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Council Addresses Housing, Flooding, Transit - 23 Sep 26

Ottawa · September 24, 2026

Can the interpreters please do a 10 count on the English and French channels please. French Channel 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Hello. So, hello. We'll begin in one minute. So, good morning on behalf of the city council of I would like to know about the nations whose culture and presence have nourished and continue to nourish this land. The city of Atawa pays homage to the people and territory of the Alganquin Nation in Nichnabé. We express our gratitude to all the people of the First Nations, the Inuit and the Métis for their precious past and present contribution to these lands. If you can rise for a moment of personal reflection. So stay standing, I want to ask the idiot to introduce those who are going to sing the national anthem. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good morning. It is a great pleasure to welcome some very special guests from my neighborhood, students from Heritage Public School in Naven under the guidance of their teacher Shelby Wilson. The music program was uh again uh put into practice and I had the opportunity to see or participate in a performance of the orchestra last year. It's good to allow these students to represent their school and the town of Naven. Let's welcome [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [applause] Thank you very much. Now call the roll. Hello Hill Coun Curry Kelly present King here coun tr here coun leer coun brington here counard here coun car here coun kits here counski here brown councillor counc you have leum Mr. Mayor So adoption of minutes uh so for the meeting of September 9 adopted. Are there any declarations of interest? [Clearing throat] So, communications, the agenda, Councillor G will not be the motion to present the report, the clerk, that finally, report number 34 of the built heritage committee, the municipal clerk's report entitled "Summary of Public Written Observations on the Responses to the Requirements of Involvement in the Law," be adopted. So, 10. Review of the Opposition to the Designated Life Intention, property located at 575 Allen Park Crescent, adopted. 10. Heritage Easement, Saint Mark Street United Church, adopted. 103. 1485. 1495. Heron Road, application for a heritage permit, adopted. So now the agenda by approval is blocked. There are no questions. Yes, closed. So, following the motion to adopt reports, Councillor KS, while report number 34 of the built heritage committee, the municipal clerk's report, "Summary of Obligations," will have the public written [Clearing throat] on the management issues subject to the requirements of application of the laws of the, at the end of the law, the land-use planning is adopted, then the motions for which an opinion has been given previously. Trump Avenue name change, Councilor Brockington. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. A few comments first of all, I would like to thank Councillor Ter for supporting the motion. I appreciate his support. So, this is a new beginning for the residents of Trump Avenue. As you know, Ashcroft built the Central Park area in the late 90s, early 2000s and Central Park eventually followed a New York theme many streets uh finally are named uh based on New York names since my arrival uh my arrival finally there have been several requests from residents of Central Park and Trump Avenue who would like the City of Ottawa uh change the street names. This wasn't something that was important to me before, when I arrived. The city was in the process of resolving, uh, the duplicate street names. There were nine duplicates when, at the time, we changed the name of one street and changed the numbers of another street. So I have experience working with residents to find a solution. But at this point, no, it's a process led by the city. So I could talk to you for a very long time about why we need to, uh, we need to change our name. This is a new beginning. I want it to be a process led by the community, by the neighbourhood. It is the neighborhood that must recommend the new name. The motion is very simple. You are being asked to make a decision, namely, that we are going to change the name. Secondly, which will have a public consultation process composed of 4-5 residents. We're going to look at the options that mention New York. So also, finally, also names that have nothing to do with the city of New York, and there will therefore be a set of names that will be proposed to the residents and the residents will vote on them . We need to maintain unity, we need to talk about it, we have time, we finally have the time necessary to do it. [grunt] So Mr. Mayor, the time has come for the city to change the name of Trump Avenue. I would appreciate your support in launching this process today. THANKS. 152 municipal votes of support were adopted for a national plan to reduce and eliminate homelessness. The stupid plant is not with us today. This is supported by the Trust that is there. Adopted by Councillor Cavona, item 153. temporary financing of the Tawa community housing society for the reflection of fixed assets. Madam, Madam Councillor, you have the floor. The Taroin Community Housing Corporation is a public entity and the city must invest $5,000 per household to maintain 15,500 homes. So most of the units are on average 55 years old. Building new housing is important, but maintaining existing housing is also important, and repairs support the city's 10-year plan to combat homelessness by investing in affordable housing so that housing is available for current and future tenants. Maintaining housing ultimately allows us to maintain safety and carry out structural repairs. The city's funding allows the company to finally seek funding for the repairs, but we know that a partnership is needed at all levels, uh, all levels of government. It's a very, uh, very simple motion. It's a question of funding and it will therefore allow the company to carry out the necessary repairs quickly. I simply wanted you to understand the reasoning behind the motion. The advisor of the rocks. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I support this resolution. A few questions for the staff. We have good housing providers who offer community housing such as NP Housing and other religious groups that do the same thing. Why is it only available to the company? Why is this not available to Housing, which is also a time management organization that could ultimately benefit from this app? because of municipal laws and housing laws. So we are a municipality and we do not have the right to finance private entities and under the housing law, the company is ultimately exempt because we are the owner. Have we set any conditions? Did the board of directors set any conditions? I had outlined the list of repairs to be done, but I think we should focus on renovations, building new units as well, and not concentrate on administration. We had an idea beforehand about what these funds would be spent on. We have a board of directors who will receive this information, but I would like it to be allocated to the community and to meet needs. I know that when you apply for municipal funding, it's a competitive process, it's a contest. So, Mr. Mayor, [grunt] it's exclusively for repairs. This is not funding for exports or for administration. It's really, uh, uh, finally the council approved, uh, the use of these funds for infrastructure. We finally agreed to dip into municipal funds to finance the repairs. This motion gives the city the opportunity to finance these repairs. This is not temporary funding for operations. That answers my question. I hope we can repair the units as quickly as possible so we can reduce the waiting list. Thank you very much, Mr. Advisor. And adopting 4,154 contributions from the city of Taawa, the Canadian Red Cross appeal for residents affected by the July 2026 floods. We changed the first resolution to change the deadline and sadie until the Canadian Red Cross finishes its campaign. I would like to thank Councillor Johnson for supporting this motion and adopting it. So, motion demanding direct suspension of proceedings, Councillor Cabana has a motion seconded by the medical councillor on the expansion of the compensation program for damages caused by natural disasters. Madam Councillor, given that on July 1st, 2026 the floods caused a lot of damage. So the quantities of PU varied in Ottawa during the clothing period. Some areas received more than 115 mm of rain. So finally, the rainfall intensity was concentrated in the center and southwest of the city. More than 7500 households and residents continue to have to deal with the impact of flooding stemming from the July 1, 2026 floods. The province has activated the disaster relief program for a small number of residents in the Stwater and Graham Creek areas. Given that the eligibility map excluded several neighbourhoods that were hard hit in Crystal Beach in Ottawa's west. Since activating this program for a small Ottawa neighbourhood, the city has continued to work with provincial officials to provide information to support the expansion of the eligibility map to include more neighbourhoods. given that extreme weather events, including intense wells, continue to intensify. Whereas municipalities across Ontario are experiencing the impact of extreme events, including the city of Ottawa which experienced a 100-year storm consisting of 150 mm of torrential rain on September 2, 2026; whereas action is needed at the federal and provincial levels to support municipalities in their response to these increasingly severe events. given that the current parameters for eligibility for the program do not reflect the reality experienced by residents. that it be resolved that the council request staff to work with other municipalities in Ontario to request that the province review the eligibility for the program to better reflect the experience and needs of affected residents; that it be further resolved that the municipal clerk send a copy of this resolution to the Premier of Ontario, the provincial minister responsible for preparing the response, the Association of Ontario Municipalities, and the Federation of Canadian Municipalities as well. So, I can tell you that after experiencing the floods, after seeing the damage caused, it was shocking to see the map that was published. I was in Crystal Beach at the time when someone showed me this map; it was like they had been forgotten, and it was a neighborhood where every house was affected. I would like to thank the staff who helped me draft this motion Aen Pro and Ryan Bell and I would like to thank them for their work that we continue with the province to review the eligibility map I wrote to Premier Ford in July to express my concerns about eligibility the program boundaries do not recognize the impact of the flood in Ward B and in the ward of my colleagues across the city. Since July, I have been working with the Otaro West Nin provincial member of parliament as well as with residents to request that they claim the expansion of the borders. Thousands of people or residents of Ottawa have been affected. So uh we based ourselves on uh geographical boundaries which do not reflect the reality of the storm, especially in Christ Beach where almost all basements were flooded and all these uh but they were excluded. This motion asks the province to review the parameters governing the program for this event. For future events, the most intensive ones could therefore lead to a serious flood. The programs need to be there to help the residents. I will continue to fight for the residents who are trying to cope with the emotional and financial costs. The Johnson concern. Thank you, Mayor. I would like to thank my colleagues for introducing this motion. I would like to thank the staff who are working diligently to negotiate good ways with the provincial government. I know that we have made several representations to the provincial government to demonstrate the need experienced by residents excluded from the map. It was uh difficult for the residents who saw a river fall from the sky to be disqualified. So being excluded from the program, we have a plan, uh, finally, which is in effect for floods caused by the Tawa River. And I often get calls asking for help. Residents, uh, do not understand their future situation. Then winter comes, there is no insulation in their basement and people don't know what to do. So, private markets don't help people. Insurers have not helped all residents, and that is where governments must defend residents. The provincial government is part of it. Everyone is a resident of Ontario and we all deserve in these times to know that the provincial government will support us, help us. I think that by making this public appeal we will finally encourage the province to understand that when 167 mm of rain falls on a city, that constitutes a natural disaster. Thank you, Councillor Curry, you have the floor. Thank you, Mayor. I would like to confirm with the staff that all areas of the city have had flooded houses. Is that it? Yes, Mr. Mayor. Okay, very good. So it's important to remember that every neighborhood has experienced flooding, whether it's thousands or hundreds or just 25 houses. Regardless, the challenges are real for all residents who have been flooded. And as for exclusion from the compensation card, we are asking to exclude all other neighborhoods. I hope that in the communication to the province, to the provincial government, it is said that this has affected all neighborhoods, this needs to be specified. I agree with my colleagues, people have objects that are damp and dying in their basements. We are talking about rented units where management companies are not providing for people in Canada who still do not have a boiler. So, uh, ultimately we estimate that it costs approximately $70,000, but we will only compensate them up to $30,000. So there is a gap of $40,000 in lost revenue. When speaking to LAMO or the provincial government, it must be clearly stated that all neighborhoods have been affected by these floods. I just wanted to make that clear. Thank you, V's advisor. You have the floor. Thank you, Mr. President. So, I don't want to say too much because my colleagues have clearly intervened to raise my own concerns. I agree with these concerns because I have visited people who are finally trying to recover. We shouldn't ultimately be talking about what should be covered by the provincial program, but I would like the staff to at least communicate very clearly about program eligibility. It's very painful. We still don't know what is covered. But something that annoys me the most is that if you look at the guidelines, it says that you can be covered up to a maximum of $250,000. And for many residences, this is ultimately a windfall, but in the end the program did not compensate anyone. At this point, city staff mentioned that the last time the program responded to a natural disaster, the total compensation for the entire city was $500,000. So it's very misleading in the end that the program promises to pay up to $200,000. So, we need to ask for clarification on what is covered by the program and if they would like to increase it to $200,000. I agree with Councillor Johnson that the private market is not ready to act. The government must intervene, and now is the time to intervene. Councillor Brackington, you have the floor. Thank you for that forces the province to think more clearly and widely about how coverage is provided and who qualifies for coverage. Uh to counselor Curry's point, every word was impacted and um if you didn't live beside a swollen creek uh it doesn't matter. Your basement was still flooded, you still have tens of thousands worth of damages, and why should some people qualify for coverage and not others? Personnel are investigating to help us better understand, but in my neighborhood, water has crossed Hydroan corridors, sports fields, NCC fields, neighborhood streets have become rivers, and we have many other examples. Colleagues in the west of the city had small rivers that overflowed their banks. So, I think we need to distinguish between those who have been affected by a natural disaster. They must have access to these programs. I strongly support this motion because what we have learned and as we have seen in the people affected, in fact everyone has been affected but some people are eligible for assistance programs and not others. But everyone needs to be covered by this program. Thank you to the councillor for presenting the motion. Council, thank you Mr. Mayor. I know that the motion follows a very specific event and I want to thank the motion-maker for wanting this program to apply to everyone. The Dero was not the subject of an assistance program. Not at all. So it's a bit unclear for the residents. So in the future, I think everyone should be well aware of the eligibility criteria. Okay, adopted now, I have a motion seconded by Councillor Johnson regarding the disaster recovery assistance program . Therefore, the adopted regulation is suspended. As an explanation, the provincial government has a recovery assistance program for municipalities, but the damage must exceed a certain threshold, and municipal staff are compiling data to see if the damage incurred in the city of Ottawa as of July 1st falls within that threshold. But with this motion, we are going to ask here to delegate the power to the staff to continue their work and to submit a claim if [grunt] the damages are above the threshold. So, given that on July 1, 2026, the city of Ottawa experienced heavy rainfall over a short period with strong winds, which led to flooding following July 1. The city has therefore incurred infrastructure and property repair costs and expected that the disaster recovery assistance program helps municipalities recover from extraordinary expenses following a natural disaster and that the city will implement the program if the eligible costs of the municipalities are at least 3% of the total planned and expected that the city must present a council resolution within 120 days following the disaster and expected that the city is compiling the expenses incurred following July 1st once completed and if the 3% threshold is met, it will submit an application to the office of municipal services as soon as possible to meet the province's deadline. It is therefore resolved that if the city's eligible costs reach the 3% threshold, the council will ensure that the city applies for assistance from this provincial program. It is also resolved that the Director General and the Director of Finance and Integrated Services have the authority to verify and attest to the validity of the claim under the Provincial Assistant Program. Advisor Johnson. Yes, quickly. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. I was very happy to support this motion. I wanted to understand how the expenses were calculated. Are these expenses incurred as a result of the damage or the cost of repairs? Mr. Mayor, it must be related to the storm. As for the immobilization, it's for the replacement of what already existed. So, the restoration is... but if there are inflationary expenses, construction costs for example, we can submit a claim for what it has cost so far and not just the damages. Yes, that's correct. The cost is what it costs to repair and replace the notice of motion. Councillor Cy for a street closure. Whereas events can contribute to recreational tourism and the city's economic objectives, but can also lead to street closures that harm residents, businesses, farms, and places of worship. Given that a recent event required the closure of roads in West Carlton, March and North Canat and that the notices were given too late and access to certain areas was prohibited. Whereas residents and businesses affected by these street closures should receive sufficient notice to make the necessary arrangements for work or family activities, business operations and other commitments. Given that the impact of road closures can be particularly significant in rural areas where detours or alternative routes are scarce. Given that the local councillor is often best placed to identify access issues for the communities concerned, and given that these major events involving numerous street closures should include an access plan for residents and a traffic management plan before being approved. Whereas event organizers must have a permit sufficiently in advance to establish an access plan for residents and it is resolved that staff review complaints received from residents and councillors affected during these recent events, including the bike event and present recommendations to the appropriate committee to address the problems that have arisen and that specific requirements are added for advance notice to be submitted during special events to facilitate access to properties to rural sector communities with traffic at least 30 days in advance of the life of the proposed detours or street closures. and, where possible, provide opportunities for residents to provide feedback. It is also resolved that all staff participate in the necessary advance notice and if there are to be significant street closures and restrictions on access to properties and communities in rural areas. Thank you, Advisor Johnson. Whereas, starting in 2027-28, the city will undertake a reconstruction project in the BR sector and the reconstruction of Whitmore, Klein and Sherman, whereas the project limits the sewer and water pipe rehabilitation project in this sector on WHmore between Iris and Klein Crassin. and Sherman Drive and whereas certain particular driveway widths do not really conform to city regulations and whereas for existing properties, front yard parking restrictions and private driveways will be modified if complaints are filed and whereas residents of the area are willing to help residents who will be affected by the reconstruction of their driveway. It is therefore resolved that the council approve the reconstruction of WHmore CR Sherman Avenue and that the entrances be restored and returned to the same condition as they were before the work. Truster Advisor, thank you. Whereas the City of Ottawa and the promoter 1197692 Ontario Inc. concluded a memorandum of understanding establishing a framework for land swaps where 72 and 74 Pamea Streets would be transferred to the city in exchange for 80 Normund Street to create a neighbourhood park to replace the current Mcan Park . Whereas the owner of 425 Preston would offer 72 Pame Street and 74 Pame Street to the city and the additional 378,000 m² contribute to this park and whereas this transfer must be made whereas 85 Pamilla, which will be part of the future development under the memorandum of understanding, is in poor condition and is not habitable. It is expected that the demolition request will be submitted. It is therefore resolved that the council waive the demolition approval for 72, 74 and 85 Rupam and allow the applicants to proceed with the demolition. It is also resolved that the 72nd and 74th Pame streets will be paved, covered with grass and provided with landscaping and that the 85th Pamillard will also be fenced. It is also resolved that the exemption from the demolition application will be null and void if the work is not started within 2 years of the application. Given that Riverside South High School opened approximately 1 year ago and the city has received feedback from parents and residents regarding the 60 km/h speed limit. Given that several students have to cross Sprad Road to get to school. given that the speed limit imposed by the city has been in place for about 1 year and that it may be necessary to reconsider this limit. It is resolved that a limit of 40 km/h be imposed on the SPRAT road during school hours. It was also resolved that the cost of the signage would be financed from the traffic services budget. Are there any other notices of motion ? Motion to present the regulations. That the regulations listed on the agenda under the motion for the presentation of regulations be read and adopted three times . Ratification regulations. The following regulation should be read and adopted. Regulation ratifying the deliberations of the council of September 23, 2026. Adopted. Inquiry. Kitz Council. THANKS. Given the numerous concerns raised about electric scooters and bikes in areas where there are also pedestrians and vulnerable people, I wondered if the city could ban these bikes and scooters on trails and in municipal parks. What legal power does the city have to restrict or prohibit the operation of these electric vehicles on multi-use public trails and city trails? And if the council wants to proceed and ban electric bikes and scooters on public trails in municipal parks, what regulation or policy would apply and could staff identify options to limit such a ban? Thank you, advisor Kelly. In light of the numerous street closures associated with the bike race, many complaints have been raised from adjacent residents. Could the staff please answer the following questions? On what date did the city receive the request to hold this event? On what date was this event finalized? And on what date was the permit issued, and which municipal department, directorate, or official delegated the authority to approve this event and street closure, and what internal review and consultation took place before the permit was issued? What consideration has been given to the very limited availability of alternative routes in rural areas? Did controlled crossing points exist? And if so, where was it located and where could residents obtain information about it? What arrangements were made for reopening the roads once the cyclists had passed? And did the GFNY provide the city with an electronic copy of the traffic data notices ? What direct feedback was given by the organizer? On what date was this notice distributed? What methods were used? What geographical area was covered? Did the organization notify the city that it would send notices via Canada Post and/or deliver the notices door-to-door, and at what time did the traffic services receive the notice in question? Were there other processes besides those used by the organizer to give this notice of road closure? What mechanism exists if the organizer does not comply with the city's permit conditions? What criteria would allow the city to suspend or modify the permit? Please identify communications issued by the city prior to the event, including utility announcements , website notices, and social media notices. What other consideration was given to the blackout period when planning the city's communications? Were the traffic services and municipal communications aware of the areas that would be affected by the road closure? Does the city have a specific communication protocol for special events ? How many complaints, inquiries, or service requests regarding this trip have been received by 311 or traffic services ? And what were the main issues identified in the complaints? Has the city undertaken or committed to conducting a review following the race? What examination was conducted regarding prior communications and consultations prior to the race? Please also provide us, as part of your response to this inquiry, with the full description of the event permit, the approved traffic management plan, the approved resident access plan and communications, the advance notice plan, and all advance notice materials submitted by the organizer. THANKS. Are there any other inquiries ? Motion to adjourn the meeting and postpone the council's decision of the meeting of September 23, 2026. Adopted. [music] Hello. There we go. Hello everyone. Hello everyone. Thank you for us today's media to press each agency in alphabetical order to ask their questions. You may ask question with a followup alphabetized question. We'll start with David Fraser CBC. What are your thoughts on renaming Trump Avenue, and what message would you send to the US administration and how would you explain your decision to the city? But listen, I supported the motion. I understand why Councillor Brockington and Councillor Tyney introduced this motion. As I've said before, I don't like the idea of ​​having something named in honor of Mr. Trump who has done horrible things to our country, our city. So, as long as the residents, uh, the residents of this street are comfortable with the name change because they are the ones who will have to go through the whole administrative process that will follow. I'm American, I have many Canadian friends who live in the United States. And generally speaking, the relationship between our countries has always been very good. There are still some very beautiful relationships and friendships that exist, and that's what we need to focus on. We must continue to maintain these relationships despite the difficult period we are going through because we are receiving unprecedented threats from the Trump administration which is creating a lot of anxiety for residents and small businesses and all this tension and hostility is so unnecessary, we need to see how we can work together rather than perpetuating these threats and tariffs. So, this isn't my case. I have many other concerns on my mind. It is the responsibility of the federal government, which is handling the situation very well . I applaud the Prime Minister's efforts in everything he does. But for us, it's a question of how much time. If you ask the city's residents if they want something named in honor of Trump, the answer will be no. Since the idea was floated by Councillor Brockington a few months ago, what can you say about people's reaction to the possible name change? There have been strong reactions. I know that it has been discussed at the national level as well. So I support the motion, I support the name change. as long as the residents of this street agree. That's not my main concern. I have other fish to fry, particularly in response to the threats of customs duties. I must respond to economic issues that will have significant repercussions for Ottawa residents and the merchants of OTAwa. There are those who are directly and indirectly affected in Tawa, and many are also affected by this looming economic uncertainty . So I, I, I gave less thought to this name change. Rather, I want to ensure the resilience of the economy. I have reached an agreement with the Gâtino association for the creation of an economic region to eliminate the obstacles between our two cities. I am happy to support small businesses in the city. We need to work hard in the face of these tariffs and all these threats so that our economy remains strong and resilient. More and more people are buying local, buying Canadian, and that's what I've focused on everything. Yes. Yes. Uh, so uh, I support the motion to change the street name, but uh, my priority is to build a stronger, more resilient economy. I worked with the Marquy Bisonet de Gatino group on an agreement to create an economic zone in the National Capital Region. I work with small and medium-sized businesses to support them during this period of uncertainty and worry. Uh, there are several SMEs that are impacted by the tariffs directly or indirectly, and that are impacted by the uncertainty of residents, consumers, and their clients. So, we need to support businesses, we need to create a stronger, more resilient economy to, uh, to fight against these threats from Donald Trump. Can you explain to us exactly what will happen next ? What exactly does that imply? Well, after speaking with Councillor Brockington, we understand that he will be in charge of the process. The city has a commemorative naming policy and process. And for the time being, the councillor said he wanted to take charge of the meetings with the residents. So, we support him. We can support him in logistics and we will also present names that will be submitted. We will discuss it with the councillors, submit some names and the residents will be able to choose. This is what is generally done when there are two similar names. Residents are allowed to choose, and once a name has been chosen, the councillor will have the option of either presenting a motion to the municipal council to recommend the adoption of that name. That would be the preferred option, but he could also ask the staff to conduct a general public consultation and then present a report. We have a regular process to follow that we do for all commemorations. Hello Mr. Mayor, I wanted to ask you some questions about the disaster recovery assistance program. Can you explain exactly what the city hopes to achieve with this program? Well, I'll let the staff speak for more details. But from what I understand, when a disaster occurs in a municipality and the damages incurred exceed 3% of a given threshold, it depends on the amount of property tax collected each year. There are many details involved, and if it exceeds 3% of our annual tax base, then we are eligible for assistance from the provincial government. Municipal staff are currently calculating all the repercussions of this storm and if we exceed 3%, we can submit a request to the province and obtain reimbursement for part of the expenses. But if it doesn't spend the 3%, we would have to submit a request. THANKS. The 3% is roughly $67 million . So it's the property tax on the income . It's divided in two. In fact, there is the cost of, in fact, what was the city's response. Staff time is also included in that. This is the data we collect to fully understand the impact we have suffered. And then there is the fixed asset element, that is to say the damage incurred to the city for our assets. So, there was damage caused to some municipal facilities. for example in the west of the city for the second stage of the train. So these are all the calculations we need to do to see if we reach this threshold. I imagine you need precise figures before making a formal request. Yes, we should have a good estimate of the costs. Knowing that you have reached the threshold. That is the reason for the motion that was tabled today. We're going to Frédéric Pap, Radio Canada. Mr. Mayor, I would also like to do some poussin' on Trump Avenue with you. In the past, when Dog Ford did an advertisement in the United States that took a bit of a swipe at the Trump administration, Mr. Carney wasn't very happy. Did Mark Carney tell you, talk to you about what's going on here? Did he, uh, did he tell you not to do that? He gave you the green light on that. Do you have any direction from the federal government on this? No, I have never spoken with Mr. Carny about the street. OK, perfect. I was asking, I was asking the question. Mr. Chiné, I will wait for you regarding the procedure. Mr. Brockington told us clearly that what he's going to do is have a group of 3 to 5 people choose some possible names and then conduct a kind of survey with the residents. So what are the next steps in the process to get this brought back before the city council ? Uh, the advisor, uh, during his consultation, will receive, uh, three names. The staff offered to review those names to ensure they comply with our policy. It doesn't cause any problems with the emergency services responding to the fire, the police, and so on. After that, a decision would have to be made to bring a motion back to the council to recommend the chosen name or to ask the staff to continue the administrative process which would involve a broader public consultation and the creation of a report which would also be submitted to the council. So this part is not necessary. Mr. Brockington could simply say, "This is what the residents want." That's it. With a motion, that wouldn't be necessary. Councillors always have the option of naming either a commemoration or just a simple name that is not a commemoration by vote of motion. OK thanks. Thank you concludes the point of Thank you. Great.