that and so we have no
data for for for the first two
newsletters. I take full responsibility
for that. I should have read the fine
print. Um however um when the new one
goes out in November, I know this now.
Um and we are looking at alternative um
platforms in order to push that out.
That way we can get open rates a little
bit better. Um and then we also print it
out and put it in staff rooms because I
do think staff get a lot of email. it
can sometimes get lost. Um how do we
make it just a bit easier that you're
grabbing a snack or a lunch that you can
just read it? And so it's hard for us to
track that. So anyway, I just wanted to
flag I I marked that as yellow because
um it is a little bit of a challenge
versus the goal and how it's actually
been executed. Um so just wanted to to
flag those.
>> Thank you. Um [clears throat]
thank you for adding the uh the goal
status green yellow red. I I mean we
could also look at happy face, neutral
face, sad face.
>> Yeah, [laughter]
>> if that works. Um, thank you. That's uh
very thorough. Any questions or comments
from board members?
>> So, sorry.
>> Was that a duck? Was that duck a duck
call?
>> Duck call.
>> I'm having memories of Yeah, Super
Mario. Sorry. NES duck hunt. Um, okay.
Councelor Chisum apparently had to
leave, but we still have quorum. So,
we'll continue. Uh, seeing no questions
or comments, I'll ask for a motion to
receive um the OPL goals report. 7.5
AIS, seconded by Meredith. All in favor?
That's carried. Thank you.
>> All right. 7.6 CEO update.
>> Okay.
All right.
Uh, we just talked about new central. Um
so I will say other than what's in the
report and I will update this to yellow
to match um is that we did uh as
indicated in September um we did put in
for initial site plan they have come
back with some comments. So we are
continuing to work with them about uh
just some of the comments that they have
about the space um and the design. So
some tweaking may happen um but we'll
bring that back to the board uh once we
have that a bit more clarified.
um service strategy update. Just a
reminder um that I'm hoping to see seven
of you bright and well I guess it's not
overly bright and early at 10 uh am at
Woodside Woodside um on Saturday. Um
we've got a really great uh Nordic
Nordic city has a really great session
planned um and I think um some of the
discussion that we had tonight. I would
also remind you that there is a
pre-eread package um for you guys to
read in advance. It is very similar to
the reports that were sent out but um is
a bit contained. So please do do that.
Um the newspaper digitization project is
slowly coming to an end. Um so there
have been a significant number of um
images uh that have been digitized over
the past year or so. Um but the final
round of data cleanup and linking is to
be completed and everything everything
should wrap up in early 2027.
um in terms of the digitization is all
complete and that is just moving it into
um the public sphere.
Uh so it is public library week next
week. Uh the board hopefully did receive
the invitation to our first ever flag
raising at town hall on Monday at 10
a.m. Um so uh if you are available uh
we'd love to see you out. Um this year's
theme um as decided by the Ontario
Library Association is loud for
libraries um and is really encouraging
um the library lovers and communities to
be vocal about their support and why
they love libraries. Um they have
provided us with a number of different
activities to to run in the branch which
will happen next week. Um so there'll be
a lot of things um going on at all the
branches um from October 18th uh to
24th.
a lot of sticker based things. Stickers
are popular. Um also we're very excited
to participate um with the other GTA
libraries in a go transit uh marketing
campaign called one card endless
stories. Um so it just raises awareness
of library service and promotes library
um signups. Um so it's running it
started running um at the uh end of
September and runs to the end of this
month um and uh is um in approximately a
thousand um go transit train cars um
across the full transit system. Um we
actually had conversations about this
years ago and we were just going to do
the Lakes Shore West. Um, so I'm glad to
see that that when it finally came to
fruition, that was the whole GO network
and it it's it's all the libraries um in
the entire GTA coming together, which I
think is fantastic. Um, and so just to
give you an idea of of of some of the um
I'm not sure if anybody's been on the go
train um and has seen these um but these
these are what's currently up in those
spaces.
Um so the Opal Ambassador so this is our
summer program um that we get funding
for from the federal government uh to
assist us in running um and it is really
meant to have the ambassadors um
provided uh added capacity for us to get
out and do more outreach events. There's
a lot of festivals and fairs and
different um um
yeah uh events throughout Oakville in
the summer which is amazing. Um and so
uh the ambassadors take a lot of the
lead in going out to really engage with
people. Um so at the events that that
that were at 88 events um they um hit uh
interacted with uh just under 6,000 um
and we saw some really great
um engagements and and community um
interactions with that. again just
reminding people um about the library uh
and uh hopefully um making connections
and facilitating them to come into our
branches.
Um and the last one is just the book
talk live event. So this is our annual
fundraising event. It is happening on
November 5th um from 6:00 to 9:00. Um
tickets are $40. Um and uh we have moved
to a new location. Anybody who came last
year we were at um the performing arts
center. Um this year we are at uh QEP
and the rehearsal hall. Um it's also
shifted a little bit. Um last year we
had representatives
um from different publishers and and and
it is still representatives from um a
distributor as well as publishers. Um
but we've we've focused it uh just a
little bit. But we're very excited um to
bring this event uh back to life for for
this this year. We're hoping to to grow
it and in hoping to build it into a a
signature event for us uh annually. Um
and that's
I'll happy to take questions.
Oh, um sorry. Um bear bear with me when
I didn't get a chance to make a slide,
but I did I did want to um the board
would remember in September um and it's
in it's in the report um that I just
came back from the um Canadian Urban
Library Council fall meeting. Um and so
I am going to send out Oh, I did
actually. Um in the in the report, um I
provided the valuing public libraries in
in in New Brunswick. I'm not sure if
anybody's had a chance to to read that,
but it is an amazing amazing initiative
and has done what public libraries have
been trying to do for decades. Um, and
that's um allow us to make very
clear um connections in between the
benefit of when um children all the way
up to to university age attend libraries
that their outcomes are higher. Um, and
it's a real challenge because we don't
get um school data. We we don't get
university data, but New Brunswick is a
provincial library system, not a
municipal library system. Um, and so um
as part of that that provincial lens um
New Brunswick also has a department
called NB data and and different areas
such as health um uh education are
required to submit data into it and then
universities have access to it. Um but
uh my understanding is that BC has a
similar um uh department that does that.
And so the BC libraries are now taking
the New Brunswick report and are hoping
to to do a similar thing out in BC which
then hopefully allow us to have two
reports that show similar things in
which case we would feel really
confident in in bringing some of that
that forward. Um not as far as I know
those are the only two provinces that
have a centralized system that allows
that. We have had conversations um with
with the Halton School Board about
potentially getting access. The
challenge is is a privacy issue, right?
And we completely understand and and so
there is growing conversations that if
we want to do it, that would have to be
done through um like a university
research and and and and just how to
facilitate that. But um if you haven't
had a chance to read it, I strongly
recommend it. It's really really
interesting.
um and the um determinations of you know
what if if you are a lower income family
um and you're you you go to the library
um you know one of the one of the
conclusions that it draws is that you
are more likely to make it into
secondyear university because most um
drop out after first year. Um, it also,
um, shows that, um, you know, um, higher
income families use the library the
most, which
would be what we experience here in
Oakville as well. Um, but what's
interesting is that even though the
lower income families don't use it as
much, um, which is definitely something
we should think about on Saturday, um,
those who do, their, um, end results
match them up to the higher income
families. So where the higher income
families are more like this, the lower
income families that use the library
come up and match them. Um and so I
think there's there's a lot of
interesting data there um for us to
potentially explore as as even part of
our service strategy even though it's
New Brunswick. Um I think we we've seen
this evidence um qualitatively like but
we we've been we've been unable to
actually prove it through data. So, the
fact that somebody's done some of this,
and what's more amazing is, as we talked
about earlier, it's only done through
card data, which means primarily
circulation and doesn't speak to people
coming into just our spaces um and
doesn't or our programs. And so, now I
know that that um Ellen Nason, who is uh
the executive director of the New
Brunswick um public library service, is
now looking into how to collect that
data, which will make this even more
wholesome. But if we're having this kind
of impact and it's just talking about
circulation, then then our actual impact
has to be more than that. Um anyway,
it's it's a really exciting study that
we're very very very happy is happening.
Um and I think um there's a lot of ways
for us to to build on that even if we
don't have full access to the same um
depth and breadth of data that that New
Brunswick does. So sorry.
>> Thank you, Tara. Um uh that sounds
absolutely wonderful. A lot of data
there. I'll I'll say that I personally
didn't receive the Valerian public
libraries in New Brunswick study. I did
see the cog strategic framework. Um was
that just me or
>> Oh, did I not send I Okay, I sent you
the the strategic plan. I will send you
the New Brunswick data study. I think I
me maybe I mentioned it.
>> Yeah. Value in public libraries. I did
mention mentioned okay it's very
exciting. I'll send it I'll send you
guys the
there's two. There's the there's the
study and then there's like the
executive summary. So, I'll start with
the executive summary and if anybody
wants the full one, I'm happy to send it
>> like a like a movie trailer and then
maybe we want to go see the whole movie.
>> Yeah, exactly. [laughter]
>> The trailer.
>> Members of the board, do we have any uh
comments or questions on the CEO update
>> so
>> about the loud for libraries? Is there
something we can do to be vocal on
social media and support the campaign
for
>> Yeah, I think we will have um out stuff
through social. Um so it would be really
great if you would just share um the the
social that comes out next week. Um and
even if if you um there is a a hashtag
and I think it's just hashtag loud for
libraries. um even speak to your own
experience and then just add to the
hashtag and just add to the hopefully um
plethora of of of voices that'll be out
there just speaking about what how the
libraries mean to them.
>> Thank you. Anyone else?
>> All right, SA, would you like to move
receipt of the CEO update?
>> I'm gonna see for Saturday. Okay.
Actually, I'm just gonna say
>> Rebecca
>> because when you talked about like
collecting all the data, I just read
today and tell me if this is true or
not, but the um but Hamilton public
libraries are going to start requiring
cards for access to some of the spaces
and programming that they have. And I
just wonder I can see how there would be
both good and bad sides to that. But
again, I can we can talk about that on
Saturday during the the strategy
session. But
>> I just think it's interesting where
there's good parts in see and getting
the data so that we know who's using
things but then also then an access and
equility kind of part.
>> I I will like just for for context that
as of October 13th um the central branch
only you are required to have a library
card. Um and that is a direct result of
drug usage that that happens within the
branch that that um increases as the
weather gets colder. Um and so um
previously they they implemented that
for three months over the winter um in
order to deal with the sheer number of
drug overdoses which were happening
daily in in their in their central
library. Um that was just overwhelming.
The public didn't want to come um staff
were were basically calling 911 multiple
times uh a day. Um and they did find
that requiring somebody to have a
library card to enter the full library.
anybody can come into the the the main
entrance and access um the the
computers, but in order to get access to
like the children's area and the full
library, they do are required um to have
a library card. There is a shift with
this new implementation. Um you do
require a library card, but you can take
two people in with you to try and make
it a bit more accessible. Um but it is
primarily the central branch only that
requires that. Um we can definitely
continue to talk about that because
there have been libraries Ottawa um I
don't know if they still do. I worked
there 15 years ago. Um but when I was
there 15 years ago, they had just moved
requiring um people to have a library
card in order to access programs. Um and
I really should follow up with that. The
challenge is is that in some ways it's
it's it's a barrier and and it's a it's
a bit of a challenging argument because
library cards are free. Um and so you
should be able to get a library card. Um
but it is surprising how many people
don't want to be registered. Um or it's
something else that they have to
remember and and it it can it's it's how
to kind of provide it and and and that's
just it. But we have been trying to
think of ways to how do we gather that
data without creating more friction and
access to our services. But it it is
definitely a conversation um that I
think we just we need to have.
>> So in the Hamilton example um is there
actually a uh like a gate control access
where they have to swipe in?
>> Uh my understand is that there's a
security guard um yes and they have to
scan their card because it has to be a
card in good standing as well.
>> Right. Okay. um from a like public
health perspective that it's maybe good
that you know if if someone did have an
emergency you you sort of you can
identify them if if there's no other way
to potentially um and also I mean I
guess you would know how many people are
in at any particular point in time if
there was an evacuation for some reason
but uh um I agree it's you know it's
obviously a complicated issue and I
think it would be further discussion if
uh you know if uh that comes up so thank
you uh any other questions Questions or
remarks? No. Okay. Seeing none, I will
ask for a motion to receive the CEO
update report. So, so seconded by Bill.
All in favor? That's carried. Thank you.
Okay. Uh number eight, uh 8.1. We have a
confidential discussion item. Um we
presuming everyone has had an
opportunity to read the confidential
agenda. Um,
we may not need to go into close
session, but I will ask at this time if
someone does wish to go into close
session to make that motion.
>> Um, not to go into into camera, but to
move the to move the report,
>> move the public recommendation.
>> Yeah.
>> Is there anyone else who wishes to go
into close session? Okay. I'll just read
that. Uh then the uh
the motion then would be the board
acknowledge receipt of the confidential
uh contractual matter report dated
October 15, 2026. That's moved by
councelor Chisum. Uh is there a second?
Bill. Um all in favor? Okay, that's
carried. Thank you. So we do not need to
go into close session. So that's uh item
eight.
Item nine, new business. Is there new
business to come before the board?
>> Mr. Chair, I have new business.
>> Okay. Um, sorry, I saw Rod first. Rod,
do you have new business?
>> Yes. Uh, but I don't know. Do I go
first? Okay. [laughter] Um,
>> you're cuter. You go first.
>> Oh, nobody.
>> I saw you first. [laughter]
>> Well, but thanks. Okay. So, now we
discussed this just prior to the meeting
starting. Can you give us a brief precy
on what is expected to happen with the
ending of this board's term and the
start of the next board's term with
regards to come the coming months ahead?
>> Um so we do expect the the current board
to exist up until the point where a new
board is appointed. Um we don't
currently have a timeline um on when
council will appoint the new board. We
are expecting it to be possibly January
or February. Um so it may be expected
that the board um continue to attend
meetings in January or February up until
that point. Um we will have more
information about that after the
election um once we have a clear picture
of what council looks like. Um I will
say that um uh the board will will
continue. Um I will send an email out.
We are expecting um applications for uh
the library board to go live between uh
sometime between now and the end of the
month. But once they do, um uh clerks
will likely uh send that out to you and
I will as well. Um for those of you
who've expressed interest in coming
back, we'd love to have you. Um and then
um what normally happens is is we we
take um a look at um any vacancies that
we have and and we take a look at the
the applications um and then we have a
board approved matrix um that as an
evaluation and then and then I send a
report to council with recommendations
and then council appoints as they see
fit. Um the only uh slight difference is
is that um as of uh October 26th um we
may not have council representation. Um
so there might be a slight gap. Um
however we are expecting um whoever is
the new mayor to appoint new counselors
to the library board on November on
November 30th
>> in November. Um and at which point we
may get new counselors before we get a
new board. That's just the kind of the
way it the way it works.
>> Yeah. And I'll just also say that seems
consistent with prior experience where
the um representatives of council have
been appointed fairly soon after the new
council term begins and then sometimes
there's been a slight delay before
community um uh members are appointed.
Um does that answer your
>> Okay. Thank you very much Andrew and
Tara. Thanks.
>> You're welcome.
Just just to add to that what happens it
is a discussion with the mayor and with
council members on what committees he'll
sit on. It's not arbitrarily
prescripted. Uh so there is discussion
because some counselors do do have
interest in in specific uh committees.
So uh stay tuned.
>> There's yeah there's a variety of
committees and there people feel strong
quite strongly about some of them.
Correct. So yeah understood. Thank you
councelor Chisum.
>> Uh did you also have other new business
for the board?
>> Yes and my apologies. Uh you probably
have on your desk uh some correspondence
that came through from a Mr. Pro um with
respect to the weight list program for
for parks uh for the parks access.
>> I will say speaking for myself, I'm
sorry to interrupt. I haven't had a
chance to review it, but are you going
to
>> well summarize?
>> Yeah, I'm going to summarize very
quickly. Um we're asking for I got mixed
feelings on this one. this is an
operational thing, but uh he's uh
insisting on coming to the uh the board
uh for a decision uh a change on the
weight list process or program. What I'm
suggesting that we get a report uh from
staff with respect to uh his his
comments, his suggestions and see if we
can improve our weight list program. So
um request a report to come forward at
the next in I guess the December
meetingth uh and and go from there um
with respect to the weight list uh uh
challenge.
>> Uh so I hope you have trust in me on
this one. Um like I said I have mixed
feelings. This is an operational thing
but uh he wants to move this to the uh
the governance table. So that's that's
my uh request for report. I I I would
need a seconder for that. Um, sorry,
before we before we do that, I um
because I haven't had a chance to to
read this thoroughly and I appreciate
the the very brief summary. Um, have
other members had a chance to review the
correspondence
>> largely? Is there anyone who hasn't
aside from me?
>> No. Okay. You
>> No.
>> Okay. Because we could certainly adjourn
for a few minutes so people could just
review the correspondence. But
>> it's up to you, Mr. Chair, but it's it's
an operational thing. I Yeah. No, I I
respect that. So, so the motion uh from
councelor Chism would be to um request a
report from staff addressing the
concerns highlighted in this
correspondence.
>> Correct.
>> Uh is that would that be a properly
ordered cons constituted motion? Good.
Okay. Is there a second for that motion?
Thank you, councelor Chisum. Seconded by
Bill. Uh any other questions or
concerns?
>> Can I see?
>> Go ahead, Rebecca. Yeah.
um totally support having this staff uh
report. Also just appreciate your
comments back, Caitlyn. Um I think the
full, you know, explanation of
everything was really in here. I I
really appreciated that and I I don't
imagine that we'll see any more
information, but awesome to have it in a
report and to make sure that he knows
that we're taking it seriously. For
sure.
>> I'm remiss to Rebecca for not uh um with
staff following up on this. uh it was
well well documented and well reported
but again it's um something that we I
think it's another a second a second
process that has to go up for us to go
through to to alleviate any concerns.
Thank you.
>> Thank you. Any other comments or
questions from the board? Um madam
committee clerk could you reread the
motion please for my benefit?
>> Yes. a request um that the board
requests a report from staff to bring a
parks pass I guess parks pass report to
the December meeting for board
discussion.
>> Um I would be specific in calling it the
weight list and that's really what the
the the center of issue is. Thank you.
It's maybe the park
>> park pass weightless system
>> process process
>> process park pass weight
>> a request for staff to bring a report
addressing the park pass weightless
process
>> y
>> to the board. Excellent. Moved by
councelor Chisum seconded by Bill. Last
opportunity for questions or comments.
Seeing none, I'll call the question. All
in favor? Oh, pardon me.
>> My apologies. I didn't what um just
>> just uh for uh the board's um
understanding and communication I will
follow up with Mr. Pro um that it has
gone to a report so he's he's kept in
the loop. Okay. So everybody's aware of
that. Thank you.
>> Uh okay. Yes. So since the um yes since
the constituent emailed you directly.
Yes. Um please let him know that action
is being taken. Um but uh uh as his
counselor not um not speaking for the
board.
>> Is that clear?
>> I would copy the board on this one. So
everybody's in
>> Oh, that's fine. Just Yeah, there's no
because no decision has been taken. So
just to clarify, it's it's under review.
Yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you.
>> Y
>> Okay,
>> for the third time, any other questions
or comments?
>> Sorry. Seeing none. All right. All in
favor of the motion? That's carried.
Thank you very much.
All right, that's number nine. Um, well,
maybe. Is there any other other new
business to come before the board this
evening? Okay, seeing none, [laughter]
date and time of next meeting, uh, is
Thursday, December 10th, uh, in the
council chamber at 7 p.m. here. And
finally, adjournment. Um, do I have a
motion to adjourn the meeting? So, so
seconded by Meredith. All in favor?
Thank you very much. Uh, it's been a
slice. Thank you to everyone watching.
Thank you uh to uh members of the OPL
staff for um the thorough preparation of
the reports. Thank you to the board
members for lively participation. See
you next time.