time >> before or after discussion. >> I pro I promise if you're going to do it, it'd be after the delegation. >> Excellent. Thank you. >> Well, actually, you Yeah, you you can do it then or you can, you know, whoever if someone wants to move the main one. Uh that >> Oh, okay. The main one. >> See see where that goes. Uh give me one second. It looks like >> I think we're streaming. Hi, Stephen. >> Just want Yeah. Uh just trying to get the confirmation. Give me one sec. I think we are live streaming. So [cough] [clears throat] yeah. So uh councelor Sitz, we are live streaming. You can uh go ahead. >> Thank you. >> Good afternoon everybody and welcome to the September 3rd Heritage Richmond Hill meeting. This afternoon's meeting is an electronic meeting being held held pursuant to section 238 3.3 of the municipal act 2001. Please note that we have received regrets from committee member Annette ISA for today's meeting. The public had the opportunity to submit written correspondence regarding agenda items by email to the clerk's office. All written correspondence received by 12:00 p.m. noon noon yesterday was included on the agenda. Please refer to items 6.11 and 6.12. The public also had the opportunity to apply to appear as an electronic delegation either by video conference or by telephone by 12:00 p.m. noon yesterday and we received one delegation request who will be addressing the committee shortly. As chair of the committee, I will now call the meeting to order and ask for a motion from a committee member to adopt the agenda. Thank you, Barb. Thank you. I'm so moved by Vice Chair Barb Dero. All those in favor? Any opposed? Seeing none, that carries unanimously. Thank you. Are there any disclosures of pecuniary interest or the general nature thereof by committee members? Seeing none, thank you. Next on the agenda is agenda item number four, which is adoption of previous minutes. And as I always say, I trust that our committee members have read the minutes. And um if I could have a member of committee move uh to adopt the minutes that the minutes of Richmond Heritage Richmond Hill meeting HR0426 held June 4th, 2026 be adopted. Could I have a hand? Thank you. Committee member Anknes Parr. Are there any comments? Any does any member of committee wish to make any comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Seeing none, thank you. That carries unanimously. Okay. So, we are going to go straight to our delegations. We have one delegation here that's listed under 5.1. Jonathan Scott, Crest View, on behalf of the Richmond Hill Presbyterian Church, regarding the notice of intention to designate 100058 and 100066 Young Street, which is item agenda item 6.1 of our scheduled business. I see Jonathan on the screen. Thank you. Welcome, Jonathan. You have five minutes to address the committee. Please note that there are no questions backwards and forwards between yourself and the committee members as per our procedural bylaw. You may begin, sir. Welcome. >> Well, thank you, uh, chair and members of Heritage Richmond Hill. Can everyone hear me? Okay. >> Looking for a Yes. Sorry, I I don't know if you can hear me. >> The the committee can hear you. Y >> great. Thank you. Uh, as mentioned, my name is Jonathan Scott. I'm vice president at Cresview Strategy and I'm appearing pro bono on behalf of Richmond Hill Presbyterian Church. I've served as a two-term municipal counselor and on a particularly active municipal heritage advisory committee. I also have a personal connection to this matter. My father was the former moderator of the Presbyterian Church in Canada and my mother was raised in Richmond Hill. The church's position is straightforward. We are asking this committee to recommend that council refer this matter back to staff to refine the scope of the designation in consultation with the church. The congregation is not opposed to heritage designation in principle. It recognizes the historic nature of the church in Mance and understands the city's interest in protecting an important part of Richmond Hills built heritage. Indeed, these are beautiful and historic buildings cared for through the church's volunteer and charitable giving. This is not a property at risk of demolition, neglect, or redevelopment. It is an active congregation that has stewarded the property for generations and intends to continue doing so. So, the question is not really whether the property has heritage value. We agree it does. The question is whether the proposed designation can be made more precise, proportionate, and workable for an active place of worship. The church obtained an independent review from ERRA architects identifying technical corrections, drafting refinements, and scope issues that can be addressed. The city staff's report was finalized before that review is complete. A referral would give staff an appropriate opportunity to consider that material before the designation process proceeds further. There is also a significant financial and operational issue. The church is responsible for maintaining two substantial historical buildings. designation, if not carefully drafted, can add cost and complexity, particularly around roofs, masonry, windows, and other major capital repair. Replacing the church's existing slate roof, for example, is currently estimated at more than half a million dollars. That is a significant amount for a small church. Provincial guidance under the Ontario Heritage Act recognizes the need for special consideration and consultation for active places of worship, mindful of the charter right to freedom of religion. That is not an argument against conservation. It's an argument rather for a designation that is carefully tailored, realistic, and sustainable. The congregation is expected to preserve important public heritage features over the long term. If that's so, the designation should be clear about what genuinely warrants protection and how that stewardship can practically be sustained. The church received preliminary notice of the heritage process in May and has worked to respond over the summer involving the national church and technical adviserss. While there has been some communication, there has not yet been a substantive opportunity for the church and staff to work through the scope and practical operation of the proposed designation together. As you can appreciate, given summer holidays on both sides, the church is therefore asking Heritage Richmond Hill to recommend that council refer the report back to staff for further refinement and consultation with the church. Specifically, we are seeking a framework that directs staff to work work with the church on a designation that accurately reflects the technical record, focuses protection only on significant defining features that contribute to the public streetscape, clearly distinguishes the heritage attributes from later additions or non-original features, preserves appropriate flexibility for worship, ongoing use and stewardship and accessibility and maintenance, and is proportionate to the practical and financial realities of an active church. In response to a request from staff for more specific wording about what we were seeking, we presented a draft referral recommendation to the clerk. It is not intended to preempt the committee's discussion, but if the committee supports the substance of the church's request for referral, it may adopt that wording or substantially similar wording today. If then adopted by council, that referral recommendation would allow staff and the church to work through these issues collaboratively while preserving the city's ability to continue the designation process. It would also move the matter out of the immediate election period, allowing the work to proceed with greater continuity and attention. We hope the committee will recommend that council endorses that referral request today. Thank you for your time and consideration, and at the chair's discretion, I'm happy to take any questions. >> Um, thank you, Jonathan. appreciate it. Um okay. Um so we have a scheduled business before us items 6.1 which is staff report SRPBS 26059 notice of intention to designate 1058 and 1066 Young Street city files D12 07436 and D12 07438. Do I have a member of committee who would like to move this mo this uh these recommendations forward for discussion? Councelor Davidson, thank you. Councelor Davidson, as a recommener, you have the floor. >> Thank you and thank you to the delegate. Uh my first question to staff is were the was the process to designate the Presbyterian Church similar to the processes we use for every other property that we review for heritage designation. >> Uh through the chair >> through the chair council Davidson. Yes, it was the same process. >> Thank you. Sorry through you, Madam Chair. Um was this was this in any way rushed as opposed to some of the other ones that we've we've reviewed >> through the chair um councelor Davidson as um [clears throat] uh the delegate also mentioned the reports the research work that we had done were first provided to the church in May of 2026. So in our opinion, no. This was not a rushed job to say. >> Thank you. And is that the kind of time frame May, June, July, August, a three-month time frame standard in terms of uh working with a design? I I don't know what to call it. The three madam chair is that about standard about right three months to have discussions with the uh owner of whatever property we're looking at. So through the chair, it's in fact more time that we've given than some other properties considering it is a place of worship and there are um it is a more um complex um property. Therefore, we tend to provide a little bit more additional review time to the churches. >> Thank you. So you madam chair, was were the folks at the Presbyterian Church open to discussion? Was there open communication and opportunities for them to convey to staff what they were hoping for? >> Um through the chair uh we again we provided the reports back in May of 2026. We opened invitation for collaboration. We um there were collaborations had between the church and staff directly. Uh representatives from the churches is delegation today and the heritage consultants I believe were brought on at a later stage. So consultation with them did happen a lot more recently. Um so yes, >> so there was communication through madam chair between the church and staff. So there was opportunity for the Presbyterian church to tell you what they wanted. It's this is not necessar like what I'm trying to get at is deferring it's not going to change the outcome. you staff believe they have an overall uh view of why we're doing it, what we need to do, and kicking the can down the road. Will it substantively change the recommendations by staff >> through through the chair? Again, the the intent to designate will not change and I don't believe the delegation also is suggesting that we don't designate the property. I think it's the nuances that they'd like to work through, but in our opinion, the process allows for those nuances to still those nuance discussions to still exist and occur um through the existing process because what the committee is doing today is only recommending that council state their intention to designate the property. We're not passing a bylaw next week or two weeks from now or 3 weeks from now. Um the process is built in such a way that when council endorses their intention to designate conversations continue and other process are built into sorry other systems are built into the process to allow for further discussions. >> Thank you three madam chair. So there's a committee of the whole meeting next Wednesday where it will come up. Then there's an actual council meeting the week after that and that's when an actual decision will be made in terms of u council voting on the recommendation that it be be designated heritage and in that two weeks there's time for further discussion and perhaps fine-tuning with the Presbyterian church folks. Is is that accurate? uh through the chair. Yes, I if required tech typically what happens is the same reports will move forward to commute of the whole and council. But should discussions be had between now and that time, there's always an opportunity to include uh briefing notes of some sort to alert uh council members to certain discussions or changes that we may um feel are relevant or verified. >> Thank you. And three, Madam Chair, I think as we have we've discussed this in council before that even if it's designated does not mean a big iron door closes never to be opened again. There are opportunities to still work with heritage properties, including um letting them know if there are changes needed that there is some money available to support the heritage designation um to help if there's something regarding that part. Is is that true? It's not the end. It's not absolutely you can never talk about this again. through it through the chair. Uh yes, the the whole idea of a designation, if I can put it into a nutshell, is to continue to facilitate conversations. It is the only means remaining with the city to protect a property that has cultural heritage value and it ensures that a conversation between the owner and the city can continue. It is the only mechanism we have in place because of bill 23 and bill 200. >> Thank you. Um, thank you very much. I I'll just offer my opinion that I feel like the due diligence has been done on the side of the city and in the in the time I've been on this committee, there are very few uh heritage committee uh sorry, heritage applicants who don't hope that the something will change. And I think the city has proven it's quite open to being flexible and um because changes with the province, I honestly don't see a reason to defer this. And uh these the the churches on Young Street are so iconic and so beloved and so part of our landscape and I I don't doubt I understand completely that the Presbyterian church is is open to it, but I don't personally see a reason to delay the decision of this committee considering we are coming up to the end of the term. Let's let's finish off the job and um that's my comment. I won't be voting for any changes. Uh thank you. >> Thank you, Councelor Davidson. If I might just add before I go to our next speaker, Vice Chair Barbara. Um it's not our mandate to defer this particular recommendation. That sits uniquely with the committee of the whole and council. So should what what we send to council, a committee of the whole and council, should the committee of the whole and then council agree to defer this or to refer it back to staff for further discussion, that is their prerogative. So that is completely up to uh council. >> Sorry, my my apologies. I I see no reason to amend what we're what has been presented to us by by staff and should should go to council next week. Thank you. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. Um uh deputy clerk ban, did I state that correctly for the record? >> Thank you, chair. Yeah. So, um just I guess some procedural definitions I suppose. So a motion to defer would be to defer to the same committee. So if for instance HRH today said you know what we don't want to make the decision uh but we want to come we want to come back to it. It would be motion to defer. Um I will state that there are no uh scheduled HR meetings for the remainder of this term of council. Uh so it would you know if you deferred it you'd have to say to when and that sort of thing. um a motion to refer. Uh that is possible, but you would refer that directly to the next committee. Um generally speaking, even if you were to refer something to staff, it would still go to the next committee, that being committee of the whole to um make that decision and to council. So um you know if if any if I would sort of say if for some reason uh HR did not feel comfortable or or you know they had questions and that sort of thing um it would be a referral you could refer to committee the whole in which committee the whole which consists of all of council uh would then decide what they would want to do from there. So really anything that happens today HR goes to committee of the whole anyway I think is what I would say. Okay, appreciate that. Thank you very much. Um, okay. So, we've we're still open here for discussion. The next person on my speakers list is Vice Chair Bob Damro. Go ahead. >> Yes. Having listened to Canel and the fact that through the chair, the the fact that he said that they will continue to have um further discussions of what the dele the delegate wanted change. When I look at the erra report from the architect, many of the the points on here are very um easy points to be discussed with the staff as the process proceeds. So I feel very comfortable that with what Canel has said and and Karen having things um you know addressed that there has been due diligence a good staff report and outline has been done. the church wants to like are fine with having it designated. The the issues of um you know like the window and and the brick and all of that are very easy to address as the process goes along. So I'm feeling very comfortable with this um request to make it a heritage facility in Richmond Hill. That's all I [clears throat] have to say. Thank you. Thank you chair and thank you Canel for all you've done. >> Thank you Barb. appreciated. Are there any other members of council who wish to add anything in this first round? I see councelor Thompson has joined us. Welcome councelor Thompson. You always join HR and we are so grateful for that. Um I don't see anything further from members of committee. Councelor Thompson, do you wish to add anything? >> Sure. And I I appreciate you taking the the time to hear me. Um what I would say is uh I think we have two separate uh actions that are being requested here and I think the first one is to designate or not designate that would be the the number one and it's as everybody has said even the uh delegate that they are in favor of a designation. So I think that's number one. I think the second thing what I heard from the delegate is that there's some process questions that they have some concerns around which would be something that this committee couldn't really address. That is something that would have to be decided at you know either the committee the whole or council. Um, and I've heard, you know, specifically about the financial constraints, and let's face it, we know that all the churches are facing the same financial constraints and so forth. Um, and that's where I think uh, council could look at something and bring say a motion if they wanted to try and find some way to help out the the churches, not just the Presbyterian church, but all of them. We could be looking at a motion that may say, you know, for those particular entities, maybe we've got uh something that's that's worth discussing about so that we can provide maybe some relief in some way, shape, or form. But again, that's not something that would be done here with this committee. So that's really all I've got to say on that. that I would be looking at, say, Jonathan Scott from the Presbyterian Church to perhaps be reaching out to council to see if there's something that we could do in that respect. So, those are really all my comments. I think all we're looking at here is should we designate or not designate? And it looks like we're all on the same page in that respect. So, thank you for taking my time. [snorts] >> Thank you, Councelor Thompson. Appreciate it. And remember committee it's it's um it's a notice of intention to designate. It's not a notice to designate. It's very very important uh to to make that that that difference um to all the work that we do. Um so one m last chance before I take the floor. Anybody else wishes to add anything? Seeing none. Okay. I will just um add my quick comments. But before I do, if I may go to you Canel. I know it's in the staff report, but if you could for the public's sake, anybody who may be listening, joining us online, could you explain to the public exactly what the process and procedure is according to the act that will take place? Should this go to council? Should this be approved by council of the notice to in of the intention to designate? What comes after that? As councelor Davidson said, this is not the iron door slamming shut. You're muted. You're muted, sir. Muted. >> I apologize. Okay. >> I know we haven't done this for a while. >> Rookie mistake. Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Um, so to the church and to the committee members to answer the question. Thank you for the question, counselor. So in accordance with the Heritage Act, what we're the first step is getting council to endorse their intention to designate the property. What that does is essentially it provides a certain level of protection which means that you know the property owner can't go and make changes and alterations right away. It's a semi-level of protection but it is not a full designation at this point. After this, a notice of intention designation is published that triggers the time to start the actual designation process. So from that publication date, the city has 120 days to pass a designation bylaw. During those 120 days, there is an objection period. So the um property owner can object to this notice of intention to designate. That objection is then brought back to council for their consideration. So that's usually when you know we will provide staff will provide certain recommendations or changes to the um statement of significance or the staff report. And at that meeting where we where the notice of objection is considered typically an SOS is finalized. An SOS is a statement of significance. That's where we list out all the attributes and essentially it is that statement that becomes a part of the designation bylaw. Now because we have the 120 days from the publication of the NOID there's a bit of flexibility even after the notice of objection is um received by council and a decision is taken by council there's still room for discussion though I will admit perhaps a little less flexible because council has taken a decision at that point if there are further discussions to be had there may be other informal processes to bring the things back to council before the designation bylaw is passed. But procedurally speaking, typically once the notice of objection is addressed by council, we bring back a bylaw to council. When council passes that bylaw, that is when the property is designated. After that, the owner still has the ability to appeal this decision. So they may appeal the decision after which it will go to the OOLT and then the matter lies with the OOLT. It is then up to them. We may go through a hearing. It may be a settlement discussion but at that point the decision is outside the hands of the city. It is a matter with the OOLT. >> I hope I was able to provide >> most definitely. Thank you very much. I'm sure committee uh committee members and councelor Thompson would agree with that. Um thank you very much. I think it's always important Timothy I'll get to you in just a moment. I think it's always important to ensure that everybody on the screen, everybody on the call, everybody on the table knows exactly what the next steps are. And there are many and there are many that protect the land owner. There are many that make sure that they are they are they are given full uh full accountability to give their side. Nobody is stopping them from from doing that. That's in the Ontario Heritage Act. So I am I am quite satisfied with these recommendations. Remember also that these recommendations are not the bylaw which is what Kunal was discussing. The bylaw is what will be the final signed by the mayor and the clerk the the final legitimate bylaw which will cover this entire designation. So between now and then, it's a long time. I would imagine that by then, there would have been ample discussion had through the proponent, our staff, members of council so that all the correct decisions can can be made without uh you know too much aggravation on on any side. So so I think that's something we must we must also always take into account. Canal, you wanted to add something. >> Sorry, Madam Chair. I did miss one thing I'd like to add. Just to add to your comment you made. You know, like we've said before, the designation bylaw is not the last stop. After that point, should alterations, modifications, repairs, maintenance be needed. There are still opportunities. All the bylaw does is provide a level of clarity on what is to be protected and then how it is to be protected. and conserved and adapted and reused is something that is a conversation for when the situation arises. So the bile is really a tool to facilitate the conversation. It's the starting point. It is not by any means the end point. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. That's an excellent clarification. Thank you very much. Um so uh yes I um I definitely will support these recommendations that this uh this is moved to committee of the whole next week and council in two weeks time and uh Mr. Scott and anybody else who wishes to address committee of the whole and council may all may do so at that time as well. Um so those are my comments. Timothy I'll go to you. Uh I see your hand up. Go ahead sir. Unmute yourself. uh through the chair. >> I'd uh something I want uh Conell to clarify a bit is I I don't think we uh disagree. I think we all agree that the property should be designated. Church should be designated. I think the issue here uh probably is not our uh prerogative uh is uh what part should be designated. uh I'm trying to understand uh the time that we have uh the process I I want to conel to clarify do we have the uh once we uh recommend a destination uh and within 120 days if there's no objection that means the bylaw will be issued is that once the bylaw is issued then all the items will be fixed uh in other words uh that will include what is to be designated, what item to be designated. That means if there's no objection, we only they only have 120 days unless they object then they'll discuss and then they can uh keep the process uh go further along. >> Am I correct in my assumption? >> Who knows? >> Yeah. So through the chair um again yes it we we're not limited to just the um objection um member Chang it's also um the discussions can be ongoing the objection is sort of the formal approach on how to get the conversations that are happening between staff and the owner to council. Right? So, if they have no objections, yes, then the bylaw will be uh basically what you see today in the statement of significance. If they have concerns, we're going to continue conversations with them. We're going to figure out what we can and cannot do within the mandates of the Heritage Act and the frameworks that are presented to us. There's again, we also have our own limitations, what we can and cannot do or include in a designation bylaw. And so we will work with the owner to come to a sort of a consensus or an amendable solution let's say and then we will bring that to council and that can be through an objection process. Typically it is through an objection pro process member chang it is um that's the formal procedure in which to do it. I hope that clarifies. >> Thank you, Canel. Timothy, >> I guess through the chair, my understanding then is uh basically uh the 120 days is a time for discussion and revision and that type of thing, right? And uh and then uh uh if everybody is satisfied uh then you will move ahead with the bylaw. If not then maybe there's a formal uh objection then we'll then uh further discussion will go on am I correct assuming that >> so through the chair sorry I will clarify once again so when after the council issues or sorry after the city publishes the notice of intention to designate that's when the 120day timeline starts. So from now to 120 day from that point to 120 days we that's the amount of time we have to pass a bylaw. The pilot can be passed sooner as well if the work is completed. The notice of objection is something that happens within 30 days of the NOID being published. So once the NOID is published, an owner has 30 days to object. So and then that objection is brought forward to council. And so there is a flexibility of time to have discussions. the the timelines I'm mentioning to you are what as they are noted in the heritage act. >> All right, Timothy, thank you very much. Yeah, Cornel, thank you. Yeah, I understand that there should be enough time uh plenty of time to uh to iron through if there's any uh misunderstanding and discussion and so on so that everybody can be happy before the whole thing is finalized. Praise God. >> Thank you. Yes, agreed. Thank you, Timothy. Okay, so um like I said, I fully Oh, uh Council Thompson, go ahead, sir. >> You're muted. >> Muted. Muted. Muted. >> Okay, there we go. Um sorry, I was hitting the wrong button. Um yeah what what what can all said there and and I think maybe a little more clarification here because um we had a similar example with the United Church where um one of the uh attributes uh was um creating a problem for other attributes on that particular building and I can't remember if that was um during the uh notice of intention to designate a period like after the the 30 days or if it was uh after the bylaw was passed but either or it doesn't really matter. uh Heritage ended up working with the church discussing the things and decided uh that and made recommendation back to council to say yes there's two particular attributes that uh as much as we hate to lose them we don't want to lose other attributes because of the damage that was being caused and so things can change and you know canal could certainly uh validate this at some point even if it's even after the bylaw has been issued would that be a correct assessment can all >> through the chair yes through the chair yes counselor so for that particular example it was through the notice of objection period where we took those into consideration we brought it back to council and then council directed staff to remove those specific attributes from the final designation bylaw so the final designation bylaw did not include those attributes so yes that is an example of that counselor and to your uh second point. Yes, even if the designation bylaw was passed and should a problem arise in the future, it's something we can take into consideration at that time and then amend the bylaw accordingly. >> Right. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Those are all my comments. >> Thank you, councelor. Okay, last call. Anybody? We're good. Second round, we're good. Okay, so uh yes, as I was saying, I completely support these recommendations. Thank you, Councelor Davidson, for putting the motion on the floor. And I just would like to add that I have complete faith as chair of this committee and as a counselor in the city of Richmond Hill of our heritage staff. They are professionals with alphabets behind their names. And there is no question in my mind that when staff reports are brought to us um that they are brought to us in absolute good faith and that our staff is acting in the best best interests of uh the corporation of the city of Richmond Hill. So I just wanted to add that. So, we have a motion on the floor moved by councelor Davidson 6.1 SRPBS26059 notice of intention to designate 105866 Young Street, City Files D12 07436 and D127438. All those in favor, members of committee, thank you. Any opposed? Seeing none, that passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Um, Deputy Clerk Ban, the correspondence. Should we receive that separately? >> Uh, thank you. U through the chair because it's it's noted underneath. Uh, it's would be >> of that >> uh through the whole 6.1. We're good. We're good. >> We're good. Okay. Excellent. I just wanted to make sure we weren't leaving that out. Okay. Thank you. And again, thank you to Jonathan Scott. We appreciate your your your delegation. Okay. So, we move now to our next item, which is item 6.2 SRPBS.26.060. Notice of intention to designate 1139 Young Street. City file D127484. This property is also known as the large Daybreak property. So um do I have a member of committee who would move that the recommendations forward so we can discuss it on the floor? Anybody? Member of C member of committee move the recommendations for 6.2. Thank you. Committee member Diane Mloud. Appreciate it. Um Diane, you have the floor as the mover. Would you like to add anything? >> Uh no, I wouldn't like to add anything. >> Okay, [laughter] no problem. Thank you. Would any other me would any member of committee wish to add anything? Nothing on discussion. Councelor Thompson, do you wish to add anything? >> Uh I really don't have much to add there. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you very much. So we have before us moved. Okay, let's see. Here we go. Sorry. So agenda item 6.2 moved by Diane Mloud, SRPBS 260 060, the notice of intention to designate 11339 Young Street, city file D12 07484. All those in favor? Any opposed? Seeing none, that passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Okay, so the next item um on our agenda is adjournment. But before we get there, uh Orion, just if you could um assist me with something here with the committee. This is this is listed as as the last me the last meeting for this heritage committee um of this term. But there could be another meeting should there be any kind of urgency that arises like the demolition permit or anything like that which must come to Heritage Richmond Hill in a specific time frame which could result in this committee having one more uh or one more or two more meetings before the end of term. Uh thank you. Uh through the shirt. That's correct. So should a um you know someone put in a uh heritage permit or you know to to make adjustments or alterations uh it does have to go to the heritage committee. If that does happen, we would have what we would call a special heritage uh special HR meeting. We will send you an email. We'll let you know. We we certainly ask to see who's available so we make sure we have quorum. But um this meeting would be our last regularly scheduled HRH for this term of council. >> Thank you sir. So with that in mind that we may not convene again. I want to take this opportunity as your chair to thank each and every one of you especially our vice chair Bob Deamro and councelor Davidson for her participation. Councelor Thompson for always joining us. Diane, Barbara, Stephen, Agnes, Timothy, Brian um who have been so um even Annette who's not here today. You have been absolutely paramount to all discussions and all decisions that we have made to move um any HR uh matters forward to committee of the whole and council in this term of council. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart. This committee holds a very very close close part of my heart and um I I really thank you all. You are amazing. So um I'll just give anybody the opportunity now. I know it's not on the agenda. Uh give me some leeway please. Mr. Ban, does would any member of committee like to say anything before we sign off? Barb, go ahead. >> Um this is the end of my second term on the committee and I can't serve again. So, what I like to say is I've I've enjoyed it. That through the chair. Sorry, I should have said through the chair. I' I've enjoyed it and I hope the rest of you know to reapply to know that that your work is good work. Um, Heritage will always be in my heart and soul along with any kind of family and and local history. I've enjoyed working with this committee and I I love Heritage. I I love the town of Richmond. I love Canada in general. So, anyway, thank you for all of you being on the committee with me. I wish we had met in person more, but anyway, thank you for your work and continue to do it. And I know that I will continue to be caring about heritage in the Richmond Hill community. That's all. >> Thank you, Bob. Appreciate it. Timothy, >> uh through the chair, I should uh thank you, Madame Chair, uh very much for all your guidance, your uh effective uh chair for all the past years. and also thank you for all the members of the committee. Uh in fact I also like to thank a lot to the staff who present a very uh high uh professional uh quality uh report uh on which uh we base our recommendations uh and they are very technical I have to uh to say uh a lot of times uh we really rely on your expertise the staff's expertise and for uh is quite experienced to be on a committee and I appreciate the time and the effort uh that uh uh I'm presented with uh to join the committee. Thank you and good luck to everybody in the election. >> No, thank you Timothy. Thank you. [laughter] >> Thank you, Councelor Davidson. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. This is my first time on the heritage committee and I am on other committees. I'm on the library board, but this is definitely the committee where I feel like everybody on here reads the material. They ask great questions and because the decisions this committee makes potentially. I know it goes to council, but I think in general council trusts this committee for guidance and staff. So, thank you to staff. Um, and we're making decisions that really affect uh property owners. And no one was afraid to make tough decisions and people asked, like I said, great questions and stood by the mandate of this committee, which was to assess and designate. Uh, and it it's truly impressive that volunteer members of the community take their responsibilities so seriously even when there's some push back from the folks that maybe don't want their their their properties designated. So, respect to all of you and um I didn't know what I was doing. Thank you counselor Silivitz for making it clear what we're talking about when I would stray off. So, thank you to everybody. Thank you so much. >> It's my pleasure. Thank you, Council Davidson. Anybody else would like to add anything? No. Council Thompson, would you like to say something as as our ad hoc member? >> Uh, no. I'll just uh echo um what councelor Davidson has said. She's uh she phrased it well. And also to uh thank uh Barb de Jambro for her service. Thank you so much. >> Thank you, counselor. And I want to also want to thank our staff through um deputy clerk Ryan Ban um who's the head of this and out of the clerk's office and through all all the staff members in the clerk's office Karen Hurley and all others who have been involved implicitly with this committee. We thank you. Um you are absolutely you are an integral part of what we do. all of you from um heritage department to our um planning department to our um clerk's department. Thank you so much for the incredible work that you do every single day for the city. So with that, [music] um I want to wish everybody um a wonderful life ahead of you. I hope to see you back. I hope to see me back. um that we can see some of you again on this on this committee. This is a very very important committee especially with the with the constraints that have been put upon us through the through the the province. So um it's a very important committee and um I I look forward to continuing a relationship with all of you regardless and again um my thanks you have this has been an absolutely stellar committee and we have done excellent work. Oh, and to the subcommittee as well who helped with figuring out which uh which properties we bringing forward for designation. Thank you very much. Your work is deeply appreciated. So with that, thank you all. Maybe we'll see you, maybe we won't. Uh but thank you all uh very very much from the bottom of my heart. So agenda item seven is adjournment. Who would like to put that forward? Anybody? Member of C there. Thank you, Councelor Davidson. and she did it. Okay. So, adjournment has been moved by councelor Davidson. All those in favor? Seeing none, that passes unanimous unanimously. HR committee 2022 2026. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.