Okay, good evening everyone. Segal, Ani Boujou NDO Wachia Cue. As the mayor of the city of Kingston, I offer these words, and the spirit of this gathering. Let us bring our good minds and hearts together as one, to celebrate these traditional lands as a gathering place of the original peoples and their ancestors who were entrusted to care from other earth since time immemorial. It is with deep humility that we acknowledge and offer our gratitude for their contributions to this community having respect for all as we share the space now and walk side by side into the future. We were meeting in Committee The Whole Closed Meeting. We did discuss one item with respect to an Ontario Land Tribunal Appeal. So I will ask for a motion to rise with HIP reporting, please. Move by Councillor Shave, segment by Councillor Bohm, the Council rise from the Committee of the Whole Closed Meeting without reporting. All this in favor. Proposed, and that's carried. Okay, we've already improved the addendum this evening. Are there any disclosures of cupulary interests. Seeing them, we have no presentations this evening. We do have several delegations. So at this point, I will invite Joyce Hostin to appear before Council to speak to Clause 1, report number 73 from the CAO. Respect to traditional turf grass and naturalized lawns review. And just a reminder to our delegations that you have up to five minutes to speak, and then we will open up the Florida questions from Council. And welcome. And the floor is yours. We'll just add you to adjust the mic so we can hear it. Yeah, that's perfect. Hi, my name is Joyce Hoston. I'm with The Thousand Island Master Gardeners. And we were consultant back in 2024 when we came out with The Current Yarn Bylaw, which was recognised nationally as a model Director Compo was invited by the ecological design lab, the Canadian Society and Lascape Architects in the Canadian Wildlife Federation to discuss it as a national webinar on municipal bylaw reform. So a great bylaw. Kingston, so Arne has a strong bylaw. Miss Amendment, though, is a step backward. So I'm asking Council to deference of staff can consult with us. This slide here, it's like the indoction curve. I'm teaching currently in the master's in Earth and Energy Resources Leadership Program, and one topic I cover this month is the adoption curve. So what innovation? And it got me thinking about naturalized yards and how they fit on this curve. People have been fighting for the right to national license the 1990s. Those were the innovators. The Bell Case, and the Belle case in Toronto recognised it back in the 1990s as protected un - in - turner of rights and freedoms. I was one of those early adopters I naturalized 30 years ago. 2026 this year, Ruck versus Mississauga reaffirmed the right and struck down the kind of vague, bylaw language that this amendment, despite its intentions, introduces. Now we're crossing that chasm. Which is the tough part, how do you get across the chasm? People are really starting to internationalize yarns. They care. In the early majority is motivated by Climate and Biodiversity, but nervous will ain't get in trouble. What about rats and ticks? The late majority Sheriff's concerns, but needs more support, education, and examples to make the move. And the language will always prefer a traditional lawn. They'll complain, no matter what we do. Kingston's climate adaptation plan, The Path Forward commits, and I quote, to revise the lawn care bylaw, to permit a great adversity of naturalized yards to support wildlife. Just a sport wildlife. Kingston Climate Partnership is developing a business case for living lawns as an easy first step towards naturalizing. This amendment would hinder those efforts. Next slide. Education, Communication. Wrong slide. Education, Communication, and Train By Law Officers who can tell the difference between naturalized yarn and neglectant yarn. And a yarn dominated by and paste the plants will help people make the transition. So what yard in this slide qualifies. The amendment introduced an indefinition that requires vegetation to being deliberately designed. The left dimensions from the Indigenous food sovereignty garden were native asters and goldenrod spontaneously moving into a non - native grass matrix, not designed by humans designed by the land. The right image is a deliberately design cultivating garden that includes dai lilies, Japanese barberry, and other invasive ornamentals, not on schedule A. I know this definition, it qualifies. The definition only recognises human intent, a yarn design by the land doesn't qualify. Training education in a well - designed assessment framework can help address the vagueness and subjectivity and enforcement. But it needs to be built with ecological hornicultural and indigenous knowledge. Next slide. A Thousand Island Master Gardeners have developed educational content and living law and cinch lawns. Manuscape spoonscapes and forest vapes and are developing hand notes for each of Kingston's prohibitive plants. And those are some in the hand notes we've been working on. This knowledge base can help clarify what thriving plant communities look like. What currents and transition look like and what a neglected yarn looks like. Deferral gives us the opportunity to contribute our knowledge. Next slide. The Roman clubs assumes natural or ins vegetation. Can you go back? I think I skipped a slide. The rodent fonts assume naturalized mention change. Nope, go for it. Metro Lyon's meditation attracts Ratston applied by health risk. Through eminence runs the other way. The microbiome rewilding hypothesis supported by more than a decade of research links to various vegetation and soil microbiana with healthier immune function. INSCNL found that the greater yard biodiversity was the end with lower rates of elentry disease. Genome, Quebec is funding research with the city of Laval on urban microbiomes and green infrastructure. The conventional lawn is the health risk, not the naturalized yard. Next slide. 30 seconds. Plants don't attract rats. I need my props. What does. That. Barman cute renewals? The green sun barbecue grills. Baren Fienors. Uncaron food waste. Why these are long hauls. It's because that's where rats travel. They like fences and walls. They have this aversion to travelling through vegetation. They like the touch. So I guess a quick summary. Please defer. Hey, thank you. Thank you very much. Are there any questions for the delegation. Councillor Ridge. Thank you. Your worship and through you. Uh, so thank you so much for the presentation and the props that was fantastic. I just have a question. So you've mentioned redents. What about ticks when it comes to any public health concerns that there may be for longer grass? For example. So this was a nap and e last week and I did a whole bunch of writing about ticks as well. So TIRR and they took populations or increasing in different ticks are moving in. Grass is mostly for dog ticks, not the black leg at text, which is the ones that carrying Lyme disease. There have been studies in New York around grass and it doesn't matter the height of the grass, dragging in it the grass itself doesn't have the black leg and ticks. So the woodlands and the deer that bring them in and the white foot at mice that carry them. So the more romance, I mean not wrones, the more predators we have that are attracted by biodiversity arts. They'll eat the white fun of mouth, which is the Lyme disease carrier, which helps actually keep it down. The other thing with text really is that ticks are here. And we have the Lone Star tick. It has been in the area now. And those are a different microclimate as well. And it doesn't matter what we do at this point, what the habitat is, the Lone Star ticks can cross like asphalt. And so tick awareness is becoming clinically important. Feeling safe because you mold your lawn. It's not any safer than an unmonhan. Thank you very much. And through your worship. So this is a follow - up to that. Then there's a thank you very much for that answer, because that's one of the concerns and my conversations with constituents. That I was expressing. Another one is just about, you know, irritants, like anything that you would be allergic to, for example. And would that be substantially worse for, you know, by considering naturalized lawn as opposed to one that's trained during 18. More traditional or accepted traditional manner? Not really. And those microbiome rewilding them hypouses. It's all about that you have a stronger immune system, lower allergens. There are allergens associate with plants. That's why rag meat is on their prohibited plants list. But that pollen travels as far as Belleville. So even though we prohibited here, that pollen is going to get here. Um, some of our really important trees like oak trees have pollen that people are allergic to. So it's not so much. I mean, it's like if you're allergic to trees, we can't cut down all the trees. I mean, it's a problem. Thank you, Councillor Sanek. Thank you, your worship. Ms. Hustin, I just wondered if you could describe more about intentional landscaping and intentionalism. So what signals intent? And I think the things like, are there more pollinators. Are there more birds. Dense the biodiversity increasing. And this will land healing isn't absorbing more stormwater. So those to me are signals of intent. And then having a conversation with the homeowner, if you talk to a homeowner and they can tell you that some of the plants and they can actually say, oh, this is this plant, that signals intent. If they don't know what the names of the plans, then they maybe aren't just being neglectful. Or there was another thought I had there. Um, the names of the plants or the prohibited plans. Like the permanent plants list is really valuable. Because if they're neglecting their yarns on zone, they got prohibited plans. If they're deliberately naturalizing, they would know those prohibited plants and they would be removing them. I cut the tuzzle. Thank you Mayor Patterson through you. Councillor Sankai have touched on mine, but I just like a bit of elaboration. Cause I think the issues that we as Council have had, um, is not intentioned. It's just people with lawns that are just left to grow while due to negligence. So there still is, I think what we're looking for for council is some way to address negligent lawns versus intentionality. Um, what advice would you give us as council to look for in an update by law and bylaw officers to look for that separates that line of someone's just not taking care of their property and it's running wild versus intentionality there. Cause I agree with you. I think that's, I think that's a sweet spot we're looking for. I don't think it needs to be, I'm sorry if that's me. Um, I don't think it needs to be in a bylaw update. I think it's really difficult to define that in a bylaw. And I think the assessment framer that was listed in the report would be valuable. And the training for by La officers. So a send questions that the bylaw officers can ask the homeowner. Celia Vermanden actually has signage that people can put up signalling their intent, which I think is a really strong one. There's something else. And I'm thanking now. Um. But I understand that some people just, you know, the prohibitive plans. I mean, the prohibitive plants and all of those yards. And, but we also, so I'm going to go on the counter too. We also have to get used to a different aesthetic. That it is going to look messier than we're used to. That's part of biodiversity. And so being able to, I think when so many emails and I'm happy to help with some bullet points or something to address when homeowner complains and it looks messy. If there's more pollinators, if the burns and the bees, that mess is inviting life to the yarn. I don't know if that helps. I mean, I'll work on a draft and send it around too. Thank you, kisser son. Thank you, worship through you. What is your biggest fear in Indie recommendation via the staff if Council Covid recommendation today. Why we're going to happen? What is your biggest fear. One and that rodent clause has been in college people to, you know, the previous staff report had said many of the by and law complaints come from neighbour disputes. So that rodent clause would just give a lever for people to complain. And it would just increase complaints. And yet there's no basis for a rodent complaint based on what a yarn think of concern or messy or a naturalized. So that would be my biggest fear. And then the definition trying to define a natural yard. It's like really, really, really tough. It's, I think the turf grass is enough. And then the assessment framework and then training will do it. So what happened if the neighbour has that real issue with that garden is not naturalized garden, but misused the privilege to the current bylaw. And somebody just don't take care of their backyard. And is the infestation up there and the neighbours are suffering with that. Don't they have right. They should have right to complain. And how are we going to assess that legit complaint or is it not legit complaint? So that right is already in the existing bylaw. The existing bylaw has height limit and defined turf grass. So if they simply don't mow and they have really tall grats, that is a lever that can be used. And I mentioned that odds are in the one slide visited five yarns with by loss for new bylaw came into effects. So by law officers asked me to come out and help. And I went out and everyone there were prohibited plants. So those are two things that are already in the bylaw that allows, um, for that complaint to be upheld. That's Mr. Council. Thank you. And, uh, thanks for all the information. I know that education seems to kind of be the issue here. And it seems like it's not just educating the public, but perhaps also educating the bylawsers, which you were involved in in a perfect world, how much longer would you think that we should go towards that education sort of initiative before any changes were made? Like, you know, try it for a little bit. But how much longer sort of see if it starts to stick. I'm going to say, so we're in that adoption curve for crossing the chasm. We're going to get complaint. You know, you're going to get the early adopters in the early people like me saying, Hey, this bylaw. There's a she's mythic. And then you'll get the people that are the late ones that are going to complain. So you're kind of. I wouldn't say it's not in a matter of time. It's a matter of time for people to adjust to the new normal. And that new normal is going to take some time before. And we need a lot more examples of the naturalized yarns. The master gardeners of brand two biodiverse garden wars, which is part of that whole effort. Um, and we will be holding one. The last one was last year. So every two years. Last year's Mins Garden tumor to show examples. And that one we had over 200 people come out. Most, the first one not nearly so many. And they were mostly just curious. This last one was people who were wanting to naturalize, not sure how to go about it and looking for examples. So I think as those build, it will just naturally convert. Over time. So I'm not going to be a timeline. I'm going to say in a couple of years, uh, work. At the public really understanding the change. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. So you know the questions. Thank you very much, Miss Hos. Okay. Uh, with that, we'll move to our second delegation. We'll invite Leed DePau to peer before Council to speak to new motion number four with respect to responsible pet ownership. Great. I had some slides. Are they going to appear. Okay. Great. Thank you. Your worship members of Council. You may remember that I was here last month and spoke to you about a horrific incident in which my dog and myself were attacked by a large breed power dog. And my, my little sweet bumpsa was, was killed in the attack. I'm happy to see that at this month's meeting, there's a motion on the floor to look at assessing the responsible pet ownership bylaw. I'm here tonight to ask that the city centre victims and public safety in the review of the city's animal control bylaw and related policies and procedures concerning dog attacks and maulings. Next slide, please. The key premises of my talk here tonight are that the vast majority of dog attacks are preventable and that prevention starts well before bylaw would get involved. My next premise is that the dog's keeper is responsible for anticipating and controlling the dog's actions, including preventing attacks. And finally, that the consequences for the dog's keeper should be much more severe than the consequences that the victims experience. Next slide, please. I want to say to you that a dog attack is not the same as other bylaw matters. It's much more similar to a violent crime than it is to your neighbour having overgrown lawn, noxious weeds, et cetera. There are severe threats to the victims and to public safety, dog attacks often happen when you're just going about your life, not expecting it at all. There are immediate harms, there's terror injury, payment suffering and death. There are also lasting harms such as grief, infections, including rabies, which is a hundred percent fatal ongoing pain and scarring psychological injuries, loss productivity, fear of normal activities such as walking in your neighbourhood. Next slide, please. Yep, the response to a dog attack, even when severe, such as the death of a dog is just like any other bylog complaint. There's no urgency in the response to the attack unless an human has been attacked, um, or didn't, I mean, because I was attacked. There's no consideration of the keeper's actions and the likelihood of following control orders such as a muzzle. In the case of my attack, the man who had the dog is a substance user and has a severe addiction. He also has a criminal background. It's highly unlikely that he is going to follow a muzzle order when he didn't have the dog on a leash to begin with. And we regularly see him in the neighbourhood now with a different unleashed dog. Just days after this attack. The consequences also do not reflect the severity of the impacts on the, on the victim. Oftentimes the only consequence is education for the dog owner and the muzzle order, which is very different from facial scarrings that someone might have for their whole life where the loss of a close pet. There's also an approach to victims that increases drama and decreases safety. Next slide, please. When communicating with victims of a dog attack and mauling, Kingston's current practice is the same as any other bylaw. They'll tell you that an investigation has been started. The investigation is complete. The city has taken an enforcement action and the city's enforcement action is complete. This differs significantly from Ontario's victim Bill of Rights, which is also a piece of the motion that you're being asked to consider. You can see what the rights are here. And it includes access to information about what is happening during the investigation to the degree that it can be shared. I have heard from the chief veterinarian from the city of Toronto. And I've heard that this is part of what they do. As well as providing information to victims to understand the process that's going to be going through. And what the legal process looks like. Because it's impossible to retain that information in your head at the moment that you are going through a severe trauma. 30 seconds. Okay. Great. Next one. I also just want to say that. A dog attack. The justice you receive depends on where you live. As you can see here. Next one, please. Kingston has very low administrative fines compared to other municipalities. Next one, please. You can see Collingwood has passed a zero tolerance enforcement policy for off - leash dogs as part of their efforts to control a tax. And we'll leave it there. But my end message. Is that nothing about us without us. Thank you very much, ma'am. Okay. Thank you. Any questions from Council. Okay. See, no questions. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. Okay. And with that, we will move to our third and final delegation. Seeing one byte to Kevin Smith to Peter Fort Council to speak to clause 1 report number 75 from the Heritage Properties Committee with respect to the application for Ontario Heritage approval 53 King Street. Good evening. Your worship and mayors of Council and members of Council. My name is Kevin Smith. I am a current member of Kingston's housing and homelessness advisory committee. And I am standing before you tonight as a delegate to speak in support of report HP 2617 for the property of 53 King Street East. I have reviewed application P185326 in depth. The proposed amendments to this historic house, including the new windows and matching roofing show that we're responsibly upgrading and receiving R. Existing areas spaces while strictly preserving Kingston's Aerith character. Reserving our historic neighbourhood footprints does not mean freezing our city in time. It means ensuring that solutions are safely required and thoughtful. So they remain assets for our community. This application meets all necessary requirements. I strongly urge Council to accept the staff recommendations light and approve this project on the conditions outline in exhibit. Great. Thank you very much. Are there any questions. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. So with that we have no further delegations. Are there any petitions to present. Okay. We have no deferred motions. Uh, we do have a motion of condolence. It's moved by Cancer Boom, seculted by Mayor Paterson that the sincere condolences of Kingston City Council be extended to the family, friends, and millions of global fans of Peter Cullen passed away on Wednesday, August 26, 2026. Bournemontreal, Peter was a legendary Canadian voice actor whose iconic voice to find generations of popular culture. King Kingston holds a special connection to his early life as he attended and graduated from re geopolitists Notre Dame Catholic secondary school. Over a brilliant career spanning more than half a century. Peter Lent is extraordinary vocal talents to numerous beloved characters of most famously serving as the definitive rogue voice of Optimus Prime and the Transformers franchise. He also brought immense joy to audiences the voice of Eor and Winnie the Pooh and Monterey Jack in Chippendale Rescue Rangers. His kindness, humility and profound generosity toward his fans will always be remembered. The thoughts were with Peter's loved ones and his global community of admirers during his difficult time. Call vote, all those in favor. Opposed. And that's carried. Okay. So with that, we will move on to reports. First up we have report number 73 from the CAO. Move by Councillor Anna Sekhnet by Councillor Hassan that report number 73 from the Chief of Ministry of Officer recommend be received and adopted cause by clause. Okay. There's just a one clause. Traditional turf grass and naturalized lawns review Councillor Stephen. Thank you Mayor Paterson. Um, so this report is coming to us because Steph have found that there were some challenges with enforcement of our yards bylaw. And staff were trying to clear it out, both for councillors, for community and actually also for by La Staff themselves. And I think Joyce spoke to us about what is the new normal. And I think she's right. I think this is a direction that we're headed and I'm really excited to see Kingston is one of the leaders in these naturalized lawns. And I think as part of this new normal, it is messy. And it is hard to define. We are in uncharted waters here. And I think that, you know, staff and The Thousand Islands Master Gardeners, they worked really, really well together to get this bylaw so strong. And I think the intentions here are right and good. And I think that we can make them even better if we give just a little bit more time for consultation. Um, with Thousand Islands Master Gardeners. So, uh, what I'd like to do is offer a motion of deferral, um, to give stuff that time to come back and cue four. Um, so not a long window, but a chance to work with The Thousand Island Master Gardeners, make sure that we've got that definition of naturalized yards set, work out the rat thing. Um, and just make sure that we're, we're hitting at home here. Okay, thank you. So we have a motion to amend. Move by Councillor Stephen, seconded by Councillor Toso to defer report number 73. Clause 1 received from the CAO. Uh, to Q4 2026 to allow staff additional time to consult with The Thousand Islands at Master Gardens. So Councillor Stephen, uh, you've spoken to the motion. Is there, I mean, you have another minute if there's Mayor. Go for it. No, actually, um, just want to make sure that the whole point of this isn't that we're opening up really broadly to have a huge discussion. That's already happened. That work is done. This is just about making sure that the enforcement piece is in place. So I think Thousand Islands Master Gardeners are the ones that can help us with this. So, um, that's why it's specifies them. I'll leave it there. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Any discussion on the amendment. Cancer Toso. Again, remember it's one minute for a motion to, uh, to defer. Thank you Mayor Paterson for you. I completely agree. Happy to second. Um, I just want to get confirmation from staff. We are still going to have some degree of tools for bylaw to address some unintentional lawns that are attracting S. Is that correct? Assuming Byla is going to speak about this. Dr. Mishagu. Yeah. Thank you for you. Yes, that's correct. I mean, staff will still continue administering the bylaw the way that it is now. And as we work on the greater clarity than those changes will be incorporated with time. But of course there are still going to work to address the concerns that come forward in the meantime. Thank you. Please, as Councillor Stephen, so eloquently put address the rat thing. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else on the motion to defer. Okay. We will call the vote, please. And that carries. Okay. Uh, with that, we will move to committee of the whole that we have nothing there. Uh, information reports. Uh, if you have any questions, just raise your, Oh, I'm sorry. Am I missing a few pages. Hold on. Sorry. I was missing a couple of pages in my agenda. Seem that we were something was something was amiss. Okay. Thank you. Next we have report number 74 from the administrative policies committee. Move by Councillor Tozo seconded by Councillor Hassan that report 74 from the administrative policy's committee be received and adopted. Right. We have the one clause audited financial statements and other financial information of the Corporation of the city of Kingston year ended December 31st, 2025. We'll call the vote. And that cures. Next we have report number 75 from the Heritage Properties Committee. Move by Deputy Merrill. Strahoff and seconded by Councillor McLaren that report 75 from the Heritage Properties Committee be received and adopted. There is the one clause respect to 53 King Street East. We will call the vote. And that carries. Now we're going to information reports. So number one July 2026 tender and contract awards subject to delegation of authority. And then number two, transmittal overport from the closed meeting investigator, closed meeting investigation 2026 - 01 municipal services corporation. Okay. Uh, we have no information reports from members of Council. We do have several new motions. Uh, so first move by Councillor Bohm, seconded by Councillor Sanek. Whereas the city of Kingston has developed and enhanced sports fields and event facilities at Woodbine Park John Mason Park and the InVista Centre to attract and accommodate tournaments, sporting events and other community activities. And whereas despite staff actively working with the event organisers to secure offsite and overflow parking locations, adding an additional 50 parking spaces it would mine park and supporting major events with enhanced parking coordination. And limiting other non - event site uses on event days. The parking needs continues to exceed capacity. And whereas residents, visitors, participants and spectators have expressed concerns regarding the lack of available on - site parking during events and tournaments. Therefore be resolved, the Council Direct staffed Undertaker review of options to increase barking capacity at Woodbine Park, John Mason Park and the InVista Centre, including by not limited to the potential use of adjacent lands and the reconfiguration relocation or modification of existing site amenities and infrastructure. And that staff report back to Council in Q1 2027 with findings and recommendations respecting the feasibility costs, impacts, and implementation, considerations, associated with the identified options. Okay. Uh, Councillor Bohm, you have the Thor. Thank you, worshipping through you. So yes, I've worked with Councillor Sanic and staff on this. It's just simply the fact that there's so much sports tourism happening in the city now. And we're hosting some very, very major tournaments. And the desire to use Kingston as a location for a lot of these tournaments is evident in the fact of our proximity between major city centres like Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto. So this is something where when these tournaments are held, it's not just a local league where somebody comes and plays for a couple hours and then leaves and goes homes home. These are people that are coming and they're spending the whole day there. And they're parking and they're not moving their vehicles. So, um, obviously having experienced this firsthand, whether it's in the John Mason soccer fields or woodvine park and even at the InVista Centre, there's just simply not enough parking to host these events. And then what happens is the overflow parking ends up happening and occurring in neighbourhoods. And then families are now being basically essentially pushed off their streets by residents from other cities that are coming here to play in tournaments. So what this motion really does is it's going to try to update the parking to provide more spaces to recognise a good thing and that sports tourism is growing in this city. And we are bringing in more and more tournaments. And there will be more tournaments coming. And that's a great thing. It speaks to the facilities that we have. It's bringing in money from different cities and it's bringing and hosting recreational events, which are getting our community active, as well as other communities coming in benefiting the entire city. And for a lot of these things, they're not just coming for one night either. They're coming and they're spending money here. They're staying in hotels. And they're experiencing the city as well and going out and eating as well. So I think this is great. Um, this is something that, uh, I think we can fix this. There's, there's more available space there. We just have to look at it and use it better. So, um, it was great working with Councillo Sanic on this, uh, I hope that it passes. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Senek. Thank you, your worship. Yeah. Just to reiterate what Councillor Bohm has said for some of the tournaments held this year has been perking chaos. So at Woodbine Park, um, for one of the tournaments, provided over to, um, holy cross to park there, uh, and, you know, bring the parents back and forth. Whitbine Park also has the splash pad. So you still want the public to be able to use the splash pad during tournaments. Um, I know, I think it was last weekend. There was actually a warning that, um, don't use the splash pad because the perk was going to be so busy with the tournament on Saturday. And over at the infesta centre, yeah, pushes a lot of the parking to the business perk area. And, uh, depending on what's going on in the business park for those businesses, they might not want all the extra parking from the infesta centre over there. We're a victim of our own success, I suppose, having, um, so many sporting events at the same time. Um, at our parks and our recreational centres. Thank you. Thank you, Council Ramos. Thank you, Mr. Patterson, through you. Uh, happy to support my question is for staff on this for consideration. We know that InVista is going to be eventually getting a pool. And we know that the four ice pads, when the tournament taking place over the weekend, oftentimes, and I've gone through this myself when parents are attending a tournament, they will often camp out there for the day. Um, and when you've got a multi - use facility like InVista and then you suddenly inject a large 10 lane pool that potentially could have, uh, tournaments happening at the exact same time in the winter. Uh, I'm just wondering, is there, is there going to be consideration for either a parcade or we go up? Could staff comment a little bit on that concern. See you, Hurdle. Thank you. And through Mr. Mayor. So, um, thank you for the question councillor. We are looking at, uh, various options, obviously as we're going through the design for the aquatic expansion and partnership with the YMCA. And we're looking at scenarios where we would have, uh, essentially activity within the building at the same time. So various events or use at the same time. We are looking at, um, options which include structure, but also looking at offsite parking. So surrounding properties that could accommodate possibly, uh, the same number of vehicles or potentially more. So we are, uh, looking at all these options right now. This will be finalised before the final design is completed. So I'm anticipating within the next, um, couple of months we'll have a good idea of where we're going with parking for the InVista. Perfect. That's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Thank you. Thank you. Next is Councillor Chase. Thank you. I thought Councillor Amos was going to take my question. But, uh, he did not, um, but before we actually get to the point of having Parquet or extra parking at the visit centre, the investitor is going to be complete mess next year when we get shelves on the ground. So that's going to cause issues with parking. So have we looked into the possibilities of parking when we're in the actual construction zone of the aquatic facility. Commissioner Campbell. Thank you. And through you. I can certainly start. And if CAO hurdle has additional points to add, I certainly invite her to make them over the phase of the construction. We're certainly looking at the phase, uh, operation of the site. And that would include balancing the potential bookings against the parking availability. So in addition to what we're doing at present, which is seeking adjacent land parking in private lots, uh, we would continue to do that over the period of the build. Um, but we also have to consider whether or not, you know, it would be ill - advised to have the entirety of the facility booked out for one purpose. And then also have something perhaps happening on Carico Field, for example. Um, but we would certainly include that as part of the phasing. And that's an expectation of the successful, um, will be an expectation of the successful contractor. Thank you. I'm glad that, uh, staff of the way you look into that. Thank you. Okay. Uh, anybody else on new motion number one. Okay. We will call the vote, please. And that carries. Okay. Number two, moved by Councillor Sanex. Second of all, Councillor Schninnini. Whereas the use of lakehold traps have been seen in the King's Court Williamsville district and also in the Colin's Bayridge District that have caught raccoons and killed scunts. Whereas two thirds of the admissions at the sandy pines wildlife centre come from the city of Kingston and the centres receive several wildlife species that have either died in leg hold traps or had to be euthanized because of the severe damage sustained and leghold traps. Whereas Lake Hold traps and flicks severe prolonged suffering on wildlife. And they pose an extreme unmanageable risk of injury or death to domestic pets. Local wildlife and children and densely populated areas. Whereas these restraining devices trap animals for hours or days causing immense pain, panic, dehydration and exposure until a trapper returns to dispatch them. Whereas a municipal bylaw empowers local bylaw and animal control officers to investigate issue fines and sees illegal traps on the spot. Therefore be it resolved, the Council Direct staff to repair a report, respecting the regulation of leg hold traps within the city of Kingston, including a review of the city's legislative authority. Best practices from other monetary municipalities and options to amend the animal control byla and or community standards bylaw to prohibit or regulate the use of glycol traps within the municipality while ensuring consistency with the applicable provincial legislation. The staff report back to Council with recommendations by the end of Q1 2027. Councillor Sanek, you have the floor. Thank you, your worship. This motion's necessary because the wildlife that's been caught in Lake Code traps, um, on Cannot Street in 2023, and more recently in June, there were several skunks that have been caught in Lake Ho traps on along the backyard, the back part of Coronation Boulevard. So we just heard that, um, uh, some animals in Lake Ho traps have been brought to sandy pines. Wildlife Centre. They definitely get a lot of our Kingston animals there. And there's no way for the traps to distinguish between what's, you know, a Wyode animal versus someone's pet or dog. Other cities do have such a bylaw. There's Snapny. There's Guelph. Vaughn, Cambridge in Agrifals. And so this motion is asking, Steph, to investigate like which cities have it. And to bring back, um, the best motion of the mall to Council. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else on the motion too? Councillor Tanney. Go ahead. Thank you. And through you. Yeah. I want to add too much because, uh, Councillor, uh, withstand excited very well, happy to second this, um, this is something we've been talking about for actually long, long time now. And finally we have it here. So and I really hope that you can support this because it's, uh, something that's really needed. Thank you. Anybody else. Okay. We will call the vote on new motion number two. And that carries. Okay. A new motion number three. I will, uh, hand the chair over to the deputy mayor. If you can, uh, take us through the next motion, please. Yeah. If you can read it, that would be great. Cut me off guard. Thank you. Thank you Mayor Paterson. I'll receive the chair. So we have, um, uh, move by Mayor Patterson, seconded by Councillor Ridge. Whereas Canada and the U. S. share a historical and mutually beneficial trading relationship with businesses workers and consumers in both countries benefiting from integrated supply chains and cross - border trade. And whereas the U. S. has recently imposed additional tariffs up to 50 percent and 20 billion dollars worth of Kenny and goods following the breakdown of Canada, U. S. Trade Negotiations. And whereas the ongoing tariffs trade and economic uncertainty are placing more pressure on local businesses, workers, manufacturers, farmers, exporters, and whereas Kingston's local businesses manufacturers, farmers, entrepreneurs, and service providers are fundamental to the strength, vitality, and resilience of our local economy. And whereas buying local and choosing Canadian - made products and services keeps money in our community. Supports local jobs and strengthens our economic resilience and whereas the City can lead by example through responsible procurement and using our voice and communication channels to encourage and promote local businesses. Therefore, be it resolved. That Council encourage residents and businesses to buy local by Canadian by choosing Kingston - owned businesses, local, or Canadian - made products and services wherever possible. And that Council Direct staff to promote local businesses, service providers, retailers, restauranters. And satura through the city's existing communications channels and in partnership with the Greater Kingston Chamber of Commerce. Kingston Ekdev, tourism, Kingston, Kingston Accommodation Partners on the downtown BIA. And that tariff working group, be created with representatives from the local business community partners and organisations to identify strategies to mitigate the impacts of ongoing Canadian U. S. trade uncertainty. Coordinate Communication Efforts, share information, and best practices. And collaborate on advocacy's effort to support Kingston businesses, workers, and local economy, and that Councillor Direct staff to work with other major local employers to explore joint procurement possibilities and opportunities to prioritize local Ontario and Canadian suppliers and products where possible by relevant legislation trade agreements and city policy and that Council call on the government of Canada and Ontario to continue working to protect local workers and businesses strengthen domestic supply chains and secure a fair deal that supports a stable trading relationship with the United States and that this resolution be forwarded to the Prime Minister of Canada, the premier of Ontario, the Honourable Dominique LeBlanc, Communist of Internal Trade of Canada, Canada U. S. Trade Intergovernmental Affairs, and one Canadian economy, the Honourable Francois Philippe Champagne. Minister of Finance and National Review, the Honourable Melanie Jolie, a Ministry of Industry, the Honourable Menender Assidu, Minister of International Trade of Canada, Mark Garritson MP for Kingston and the islands, Ted Xu, MPP for Kingston, the islands, the Association of Olydies of Ontario and the Federation of Canadian Municipalities. Mayor Paterson, you have five minutes. Thank you. Thank you, Jepudy Mayor, for reminding me not to go overtime. So the first thing I'm going to say is, as we all know around this table, this is not the first time that we have looked at emotion along these lines. It was, I believe in February of 2025. When we realised that the relationship with the United States had changed under the Trump administration. And at that point, that we were entering a new era of trade tension and tariffs. I think it is fair to say that in the last couple of weeks, that that trade tension has gone to a whole new level. In the words of our prime minister, we are at war because we were attacked. So I think first and foremost, this is an important statement from our council. I think showing solidarity with the prime minister and with the country and the need to be able to push back against incredibly aggressive and unreasonable demands from the U. S. The second thing, though, is to recognise that this is going to be painful. Uh, we have to be prepared that this trade war, uh, could go on for some time. Fortunately, compared to some other communities in the province and across the country, we have been spared much of the direct effects of this new round of tariffs. But mag no mistake. We are not immune from the indirect effects from this terraform, which will be substantial. I've spoken with many business owners. Some of our small and medium - sized businesses that are struggling just with the sheer uncertainty of what is going on right now. And the challenges and the difficulties that everything from managing, hiring decisions, investment decisions, supply chains. This is an incredibly difficult time for many of our businesses. And so as you can see, one of the critical parts of this is really an encouragement to our community to once again pull together in the midst of this very challenging moment to make sure that we are supporting one another. And so a bi - local, by Canadian movement, I think it's incredibly important here in Kingston. You'll see that the piece where it's looking at teamwork. How can we work together? How can we work together with employers in the city? How can we work together with other municipalities to explore other procurement options? So again, we can support buying Canadian. And then finally, you'll see a piece on a tariff working group. This is not meant to be some formalized committee structure. It really is just a matter of pulling together the great work that is already happening in our community, putting people around the same table, sharing knowledge and making sure that we are all speaking from the same song book that we are communicating well to our community and beyond so that we can demonstrate the resilience that I know exists in Kingston. That we can get through this, that we can demonstrate that at the end of the day we can come out stronger on the other side of this, understanding that there are choppy waters ahead of us to navigate. So with that, I will ask Council to support this motion so that we can get to work helping to support workers, helping to support businesses, helping to support everyone in our community through the challenging times ahead. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Patterson. Does anyone have some comments or questions? And I see Councillor Emoth. Okay, one sec, guys. Thank you, Deputy Mayor, through you. Um, just a quick comment, um, Mayor Paterson, very, very happy to support your motion. And my only comments would be we're already feeling these effects. If staff, not staff, if Council recall, uh, a month, two months ago, Invista laid off a number of staff or employers, um, and a lot of that was already the pressure is being felt by the tariffs. And our small, medium - sized employers are already feeling, and I've met with like you. I've met with a number of them. Had a lot of concern being brought forward in regards to their own supply chains and what they're feeling. So happy to support. My only comment, and in regards to the working group. And I know you said it's fairly loose. I would just love to see Crossrepresentation. I think the city is no longer just a tourism city. We are a much fuller wholesome city with many lenses and viewpoints. And I think that working group will provide good guidance and ideas for helping to navigate the very choppy waters. Happy to support. Thanks. Okay, thanks. I have Councillor Tozo next. Thank you, Deputy Mayor, through you. Uh, I just want to talk about sort of the broader context of what's going on internationally, because my background is very natural relationships. And you do a lot work in the United States. I think if you would have told me a decade ago that President Trump would be renaming Lake Ontario Lake America and playing tariffs on Canada, I thought we were talking about a movie or some other planet. Um, I want to just sort of emphasize that I know a lot of Americans, and I have a lot of relationships and friendships with a lot of Americans. And they don't support what the American administration is doing. They're the own support the tariffs. They don't support renaming a great lake. Um, many of them are just as horrified. There's a lot of sensible people in the United States. Perhaps not in the administration, but certainly average decent hardworking Americans who just want to get back to normal. And I think one thing I have really understood about Canadians from coast to coast is regardless of our diversity and our differences. And there are many from left, centre, and right from many different walks of life is how well we can ban together when we need to. How well we've got each other's backs when we have to. Uh, I just want to say I know we will get through these hard times. And I think normal is going to come back. And I think I'll come back with a vengeance. Maybe it won't be the same as it was before, but I think I still think that there's no one saying America does the right thing when they exhausted all other options. I think they will go back to doing the right thing. And I think I wanted to just send a message to our American people who don't support this president that we're waiting for normal to return. Thank you. Thank you. Unex. I have Councillor Ridge. Oh, thank you, Deputy Mayor. And through you. Yes, I was happy to second this motion and to have some collaboration with Mayor Paterson on this. I think that there is a number of very important pieces that have been touched on. And I want to thank the mover for breaking them down. Uh, so well. I think that at the end of the day, and I also, I also want to second councillor, Amos's Point, which is what I was going to raise is that I can't just be about the tourism industry. We have to look at our farmers. We have to look at our farmer's markets. We have to look at other vendors, smaller businesses. And I know that, you know, that representation will ultimately be there. But, uh, it's always important to emphasize nonetheless. Um, yeah, no, I've been hearing a lot, uh, from business owners, from employees about their concerns. We've been hearing it for some time, uh, we were recently in Ottawa for the Association Municipalities of Ontario. I've definitely heard it from a number of representatives from businesses there as well. But at the end of the day, I mean, I'm concerned about businesses, business owners, but I mean, I'm really concerned about employees and just the average working person that's going to be affected by this. That's already being affected by so many other affordability issues. And that this is compounding onto them, um, and so I'm really hopeful that as Councillo Tozo said that, you know, we're seeing people pull together in all sorts of ways that are amazing, frankly. That we, through this motion and through action as Council and through the city, um, can help to encourage that in a more structured way. In our community with all the people, businesses. And wonderful, wonderful minds and hearts that are here. And so I hope that you will support this motion. Hope you will buy local by Canadian. Thank you. Okay. And seeing no one else, Mayor Paterson. Oh, sorry. We have one more. Go ahead, Councillor Hasan. I didn't see it. Thank you. Thank you, your deputy worshipped. I appreciate Mayor Bryan Paterson and Councillor Ridge for bringing this motion. It's a very important. Most I like to encourage the Canadian cause to coast. That is the time for us as a nation to show the strength, show the togetherness and show the cranianism and stand behind our all level of government and supporting each other and let the word know the time like this, whether it is economic war or any kind of war. We are together. We don't let anybody think about us to take an over our sovereignty or our country. We are together. We are ready to fight and we will fight to every level we can to save our sovereignty and support our country and support our government. And I really appreciate our federal government to standing strong. And together in this time of war. And I really appreciate the Council and I have, uh, I'm happily will support that this motion. And we will continue show that togetherness. Thank you. Did I miss anybody else? Everybody's good. I'm Mayor Paterson. You have the final word. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. Thank you for the excellent comments around the table. So just to respond to a couple of great points. So number one, yes, the goal of this tariff working group would to make a very broad cross section of different organisations. We've mentioned a few, but it's not an exclusive list. We know that we have representatives of the Chamber of Commerce here, which I think are a great voice of some of our small and medium sized businesses that are particularly, you know, struggling and vulnerable at this time. Obviously we have other business support organisations. But I think during the pandemic about the Kingston Economic Recovery team, how we brought in the nonprofit sector. We brought in really anybody that was being impacted either directly or indirectly. And so we would love to do the same thing again. The second piece to Councillor Toso's Point, I think it's very important, as you say, to emphasize the continuing ongoing friendships and relationships that we have with communities south of the border. Just yesterday, uh, I joined MP Garritson and NBP Shu in sending a formal thank you letter to the city of Rochester that Pastor Proclamation reaffirming it as like Ontario, uh, which again, you know, they're sticking their necks up, obviously, but it matters to them. And we know we have other good relationships with the city of Syracuse with Watertown, with other communities. And so, uh, I do think it's important as much as we are pulling together in a bi - Canadian and by local approach that it is not in any way a reflection on our relationship with those communities that quite frankly, know better. Uh, and are very supportive of us, uh, in this fight. So, so thank you for those comments. I appreciate the supportive council and let's get to work supporting our community. And I too look forward to the day when seen her heads will prevail and we'll be able to get on with the benefits of trade that is a win - win and makes everyone better off. So thank you very much. Thank you for that. Okay. We'll call the vote. In that processing unanimously. And I returned the chair to you, Mayor Patterson. Okay. Thank you very much. Uh, we are now moving to our final motion tonight, moved by Councillor Stephen, sectored by cancer Amos. Whereas the city of Kingston has a responsibility to promote responsible pet ownership and public safety while operating within the legislative authority available to municipalities. Whereas recent incidents involving dogs have raised community concerns regarding dogs at large, off leash activity, dangerous dogs, and the measures available to the city to prevent and respond to incidents. Whereas dog owners have a responsibility to maintain care and control of their animals. And there may be opportunities to further educate the public regarding these responsibilities and the enforcement tools available to the city. Therefore be resolved that Council Direct staff to undertake a review the city's animal control bylaw and related policies and procedures concerning dogs at large, off - leash dogs, and dangerous dogs and report back to Council with any recommended amendments. And that is part of the review, staff, examine and report on one. The city's current approach to offleash dogs, includs, including enforcement practices available enforcement data and a comparison with other Ontario municipalities. Two, the legislative and enforcement tools available to the city when a dog attacks, it injures, or otherwise presents a risk to a person or domestic animal, including the respect of authorities available under the city's animal control bylaw, and the dog owner's liability act. Three, the city's current public safety dog seizure, muzzle order, and related enforcement processes, including whether additional preventative measures or policy changes should be considered. Four, opportunities to strengthen preventative measures intended to reduce drugs at large and dog - related incidents. Five, whether the city has the legislative authority to require fencing or other physical containment measures for dogs generally, or in circumstances involving dogs that have demonstrated aggressive or dangerous behaviour, and where the such measures are recommended. Six, opportunities for enhanced public education regarding responsible dog ownership, leadership requirements, owner responsibilities, and the respective roles and the mutations of municipal enforcement. Seven, The set finds minimum fines, maximum fines, administrative penalties. Another remedies legally available under the city's animal control bylaw, the municipal Act 2000. One or any other legislation for violations related to dogs at large, off - leash dogs, and dangerous dogs, including whether amendments should be considered. Eight, the city's process for communicating with and supporting victims of dog attacks, including whether or not to extend the principles of Ontario's victim bill of rights, 1995, are reflected or should be reflected in the city's processes or policies. Nine, any recommended amendments to the animal control bylaw policies, procedures, or enforcement practices arising from the review, and that staff undertake a targeted enforcement and education initiative, respecting dogs at large and off - lease requirements, and we're feasible collected relevant data during the initiative to help inform the staff report. Councillor Stephen, you have the floor. Thank you, Mayor Paterson. It was not quite as long as your motion, but I tried. Um, I want to thank Councillor Amos for seconding this motion in City staff as well for helping put it together. Council will remember, I'm sure, at our last meeting, we heard from a delegation who also spoke to us tonight. And at the last meeting she described a terrible dog attack that she experienced. And I just want to offer condolences. I think we were all quite surprised at that story and maybe didn't have our wits about us to say anything at that time, but I think we're all very sorry for her loss. I'm sure. Um, I know that to many people docs aren't just seen as pets. They're considered to be important members of the family. Um, but like most things, there are multiple truths here. And so it's also true that councillors receive regular complaints from constituents about off - leash dogs and public places. And it's an ongoing problem. Um, I'm really hopeful that this motion is a step in the right direction to us trying to address these concerns. At the core, the motion is about making sure everyone can safely enjoy our public spaces. It direct staff to review the city's policies and compare to other municipalities to make sure we are using best practices to balance the needs of dog owners with the safety, comfort, and enjoyment of others who use our public spaces. Because our parks, our trails, our sidewalks and our public spaces are for everyone. I'll leave it there. Thank you. Thank you, is there anybody else that wishes to speak Council Ridge. Oh, thank you, your worship and for you. This is a question for staff. So the dog owners liability act has been mentioned on several in this motion, but also, I'm just curious, where's the threshold for, you know, it being civil, uh, liability as opposed to a criminal charge when we're talking about neglect in the handling of a dog, an injuries. Smartly. Thank you. And through your worship, a civil aspect to it, but the city does itself have a number of tools available to it under the dog owner's liability act. The city actually has the ability to commence proceedings before the Ontario Court of Justice against a dog owner in the case that there is an attack or a byte. And then the court has the ability to issue various remedies ranging from destruction of the dog muzzle orders, things like that. Uh, the court can also ban the individual from owning a pet for a certain period of time. So there certainly is a municipal role here in addition to the civil piece. So thank you, your worship and for you. So just to go back to the last part, the city actually has the ability to ban someone from owning an animal or a dog. Miss Marley. Thank you. And through your worship. The city has the ability to apply to the court for an order banning an individual from ordering a pet. The city itself wouldn't be doing it in that scenario under the dog owner's liability act. Thank you. Through your worship, duly noted. That was my mistake. Okay. Um, okay. So yeah, I'm in support of this motion. And I do as Councillor, as the mover has said, I've received a number of complaints and many of which have been forwarded to by about people with their dogs off leash. Um, so I'm happy to support this and see what additional instruments and, uh, methods there are for ensuring compliance, uh, moving forward. So thank you. Okay. Thank you. Councillor Chapes. Thank you. Um, a new support this motion. There's been issues with each dogs and non - off leash parks. Um, however. This year which I have, it talks about the dogs and not the owners. The root issue are journey not the dogs or the breeds because we've heard about dangerous dogs. Um, I believe it's more the owners. Um, it's, it's how they treat their dogs and how they train their dogs. And if an owner demonstrates they are not capable of properly handling or training their dog, then they should probably be banned from dog ownership. And sort of has been mentioned the previous, um, council meetings with our delegation. So on that point, um, I'd like to put forward an amendment, please. Okay. Uh, so we have a motion to amend by cancer shaves. The new motion number four beingted in the second operative clause bullet point number seven to add and or ban of future dog ownership following maximum fines so that it reads as follows. Set fines, a minimum finds, maxi and or ban of future dog ownership, uh, is there seconder. Seconded by Councillor Sun? Okay. Councillor Shaves, uh, you have the floor. I think I've already said most of what I want to say. This. The motion itself is just a review of our dog control policy. And this just gives staff an extra item that can include in the review. Um, which will eventually come back to us. And then we'll decide then that's all I'll have to say. Thank you. Okay. Council Ramos. On the amendment. Thanks for passing through you. Quick question for a city solicitor. Given the, uh, question that Councillor Ridge asked and the answer you gave, the impression I got was that this, that mechanism was already available to staff. Can you confirm or enlighten me a little bit more on this sportly? Thank you. And through your worship, you're correct. Um, under doula, the city can already apply for an order from the court prohibiting dog ownership. Given that, I see the motion. I appreciate what the mover is doing with this motion. What I see the motion as redundant. And I don't see a need for this because that tool mechanism is already there and confirmed by our city solicitor. I won't be supporting this. Anybody else on the motion to amend. To shave this you have last word. I think it will take this opportunity. Um, the operating may be there for staff. To take that opportunity of bending ownership of dogs for those, um, owners who are responsible enough. However, I think it makes a greater point if we actually have it in the review. And then mentioned this is a review. And we'd be coming back to us later on. And, uh, it just gives that tool in the indication that we are taking this seriously. So I do hope people will support this. Thank you. Okay. We will call the vote then on the motion to amend. That carries by vote of 10 to two. Councillor Stephen and Amos in the minority. Okay. We are back to then the main motion as amended. Councillor Schaeves, is there anything else that you want to say to the main motion? Okay. Um, next on my list is Councillor Amos. Thank you, Palace. And through you. Just some further comments. In my district. I have a family that's in mourning. I have a neighbourhood that's in fear. And this motion coming forward, I think will help, um, with some of those mechanisms of what is needed. You saw tonight from Mr. Poo. Her comments in the previous Council, uh, when she was here making comments. Her family is struggling. And she and I have had a number of emails exchanging trying to help, uh, navigate this motion. And I appreciate the mover bringing us forward and allowing me to add some stuff to it. Um, I'm hoping this will give the staff more tools, uh, I fully welcome the review. The number one complaint I get about my, uh, the biggest park in my district, Lake Ontario Park is awfully stocks. Um, and we need a mechanism for owners to seriously. Understand that not everyone, um. Has a love for animals or it gets nervous when a dog comes running up at them, even if it's in fun or ingest, or you can see the happy smile on the dog. Not everyone is able to accept that with open arms. And the reason we need to have our dogs on a leash. The other aspect is the bill of the victim's bill of rights. I think that's a mechanism that is needed. Um, to improve our communication with the victim so that they are kept a little bit more in the loop as much as they can be. And I think that will help with the process of what is being identified here. So happy to support. And I'm hoping this is a step in the right direction for our staff to give them some more tools. Thanks. Okay. Thank you. Next is cancer to Danny. Thank you. And through you. Yes, I'll be supporting this too. Um, so I've had, we used to have a dog a long time ago. And, uh, there was an awfully stock, um, who was a bigger dog, um, and I think it was, he was technically one of the band Ontario band breeds. And yeah, so he out of the blue just came up to my dog. And just like bit him in the face. And then it was, it was really quite traumatic, you know, seeing that. Um, but luckily. He ended up being okay, but it was just, you know, a big injury and lots of at bills. So, um, yeah, so I'll be supporting this because, you know, not everybody is lucky where, you know, your pedal survive and, you know, where you can just move on. But it's still traumatic because then you end up being a little cautious, more cautious around other dogs, even though like you have a very, like we had a very friendly dog, um, and, uh, yeah. And he was pretty shocked. But yeah, it was pretty traumatic. And yeah, so I'll be supporting this. Concert. Thank you, Mayor Paterson, through you. I do support this. I just have a few questions about current processes. What we're asking staff to do, uh, resourcing for bylaw. So if there's an awfully sh dog and it's violent and it's a recurring issue, what's the current enforcement mechanism or method for by law enforcement right now as it stands. Mr. Compo. Um, thank you through you. So there are, there's advanced enforcement mechanisms that we can use through administrative monetary penalties. Obviously for each situation, we have to review the circumstances around, uh, the attack itself. My camera's not on. Didn't see that. Um, we have to examine each situation independently. So first we look at monetary penalties. We look through our animal, uh, controlled bylaw. And then based on the circumstances, the nature of the, um, the vent, uh, and if there's repetition or if this is a sort of reoccurring situation, if the animal has a prior history, then we can elevate charges to the provincial level. And that would be through the dog or solubility act. Um, so there is sort of a sequence of events that we take through the enforcement process. But, um, you know, just frankly, I can understand the nature of the concerns. There are privacy and legal limitations on what information that the city can disclose. And I know that's very difficult for individuals while we're going through those processes. So I, um, I, I can understand where the motion is coming from. And I'm happy to come back to Council and provide statistical information along with, uh, a full review of, uh, just the comprehensive process to one individual incident. Thank you. Um, speaking to staff capacity, like if we enhance the enforcement mechanism, do we have the staff capacity to sort of meet the expectations? Cause one, I think as we've discussed around the horseshoe before on several occasions is it's good to have policy on the books, but we also have to have the billet staff and staff members to enforce it. Um, do you feel comfortable that you have the enforcement capacity at the city currently. Uh. Three Mr. Mayor. I think staff capacity has been an issue on the table for By law enforcement over the past year. I think that would be part of the review that we would have to do through this, um, this, this time, uh, to understand what mechanisms and what resource capacities we have to do further enforcement measures. Um, so that'd be something we would be taking a look at through this review. Thank you. Yeah. Please do come back with like what a compliment would look like to deal with this issue or what additional staffing capacity would be helpful. It helps Council make decisions, especially during budget time for our priorities. Thank you very much. Thank you. Anybody else that wants to speak. Councillor Stephen, you have last word. Thank you Mayor Paterson. Um, I grew up in the country and we didn't have to worry about leashing our dog because my parents lived in 29 acres of bush. So the dog just went, did its thing and never disappeared and came back. So living in the city is completely different than that. And I think it's also safe to say that behaviour expectations change depending on your location. So a very simple example that I would use with students would be the way we behave in the gym is different from the way we behave in the library. How is that different? And I think one of the things we need to consider is dog behaviour or dog expectations would be different in an osliesh park or an offence backyard than they are in a public space in an urban area. It's not the same thing. So as far as our off leash dog parks go, there was a report that came to ARCP back in 2023 about off - leaf dogs and our, sorry, not about awfully dogs about awfully dug parks. And the service levels we have in the city of Kingston are bonkers. They are really, really good. So we have a huge amount of offleash dog opportunities for people who want to use them. I just want. It's really difficult because it's so simple, right? Just leash your dog in a public place. It's not a difficult message to deliver, but I think part of it too is I can't remember who mentioned it, but, um, you get in your head that I love my dog. And so therefore everybody else must too. I think part of this too is being able to take different perspectives. Being able to be a fully grown adult and taking the perspective of a child who was at face height with a dog is a very different experience. So I'm sure staff will come up with some great communication tools. I know that we've all been, you know, working through the off - leash dog situation. But I'm hopeful that this is a step on the right direction and that we'll see some traction here and perhaps some behaviour change. I think you. Will call the vote then on new motion number four. And that carries. Okay, we have no other new motions. Are there any notices of motion. Clerk cross for minutes, please? Move by Councillor McLaren seconded by Councillo Senek at the minutes of City Council meeting 2026 17 held Tuesday, August 11th, 2026 be confirmed. Golden favor. And that's carried. Is there any other business. Okay. Madam Clerk Boss for bylaws, please. Councillor McLaren. Thank you. May I have five and six separated again, please. Okay. So we will separate five and six. Madam Kirk. Moved by Councillor Bohm Second and by Councillor Ridge, the bylaws one, two, and seven received their first and second reading. Oh, it's in favor. And that's carried. Move by Councillor Boam Second by Councillor Ridge that bylaw numbers five and six receive third reading. All this in favor. Yep. Let's go ahead. Thank you. We all know how this came about the Indian Road. Change. Yeah. Decide to vote on this. Depends on how you feel about real consultation and some of the stuff that happened behind the scenes. You could be complicit in this. So please vote against this. Okay. All those in favor. Opposed. That's carried cancer of Sanek Osterhoff. Deputy Mayor Osterhoff at Cats McLaren opposed. Okay. Motion to adjourn, please move back. Oh, I'm sorry. Although there, Madam Clerk going by Councillor Boam Sekna by Councillor Ridge that viola numbers two through four and seven receive third reading. Although those in favor. Opposed. And that's carried. Now motion to adjourn. We were by Councillor Steven. Second of i Council Bohm. Old Dildes in favor opposed and reagent. Thank you very much.