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"Board Tackles ACEs, Opioids, School Air" - Board of Health - May 4, 2026
Toronto · May 06, 2026
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meeting so far. So again, good morning
to everybody. Hey, I see Council
Thompson's online. Welcome, Council
Thompson.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I had some
challenges uh signing in this morning,
but good morning, everyone.
>> Happy you're here now. So, welcome to
our May 4th meeting and the May May the
4th be with you.
I've always wanted to say that.
We have a lighter agenda today, but
we'll be addressing some very pertinent
public health topics. First, I want to
acknowledge that Toronto, May 5th, is
the National Day of Awareness and
Remembrance for the Missing and Murdered
Indigenous Women and Girls and the 2
SLGBTI
plus people, also known as Red Dress
Day. As we take the day to honor the
lives and legacies of missing and
murdered indigenous women, girls, and
2LGBTQI
plus people, we must acknowledge that
the way ongoing colonial violence
touches all areas of our life and the
impacts it can have on health outcomes
both at individual and community levels.
We stand in solidarity with the families
and communities who continue to pursuit
of justice, healing, and change, and
remain committed to our ongoing work
co-led with indigenous communities to
address the persisting health inequities
that result from the legacy of
colonialism.
Today, we'll discuss adverse childhood
experience, ACEs.
In Toronto, over 30% of adults in
Toronto have reported at least one ACE
with indigenous black lowincome
immigrants and to SLGBQ plus communities
being disproportionately affected.
It is a very heavy topic. It's important
to talk about ACEs because they are
associated with negative outcomes later
in life. But that does not have to be
the case. The impacts of ACEs can be
offset by positive childhood experiences
which can help build resilience. Toronto
Public Health plays a role in promoting
protective factors from per
preconception and thought throughout
child development.
Shortly we will hear from the Joanne uh
Figaniano Scott, chief nursing officer
and director of community health and
well-being and Dr. Alison Chris, acting
deputy medical officer of health about
the various interventions we lead to
prevent ACEs
as well as our co-leership on the
Ontario early adversity and resilience
framework.
The second and final item on the our
agenda today is the annual report on
service agreements awarded and executed
by the medical of health. These
agreements allow us to deliver essential
public health programs in partnership
with community- based organizations,
prioritizing equity deserving
populations, including seniors with
lowincome, youth experiencing
homelessness, newcomers, and communities
facing barriers to care.
I'm very happy to report that DPH has
entered into purchase agreement with
both the 519 and HQ to continue
essential health promotion services
previously delivered by the AIDS
committee of Toronto.
This interimm funding approach will take
us to the end of the year while TPH
staff will uh examine our existing
sexual health program purchase of
service agreements to determine a
longterm plan.
And finally, I would like to acknowledge
that Monday, May 12th marks the
beginning of National Nursing Week. from
our he from our sexual health clinics to
the downtown core team and our extensive
vaccination program. Our public our
Toronto public health nurses take on a
merit of roles to ensure that our
residents are receiving the care they
need. I extend my sincere appreciation
to all the nurses of Toronto for their
tireless work day in and day out. You
truly are the heart of our healthcare
system. So thank you once again and with
that I'll turn it over to Dr. Mury for
some comments.
>> Morning and thank you chair Moyes.
Welcome and thanks for joining us today
both in person and online. Today's
report and presentation will touch on
some key aspects of public health's
work. Before we get into today's agenda,
I would also like to take a moment to
recognize the recent closure of the AIDS
Committee of Toronto, also known as ACT.
After years of delivering critical
services to the community, ACT's final
days of operations was on March 31st.
ACT provided important services to
people living with and affected by HIV
in the city, including through projects
supported by the Toronto Urban Health
Fund. Toronto Public Health recognizes
the importance of this work and has been
working to ensure continuity of these
services by other providers in the
community.
We're pleased to announce that to meet
those needs, Toronto Public Health has
entered into agreements with the 519
Community Center and HQ to provide
essential services in 2026, including
health promotion, sex, community- based
sexual health, education, and outreach,
and access to testing and counseling for
HIV.
Turning back to other reports today,
we're looking at the impact of adverse
childhood experiences, also known as
ACEs, and the work of Toronto Public
Health, the city, and our community
partners that we're doing to prevent and
mitigate the health impacts associated
with ACEs.
This report highlights the role of
positive early experiences in building
resilience and lifelong health,
including reducing substance risk, and
points to the importance of coordinated
actions across city divisions and with
community partners to achieve this work.
This is public health working upstream
and demonstrating high return on
investment by preventing root causes of
health outcomes. Preventing ACEs is
grounded in equity, population level
interventions, evidenceinformed
programming, and trauma-informed
practice.
Early intervention is the most
cost-effective public health strategy
with long-term impacts on health, mental
health, and substance use prevention.
This approach has also been a pillar of
our harm reduction strategies and
captured in our health our city a mental
health substance use harm reduction and
treatment strategy for Toronto that was
launched in 2023.
The prevention of ACEs through enhanced
child and family mental health is an
explicit goal of the strategy because we
know ACEs increase the risk of mental
health challenges and substance use
later in life.
And we know why it is important to
prevent the initiation of substance use.
In looking at our latest surveillance
and monitoring data, we saw a decline in
fatal opioid overdoses in 2025.
However, we are continuing to see an
increase in non-fatal overdoses, both
opioid related and through other
contaminants such as tranquilizers,
benzoazipines, and new more potent
synthetic opioid contaminants,
reflecting the ongoing toxicity
of our unregulated drug supply.
Non-fatal overdoses still have
significant impact, both short-term and
long-term consequences, for the
individual experiencing the overdose, as
well as their family and friends and for
the health care system. In February of
this year, we saw the highest number of
non-fatal opioid overdoses that we've
seen in the past two years.
What this tells us is that Toronto's
drug supply remains toxic and that we
still need as many evidence based
interventions as possible to support the
prevention, care, and treatment for
people who use substances.
This includes harm reduction, drug
checking, peer supports, and welcoming
places where people who use substances
can feel comfortable coming to receive
immediate and long-term care and
supports for their current needs and
their recovery goals.
We also know why preventing ACEs and
increasing resilience is important for
preventing family violence. In 2023,
city council declared gender-based
violence and intimate partner violence
as an epidemic. In the years that have
followed, Toronto Public Health and the
city have strengthened public health
programs that support victims and
survivors of intimate partner violence,
including pregnant individuals and
families with young children.
With leadership from our city partners
with social development's gender equity
division, we are developing a city-wide
campaign to bring greater awareness of
gender-based violence and intimate
partner violence through a public health
and equity focused lens. The city
continues to support programs that
connect residents and visitors to city
and community- based resources and
supports including safetto and IPV data
monitoring.
Lastly, as councelor Moyes mentioned,
tomorrow we recognize Red Dress Day. On
this day, May 5th, we observe the
National Day of Awareness of Missing,
murdered indigenous women, girls, trans,
and two spirit plus peoples. In Canada,
indigenous women experienced
disproportionately high rates of
physical and sexual assault in their
lifetime.
I encourage you all if you are in person
to come down and visit in the lobby of
city hall a wonderful display for red
dress day recognizing the harms against
indigenous women and girls who are still
missing have not been registered as
missing or have not been registered as
somebody affected by by violence.
Thank you so much for joining today.
We'll turn it back to Chair Moyes for
continue meeting.
>> Thank you Dr. Murdy. And as mentioned we
do have two items on today's agenda. So
the first item is uh HL 32.1 promoting
positive childhood experiences to
improve health outcomes across the
lifespan. We have a presentation on this
item so I will hold it down. And item 2
HL32.2 service agreements awarded uh and
executed by the medical office of health
2426.
Uh we do have speakers on that item. So
I will hold it down as well for that
reason. And so we'll go up back to item
HL32
one promoting positive childhood
experiences to improve health outcomes
across the lifespan. Director uh
Dr. Mur do you want to introduce the U
presenters?
Oops.
Uh welcoming today's morning we have
Joanne Figiano Scott our director of
community health and wellbeing as well
as our nursing officer as well as Dr.
Dr. Allison Chris, our acting deputy
medical officer of health, who will be
presenting on adverse childhood
experiences this morning.
Good morning
My name is Joanne Figliano Scott and uh
here with me today is um Dr. Allison
Chris. Today we're presenting the report
promoting positive childhood experiences
to improve health health outcomes across
the lifespan. The report and the
attachment provide information about
adverse childhood experiences,
protective factors, the Ontario early
adversity and resilience framework and
actions that TPH is taking to mitigate
ACEs.
Good morning.
During the presentation, we are going to
share how experiences in childhood
impact health across the life course. I
will start by briefly describing a few
key concepts including adverse childhood
experiences, protective factors res and
resilience. Joanne will then walk
through the Ontario early years
adversity and resilience framework and
how it applies to public health. We will
close by highlighting what the city of
Toronto is doing to prevent adversity in
early childhood and promote positive
experiences in childhood.
Research has demonstrated that
experiences early in life can have
lifelong impacts on health and
well-being. The neural connections that
make up the architecture of our brains
are formed on an ongoing basis,
beginning before birth and continuing
into adulthood. Brains are not just
born. They are built over time based on
experiences. In the first few years of
life, children experience a period of
intense brain development that provides
a foundation for the way their brain
develops for the rest of their life.
When children have positive experiences
and interactions with others, their
brains grow in a way that prepares them
for lifelong physical, mental, and
social well-being. It's experiencing
some stress and learning how to cope
with it are necessary for healthy
childhood development. Ideally, supports
help to reduce the negative impacts of
stress. However, without support,
adverse experiences in early life can
cause a toxic stress response. The toxic
stress response releases cortisol and
other chemicals in the brain which can
lead to increased reactivity to future
stressors. This exposure
can have a wear and tear effect on the
brain and the body. The term adverse
childhood experiences includes stressful
or potentially traumatic experiences
that occur before the age of 18. These
stressful and traumatic experiences can
cause extreme or prolonged stress
responses that is known as a toxic
stress response which can negatively
impact brain development, immune
function and stress regulation leading
to negative uh health outcomes over
time.
ACEs are linked to a wide range of
negative health outcomes and social
outcomes, including chronic disease such
as cancer and diabetes, poor mental
health, substance use, lower levels of
physical activity, unsafe sexual health
practices, and homelessness.
This graphic describes three categories
of adverse childhood experiences, which
include household, community, and
environment.
Examples of household include physical,
sexual and emot emotional abuse,
neglect, parental substance use or
mental health concerns, parental
incarceration, or witnessing do domestic
violence. It is important to recognize
that some of these factors are also
shaped by broader systemic factors,
including structural racism, poverty,
and inequities in the justice system,
which contribute to higher exposure to
adversity in some communities. Systemic
inequities create the conditions that
increase the risk of aces which reflects
the second category in the graphic which
is community. There are community and
structural forms of trauma such as
poverty, racism, housing instability,
colonialism and more which contribute to
chronic toxic toxic stress. Lastly, the
environmental category includes natural
disasters and climate crisis. These
categories reflect not only individual
experiences but broader social and
structural conditions that shape the
environment where children live.
Adverse childhood experiences are highly
common in the general population.
In Toronto, a study is found that 31% of
adults report having experienced at
least one type of ACE. This was a survey
study done in 2019.
The most common type of ACE reported was
emotional abuse followed by household
violence, physical abuse, sexual abuse,
and neglect. The more adversity someone
faces early in life, the higher the risk
for mental health challenges, chronic
disease, and social stress later on.
equity denied populations, including
black and indigenous communities,
low-income families, newcomers, to
SLGBTQ plus people, women, people with
disabilities, and families impacted by
the justice system.
Um,
I just lost my place.
experience higher disabilities,
experience higher rates of ACES, thanks
Joanne, due to systemic factors such as
poverty, racism, housing instability,
colonialism, and inequities in the
justice system. These differences are
not due to individual choices, but
rather reflect systemic conditions that
shape access to resources and
opportunities.
This highlights the importance of a
public health approach to prevent ACEs
that prioritizes upstream interventions
that address systemic inequities and
promote protective interventions for
equity denied groups who are more likely
to experience multiple ACEs.
Given how common adverse childhood
experiences are and how unevenly they
affect some communities due to systemic
inequities, it's important to understand
what can reduce their impact. This
visual illustrates resilience as a
moving balance. The seessaw shifts as
children's experiences change over time.
As negative experiences increase, the
balance tips and the risk to health
rises, including longerterm outcomes
like chronic disease. But the balance is
not fixed. As positive supports are
added, such as caring relationships,
stable housing, and supportive
communities, connectedness. They add
weight to the other side of the seessaw,
allowing children to adapt, recover, and
even thrive despite adversity.
When adversity cannot be fully
prevented, strong supports can buffer
its effects and protect health. This is
the foundation of a public health
approach for ACEs. We focus on upstream
interventions that address systemic
inequities, reduce risk and ne negative
experiences where possible while also
strengthening positive supports, coping
skills, and emotional regulation through
responsive relationships.
Toronto Public Health partnered with
other Ontario public health units to
co-lead the development of the Ontario
early adversity and resilience
framework. The framework guides public
health and related sectors in the
prevention and of early adversity and
promotion of resilience. It identifies
four key focus areas that are important
to child development and family
well-being. Socially connected,
equitable and inclusive communities,
social and emotional development and
resilience. responsive and culturally
safe parenting and caregiving and
reproductive health and parenting
caregiving readiness. The framework
identifies five pathways towards
implementing effective interventions in
the following areas. Shifting social
norms, integrating upstream strategies
to address the fundamental causes of
health disparities, influencing healthy
public policy by implementing policies
that improve the built environment and
encourage child and familyfriendly
communities. intervening to lessen harms
by increasing resilience learning skills
and providing trauma and violence
informed environments and collecting and
utilizing data. This framework
emphasizes that preventing adversity
requires coordinated action across
sectors, not just individual level
services.
So now what are we doing about it? One
key role public health undertakes is
population health surveillance and data
analysis related to ASUS. This work
increases understanding of how common
ACEs are, what drives them, and their
impacts supporting datainformed
decisions. It's important to note that
there are challenges with measuring ACEs
locally as it requires analysis of m
multiple indicators and data sources,
which is why collaboration is essential
to addressing some of these data
limitations. A few examples of
collaborative data efforts include
partnering with social development
safetto collaborative an analytics and
learning environment scale a
collaborative lab that allows the city
and partners to share data identify
effective interventions and communicate
lessons to advance prevention focused
safety outcomes. Work is also underway
with Public Health Ontario and the
Association of Public Health
Epidemiologists of Ontario on
initiatives to analyze local data on
adversity and resilience, including a
local survey of ASIS prevalence and
identification of prioritized ASIS and
resilience population health indicators.
We also recently hosted a research a
research salon with Dalana School of
Public Health to explore evidence-based
policies and innovative solutions that
could support upstream violence
prevention.
I'll now provide an example to
illustrate how monitoring and assessing
population health data related to ASUS
helps inform program planning to provide
interventions
through regular population health
surveillance. Data showed that the
percentage of Toronto women who
experienced anxiety during pregnancy
pregnancy increased from 4.4% in 2020
2014 to 11.3% in 2023 through the
healthy babies healthy children
screening of families with newborns.
Families who screen in with high levels
of postpartum depression and anxiety are
referred to the perinatal adjustment
program. The data insights shared on
TPH's population health status in
indicators dashboard prompted the PAP
program to start using an anxiety
screening tool with all new clients at
intake and throughout receipt of PAP
services to monitor symptoms and guide
interventions. Implementation of the
additional screening tool helped to
identify those struggling with anxiety
for appropriate intervention. In 2025,
54% of clients had a score reduction of
four or more, which is considered a
significant improvement in symptoms. All
clients with either a high anxiety with
high anxiety or a high depression score
are referred to appropriate mental
health services. This example shows how
population health data can directly
inform program changes and improve
outcomes for families and children long
term.
Early adversity is shaped by systems and
environments, not just individual
choices. Which means prevention requires
collaboration across sectors with city
and community partners to increase
access to the social and structural
conditions that support health. Toronto
Public Health collaborates with partners
such as social development, Toronto
Children's Services, Toronto Employment
and Social Services, and Toronto Shelter
and Support Services to advance
collective action across sectors such as
health, housing, employment, and
justice. Some examples of the this work
include collaborating with the poverty
reduction office on food security
initiatives including monitoring food
affordability in Toronto and the cost of
living pressures for low-income
households. We are also enhancing
understanding of ACES across Safo
programs and initiatives. Another key
area of collaboration is violence
prevention including intimate partner
violence and gender-based violence. This
work includes policy development,
population level reporting on
indicators, school health programs that
promote healthy relationships and sexual
health education, building further
awareness of intimate partner violence
and gender-based violence.
Through a citywide public health
awareness campaign led by social
development's uh gender equity unit. In
our direct client serving work, we
establish strong referral pathways to
city services and community programs so
clients can access the social
determinance of health such as housing,
food, primary care, and other basic
needs. Examples include increasing
access to primary care for those that
are currently unattached and also
include the newborn OHIP access
initiative which helps prevent newborns
from being incorrectly denied OHIP
registration when parents are uninsured
and connecting people without a regular
healthcare provider to primary care.
Together, this cross-divisional and
cross- sector work helps reduce risk,
strengthen protective factors, and
create the conditions that support
resilience.
In alignment with guidance from the
Ontario Early Adversity and Resilience
Framework,
there are many opportunities to promote
protective factors that build resiliency
through the life course of a child.
Toronto Public Health provides services
and programs across the lifespan that
help promote safe, stable, and nurturing
relationships and ensure a healthy start
for children. Toronto Public Health
offers programming be beginning in the
prenatal period to provide a sense of
parenting readiness and address health
behaviors that may increase the risk of
aces. Toronto Public Health also
conducts universal postpartum screening
and outreach once the baby is born.
Positive maternal, mental health, and
responsive infant feeding are important
protective factors in the perinatal
period.
Toronto Public Health operates three
home visiting programs which are
provided to parents who would benefit
from more intensive support in order to
provide a safe, stable, nurturing
environment for their children.
As children grow, ongoing parenting,
education, access to ch child care, and
school age programs that support healthy
relationships and a sense of belonging
are other vital protective factors to
prevent ACEs or mitigate their impact
over the life course.
This includes working with school
partners to help implement youth
leadership programs and build resiliency
through school-based peer leadership
programs that create opportunities for
children and youth to build confidence,
strengthen relationships, and develop a
sense of belonging. Key protective
factors that help buffer the effects of
adversity. Our services work across the
lifespan and across various sectors such
as education and child care to promote
protective factors and build resilience.
Healthy babies are more likely to
develop into healthy children and
healthy children are more likely to grow
up to be healthy teenagers and healthy
adults.
I'm going to share more about how
Toronto Public Health delivers clinical
services to address the downstream
impacts of early adversity. Toronto
Public Health's provides substance use,
sexual health, and dental clinical
services. Our programs see clients who
have experienced ASETs, which is why
clinical services are grounded in harm
reduction and embed a trauma-informed
approach to foster trust and continuity
of care for clients. Trauma-informed and
harm reduction approaches improve client
experiences through inquiry
psychological safety, trust,
empowerment, engagement, and
effectiveness of services leading to
improved outcomes. It is important that
services are trauma-informed to prevent
further trauma and retraumatization.
TPH recently initiated foundational
training on ACES, resilience, and
trauma-informed supervision and will
continue to enhance training for staff
and people leaders at Toronto Public
Health. Our clinical service programs
utilize a holistic approach to service
delivery. And we work with clients to
connect them to necessary services and
programs. This can include referrals
related to housing, employment, mental
health, and more.
Health equity is an integral and
foundational component of all of our
work. Monitoring health inequities and
targeting services is important to
advancing health equity and conducting
responsible engagement, access, and
protection of social demographic data is
essential. Each prioritized communities
most affected by systemic inequities
that increase the risk of of ACEs.
Toronto Public Health recently started
piloting the collection of
sociodemographic data at breastfeeding
clinics to monitor outcomes for priority
populations and identify opportunities
to reduce inequities at the service
level. This also involves targeted
services to high-risisk communities and
delivering programs and supports using
culturally safe and trauma-informed
approaches to promote equitable access
and responsiveness to diverse needs. For
example, all of TPH home visiting
programs prioritize equityden denied
populations at greatest risk for ACEs,
including young parents and those facing
settlement challenges, homelessness,
perinatal mental health concerns, or
income instability. Another important
component of the health equity work is
building
relationships and collaborating with
indigenousled and blackled community
organizations. Key initiatives include
establishing the indigenous wellness
committee and indigenous harm reduction
um table and partnerships with
indigenous services providers to deliver
culturally grounded health services.
TPH is also strengthening the programs
and partnerships we have in place to
support black families and identifying
priority initiatives to enhance our data
collection and service delivery to
support positive health and well-being
outcomes for Toronto's black
communities.
If we can leave everyone today with two
important takeaways, it's it is that
early life experiences, both positive
and negative, can have lifelong impacts
on health and well-being. And more
importantly, we can prevent and mitigate
against the negative effects of early
adversity by strengthening protective
factors at all levels of influence,
including the family level through
responsive caregiving, the community
level by building strong supports, and
societal levels by developing equitable
policies. Toronto Public Health will
continue to enhance our work to prevent
and mitigate ACEs in alignment with the
Ontario early adversity and resilience
framework and in collaboration with our
partners. I want to thank my colleagues
at Toronto Public Health, the city, and
in uh community partnerships that work
close closely with individuals,
families, and communities to build
protective factors that shape lifelong
health. While it's not easy work, the
the passion, commitment that they bring
to their work each day is truly
admirable and appreciated.
Thank you.
>> Thank you very much for a wonderful
presentation. I've learned a lot uh on
this item the last few weeks. Um we do
have speakers on this item. Um first up
is Nicole Bumont Christianen.
Are you here
online?
Nicole, can you hear me?
Hello.
>> Can you hear me?
>> Yes, we can.
>> Hello.
>> You have five minutes. Go ahead.
>> Hi. Thank you. Good morning, members of
the board. Um, Nicole had another event
uh and is unable to participate today.
I'm Nicole's partner, Staff.
>> Sorry.
>> I'm here as a parent.
>> One moment. One moment.
>> Um,
>> okay. Well, I'll allow you to speak, but
you'll have to give your name
information to the clerk. You cannot She
cannot trans.
>> Absolutely. I'm Stephan Christensen. I'm
very happy to be here today. I am here
as the parent of two children. I have a
14-year-old who identifies as 2SLgbq
plus an 11year-old with autism. I am
here since we're talking today about
promoting positive childhood experiences
through the Ontario Early Adversity and
Resilience Framework, which is an
extremely important advance. However,
the provincial government's education
system changes through Bill 101 may
exacerbate adverse childhood
experiences. So children spend a large
part of their life at school. Is it okay
if I share a slide?
Share.
>> Okay, we see.
>> Thank you. So Dr. Tyler Black, he's an
emergency psychiatrist and Canada's
leading suicide researcher. He's done
research on suicidality in schools. It
shows a difficult reality. Pediatric
suicide death rates increase by 30 to
50% during school months and weekdays.
The school environment is often a
child's greatest stressor. For my
children, one navigating a world not
built for neurodeiversity and another
navigating a social climate that is
increasingly hostile to queer youth.
School is a high stakes health
environment.
Bill 101 centralizes power, stripping
our local school boards of the ability
to respond to the specific needs of
Toronto's diverse students. Bill 101
allows the province to override
university academic freedom in teacher
education and training. This means that
the province can mandate a curriculum
that deprioritizes diversity or mental
health education by dictating curriculum
from a central office. The bill also
removes protective factors like the
school climate surveys that help us
identify bullying and safety issues on
the ground, issues that the data
gathering side of the adversity and
resilience framework could complement.
In an article in Scientific American,
Dr. Black shares some suggestions and
areas of focus for how to improve the
mental health of students. Uh, universal
mental health literacy. We've developed
incredible educational goals for math,
reading, science, and the arts. There
should be a dedicated pathway for
equally necessary learning. How to take
care of yourself, how to look out for
yourself and help others, and how to
improve both the detection and
prevention of mental health crisis.
We should take bullying seriously and
not just focus on the bullies. Public
health data shows that both the bullied
and the bullies share backgrounds of
trauma. Our community of services should
support both to prevent long-term
psychiatric cycles.
funding are initiating local community
neighborhood groups to restore the
social determinance of joy. Then
children will be have access to play,
music, and art. These aren't extras.
These are biological necessities for
relaxation and development.
Uh we should end a perfect attendance
awards which encourage children to
ignore their physical and mental limits.
We should all from time to time
recognize when we are at our limit and
we need a break. Children should also be
encouraged to report when they can do so
and be supported. Dr. Black also
recommends reducing or eliminating
homework and starting school later. We
must respect children's identity and
identity formation as a non-political
compassionate health requirement.
Finally, we must establish mechanisms to
address abuse, including teacher-led
abuse, ensuring that the adults in the
building are never the source of a
child's trauma. Should Bill 101 pass,
Toronto Public Health will likely see an
increase in families, children, and
young adults needing city services,
community programs, and resources.
Communities and guardians will be the
ones left to pick up the pieces to
provide and distribute the programs and
services that we know protect our
children and K to2. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you very much. Any questions for
the deputent?
Seeing none, thank you for coming in
today.
Uh, up next is uh Sammy Richard. Do you
hear
>> online?
Sammy, can you hear me?
>> Yes. Good morning. Can you hear me?
Okay.
>> Yes, we can. Five minutes. Go ahead.
>> Wonderful. Thank you. Well, good morning
everyone, chair and members of the
board. Uh, as noted, my name is Sammy
Pritchard and I am the director of
advocacy and communications at YWC
Toronto, which is the city's largest
multi-ervice organization serving women,
girls, and gender diverse folks. Our
services include supportive and
affordable housing, shelters, child
care, a girl center, and antiviolence
services, including a 12-week parenting
program for children and their mothers
who have been exposed to abuse. And I
want to begin by thanking you for your
care and attention to this matter. The
report highlights what our organization
and the families we serve have long
known that childhood adversity does not
exist in a bubble or have a single
isolated impact but is shaped by social,
economic, and structural conditions that
often carry into adulthood. Many of the
children we support are experiencing
multiple intersecting adversities. These
experiences are often shaped by gender,
race, and broader structural inequities,
including barriers to immigration
status. For the children and families we
support, adverse childhood experiences
show up in many ways. They show up as
children entering shelter after fleeing
a violent household, as families
navigating housing procarity and
migration, and as caregivers navigating
trauma while trying to secure child
care, income support, and safety. When
caregivers are unsafe, under constant
stress, or navigating trauma without
adequate support, it directly affects
children's ability to feel secure,
develop healthily, and flourish. So this
tells us that preventing adversity for
children means preventing violence and
instability in the lives of caregivers
as well. So we welcome the report's
recognition of a coordinated
trauma-informed approach across city
services. However, true progress
requires more than just training or or
minor practice changes. We must
fundamentally rethink our systems to
ensure that they offer dignity, trust,
and flexibility. And this is especially
vital for indigenous, black, and
racialized families who face systemic
surveillance and barriers to care. And
the city must ensure its services offer
genuine support for survivors of
violence, not undue obstacles through
system navigation.
Gender-based and community violence, are
key drivers of these experiences.
Children who witness violence, whether
at home or in their communities, carry
that trauma into their development, into
their learning, their relationships, and
their health journeys. For caregivers,
surviving violence while parenting often
means navigating systems that are
designed to support safety, healing, and
caregiving all at the same time. So
again, from our perspective, in order to
address these adverse child experiences,
we need to focus on preventing them in
the first place. In in practice, this
means ensuring safe, stable, and
affordable housing, accessible child
care that supports healthy development,
income security, and violence
prevention. All of which are
foundational to children's health and
wellness and that of their caregivers.
Having declared gender-based violence
and epidemic, the city must now treat
safety, housing, and childare as
essential public health measures.
Multi-service and community
organizations like ours play an
important role in making this approach
tangible. Services such as our housing,
child care, violence prevention, and
healing support services, as well as
youth gathering spaces like our girls
center allow us to identify adverse
childhood related needs early and
strengthen preventative efforts by
offering safe, stable environments and
access to care. This work and that of
our partners must be recognized and
supported as the essential public health
infrastructure that it is. To truly
advance the goals of this framework,
that infrastructure must be adequately
resourced, stabilized, and meaningfully
involved in shaping solutions. This
means sustained support to the community
organizations leading the work of
prevention and healing.
Finally, while the report acknowledges
colonialism, racism, and discrimination
based on identity and sexual orientation
as drivers of childhood adversity, we
must move beyond recognition. We need
clear, accountable implementation of
decolonial, anti-racist, anti-opressive
practices that are embedded in how
services are designed, how they're
delivered, and how they're evaluated
across the city. And as a sanctuary
city, we must ensure non-status
residents can access these services
without fear or barriers.
Public health leadership is essential to
aligning city divisions, agencies, and
community partners around a shared
trauma and violence informed approach.
And we really appreciate that this lens
is recognized in the report. But again,
true progress requires more than
training. It demands a systemic overhaul
rooted in dignity and trust. And we urge
the board of health to adopt these
recommendations to begin addressing the
root drivers of childhood adversity and
advance a vision for public health that
identifies safety, housing, and child
care as essential protective measures
that addresses gender-based violence as
a key driver of childhood adversity.
ensures access to services free of
barriers and fear, including for
newcomers, migrants, and families with
precarious status, and that sustains the
community organizations that are central
to prevention and healing. Thank you
very much for your time and for the
opportunity to speak today.
>> Thank you. Good timing. Any questions
for the deputent? Seeing none, thank you
so much for coming today. Uh, up next is
Kelly Mintosh
online. Kelly,
>> good morning, Kelly. You have five
minutes.
>> Morning.
>> As a member of Clean Indoor Air Toronto,
I was encouraged to see Toronto Public
Health recognize poor air quality as a
contributor to adverse childhood
experiences. We already understand that
conditions like poverty, instability,
and chronic stress can have lasting
detrimental effects on lifelong health.
As we just heard in this TPH report, the
physical environments in which children
grow and learn are also predictive of
their long-term health. One of the most
important parts of that environment is
the air they breathe in school every
day. Improving indoor air quality in
schools benefits students and education
workers with fewer illnesses, fewer
absences, better concentration, and
stronger learning outcomes. In short,
clean indoor air helps set children up
for healthier, more successful lives.
But these benefits are not distributed
equally. Students from equityden denied
communities are more likely to live in
buildings and attend older schools with
inadequate HVAC systems due to chronic
underfunding. 84% of Tdsb school
buildings are in a state of disrepair
with many classrooms lacking mechanical
ventilation and air conditioning. When
air quality is poor, it doesn't affect
everyone the same way. It
disproportionately harms those who are
already facing challenges. That makes
clean air not just a health issue, but
an equity issue. Without proper
ventilation and effective filtration,
airborne pollutants and viruses
accumulate in the air we share. And
without real-time monitoring, we can't
assess when this air becomes unsafe.
Clean indoor air protects us from
pollution, wildfire smoke, allergens,
and airborne infectious diseases such as
measles, influenza, and COVID. Exposure
can have significant health
consequences. Fine particulate air
pollution from sources including cars,
jet planes and industry and climate
change related events such as wildfires
is viewed by the WHO as a leading risk
factor for cardiovascular disease,
asthma and cancer. The risk of airborne
disease transmission increases with poor
indoor air quality which can cause
health impacts which are not mild.
COVID, for example, increases the risk
of heart attack and stroke, can damage
the brain and other organs, and
according to stats can leads to long
COVID in roughly one in nine people.
Physical health is also closely tied to
mental health. When kids are constantly
sick from exposure to air pollution,
airborne diseases, and extreme heat, it
will almost certainly impact their
mental health. Despite these significant
risks, public awareness remains very
low. Few understand how easily airborne
risks can be reduced by cleaning the
air. When clean, clear, consistent
guidance is not present, misinformation
fills the gap. Toronto Public Health's
mandate is to support and promote the
health of all Toronto residents,
including students and education staff.
The good news is that we know how to
solve this problem with early
interventions like ventilation, air
filtration, indoor air quality
monitoring, and wearing high-quality
masks. This will pay off through better
overall health, fewer illnesses,
increased attendance, stronger academic
outcomes, and reduced strain on our
healthcare system. I thank the board of
health for the motion to direct Toronto
Public Health to review indoor air
quality guidance and look forward to
your report in Q3. For the present
report, I ask that TPH review how the
conditions within Toronto's public
schools may be impacting students
physical and mental health, particularly
in light of the changes being
implemented by the Ministry of
Education. I'm asking Toronto Public
Health to take three key steps. First,
educate. Launch a broad public awareness
campaign explaining the risks of poor
indoor air quality and how to improve it
using these simple, effective tools.
Second, advocate. Direct the adoption of
indoor air quality standards for all
public indoor spaces, particularly
schools and childcare centers. Third,
publish. Provide clear, accessible IAQ
guidelines on what constitutes clean,
safe to breathe air, and publicly
monitor the carbon dioxide
concentrations of classrooms and other
public indoor spaces. Educate, advocate,
publish. Clean indoor air protects
everyone, but it is especially
beneficial for those who need it most.
By prioritizing clean air, we can create
healthier schools, reduce inequities,
improve learning, and give every child a
stronger, healthier start in life. Thank
you.
>> Thank you, Kelly. Any questions for the
deputent? Seeing none, thank you for
coming in today. You
>> next up is Debbie King.
Morning Debbie.
Good morning everyone. I'm Debbie King,
as you heard, and I'm the elected
trustee representing Parkdale High Park
on the Toronto District School Board.
I'm here speaking as an individual today
in support of the recommendations that
are before you and just offering some
additional perspective and and context
uh based on my experiences. It's very
encouraging to see the potential
endorsement of Ontario's early adversity
and resilience framework and how it can
be used to build on public health's
initiatives and collaboration with
external partners. Since we understand
that early experiences have such a
powerful influence on lifelong health
and the significant amount of time that
children spend in school, I really
appreciate the report's recognition of
the relationship between learning
conditions and the mitigation of ACEs
and we heard one of the speakers uh
speak to that a bit earlier as well as a
shared responsibility and the
acknowledgment of public health's work
requiring very close collaboration with
city partners such as school boards on
initiatives that advance these goals. So
given that it is relevant then to
consider the learning and conditions in
school environments especially when they
are contrary to the goals within the
framework and promoting the positive
experiences that we're working toward.
So, what I'm sharing today are concerns
about the learning conditions in Toronto
schools that are already arising or have
the potential to arise based on recent
and proposed regulations from the
Ministry of Education.
My remarks focus uh attention on some of
the equity denied groups who are
disproportionately impacted by ACEs as
we saw in the slide presentation.
So according to the framework, sources
of adversity include consistent exposure
to structural forms of trauma, including
racism and poverty. At the same time,
the Ontario Human Rights Commission's
Dreams Delayed Report, that's a report
on addressing anti-black racism in
Ontario schools, it asserts that racial
discrimination and harassment continue
to cast a shadow over the lives of black
children and youth in our schools. And
this is relevant because there are
changes within Ontario's bill 33, Bill
101, and also decisions that are being
made by a ministryapp appointed
supervisor at the board that could see
even greater sources of adversity uh and
also result in reduced access to
services and supportive relationships.
So, just to give you a few short
examples, Bill 33 mandates school
resource officer programs in Toronto
schools. This is something that Ontario
Human Rights, the Ontario Public School
Board and Ombbudsman Ontario have all
cautioned against because of the
historical harm to indigenous and black
students in particular. As well, Bill
101, which was referenced earlier, if
passed, we could see school climate
surveys and research by the Higher
Education Quality Council of Ontario
cease. And what that would mean is a
loss of data collection about student
experiences as well as equity centered
recommendations
from an external body that have proven
to be very effective in identifying and
responding to systemic discrimination in
our schools. And then lastly, under
ministry supervision of the board, we've
seen uh significant staff support
positions cut for the upcoming 202627
school year. And I know that among the
community there is quite a bit of
concern that based on the financial
pressures we might see uh further cuts
including the potential loss of the
model schools for inner city program.
Model schools are programs that are
informed by the learning opportunity
index and they're designed to enhance
equity and well-being in areas that are
facing financial challenges and limited
access to resources.
So the loss of these programs would
reduce uh again quality programming and
supportive relationships for families as
well in some of the highest area needs
of the city. So these are just a few
examples and you know just considering
the the obligation of governments and
social services to implement
interventions that prevent early
adversary uh early adversity.
Uh I think that you know all of this can
be very helpful as you continue to
consider how you support children uh in
that school age uh period of the
lifespan. And what I would suggest is if
you're not already using it as a tool,
the TSB learning opportunity index could
be very useful as another data source
just to help you target uh you know
where you apply those upstream
interventions and services as well. A
review of the impacts that Bill 33 is
having on school environments and how
it's changing uh the effects of the
school and uh and children's experiences
in school. So, I think I'm just over the
time, but thank you so much uh for the
consideration.
>> Yes. Go. Thank you, Debbie. Uh you have
one question from council bravo.
>> Sure.
>> Thank you. Uh it's nice to have a
trustee here with us. Um and um welcome.
I understand I've heard from a few
trustees uh with concerns about the uh
publication uh whether the public there
will be publication of the learning
opportunities index and uh how important
that is obviously for how the board
makes its decisions including on model
schools. Is that something you've been
hearing yourself?
>> Thank you for the question councelor
Bravo. absolutely is in the absence of
public meetings and with trustees
sidelined from the role there's not an
opportunity to understand
um where this report is how it's being
distributed or utilized across the
system. Uh and again just with the
pattern of types of decisions that we're
seeing under ministry supervision um
there's concern that we won't see the
same attention uh to the kinds of
programming and allocations that were
informed uh by that data. So the the key
um the key challenge here is if we don't
we're not able to see how the learning
opportunities index is it being
collected is it being how is it being
used and uh have it be uh publicly
available. It's been an important tool
not just for decision makers at the
board but also for trustees as
representatives of the public and for
parents. I've been um a parent of uh
three children that went to uh model
school for inner city. So I understand
this very well and I was on the inner
city advisory committee at the board for
a long time.
Um what do you think is lost when the
public parents um are and are still
elected representatives
um and in general other institutions and
organizations are not able to understand
or see the outcomes of this meas this
measurement of inequity.
>> There's a level of transparency and
accountability that is lost again
because the information is not
accessible. there's not the opportunity
to understand and to advocate for how it
might be used. Uh, one of the other
changes that we've seen is a community
advisory committee uh that specifically
addresses uh inner city uh um uh issues
uh has also been sidelined. So, you
know, for over 10 months now, we haven't
had the benefit of external partners,
organizations, parents, uh, that have a
very particular lens in this area and
would normally participate in reviewing
that kind of information, making
recommendations to the board for
consideration. None of that is happening
in the current situation. So again, just
the loss of that transparency and
information is hindering our our ability
to to participate uh and to make sure
there's accountability for providing the
supports that our students need for all
of the reasons uh that have been
discussed here.
>> Thank you. I was a co-chair of that
inner city advisory committee which
oversaw the um the initiatives and I
know that there were Toronto public
health staff there. there were um city
staff in other divisions, foundations,
uh academics including parents and
trustees. So really appreciate you
coming here today and talk to us about
um where we're headed and this tool at
least for would be I think of interest.
See being able to see that for this
board of health and I'll be moving a
motion to that effect. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh go ahead director Zho. Go
ahead. Um thank you for the informative
um talk today. Um I actually just wanted
to learn more about the school climate
survey. You mentioned two different uh
surveys being ministered. One is the
learning opportunities index and then
the other one is school climate survey.
Can you talk to us a little bit more
about what the school climate survey um
measures and why it's it's so important?
>> Absolutely and thank you for that
question as well. So the school climate
survey is administered to students. So
it's one of the few opportunities that
we have to hear directly from students
right across the K to2 experience. Uh
and it measures everything uh from their
sense of belonging um to experiences of
bullying and it can capture the kind of
information that's not normally captured
in in other structured um forms. So
again, uh it's just very useful to
understand from their perspective what
they're actually experiencing. That
sense of belonging is foundational, we
know, to academic success, uh to a sense
of well-being, uh and would definitely
have overlaps between some of the the
ACEs that we're hearing today as well.
Uh so again this the evidencebased
information and data collection is
really critical to be able to allocate
resources, identify programs
um and continue that kind of positive
work.
>> Do you know that with Bill 101, is it
going to be replaced with a different
form of data collection that addresses
the positive experiences, the bullying,
or is it just no data being collected at
all?
>> A great question. when I would have had
for the Minister of Education, if there
were more time to uh provide feedback
and question with him. Um, right now the
way the bill is written and if it
passes, there's not a requirement for
the survey anymore. Um, so it puts into
question whether or not it would be
utilized and if it's not, uh, whether or
not there is, as you said, an
alternative measure of collection.
There's no mention uh of one in the
bill. So that's what raises the concern
that we're really losing an opportunity
um for some data driven uh kind of
information to help inform decisions.
>> Got it. Thank you very much.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Um I have a question myself.
So, in your deputation, you mentioned
the SRO program, and I know that um
there's evidence that shows that um
black and indigenous uh students are
harmed, mainly harmed by the SR program.
Um and while I was there, I know that
the at Tdsb the program uh was came to
an end. Is there any steps for that to
continue? Do you know what the
supervisor or the school board is now?
What the stance is on that?
>> So again, because trustees have not been
engaged with the board since June 30th
of 2025,
there have not been any official
conversations or information shared um
with us as a governance body. My
understanding based on information
shared through the media is that the
Toronto Police are not interested in
resuming this program. Uh however, that
doesn't mean that there wouldn't be some
other type of program under a different
name or branding. Uh it doesn't mean
that there aren't conversations
happening at the staff level. We simply
don't have that information. Uh and
again the concern would be that this was
a program that was cancelled uh by the
Tdsb for all of the reasons that we've
discussed and that I think you're aware
of. Um and with trustees not in a
governance role in a ministryapp
appointed supervisor in the place um we
could see different decisions made under
under that leadership.
>> Thank you so much. Uh seeing no other
questions from uh directors. Thank you
Debbie.
>> Thank you everyone. Um, next up is
Sandra Hugh. H Uh,
online.
Sandra, can you hear me?
Everyone, um, thank you for giving me
the opportunity to speak today. My name
is Sandra Ha and I'm a parent of a child
in the public funded school in Toronto.
I'm also director with the Ontario
Autism Coalition. I'm here today to
speak on the promoting of positive
childhood experiences to improve healthy
outcomes across the lifespan. I am
deeply concerned that for many students
with special needs, our school
environments are not proving positive
experiences and they are actually
contributing to adverse ones. children
spend the majority of their day at
school just like a few of my previous uh
delegates have mentioned. Um and for
many it's uh you know their primary uh
source of of socializing and and dealing
with their days. In the special needs
community we know that early
intervention and supportive environments
lead to better lifelong outcomes.
Unfortunately that's not what many
students are experiencing right now.
Students with special needs often face
bullying, lack of appropriate academic
and behavioral supports, and inequitable
expectations around attendance, not
because they're unwilling, but because
schools are unable to meet their needs.
They're also at risk of physical harm
due to inadequate supervision. We see
students eloping from school buildings
or being placed on what we call modified
schedules that limit access to to their
education. These are not isolated
incidents. They are systemic issues that
deny students meaningful and equitable
access to learning. As Ontario's
publicly funded schools continue to be
underfunded, these challenges are
worsening. Students are being excluded,
sometimes informally due to the lack of
staff and safe environments. Crowded
classrooms and larger classes further
compound this issue. Students on the
autism spectrum and those with other
disabilities are regularly excluded from
classroom activities, school trips, and
everyday learning experiences.
Data from the Ontario Autism Coalition's
202 2025 2026 education survey shows
that 26% of autistic students are now on
what we call modified schedules. It's a
significant 7% increase from last year.
Additionally, 74% of families report at
least one safety concern during the
school year, including bullying or
elopment, which means running away from
school. These aren't just statistics.
They reflect the real harm to children.
To address this, I urge the board of
health to consider the following. Um you
know Debbie mentioned the the collection
of data and you know we feel also that
the formal and informal exclusions um
need to be tracked along with disability
and accommodation uh context. Secondly
restore funding for play-based learning,
arts, music and physical activity. These
aren't just extras, they're essential,
especially for students with sensory and
developmental needs. Thirdly, perfect
attendance awards, which unfairly
penalize students should no longer be in
play. You know, they can't actually go
to school without those proper supports.
So, it really is something that is
difficult for for uh special needs
families.
um increasing the needs-based education
funding so B boards can actually hire
more trained support staff and meet
their legal obligations under the
education act, you know, per and also
protecting the democratic oversight and
transparency within school boards. As
Debbie mentioned, we are not seeing
anything from school boards currently
due to the you know lack of transparency
of supervisor that we have in play right
now.
Uh we also encourage the use of calming
and exclusion rooms with clear
enforcable standards um so that they can
be safely used by students who need
them. We also would hope that the
implementation of the Accessibility for
Ontarians with Disabilities Act
education standards um has some
accountability and some timelines
attached to that. And finally, as Debbie
mentioned previously,
removing policing from schools and
instead invest in social workers, child
and youth workers, and other
paraprofessionals who can build
supportive relationships with students.
I respectfully ask that the board of
health direct Toronto Public Health to
uh update its report to reflect these
recommendations that I've just stated.
Um, and I also asked the city council to
send a letter to the Ministry of
Education, Paul Kandra, and the Minister
of Health, Sylvia Jones, uh, recognizing
that underfunding in education is
contributing to adverse childhood
experiences for students in Toronto. Our
schools should be places where all
children feel safe and supported and be
able to thrive. Right now, too many are
not.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you so much, Sandra. Ha. Any
questions for deputent? Seeing none,
thank you for coming in today.
Um, Mary Sharp.
Good morning.
No, just swipe and and till it turns
green. The base of the mic. Swipe it
until it turns green.
Now, can you hear me? Okay, good. Thank
you so much.
Okay. Um, for over five decades, I
worked as a health care practitioner
with pregnant and lactating women. I
have great respect for the complex
physiologic processes of pregnancy,
birth, lactation, and early infancy,
evidence-based practice, bodily
autonomy, and informed choice.
Today I specifically wish to speak to
the issue of sudden unexpected infant
deaths and public health consideration
around efforts to res to reduce these
deaths.
On the personal side, I gave birth to
six children between 1970 and 82 and
breastfed them well into toddlerhood.
The children were very healthy and I
remember only once using antibiotics for
sickness in their pre-teen years.
I followed common sense. At night, as
young infants, they were nursed and
slept soundly in our bed. I didn't pay
much attention to how they were
positioned when they slept. Certainly in
the day, they were placed on their
tummies when they slept, usually on a
sheepkin. I noticed that by using all
four limbs, they were able to lift their
heads up and from side to side, and they
crawled very early.
Thus, as a parent and health
professional, I was very surprised and
somewhat shocked to learn about the back
to sleep, later called safe to sleep
campaign launched in 1994 in the United
States and 1999 in Canada with the goal
of reducing SIDS or sudden infant
deaths, sudden sudden unexpected infant
deaths.
This um this campaign suggested that all
infants be placed on their backs to
sleep, that they should sleep alone and
should avoid sleeping on soft surfaces.
Some of this advice seemed sensible and
and intuitive, such as infants not
sleeping on pillows and soft surfaces
and later that cigarette smoke should be
avoided and that breastfeeding was
protective against SIDS. But sleeping
alone and having to sleep on their backs
for me was not. A flurry of materials
and programs flooded pregnant and new
parents with this advice. There have
been many studies to suggest that the
back to sleep initiative was highly
successful and led to a 50% reduction in
sudden infant deaths.
Critics say that some of this the
reduction of the SIDS numbers may have
been caused by reclassifications of how
infant deaths were being reported as
well as by the recent increase in
breastfeeding, an area so highly
supported by you folks by Toronto Public
Health and by our national agencies.
However, I think it's very important to
consider that the peak age for SIDS, 2
to four months,
is the same time infants receive their
first round of routine vaccines.
A 2011 and a 2020 study analyzing the
vaccine adverse event reporting system
data from 1990 to 2019 in the US noted
that 75% of reported SIDS cases occurred
within 7 days of vaccination.
However, the CDC
and other experts in the state state
that the veyors is a self-reporting
system and that this clustering is a
temporal association rather than a
causal one.
Often cited to support this lack of
connection of SIDS with vaccines are the
GE SID
study, German study on infant death done
by 2007
by venaman at al which showed no link
between vaccination and sids.
This multi-enter research project was
co-unded by Sanafi and Merc.
This is with pharmaceutical industry
money. This doesn't necessarily
invalidate the findings, but industry
co-unding and vaccine safety research is
certainly a conflict of interest that
should be disclosed early when clearly
when citing these papers. It's vital to
continue to collect and analyze data on
every aspect of deaths that do occur
from the medical history information of
the babies. But to question vaccines is
seen as irresponsible, rash, and
dangerous. Even though the public health
agency of Canada's own documents attest
to the many adverse events of vaccines,
regardless in their public-f facing
messages and in yours, these concerns
are not highlighted but seemingly
dismissed in favor of a belief in the
greater good of vaccines. This direction
has undermined transparency.
I think it's the role of any health care
agency to provide transparent, clear,
and evidence-based information about the
pros, cons, risks, benefits, and
uncertainties of any aspect of care so
that informed choices can be made. Let
us re-evaluate and be open to the
possibility that sudden unexplained
infant deaths could be caused by
vaccines given in the first few months
of a child's life. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. Any questions for the
deputent? Seeing none, thank you. Um,
Skyler Hail Jackson,
>> may I have the overhead, please?
>> Just put the item on.
>> Go on the overhead. Last time I was
here, it didn't go on.
>> Just put it on. There we go.
Okay, you have five minutes.
Toronto Public Health delivers programs
and services to enhance the health and
well-being of children to improve health
outcomes. According to this report,
early experiences have a powerful
influence on lifelong health and
exposure to early adversity is
associated with a negative long-term
health and social outcomes, including
chronic disease and mental health
challenges.
There is a childhood health crisis.
Toronto children are suffering from a
variety of lifelong chronic illnesses as
well as neurode divergent issues such as
autism, ADHD, and dyslexia. Current data
shows one in 10 children have ADHD.
One in 36 children are on the autism
spectrum, mostly boys, and two to five
children in every Ontario classroom, has
dyslexia.
This is pretty shocking.
How are Toronto parents and Toronto
teachers coping with such a
neurodeivergent generation of children?
In 2000, in 2024, CAMH revealed a
worrying decline in overall mental
health among Ontario students. 51% of
students indicated a moderate to serious
level of psychological distress, a
figure that has doubled over the past
decade. What is the root cause for our
sickest generation?
Can all the Toronto public health
programs and service services stop the
steep decline of children's health and
improve childhood health outcomes? It is
well known that children are born with
immature immune systems. Children must
encounter infections one by one to build
immunity. If children must encounter
infections one by one to build immunity,
then why do Ontario children get
multiple combined vaccines in one shot?
There are 75 doses of 18 vaccines
recommended for Ontario children and
seven vaccines are recommended for
pregnant women. Everything crosses the
placenta and the bloodb brain barrier of
the unborn baby. Where are the safety
studies proving these vaccines are safe
for children and pregnant women? Could
vaccines cause a toxic stress response
in children? Toronto Public Health is
focused on providing a healthy start for
children by meeting the objective to
reduce the burden of chronic and
infectious diseases and prioritizing
effective interventions for children and
youth. Are board members aware that
there are hundreds of evidence-based,
peer-reviewed studies showing that
unvaccinated children are healthier than
vaccinated children. Something is
causing our children to be the sickest
generation. It is time for the Toronto
Board of Health to step aside and allow
parents to make educated and informed
health decisions for their families.
Vaccinating is one of the most important
decisions a responsible parent is
required to make for the long-term
health of their child. One mistake early
on and the brain and the body of their
child may be forever changed. It is
heartening to see that Toronto Public
Health has expanded their individual and
group based in-person and online
workshops to support healthy
pregnancies, birth outcomes, and
preparation for parenthood. and that new
mothers have access to a number of
breastfeeding clinics. What is most
surprising is how board members appear
to be thoughtful, logical, cautious,
curious, and advocates for truth,
transparency, accountability, and
informed consent.
Except when it comes to vaccination,
it is the time. It is time to end
vaccine mandates for children to attend
school and remove the need for exemption
forms. It is time to end vaccine clinics
in schools. It is time to empower
families to make voluntary and informed
health decisions. It is time to support
individuals in their right to informed
consent and health freedom. Warning, if
you don't think for yourself, someone
will do it for you.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you. Councelor Bravo has a
question for you.
>> I um thank you for all of the deputants
that come. I however would like to
request that when you refer to people
not as neuro divergent that you consider
neurodeiversity. Have you thought of the
implications of your words and how
you're pathizing children when you when
you say that we're the most sick gen
that they're the most sick generation?
Actually, I took that word from you at
the last meeting because you used it
when you waved your hands around and
said there could be autistic people in
this room.
>> I said neurodeiverse neurode divergent.
>> No, I said neurodeiverse and and and uh
just for your information, are you aware
that Einstein had both dyslexia and
ADHD? So, yes, everybody is. It's a Yes.
So let's just consider that when
advocating for your position perhaps you
should think about not venturing into uh
into that area because I well it's your
right to obviously to come and speak to
us as as a as a some of us are parents
or have family members or ourselves in
that situation. uh the brilliance it can
result and it doesn't matter um to to
say that this is a throwaway generation
I think is very um unfortunate. It's not
a throwaway
generation. It the problem is that no
one is facing the facts of the problems
around vaccinations. They're giving
vaccinations to two-month-old,
four-month-old and six-month old babies
based on no safety studies.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
Seeing no further questions. Um Nicole
Curado, are you here online?
>> Nicole, can you hear me?
>> Yes, I am here.
>> Five minutes.
>> I would a couple of things I would like
to say. Um I do not suffer from autism
and my autism was not created by
vaccines nor was my ADHD created by
vaccines. It was something I was born
with. It's something that's genetic.
It's something that's been in my family
for a while. So, I just want to clear
that clear that up and clarify that that
uh people do not suffer from autism or
ADHD. It's just something they have.
It's something they always have. And
what I would like to say is that autism
is not caused by adversive childhood
experiences. However, if an experience
that might not be so adversive to a
neurotypical person is going to be far
more adversive to a person on the autism
spectrum because
person on the autism spectrum
is going to perceive everything very
sensitive is going to perceive
everything a lot more acutely. I feel
everything a lot stronger. I you know
everything
sounds are a lot louder.
I'm still bothered by a lot of things.
So you know an adverse of childhood
experience would have been they had this
big balloon pop. What I I don't know if
I was like four or something
at a a shopping mall and you know they
would drop a bunch of balloons. Everyone
would just be popping them to to get to
get uh coupons. It was absolutely
traumatic. It it was like it was like
bombs going off. It was and I'd never
been in a war, but it was it was an
adverse of childhood experience. Having
having someone in a play group because
they didn't want to touch paint,
grabbing that my hands and shoving them
in the paint. Those were adverse of
childhood experiences. And they're
things that maybe wouldn't traumatize a
neurotypical child, but they traumatized
me. And those those are the kind of
things that, you know, and even then,
you know, my my behavior, you know, I
would I would have meltdowns and I would
bite people and, you know, I heard my
mother saying, "Oh, I wonder if she's a
psychopath." And and that really hurt.
My mother loves me. She wonderful
mother, but uh wonderful. I have
wonderful parents, but she back then did
not know about autism, and I hadn't even
been diagnosed yet. She didn't know what
I was. I'm actually the opposite of a
psychopath. extremely sensitive and but
it's those kind of little things where a
person you know has meltdowns in public
and you know the parent says all this is
because they're autistic and then they
associate autism with shame or they
associate autism with their worst
moments. These are the kind of things
that we need to to bear in mind and
unfortunately a lot of the quote
treatments for autism are very fear and
shame based. You know, ABA
is controversial because it tries to
make a person look neurotypical and it's
quite quite uh harmful for a lot of
people uh you know even even the modern
ABA because it it tries to make autism a
person feel shamed about the autism and
that that those that is adversive. So
for a child to to be made to feel
shameful for who they are and and in
constantly bombarded with with sensory
assault is just it's adversive and and
you're absolutely right that
it's not the it's not caused by the
vaccines or or by anything else. But uh
it is
but it's just that a person on the
autism spectrum. Oh and the other thing
is in schools a lot of people are also
children are also bullied a lot and that
that's adversive. I was homeschooled so
thankfully I didn't have to go through
that but a lot I've heard of a lot of
people who who've gone through a whole
lot of bullying
and and from being in you know in
school. So yeah, it's
it's a a you need to be working with
autistic people and and that was one
community, the autistic community. I
would suggest working with a fora
autistics for autistics and also y youth
alliance for intersectional justice um
to work more on neurode divergent
community.
Okay, thank you very much, Nicole. Any
questions for Nicole? Seeing none. Um,
okay. Uh, we're going to take in-house
to directors. Any questions of staff?
Council Bravo?
Um I just wanted to follow up on the um
uh deputation from uh school trustee
um about the uh produ the collection
production and use and publication of
the learning opportunities index and
just to quickly ask um how it is used
and uh by Toronto public health and um
whether it's important to ensure that we
have that data to assess uh whether our
interventions are where they're needed
and how whether they're um delivering
and succeeding
>> to you Mr. Chair. Thank you very much
for the question. Um we do use um
learning opportunity index to um assess
where the greatest need is in the
community. We use it together with a
number of other uh data sets and Toronto
Public Health takes a proportionate
universalism approach to providing
services in schools and that helps us uh
together all that data helps us
determine where we should be providing
more intensely uh services to the
schools with the highest need.
>> Thank you. And uh in terms of uh
significant new programs, for example,
uh this the school nutrition program,
would it be helpful to have that
information to be able to for example
evaluate later as this is a population
level intervention?
I'm going to ask my colleague Myan to
just respond. Thanks.
>> Hi. in terms of for the school-based S&P
based programs initially uh if you
recall pre-expansion there was limited
funding opportunities. So as such when
those funding opportunities were there
we were basically essentially using that
index to say who would be lack of a
better term deserving of those funds
opportunities. As we moved to universal
for phase one and phase two we tackled
it from an LOI approach as well as
school readiness to maximize the
efficiency of the funding opportunities
we received. As we move through phase
two, phase three, and now as we go to
phase four, the LOI is becoming less
critical as we're moving to universal.
So, every school is going to get that
program. Um, when we look at future
opportunities, is there a means where we
can return to an LOI to look at
different opportunities? For sure there
is, but for now, uh, it was basically
pre-expansion for phase one and two as
well.
>> So, it's been helpful in terms of
identifying, uh, need in the past. Um
but and if there is uh opportunities for
the future, we would continue to rely on
it. Thank you.
>> Okay, that's it. Okay, thank you. Uh any
other questions? Uh do Dr. Zo?
>> Um thank you both for your informative
presentation. Um I've actually
personally referred some of my patients
to the um healthy babies healthy
children program and they found that the
um uh lactation consultant services to
be extremely helpful. Um I guess my
question is uh how do you um screen uh
people for the um perinatal adjustment
program and for the healthy babies
healthy children program? Is it done at
the hospital level like when a child is
born the obstitricians will identify
individuals at risk or um is it usually
screened by their family physicians? Um
and I asked this because not very many
family physicians know about the
program. I happen to know about it
because I'm on the board, but um what is
being done to identify more um
participants in this very helpful
program?
>> Thank you, director. Uh to the chair.
So, healthy babies, healthy children is
a universal program. We do aim to reach
every single child um that is born. uh
and that is usually at the time of
hospital that they would complete an
initial screening that looks for a range
of um uh issues both uh from the mom
from the family situation from baby for
risk factors. If there's anything
identified on that screen um to indicate
either mood or anxiety disorder then
they would be referred to the parinatal
adjustment program to have a more
in-depth assessment and referral. We
know unfortunately we don't reach every
single baby um through the HBHC program.
we we're working with our hospital
partners to make sure we're getting a
better completion rate that we are
reaching um individuals then or
sometimes they you know did screen in
but then maybe didn't want the program
and so need to kind of re-enter and
that's certainly you know we we would um
HPHC can go up to three years old and
beyond. Uh so so providers who maybe
they forgot about it and they want to
re-refer they can re-refer but we do try
at that um initial assessment through
that that first screening to identify
families who might be eligible for the
perinatal adjustment program.
Um just a quick follow-up question. So
sometimes I have um delivered babies who
come from moms who might um use opioids
or um babies with like fetal alcohol
syndrome. And so in those situations, if
they if the physician identifies there
is a need um would the physician inform
the social worker to uh refer to this
program or what is the I was just
wondering what is the process of um
getting connected
to the chair. Uh so the perinatal disput
program is is particularly focused on um
mood and anxiety disorder. So it doesn't
we don't have the complexity we don't
have physicians on board to handle
substance use. Um, so they could refer,
but but we typically would be looking
for helping families make other
referrals to more specialist programs
for substance use care. Uh, we do have a
number of hospital partnerships um, who
have more perinatal uh, specialist care
for more complex mood or substance use
disorders because that's certainly
outside of the scope of what our our
nursing providers would be able to to
offer.
>> Got it. And just one final question just
for my own knowledge. Um, do you work
with with CAS? um is that like a source
of referrals for you guys
>> to the chair? Yeah, we we do work have a
partnership and and work closely with um
children's aid services um through our
children's partners as well. Uh
certainly, you know, our goal is really
to work with families and that's not um
the first place we we uh typically have
families enter the the program. Um we we
like to be able to identify, you know,
all families. We're trying to screen
every family to see where they might
need it. Um some of the families we work
with do um are involved with children's
aid services. Unfortunately, you know,
many of the families who come through
our homeless at risk pregnancy program
um uh have involvement with children's
aid services as well. And we do help to
try to support those families as best as
we can through that entire process. But
I'll turn it over to our u director if
you want to add further.
>> Yeah. No, I think you you covered the
majority of it, but a lot of the work
that the uh teams do across healthy
babies healthy program and the parinatal
adjustment program is really through uh
partnerships and building those strong
referral pathways. So, we put a lot of
emphasis on uh building those so we can
direct um people that need more clinical
intervention as quickly as possible uh
into the system. And I'll just add that
in terms of the um healthy babies
healthy children program while we do
screen uh everybody and we try and
identify the highest risk we also do
send uh communications to all families
that we do get receive a screen for.
That way they are connected should
something uh come up uh down the road in
terms of requiring additional supports
or questions about uh other things as
parenting takes a different uh its own
journey. Uh they would be able to
connect back with Toronto Public Health.
>> Great. Thank you.
Okay, thank you. We'll now go to Council
Jones Lynn and then Council Thompson
after that. Go ahead, Councelor Jones.
>> Hi, thank you for the presentation. Um,
I just had a a slightly I want to go in
a slightly different direction. Uh, in
the report there is a discussion about
monitoring cell phone use. Um, and I
wanted to inquire because we're we're
starting to see more and more very
serious concerns raised around cell
phone addiction. Um, not just around
young people, specifically around young
people, but also in adults as well. Um,
and the dangers also associated with
social media, but leading to adverse
effects in terms of mental health and
well-being among young people, uh,
depression, anxiety, etc. So, I just
wondered if you could speak a little bit
more broadly as to how Toronto Public
Health is approaching this, whether
you're working with the school boards um
or the Ministry of Health in and you
know, the Ontario Ministry of Health
around this and I just wondered uh if
you could expand, I guess, a little bit
on beyond sort of the monitoring what
we're doing.
>> Uh to the chair, thanks for that
question. Uh we did add um at a previous
uh board of health meeting when we
presented on our school partnerships and
the renewal of our partnerships with um
the four Toronto school boards uh
looking at some of the foundational work
we want to do. We did add specifically
looking at um things like digital
health, social media use, cell phone use
as part of that work. So that is an
active conversation we do have with our
schoolboard partners as we meet with
them quarterly to really look at the the
impacts of this. Um other ways we can be
supporting um their implementation of
things like cell phone bans in schools.
Um how we could be also sharing
information to school communities about
ways that they can prevent um harms at
the individual family school and also
societal level. We certainly worked with
groups like Unplugged Canada um who've
been championing uh a number of of ways
that we can be really thinking about how
to mitigate some of the impacts of
social media and um digital technology
use for for children for younger
children. Uh so we have a number of
initiatives underway um that was through
a board direction from the fall on this.
Uh but I will also just turn it over to
um our director if they want to add
anything else we're working on. have
been covered.
>> Yeah, I think there's um other uh
interventions that we're doing to also
increase aware awareness. So,
incorporating key messages and raising
uh awareness about some of the um
impacts of cell phone use and some of
our parenting programs uh directly with
uh families as well as we're building
out the um our sedentary um uh sorry
movement strategy. So encouraging people
to get more active uh sharing messages
around um the importance of uh
monitoring cell phone use and digital
use.
>> Any further questions, counselors? Um I
I guess I would just also add to that
one of the other areas that I think we
need to be paying attention to and I'm
I'm suspect you are um but is uh
gambling addiction particularly um as an
online harm because we certainly see
that as an um a rising addiction issue
particularly with boys. Um, and so I
guess I'm I'm looking to see more of
that in the future here. Uh, just
because I am extremely concerned about
that and and I think we need to be um
monitoring but also going beyond to see
how we can partner and and make sure
we're making a dent in trying to uh
trying to address these really critical
issues that are affecting our young
people.
>> Thank you. Uh, Council Thompson.
>> Uh, yes. Thank you and good morning, Mr.
uh chair and everyone. Uh Mr. Chair,
it's not often that I read a report that
just um really makes my heart uh feel
amazing and and I'll say the word giddy
uh because of the focus here on children
and diversity and so on. Um I just
wanted to ask a series of questions, but
what I'd like to do with your
permission, Mr. Chair, is just to ask
the questions all together. There's
probably about four or five of them.
I'll maybe just narrow it down to four.
It's a collection of questions and I'll
give staff the opportunity to respond as
they see fit. But before I do that, I
just wanted to thank the staff for um
amazing an amazing report and Dr. Murphy
for her leadership and so on. This is
just really really important stuff quite
frankly. So my first question will be
you know how will the success in
preventing and um mitigation of uh ACS
be tracked um and the second question
again I'm asking all the questions
together and the staff can respond
accordingly what ind what indicators uh
are we looking for to understand the
improvements in uh child um health and
outcome across the city and further what
researchers what research are we you are
basing this information on how will the
stats be collected and then um I also
wanted to understand uh do we have
category categorizing categorize
information stats based off on ward
breakdown and in order to help us to
better understand the needs of children
in specific uh areas across the city and
then to compare them because I would
imagine that there are some unique
differences in as much as we're a large
city and so on. And then finally, what
outcomes have been achieved previously
through partnerships that demonstrates
the impact and promoting proactive uh
childhood experience? It's a collection
of questions I've asked. I'll just leave
that for the staff to basic basically
answer it in in a in a broad way and I'd
appreciate that. Thank you, Mr. Chair,
and thank you to the staff.
>> Thank you for the questions to the
chair. Um I'll try to I think I captured
them all. So I think the first one is a
really important question um because
it's not easy because it's not easy to
to measure both how are we doing and
changing um the number of ACEs that
children might be experiencing but also
I think more importantly is how are we
measuring the impact of this and are we
actually showing that children are more
resilient moving into the future. We
can't prevent all ACES. We know that.
But how do we show that the
interventions are making children more
resilient and and and bending the curve
on some of the long-term health outcomes
that we have? So, we do have a number of
surveys um that we look at uh on a
regular basis. So, things like the
Ontario student drug use mental health
survey um that's connected through CAMH
regular basis. We have um school
behavior surveys that are uh regularly
reported on. We did just hear from the
trustee in terms of things like um the
school climate survey which uh you know
is is a very important survey to us as
well. Uh we don't always we don't get
the data from that but we certainly are
able to discuss the results of that with
our our school partners. We would love
to be able to get the data from the
school climate survey to be able to have
that especially if it was to continue or
a version to continue into the future to
say you know how on a more real-time
basis um you know does every child in a
school have a trusted adult in the
school that they could feel like they
could talk to you know do they you know
how do we actually sort of measure in
that real-time way the kinds of
resilient supports that would make a
difference and then hopefully start to
see a shift in some of the mental health
outcomes um that we're seeing. We know
that we had you know really negative
trajectories through the co pandemic in
terms of seeing a declines in youth
mental health and I think you know
embracing the strategy is not going to
change overnight but but how over the
next years we can start to see that the
the investments we're making in in
children and youth now start to improve
some of those outcomes that children do
feel more supported that they have
better access to care that we can start
to see those those improved pathways
that that people are not um you know
waiting for services in the same way
that they have
So I think that that's an important
question and I think certainly an area
we we continue to work with a number of
partners on. We did have that um uh
research salon with a number of
academics to help us think through um
some of the the ways we can continue to
to measure that. Uh in terms of the word
breakdowns um we are always trying to
get data as local as possible. So we
have been working with our colleagues at
social development um in their space to
look through um the ways we can combine
many of the different uh data pieces
that we have. You know looking at things
like justice um family settings violence
uh different factors to have that as
hyper local as possible. Not everything
can be um local. We did recently invest
in a survey to look at the prevalence of
ACEs in Toronto and unfortunately we
didn't get the the sample size to be
able to to to look at some of the
results in as narrow way as we'd like
to. So we are going to still continue to
investigate how we can do that better to
try to get um more local information.
But but what we do have we're certainly
working with as many partners we can to
to answer that. And I think a good
example of, you know, an outcome of
partnership where we've seen real
success on this and and where, you know,
where we're going forward, um, is the
work of what we've been doing. We had a
really successful presentation of the
ASES framework with our safetto table
um, and really being able to share with
all the partners there, you know, the
importance of understanding the the
impact of ACES and a resiliency
framework. And we saw, you know, a shift
that that that folks and the TCHC, for
example, were now really, you know,
thinking differently about how they're
responding to calls when they have um
crisis calls within TCHC and and
recognizing, you know, what if there are
children in that home, how are they
thinking about providing support so that
that's not a traumatic experience or if
there has been a traumatic experience,
how are they connecting those families
to to better respond to um to the family
needs in those situations. So, I think
we're seeing some real shifts in the way
that um our city partners are practicing
as well.
>> Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
>> Thank you. Uh councelor Chang, go ahead.
>> Thank you, Chair. Uh I have just a few
questions.
Do we measure ACEs in our vulnerable
intake? So when people are getting harm
reduction or when they are receiving
service in our shelters, is there a time
where we have conversations with our
clients uh about ACEs and the potential
impact on their lives and and therefore
potential pathways of healing?
>> Thank you very much for the question to
the chair. um uh there is not a
systematic a way in which um we assess
for ACES as part of our harm reduction
um and clinical activities currently.
Certainly in the course of you know the
engagement we have in the client these
things may arise and you know as
appropriate we you know do have
processes in place to ensure referrals
to the right you know um place to
receive for further support but um you
know certainly we could um take that
back and take a look at how that might
be done in a more structured manner.
At what age do you think it would be
helpful for people to realize the
impacts of adverse childhood experiences
they may have had? Because not all
people have grown up with this lens, but
certainly many people have gone through
these type of experiences.
>> To the chair, I I would have to take
that back and sort of say, you know, is
there a specific age? I think what
we're, you know, part of what the
framework really tries to promote is is
a whole of society lends to this that
this is not something that, you know,
families can do. This is not something
school can do. This is not something
just a single community do. But we
really need all partners to understand
and embrace um how how much adverse
childhood experiences has an impact on
lifelong trajectory and and so I think
through that that whole society model
there's there's sort of different levels
of awareness of this. So, as younger
children, you know, sort of understand
it and hear about it, um that they, you
know, will have more of a readiness as
they get older to kind of rethink about
um experiences that they've had as real,
I think, really leaning into the
positive experiences and how we can
really support those types of ways of um
of of supporting resilience, developing
resilience to having um better pathways
for for families to have a better
outcome. And so, I don't know that
there's a specific age. can we can take
a look at that but I think really
embracing the the whole of society
component to it.
>> Is there a suggested tool for assessment
that people could use uh to understand
the impact of ACEs on their lives?
>> Uh to the chair. So as as mentioned we
recently did conduct a survey in
partnership with public health Ontario
and other um health units to to try to
get a better sense of ASUS and we
actually did have a lot of deliberation
in developing this tool. There's there's
um a real mixed feeling in terms of um
the experts in this field as to the best
way to ask about ISIS without
ret-raumatizing individuals even as
adults that um you know asking these
kinds of questions can be very um
triggering, very uh difficult to answer,
feel, you know, that this is a a
difficult thing that people don't want
to participate in. um and really how do
we ask those questions in a way that
also balances asking about their
positive experiences so that we do get a
more wholesome picture of an
individual's experience. So we we did
have a a long runup to how we ask those
questions. Um and I think that there's
still probably a lot of ongoing research
we need to do to be able to really think
about the best ways to to um measure
this and monitor it going forward.
>> So there's no public facing tool. if
somebody who you know was thinking hm I
wonder if this impacts me there's no
public facing tool where they could do a
self assessment
so to the chair we do have information
um available and and I think the the
early introduction um of the uh Ontario
adversity framework does do a nice job
of explaining what ACEs are so things
like physical and emotional abuse things
like parental separation things like
having a parent who's been incarcerated
ated things like parent who has a
serious mental health or substance use
disorder. So I think talking about what
they are is a way of people can
recognize in themselves what types of
ACEs that they may have experienced um
in their life without necessarily having
them to to respond in a way that's that
you know is triggering or or trying to
collect it in a in a too narrowly
defined way that that uh you know just
boxes their experience as opposed to the
more wholesome understanding of their
intersectionality of experience. I have
just one last question. Uh, in the US, I
noticed that there's a few organizations
that actually focus on this issue. The
American Society of Positive Care of
Children, ACES Aware, and the Hope
National Research Center. And I'm just
wondering if there's any parallel
organizations here in Toronto or in our
country that are focused on ACES.
I'm just checking with my colleagues
here. Thank you for the question. Um we
are not aware of any parallel
organization here. Uh we are excited
that the early adversity and resilience
framework does bring together a
community of practice to um share um the
latest research and evidence and and uh
share innovations as well and things to
try.
>> Thank you. Those are my questions.
>> Thank you so much. Um
>> director Madara, you have five minutes.
>> Thank you. Um, I wanted to echo what
everyone else has been saying about um,
the fabulous work that's gone into the
report. I really enjoyed reading it. Um,
I had some questions. One of the things
that I also really appreciated was the
focus on partnerships with indigenous
organizations with uh, First Nations in
Matate uh, communities within the city.
I actually have two questions. My first
question that I'm curious about is how
this work um reflects or embeds uh
indigenous determinance of health. So
I'm thinking of things like uh
connection to land, culture, language,
uh community. I'm wondering um how that
those determinants are being um embedded
in in Toronto Public Health's
understanding of the framework um and is
complimentary um and really like
embedded uh in the work that you're
doing in this area
>> to the chair. Thank you for that
question. And I I think all of those
things you listed are are really
wonderful examples of resilience. And
you know, if you saw the the graphic of
the the negative experiences and the
positive experiences and really trying
to champion things that are culturally
meaningful um to those families to say,
you know, being able to connect with
land, being able to connect with
culture, being able to re-engage with
language are all examples of positive
experiences that can help uh really, you
know, try to trans try to to rebalance
those negative experiences that might be
experienced from a history of
colonialism and a history of social and
structural determinance of health. So we
I think we do recognize, you know, the
importance of that and and similarly for
other cultures for for black families,
other equity deserving populations,
really trying to make those resiliency
experiences meaningful to those
families.
>> Thank you. Um my my second question was
around partnerships. Um, in in the
appendix there was a great section that
talked a lot about
um the partnerships that TPH has with uh
indigenous organizations and the work um
the way in which that work supports
addressing ACEs and supporting
resiliency in First Nations and Matei
communities in the city. Um that's very
very important. And I was wondering if
you could also speak to how Toronto
Public Health is also adapting our own
programs um you know supporting our own
workforce and the service delivery to
really ensure that it's culturally safe.
Um that it's providing anti-racist
service delivery that's aligned with the
framework. Um so thinking about of
course the importance of partnerships
but also that other piece around
ensuring that the services and the work
that TPH is delivering is also
addressing the needs of communities.
to you Mr. Chair and thank you for the
question. Um we have a couple of
examples of how we are trying to do this
in practice that I can share to help um
illustrate. Um one of the ways is uh we
often partner with an indigenous agency.
Um so for example um we have a we're
partner currently partnering with an
indigenous uh agency and uh working with
them to develop and design uh new
programming specifically to fathers. And
so uh through a fathering circus uh
circle it's called and so we're piloting
that project but it's in uh
collaboration with the indigenous uh
organizations that we're designing and
developing and evaluating how we uh
continue to deliver that service. In
terms of an example, in our schools,
we've hired two indigenous um nurses who
are specifically assigned to schools
that have high indigenous uh
populations. And for initiatives like
our ISPA program where suspension may be
a possibility um for students that
aren't in compliance, we engage with uh
the superintendent at that school
responsible for indigenous. We partner
with indigenous organizations to really
think through how we communicate,
approach, engage the families around the
uh importance of vaccination and really
design a slightly modified intervention
for what we may do in other schools. So
those are just two examples I'll
highlight and sorry I should add the
third is that we are doing significant
training around trauma-informed training
across all of our staff. We've already
trained approximately 350 staff. We've
also trained our people leaders to make
sure that our people leaders are
coaching, mentoring, providing advice
and guidance along the way. And that
program is going to be expanded across
Toronto Public Health. Um and uh in
partnership with other uh city
divisions, uh we're looking to continue
that work so that we're um providing the
best possible care possible. So those
are three examples, but some work
happening there.
>> Thank you. Um, I will ask questions
last. The good thing about being last,
most of my questions have been asked and
answered. So, so I actually have to look
and find other questions. Um,
so I do have two questions. The
pandemic, how does how does this impact
the ACEs in our city? Like again, it's
been a life once in a lifetime situation
that really has impacted young people.
So maybe you can speak to that somewhat.
>> Thank you chair. Uh I think the part of
the reason that there was such a desire
to bring forward the Ontario adversity
framework at this time after the
pandemic is because we recognize the
significant impact that um co has had on
family on society on on the the
children. We have seen through the
pandemic a significant increase in
intimate partner violence um which is
one of the main uh forms of first child
experience that that uh children can be
exposed to. We have seen increases and
worsening of parental mental health and
substance use through this period as
well. We've seen through the opioid
toxicity crisis a number of families
have lost family members um as being all
contributors to increasing risk for
children experiencing adverse adverse
childhood experiences through the
pandemic time. At the same time we've
seen through the pandemic uh a number of
positive factors because you know
sometimes families were at home. Uh we
saw one of the deputants show um the
data on suicide and we know that
actually suicides declined during um the
pandemic because families were at home
more often and be able to support that.
So mental health worsened but suicides
actually declined. Um so so there had
been some positive impacts of that as
well and I think some you know new ways
to connect with people. We did see an
advancement in technology and and
certainly there are harms with um cell
phones and technology but also new ways
of of accessing mental health supports
and resources that uh that we are
connecting. I think as we are coming out
of the you know coming out of the
pandemic we have restrengthened a number
of our services. So, um, programs like
healthy babies, healthy children, which
were interrupted during COVID, really
being able to restrengthen those, making
sure we're taking an equity lens and
delivering those services, um,
increasing things like our paranatal
adjustment program to be able to reach
families to to be able to help support
some of the impacts we've seen through
COVID, um, and the continuing impacts
that we're seeing now.
>> Wonderful. Um
it was mentioned that you work with
other divisions
uh within the city, but have you looked
and I know council Chang mentioned an
American state, but um have you looked
do you work with other jurisdictions
across Ontario and best practices, what
they're doing, what works, what doesn't
work, because again I know we have these
borders around regions, but we're all
Canadians here.
Um yes, thank you for the question. Um
we do work with other jurisdictions. So
we know that Vancouver um also has an
early adversity and resilience
framework. Uh we've uh they uh developed
theirs prior to us and we've uh adapted
a lot of lessons learned from their
experience. Um, and as I mentioned,
there's a a community of practice for
the early adversity and resilience
framework that has representation from
uh the 29 health units uh across the uh
province and that's where a lot of the
evidence research and uh and experiences
is brought together um and uh uh
recommend sorry application of how the
framework is applied is kind of
discussed in that forum. So we connect
regularly uh through that group as well.
>> Okay. Wonderful. Thank you. Those are my
questions. Um, okay. Seeing no other
questions, let's take it to uh speakers.
Who wants to go first?
Councilor Bravo.
Thank you. I have a motion and thank you
very much for uh to staff and for clerks
uh with your help. Um while it's
displayed, it refers to um the point
that um school trustee um uh Debbie King
raised in her deputation and I've been
hearing from parents and also from other
school trustees concerned
um about the continuing sharing of the
um indices of inequity
uh framed as a learning opportunity uh
and and the importance for the work of
Toronto Public Health in its um design,
delivery and implementation of um
interventions that promote health among
children and youth. I I really want to
congratulate staff for this report. I
felt as my um my peers did here that
it's an excellent piece of work to uh
bring together uh this information that
sets out for us and for members of the
public in Toronto uh the importance of
of uh these experiences that happen
before the age of 18 that can have a
lifelong impact on um mental health.
We've been so uh you know concerned and
as a board about a children's mental
health, children's wellness and all of
the different uh factors that harm them.
But the the the significant uh ones
outlined by the medical officer of
health I think need special attention.
traumatic events that uh shape um u a
life uh but also setting out the their
consequences um and then some of the
work that can be done to uh mitigate um
to prevent and to protect and so I I
feel as councelor Thompson said I was
excited to read this report grateful for
the work um and the importance of this
all being done in a data driven way and
um as uh as our colleague um uh director
Mador said done in partnership um in
deep meaningful partnership with
organizations that can look at the
layers of um exclusion inequity that
compound these experiences. So I I
really want to thank uh staff and um and
all the deputants that came today to
speak about the importance um and the
need to ensure that we have the best
outcomes possible. can't think of a more
important intervention that uh pays off
in the as for society is focusing on
children and I would love to see more
and more of our focus to be on children.
Um and perhaps we can inflect this into
the rest of society and certainly the
partnerships with other city divisions
are crucial as we refocus on how we u
ensure that we have a a better society
and better outcomes in the future. Thank
you. Thank you, councelor
Bravo. Well said. Um, councelor Chain.
>> Thank you, Chair. I too have a motion.
The motion is focusing on an increasing
knowledge and public awareness of ACEs
and resilience on strengthening data
collection and uh
Oh, this is part one of my motion.
Sorry. Okay. And then there's another
part.
We can just put that on the screen as
well.
>> There's a second motion.
>> Yeah. Which also uh reiterates what some
of the deputants mentioned about um
asking the Minister of Education to
preserve the school climate survey and
consider expanding it to include issues
raised in the Ontario Early Adversity
and Resilience Framework.
And uh I want to yeah also echo my
gratitude for this really important work
that puts into I think public knowledge
something that um I think more people
need to know about. And you know, we saw
that uh the Toronto Police Service put
out a dashboard on IPV last year and the
number of occurrences hovers around 15
to 16,000 for the last 14 years. Um and
in 2019, the research shows that 80% of
IPV victims don't report to the police.
So we know that the 15 to 16,000
reported is just a fraction. And the
impact of IPV
uh on children and that adverse
childhood experience is is proven and
profound. And so if we have a an IPV
epidemic, we have uh an adverse
childhood experience epidemic. And so
anything we can do to prevent both, I
think will have meaningful long range
impacts on people. And I just want to
share that this is very very personal
for me because I struggled u with
several aces in my upbringing and I did
not have the language and I didn't know
what it was. I only knew that in my 20s
I hit a a moment in my life where a lot
of things started to unravel. I had
mental health challenges. I had an
eating disorder. Um and I blamed myself.
So I thought hm how come everyone else
seems to be doing okay but I am really
struggling. Even though to many on the
outside I looked very shiny and I was um
still achieving publicly but internally
I was really really struggling. And one
day, you know, someone mentioned the
ACEs to me and I took a tool online to
assess myself and it just put all the
these things into focus. Suddenly the
struggles I had made sense and suddenly
I didn't have to blame myself anymore.
And I I think it's really um important
to note that you know we measured maybe
30% of adults um have ACEs in their life
but we are not sure it could be far more
because of the limits to how we collect
that data.
And
I think the impact of having ACEs is
that you are then limping.
you're limping for in different ways.
Some people it's addiction, some people
it's mental health, some people um you
know have health challenges, but you
don't know you're limping and you don't
know why you're limping. And that's why
I think bringing this into further
public awareness
um with you know the delicacy of not
retraumatizing people but empowering
people to say if you have aces in your
life which many people do there is ways
there are ways that you can heal that
you can be empowered and for me I
believe that the struggles that I went
through uh in my childhood
have really informed formed my
leadership, the way I deal with people,
the the way I want to see a more
connected community where people feel
empowered and people feel a sense of
belonging. These all have roots in the
challenges that I face. So having ACEs
is not a sentence, but it does bring
clarity and a pathway for people who
might be struggling and don't know why
they're struggling. So, I look forward
to a future report back on the progress
that we're making in this area and I I
look forward to strengthening
collaboration with other organizations.
I think it will have a profound impact
on the trajectory of many people's lives
as more people know about this and as we
build a more resilient society. Thank
you.
>> Thank you, Council Chang. Any other
speakers on this item? Uh seeing none as
again I'll just say thank you to staff
for this comprehensive report. I
actually learned a lot about ASUS. I
didn't know as much about it before. And
some of the things I went the questions
I wanted to ask was actually around LOI
and student nutrition and uh housing and
vision zero all the things the city's
been working on especially the food
nutrition program which is really
important. Um, and of course the SRO
program which impacts students uh
significantly again again indigenous
black students in in the school boards.
And I'm happy the TDSB actually took
steps to limit that program and I hope
other school boards do that as well. Um,
and with that being said, I don't want
to say more than has been said already,
but uh I I and again I support the
motions that's been brought forth by
councelor Bravo and and councelor Chang.
I think it enhances this um this uh the
recommendations here. And with that, I
will ask staff to put up the um
amendments.
Councelor Thompson, did you want to
speak?
>> No.
>> No. I was planning to vote, Mr. Chair.
It was good to have. All right.
Okay. All those in favor of council
bravo's motion opposed. Carried. Council
Chang's first motion. All those in
favor? Those carried.
Next and the last motion by Council
Chang.
All those in favor? Those carried.
Wonderful. Thank you so much.
Uh item as amended. All those in favor?
Those carried. Thank you. Great
discussion.
Okay. And the
last item
is item 32.1 promoting positive
childhood experiences to improve health
outcomes across Nope. That's what we
just did. HL 32.2 services agreements
awarded and executed by the Met Office
of Health for 2026. And we have three
speakers on this item. Uh Daniel
Fryheight online. Is he here?
>> Dad, can you hear me?
>> Can hear you loud and clear.
>> Okay, go ahead. You have five minutes.
>> How's my audio? Okay.
>> Yep.
Um, by the way, on that school climate
survey, I tried to that was there's a
copyright threat when the parent looks
at that survey, so they can't actually
discuss it or share it easily. Anyhow,
off topic, but I just thought to
threaten parents with copy trademark
infringement for publishing that survey.
Um, that was pretty weird. Um, my name
is Dan Fry, as most of you know. I do
some advocacy on Twitter, mostly uh,
sorry, under Lion Advocacy. Uh, I've
gotten I'm up to 38,300 followers. I get
around 78 million views on my posts of
um I've I wanted to talk today about the
issue of uh vaccine injury support. Um
the because I was looking at the budget
that the board has approved or is on the
verge of approving for other um other
items on the budget. Uh specifically the
health the sexual health clinic which is
getting 2.8 8 million um the the vac so
it's just about for my my presentation
today is really just about how to manage
priorities and how to manage the queue
because there are people out there
Torononians uh who've been waiting four
four to five years for compensation for
vaccine injuries and this is these are
not um myths these are in some cases ver
you know they're often verified um this
was had been managed by the federal
government uh from the beginning of the
pandem or from December
2020 uh up until uh April 1st of this
year, 2026, it was being managed by uh a
private contractor uh who was processing
the injuries or supposed to be
processing them, but the the the
contractor was really having issues
getting through them for some reason. I
mean, I think I know the reasons, but um
seeking a lot of documentation uh direct
control of the documentation. So asking
directly from hospitals and physicians
to have the documents uh go directly to
the assessor and so there are a lot of
people's injuries didn't get processed
um they just never went through. I
actually spoke to people at the vaccine
injury support program employees there
was a lot of turnover. There was a lot
one I think I mentioned this to this
board but one of the staff was
apparently having mental distress. I
think the point is this is a now the the
federal government decided to take it
over or that's how they pitched it. They
said we're going to take it over from
this private contractor because they
don't seem to be doing a good job.
And um what I just learned this a couple
week or a week or two ago from uh a
young lady who who advocates a lot on
Twitter, her name is Caleb Pollock, but
that the um this new uh processing by
the federal government, they haven't
appointed any medical adviserss to
actually look at these claims yet. And
that was um that's a major flag. So
you've got people four or five years
out, some with serious catastrophic
injuries that have mobility issues now,
that are in constant pain, that need
physiootherapy, that need medication,
and then medication is not cheap. Um
they're having they're struggling to to
get by. And so when I see these um
amounts that are being spent on um you
know uh birth control counseling and
lowcost birth lowcost birth control,
emergency contraceptive pills, interun
IUDs, free condoms and lube, uh vaccines
for for STI. I mean all that's
important, but I just wonder if there's
a better way to manage the queue. Um
like I say, these people have been
reaching out to me for years. I couldn't
talk about it on on internet because I
was censored. If I mention the word
vaccine or injury in the same sentence,
for some reason the AI or the sensors
took down the video and made it very
difficult to discuss um even even you
the reason why you're not hearing more
from vaccine injured people uh in this
board of health is because they had
difficulties mobilizing. They formed
face group Facebook groups that were
taken down. uh our friend uh Zuckerberg
at at Meta acknowledged under oath that
he was he had been working with uh the
US government to uh to restrict the
mobilization of people injured by the
vaccine. Uh that that's a serious
problem that's going to need addressing
at some point. But the point is the only
reason you're not hearing more from
people who've been injured by the
vaccine uh a is because some of them are
in a in a situation where they're not
able to get down to the board of health
or to uh have the energy to speak. Um,
thankfully I still got a bit of energy
left in me and that's what I'm doing. I
get uh I was contacted early on by a
conservative MP out west about
constituents in his writing um how what
to do but the how to help people with
vaccine injuries. The board of health
has a unique opportunity now with uh
some of the budget items of just uh
respectfully requesting a
reconsideration of of priorities and
queue management. So in other words,
we've got these people in the queue. the
board of health can actually work
strategically with uh public health
agency of Canada to process these
claims, streamline them and uh get
people the help they need.
>> Thank you very much. Any questions of
dependent? Seeing none, thank you.
>> Uh councelor Chenn
and uh can you please turn your camera
on for qu? Thank you. Um next up is
Council
Jon Counc
uh Arnold Marqueis
online.
>> Okay, go ahead. You have five minutes.
>> Yeah, good afternoon. Uh thank you for
the opportunity again to talk to the uh
board of health. Uh yet again today we
are hearing um concerns or of the
residents about the uh failure to
enforce the current indoor air quality
by the fun of public health. And uh to
that effect, I appreciate the chair and
the board on the uh session number 30 uh
uh that you uh actually purpose the uh
Toronto public health to provide a
comprehensive review by the third
quarter of this year. I just wanted to
suggest that review is not enough. they
also need to provide the uh uh
suggestions or the the proposals how to
actually improve the service not to
review only the status quo and in order
to do it the logical step is to run the
pilot right now on the basis of one of
the uh environmental health enforcement
units I would suggest a north York unit
because it's uh kind of close to north
industrial area I'm living at Battle
Street and along the corridor at night
there are some releases of politans from
the industrial um uh companies at night.
So uh and uh so uh I also suggest to
engage public uh just like MLS was
actively engaging public and acorn in
their meetings uh discussing the
property standards development and uh
also uh you know the MLS uh receive
Toronto development. Uh I'm one of those
residents concerned that you can easily
engage me and it would be to your
benefit. I'm I'm pretty sure about
So what are the components of the pilot
that I suggest? First is education. So
the inspectors are insufficiently
qualified to enforce indoor equality
based on my experience. I spoke to
University of Toronto and the
Metropolitan University professors about
the possibility to quickly develop the
curriculum for continuing education
program. and you can sign actually
contracts and they they would be happy
to educate uh fasttrack your inspectors
to actually enforce the current
standards in indoor air quality. So the
second thing is to identify suppliers
uh and equip uh the uh inspectors with
modern portable air quality measurement
devices. So current devices
insufficient. They measure particulate
matter but they don't measure volatile
organic compounds which are even more
essential for harmful effects on health
of bad indoor air quality in schools and
resilient buildings. Sometimes uh due to
uh you know negligence of the landlords
and management of schools and sometimes
intentionally to speed up tenants
turnaround.
So uh in that regard um
uh as you know the uh provincial public
health unit has an indoor equality
equipment loan program and your
inspectors should register sign
contracts and regularly loan their
devices when uh doing the inspections in
the building in particular within this
pilot project and uh uh that also
includes training Right. So they are
expected to train you your inspectors
how to use the devices. So the first
thing is uh the established cooperation
from with the provincial environment
enforcement units ministry of
environment conservation and parks. You
know they have Toronto district office
enforcing uh uh outdoor air quality.
They have a laboratory services branch
with a pretty good equipped labs with
mastoters
uh uh to allow analyzing outdoor
quality. You need to establish the
contracts with this particular ministry
in order to jointly inspect buildings,
schools and also overnight samples
should be left at facilities and then
analyze and minister of environment lab
at minimum post to you. So the fifth
step is establishing a night shift for
the pilot project and at least one
inspector should be working at night at
the pilot project uh unit and just like
uh MLS have let's say noise department
they work at night until 2:00 a.m.
because it's critical uh otherwise uh
you know it's it's not going to work the
the contamination often happens at
night. So the sixth step is uh uh uh
improve your complaints uh pro
processing because people will come with
this uh with suggestions how to improve
the process and uh I'm just asking you
to also engage
>> yes you're at time sir final thoughts
>> okay final thought is engage city
manager in order to develop a joint
policies how do you are going to work
with other enforcement departments
jointly to enforce indoor air quality
and I'm asking to uh you know to right
now to maybe to put a motion to vote or
to start this pilot project on on June
1st of this year. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. Any questions the
deputent? Seeing none um we we are on
the final item. I know Chistan that uh
councelor Johnston has to leave as well.
She's got an emergency call. But um we
had beer quorum. Um if councelor Chang
stays on, councelor Justin can leave.
Okay. Um but no one else can.
Nicole Curado.
>> Yes. Um I saying I was very very
concerned
about I was very concerned about uh one
of the people who they're
raising one of the places that they're
contracting with in particular. I'm
quite concerned about about um the
Planned Parenthood and I know that
there's a lot of myths about Planned
Parenthood out there, but
there are but I am quite concerned
because I looked them up and there's a
lot of misinformation on the Planned
Parenthood site. For one thing, they
said that the um Planned Parenthood is
used
to like like they said that that
an that an abortion expels a pregnancy.
No, it expels a dead fetus. Uh so
there's a lot of the misinformation.
There's no they're not really giving
women a lot of choices because there
aren't lists of of alternatives on their
website. They the city of Toronto and
when I Google abortion alternatives, it
just comes up with abortion clinics. And
the other thing is that's very
concerning is um well it says you know
talks about the abortion pill but it
doesn't say that there's actually
reversal for the first pill that will
stop the abortion from happening. They
they won't tell you that.
>> Okay. Is that it?
Well, no, I was trying to say that
there's a lot of concern about
that I don't think the city of Toronto
should be putting money into into uh
Planned Parenthood because they already
get enough money as it is Planned
Parenthood. They don't need money. They
don't need people's t such a
controversial organization does not need
tax people's tax dollars.
>> Yeah. Thank you so I don't I don't think
Yeah, I I would suggest giving money to
somewhere else.
>> They're a less controversial
organization.
>> Okay. Thank you for your deputation. Any
questions for the deputent? Seeing none.
Thank you. Uh take it in-house questions
of staff. No speakers. No. Okay. Thank
you so much. This is a
easy breezy one. Uh all those in favor
of uh the recommendations
oppose carried.
Okay. Thank you. And uh the final item
here is that um
I'm going to bring a motion forward to
excuse
one second.
I'll move a motion to excuse the absence
of um Director Charles Oz not in
attendance today.
Now I'll read it
that the board of health excuses the
absence of uh Ab's two people here.
Abanita Chandalan and Charles Oday from
the May 4, 2026 meeting of the board of
health. All those in favor carried.
Thank you. Thank you every staff. Thank
you to my uh colleagues around the table
and to all the deputants and those
online. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you everyone.
>> Mr. Shut here. Have a good day everyone.
>> Thank you.