← Back to summary
Full Transcript
Council Approves Enhanced Waterfront Recreation - 02 Jun 26
Kingston · June 05, 2026
Thanks, Jesus.
All good evening, everyone. Sego Ani Boujou NDO Wachia Cue.
As the mayor of the city of Kingston, I offer
these words in the spirit of this gathering. Let us
bring our good minds and hearts together as one, to
celebrate these traditional lands as a gathering place of the
original peoples and their ancestors who are entrusted to care
from other earth since time immemorial. It is with deep
humility that we acknowledge and offer our gratitude for their
contributions to this community having respect for all as we
share the space now and walk side by side into
the future. So we were meeting in Committee of the
Whole Closed meeting. We did discuss several items. The Lemoine
Point Farm Update or Proposed Acquisition or Disposition of Land,
the Elgonquin Lakeshore Catholic District School Board, and also a
highway two property. So I will ask for a motion
to rise with that reporting, please. Move by Councillor Amos,
sechnet by Councillor Tozo, the Council rise from the Committee
of the Whole Closed Meeting without reporting. All those in
favor. Opposed, and that's carried. Okay, next we have the
approval of the addendum. We just have the addition of
a couple of delegations. Can I get a mover in
a second here for the, at its move by Dimir
Steven, seconded by cancer Tozo. All those in favor opposed,
and that's carried. Are there any disclosures to potential bikini
interests Councillor Amos. Thank you, Mayor Paterson, through you. Hi,
Don Amos Councillor for the City Kingston declare conflict of
interest with respect to report 26 - 158. A Gonquin
Lakeshore Catholic school board surplus sites. I'm an employee with
the seniors Association Kingston Region, which is interested in purchasing
one or both of these schools to deliver community programming.
Thank you, Councillor Bohm. Thank you, worship, and through you.
I, Ryan Bohm, the Council of the Corporation of City
Kingston, declare my cuneary interests in the matter of clause
through report number 51. I declare an interest in so
far as this moston may relate to utilities Kingston. That's
been duly submitted to the clerk. Thank you. Okay, thank
you. See no other disclosure is we will move on.
We have no presentations this evening, but we do have
two delegations. So first I will invite Catherine Belsud and
Nicole DeScenny to appear before Council to speak to Clause
1. Report number 51 from the CAO, respect to the
naming rights and scope for the swimming dock and water
play area and floor McDonald Confederation Basin and inflatable water
park alternate location. Just a reminder to our delegations that
you have up to five minutes, and then we'll open
it up to questions from Council. Well, just ask you
to, if you just tap. The on button there, and
there we go. Oh, as long as you don't take
it out of my file. I will not. You've got
five minutes. Okay, I must say to you all, it's
a pleasure, Mayor Patterson and members of the Council, as
well as all members of staff who are here tonight
as opposed to being outside in that beautiful weather. So
I'm happy to be here. I will tell you that
given the short notice, we had for this meeting and
for the issues you have to discuss. I'm here in
spirit representing a lot of background information people. And I
can cite a few of them waterkeepers, great lakes waterway,
pathway, and on and on, I could go. So in
spirit, I hope to make sure that you understand their
sentiments. Um, I would like to, number one, thank you
all for having open spirits and for having listened to
us as a delegations to you to talk about our
concerns. As citizens in the entire city of Kingston, because
we're not one issue people. We're concerned about what happens
everywhere. So I'd like to start off by saying of
the three points you're going to be asked to vote
on today. I'll be brief. And I say number one,
we're very happy that you have the option to not
proceed with the Patriot aquatic park. That was very important
to us from the get - go and happy to
see that there. The second point is the third point
of your asks for voting tonight, which is the movement
of the idea for an aquatic park to another location.
And in your remarks, it's a grass creek park. I
mean, there are potentially after investigation other opportunities. If it's
looked at in depth. So thank you. We congratulate you
on those two points. And we look forward to actually
seeing your debate on those issues. I'm coming to you
from the following perspective. This is the public reaction to
what they found out as it was presented in the
news on Thursday, I believe it was, with their first
notice. So this is what they had to say. As
the bedrock of all their commentary, it was the following
position. There's some mention about the promenade in even this
report, but it's not explicit. It's just alluding to the
promenade park. What everyone in the community wants to see
is that the Council, in a determined fashion, vote to
say we are building the Confederation Basin Parkway, that is
the promenade. Because it's been from 2016 when it was
first proposed to 2022, when it was voted on there
are no shovels in the ground. So people are saying,
can't they get with it? Isn't it possible for them
to do it? And now they're coming and they're actually
saying we want add - ons. So please understand my
comments with that baseline. Get to it is what they
want to say. Let's get it done. Okay. With that
regard, point number two, and it was saying that, that,
that in the report, not one, two, three. But the
second one is with regard to an original patry idea,
which was we will have a swimming platform, and we'll
have swimming area enhanced. And then toilets, and then change
rooms added. So these are the concerns that are brought
to our attention. That we have never had reports back
from staff in the course of this year with regard
to the questions that were asked about the purity of
the actual water. It's a closed basin. There's a marina.
There is the oil slick coming across that waterway. There
isn't an influx of fresh water, accepting where the entry
is to the marina. That is a problematic point of
view. Until those reports come forward, the community isn't willing
to say, well, why would we move on that? We
don't know. Secondly, it's a brownfield. The water underneath, as
one guy in the kingstonist pointed out, he put an
anchor down because he moored his boat there. And the
anchor came back with tar on it. So kids jumping
into the water off of a water platform. And creating
a slurry there may not be the healthiest. So we
would like to see reports on the safety, environmental safety
of that basin before the community would be all excited
about having that done. We have also considerations for safety
because the marina is there. Boats come in. Young kids
now are taking electronic speed boat things going through the
base in there and having a good time. But there
isn't any demarcation that's clear as to where there would
be safety for swimmers who would actually be in the
water enjoying it. 30 seconds. In the official plan, I
want to say the steps going down and they were
happy to see that because we get an idea of
what the buy will be for the full project. Now
I have 30 seconds. I've been told. Now you have
15 seconds. I have 15 seconds. I want to thank
the Council and all of the staff for taking us
seriously and listening to our concerns. We can't be more
gratified than that. We've gone around to meet all of
the Councillor's Minus one. And I'm happy to say people
listen to us. Staff as well. So thank you very
much. Thank you. I appreciate your time. Thank you. Uh,
are there any questions for the delegation? Okay. See none.
Thank you very much, ma'am. Thank you. Is there a
question? No question? No, you're free to go. Thank you
very much. Okay. Next our second and final delegation this
evening. We'll invite Riverstone to appear before Council to speak
to new motion number one regarding dress your room, equity
and allocation for ICE user groups. Uh, river. I see
you. Oh, there we go. I see you and, uh,
you have the floor. Okay. Great. Thank you so much.
Um, so I'm here today to speak about, um, regarding
motion 19, uh, the stated goal of this motion is
to review and amend the ICE allocation policy and guidelines
to support equitable access for female participants. And I'm here
specifically to provide some insights and recommendations on some changes
needed, uh, basically around the language to more effectively meet
this goal. Um. For sorry, uh, would you be able
to go to the next slide, please. Thank you. Um,
regarding terminology, there are quite a few terms, but I'm
going to be focusing specifically around three for this. The
first is gender identity, which is a person's sense of
their own gender. Uh, sex, which is the physical characteristics
that historically have been broadly categorized as male and female
and transvestigations. This is a combination of the words transgender
and investigation. This is a informal discriminatory practice of investigating
whether a person is secretly trans. This is done through
the analysing of a person's appearance and anatomical structure. It's
transphobic invasive damaging and can happen to anyone regardless if
they are trans or cis, especially because all it takes
for this to occur is one person questioning another one
where you quote unquote belong. Transvestigations also disproportionately affect women
and racialized members of our community. Um, next slide, please.
So where I'm coming from with, uh, today is that,
uh, the motion that I'm speaking to as well as
the policy that needs revision, uh, there is a combination
of both sex based and identity based language used. Uh,
I'm here to advocate that the city of Kingston abandoned
the sex - based language going forward. If our policies
and our social norms continue to centre sex this further,
this furthers these systemic erasure of intersex people justifies discrimination
and exclusion of trans people as well as breeds of
culture that normalizes transvestigations. Furthermore, if the policy revision uses
exclusively identity - based language going forward, this will better
support the city council's goal of inclusion and equitable access.
By having policies that centre identity over sex, uh, you
create equitable access not only for women, but also non
- binary people, uh, and this is for everybody regardless
of their identity expression or sex. Next slide, please. So,
uh, I also wanted to speak about why this matters.
On this slide here, you'll see eight different individuals who
cover a diverse range of identity and expression. Each person
has their own combination of experiences. But to highlight the
diversity within this slide, seven of these people are athletes
with specifically three of them being ice users themselves. Five
of these people are trans, four of them are women,
four Canadian, two are intersex. And you wouldn't be able
to tell any of this by just looking at them.
So, but what's most relevant about all of these individuals
is that they have very publicly experienced discrimination due to
the sex. They were assigned at birth. And now advocate
for themselves and their community. I've shared their names because
they have already done so publicly and embraced fighting the
discrimination, um, but who I can't show you on my
screen right now, our local Kingston athletes who have to
continue this work in their day - to - day
lives. Um, our community is absolutely seeking to understand. But
these things take time. And until then, it's important that
we minimize the labour. Who I can't show you on
this screen right now, our trans individuals in Kingston who
get harassed while accessing public spaces, who I also can't
show you are trans youth who hesitate getting involved in
sport leagues due to the hostility that is common for
queer and gender nonconforming people. And additionally, I also can't
show you Kingston athletes who choose to remain in the
closet because they can't come out without complicating their position
in a league. To summarize, this matters because people matter.
Both the ones featured in my presentation who had to
overcome their discrimination in a very public way as well
as the people who live here locally in Kingston who
are just trying to live their lives without having to
add for gate for themselves at every single turn while
accessing a public space. Um, next slide, please. 30 seconds.
Perfect. Thank you. Um, so in conclusion, uh, to summarize,
I'm looking to advocate that we specifically have the policy
review occur that operate on identity - based language and
to have the, have an amendment for the removal of
sex - based language. So that would be specifically, um,
retiring the use of male and female terminology. I also
wanted to take this opportunity to communicate that the erasure
of intersex and non - binary individuals is rarely intentional,
uh, but it is detrimental to everyone alike. And, uh,
thank you. Thank you. Just advocate that the policy changes
are do not normalize transvestigations. Thank you very much. Um,
I'll just, I'll just pause right there. Are there any
questions from council. Okay. Uh, Councillo, go ahead. Thank you
Mayor Patterson through you. Could you just elaborate on further
policy recommendations you'd like council to consider. Yeah. So, uh,
with the review that is currently, or sorry, for the
motion, my understanding of it is that, um, this is
if, if processed, uh, you guys are looking to have
the ICE allocation reviewed and then revised. And I'm asking
in that revision, um, that we ensure that it has
identity based language, uh, so we're not speaking to sex,
but rather how people identify. So would you just to
clarify, you'd prefer more like neutral language that doesn't die
if I mail female gender binaries or just more generic,
like inclusive language for different identities. If I'm understanding. I
think, yeah, it's, it's a great question. I think if
you're looking to speak to specifically women's issues, uh, the
use of the word woman is totally applicable. Um, but
it is when you're trying to advocate for women, if
you're using female, uh, that is where, um, exclusion of
different types of women can occur. Thank you very much.
Okay. Seeing other questions. River, thank you very much. Thank
you. Okay. And with that, uh, we have no further
delegations. So we will move on in our agenda. Are
there any petitions to present. And we have no deferred
motions. Uh, we do have a couple of special motions.
So first we have a motion of recognition. I moved
by Councillor Amos. Second by Councillor Shaves that Kings and
City Council recognised June as seniors month in the city
of Kingston in recognition and celebration of the vital role
that seniors play in building vibrant inclusive and resilient communities
within the city, through their experience, wisdom, volunteerism, and leadership.
Council remains committed to fostering an age - friendly environment
that supports active aging promotes de - respect for seniors
and ensures equitable opportunities for full community participation and encourages
all Kingston residents to honour the contributions of local seniors
and actively participate in the community events programs and initiatives
taking place for the month of June. Uh, second, we
have a motion of Condolence moved by Mayor Paterson, seconded
by Deputy Mayor Steven, that the Condolences of Kingston City
Council will be extended to the family and friends of
Walter Finland. Respected business leader, philanthropist, and dedicated community builder
whose contributions to Kingston left a lasting legacy. As founder
of Fenlin, financial Walter built a distinguished career in wealth
management while remaining deeply committed to civic service and charitable
giving. Lawnside his wife, Linda Andayle. He established the Finland
family daily Foundation in support of local charities, hospitals, universities,
and community initiatives. Ultra served in leadership roles with numerous
organisations, including Kingston General Hospital Hotel Gew Hospital, the Community
Foundation of Greater Kingston and the Grand Theatre Foundation. Was
just strong supporter of many important city building projects. Known
for generosity, Mentorship and Dedication to the community, Walter made
a profound impact on Kingston and the many lives he
touched. His passing is a great loss. He will be
deeply missed. Our thoughts are with Linda Anne, his family,
and loved ones during this difficult time. We will call
the vote. All those in favor. Opposed. And that's Keering.
Okay. With that, we will move to reports. First up,
we have report number 50 from the CAO. Move by
Councillor Shae, seconded by Councillor Amos that report number 50
from the Chief Administrative Officer consent be received and adopted.
Okay. Uh, there is just the one clause. Which is
the start of annual tax rebates for Brownfield project at
223 Princess Street. We will call the vote, please.
Councillor Osterhoff, is your online voting working your remote voting.
Okay. Um, as we have with other remote councillors, we
will mark you in favor unless you so indicate by
crossing your hands. Your arms. Thank you. Thank you. Okay.
And that carries. Next, we have report number 51 from
the CAO. Move by Councillor Ridge, sectioned by Councillor Toso.
The report number 51 from the Chief Administrative Officer recommend
be received and adopted clause by clause. Okay, clause one,
naming rights and scope for the swimming dock and water
play area and floor MacDonald Confederation Basin and inflatable water
park alternate location. Councillor. Thank you, Mayor Patterson, through you.
Um, I just have some questions related to costs and
400, 000 dollars for a washroom and change room and
the swimming platform. Um, how much of that is the
washroom. It's expensive. Miss El Grisma. The amount that is
being requested, um, as part of this, uh, report tonight
is the 400, 000 is essentially the, um, the balance
that is needed to complete the enhanced swimming dock, um,
without the sponsorship. So this sponsorship originally was to cover
the cost of the inflatable water park as well as
a portion of the, uh, this enhanced swimming dog. So
it does include the cost of the washroom. Uh, this
particular, uh, these funds that we're requesting tonight, um, through,
through the budget process, uh, 27, do not include the
washroom that was, um, previously approved in a, in a
previous Council meeting. Okay. Um, sorry Commissioner Campbell, do you
want to jump in. Uh, yeah, thank you. And through
you. I just wanted to add, so when council approved
the direction to explore the inflatables in addition to the
enhanced swim platform, Council approved an additional amount of money
at that time, which was then allocated towards making some
of those enhancements with the removal of the inflatable sponsorship
is where that 400, 000 dollars is now needed to
make up essentially the difference. Okay. Um, we're still looking
at their sponsorships to help lower that price. Is that
my reading of the report. Ms. Huckersman. Yes, I'm through
you. Uh, yes, absolutely. We are still seeking out sponsorships.
Um, other funding opportunities, um, there's at least one grant
application in the works right now. Um, and we are
hopeful that the additional funds coming forward, um, through those
means. Okay. Um, so is the washroom that's available accessible.
That we're building. Cause now that the lack of them
in the downtown. Yes. And through you. Uh, yes. The
washroom building, um, is accessible. There is one universal change
room that includes a change table and one standard, uh,
washroom. They're also change stalls, um, in addition to the
washroom, uh, whereas one is also accessible and want to
standard. But that's allocated absent of this motion tonight, correct?
Yes. And through you. Uh, yes. So this, the washerman
change room, um, additions were approved in the previous, through
previous motion at another meeting. Thank you. So if Council
doesn't prove this, what do we have left here. Like
what, what will this look like. Yes, and through you.
Um, if this amount tonight is not, or this is
not approved tonight, then essentially the promenade project would go
back, um, to the, uh, more of the original, I
guess, design. And we wouldn't be able to complete the,
um, the enhanced swimming dog. So there might be a
modest platform, but we would not be able to complete
the, uh, the swimming dot component. See, Ortl. Thank you.
And, uh, through you. So I'm not sure if you
recall councillors when we brought the report in 2025, it
was the, the original swimming platform was quite small. It
was essentially just a location for people to be able
to launch and go for a swim. This enhanced swimming,
um, platform that we're talking about is really more, um,
the creation of a bit of a swimming pool in
the lake, if you wish. It's that concept. It'll allow
actually people, and especially kids to have a more safe
environment for swimming in the lake. It also provides space
for parents to be around. It provides the ability for
partners to deliver programs and lessons even within that space.
So it's almost creating a bit of a swimming pool,
but, uh, in the lake. So it's, there would be
a significant program difference between the two. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Council Ramos. Thank you, Mayor Paterson, through you.
Just a couple of quick questions about the inflatable, um,
park. In the movement of it. My concern is removing
it to Grass Creek, which is a great park. However,
it's not very accessible. We don't have transit out there.
Um, and it's not really supportive for tourism. It's not
supportive to really a lot of our families. And I'm
just wondering the thought process is Grass Creek, the only
option that we are considering right now. Are we looking
at Lake Ontario Park? Are we looking at any other
option that at least would have some sort of transit
availability for our families. Ms. Huckersman. Thank you through you.
So the Grass Creek Park offers a number of advantages.
Well, it's not in the downtown. People will tend to
travel to bring family member, bring their families to an
inflatable water park like this. There are options that, um,
that we would like to, um, consider and that will
be important to consider as part of this, um, projecting
shuttles, um, access through the municipal fee assistance program. We,
we heard from Council that it was important that the
Inflateable Water Park be affordable. We would like to work
with our partners to assist with buses and access for
kids and families. Um, so I think the lot of
options out there that could help support access for families
and for those who need lower cost options as well.
Grass Creek Park offers some really great amenities. Um, there's
already washroom facilities there, change facilities. Um, there's parking. There's
lots of room for families to come for the day
and have picnics and hang out and, uh, and so
on playground, lots of things to do. Um, in terms
of other locations, uh, the Lake Ontario, um, options, of
course, as you know, the wind and wave action, uh,
at Lake Ontario Park. And this option was also looked
at again when the, um, the Confed, um, I guess
option, we were looking at changing the location. And there
really are not a lot of other options around Kingston
for the inflatable water park requires certain depths, uh, requires
certain, um, wave and wind restrictions are important considerations for
those things. So Lake Ontario Park actually has quite a
high waves and would require an additional breakwater system to
even be considered. And even then, uh, still didn't meet
the criteria. Um, so Grass Creek Park is a, I
think a really good option. And, uh, and I think
it would be really well deceived, especially by a lot
of families. People coming up from the rural areas would
be able to come in that way from, then, and
then to Kingston also perhaps. So I think that there
probably would be some, some spin off and some tourism,
uh, coming to the city with the addition of this
park or the inflatable water park and grass creek park.
Thank you. I'm not challenging the idea that. There won't
be spinoff going to that park. And I'm not, I'm
not convinced that one, the water depth at Grass Creek
is deep enough to hold, uh, these inflatables. I'm not
convinced that when I'll just say when or if these
inflatables were kept in the downtown core, security for those
inflatables would be a lot higher. And the more pedestrians.
It's right on our, our backyard, if you will, city
hall. And now we're potentially putting it out in a
park. That who is responsible for it overnight. Who is
responsible to keep as a security assessment been done on
putting it out there. For the months of July and
August. Do we have lifeguards that are, are we, are
we looking at bringing in a third party to provide
lifeguards to oversee this operation where we were looking at
it as a blended or an amalgamated aspect in the
downtown core and battery park with a third party operator.
And those slave cards being enhanced with this. Now we're
potentially asking two third party operators. To one, do the
battery park operation. Potentially. And now we're asking another operator
or same operator to oversee an operation out at Grass
Creek Park if the city of Kingston is not overseeing
us. Could staff elaborate a little bit on those aspects,
please. See you, Hurdle. Thank you. And through Mr. Mayor,
I'll get started and also add some information to your
previous questions, uh, Councillor Amos. So the couple of things.
As council's aware, we have been working on the option
of rural transit and on demand in particular. So this
area would be captured under the on - demand rule
transit, um, that we've been working on. And we'll be
bringing back to city council. Understanding, of course, that inflatables
at Grass Creek Park would not be something that would
be implemented in the near future. We understand the lanty
process in terms of receiving approvals. So that's the first
thing. The second thing is I have been working quite
closely actually with tourism Kingston downtown BIA and Kingston Accommodation
partner about this potential relocation. Um, you know, they recognise
that. Having the inflatables would bring more people downtown, but
did not raise any significant concerns with having them relocated
outside of the downtown. I think from a tourism perspective,
we understand people will come downtown, but it is not
the only location within the city where we can attract
people. So I did want to flag that. The other
thing that I would add in the Director Recreation is
around the operations. The intent was in terms of the
inflatable. Relocating two grass park or another location would be
to have a private operator, also owner of the Inflatable.
The intent is not to have the city pay essentially
for the inflatable. So it would have to be a
private operator that do come with its own equipment. Sag
is my thank you and through you. So the question
around security, which I can respond to is that in
the downtown core, with the inflatable, originally planned, um, Confederation
Basin. Security was to be part of the operational plan
for obvious reasons. Uh, and the security plan would also
be part of the operational plan security measures will be
part of the operational plan that an operator would be
required to produce. Um, so, so that is part of
what needs to be considered for the, for the project.
I would also just like to note that a bathymetric
survey has now been completed. And previously during the initial
assessments that had not been done with this further technical
study, um, we can confirm that location, the location does
offer depths that are suitable for an inflatable water park.
And with a change in the configuration, um, this is
now confirmed and possible. And, um, and we have, uh,
memo technical memo from, uh, from shoreline engineering firm, uh,
that confirms those things. Did I miss anything. Thank you.
Yes. You, you covered it well. So my last comment
I want to make then, um, in regards to this
matter. And I appreciate, um, CEO hurdles comments about the
BIA and tourism Kingston offering their input that alleviates some
of my concerns in regards to tourism. If we're going
to have a third party operator, um, whether they purchase,
um, and then set up shop at a grass creak
park. I would kindly ask that, uh, city staff work
with this operator to see if we can have our
spark program be eligible so that any disadvantaged families or
families with economic circumstances that are being challenged that they
have the ability to enjoy this water park as much
as anyone else does using the spark funding, uh, that
we have set aside to support families. So I will
leave that for consideration. And I cannot say how much
I am disappointed that this water park is not moving
forward, uh, at this time. This is something our families
need. This is something that young children would enjoy teenagers
would enjoy. It's a full aspect of, uh, something that
gets a lot of people talking in a positive way
about our city. And now we're probably putting an onhold
a minimum of three years according to the report. Uh,
the way the federal government works and the provincial government,
we're probably looking at five years. So it's, it's frustrating.
And at the end of the day, our families lose
out on this, um, I'll leave it at that. Okay.
Thank you. Next is Councillor Senek. Thank you, your worship.
Um, when we vote on this, I just want to
ask if we can, um, we can have those clauses
separated, uh, when we vote, all three classes. All three
separate votes. Yes. Of course. Yes. Great. Yeah. So I'm,
you know, I support that we abandon the naming rights,
but, um, I have problems with the other two. So,
um, with the enhanced swimming platform and making it like
a big outdoor pool and having swimming lessons, I think
that this is a little bit too premature. Let's first
build, you know, the, um, the, um, uh, what are
we calling it right? The big breakwater, right? The new
parkway system. Um, like I'm just horrified to hear about
the, uh, the anchor going down in that area and
pulling up coltar. Like that is terrifying. And, um, you
know, and it could be made even worse once we
have this, uh, promenade belt. So I think this is
like 400, 000, just a little bit too soon. Let's
build the promenade first. That gives us time to see,
you know, the wave action, the water flow. At the
same time last year at this time in 2025 when
we were last talking about this, we hadn't actually proved
the big condo that's going to be built right there
next to the marine museum. And with that condo is
going to be, um, if I believe the planning report
correctly, a community benefit of a deep water dock. And
so we're going to be having boats coming in ships
coming in. Who knows how big they could. They could
be using that dock, but also bringing diesel and other
pollution with them. And again, that could affect the water
quality in there too. And it might not become the
big enhanced swimming area that we hope for right now.
We don't know the effect of those boats coming in.
So, um, I'll be voting no against the second clause
and about the third clause. Yeah. Grass creek park is
great in Kingston because it's sand. And whereas city of
limestone rock and, you know, that's what makes grass creek
so good. It's like, um, sand bars and sand. You
can go way out there. And the sand is just
up to your knees. But at the same time, because
it is so shallow, I remember when my kids were
small, the beach was closed a lot of times because
of E. coli. And, you know, if we're going to
be creating this into, um, an inflatable water park, it's
going to take away our lifeguards, whether it be a
private operator or, you know, like a city of Kingston
swim facility. There's only so many lifeguards to go through.
We have the enclosed Memorial Centre pool. I'm a new
aquatic centre being built at the inficia centre. We need
all the lifeguards. And to have, you know, um, this
one out in Gross Creek Park having to be closed,
you know, then those poor lifeguards on those bad weather
days for bed weather or E. coli. They won't have
a job. And those resources are really neat for our
city owned Kingston facilities. So I can't support, um, grass
creek park being one of the sites. Thank you. Great.
Thank you. Next is Councillor Rich. Thank you. Your worship
and through you. Um, so I just want to begin
by, uh, thanking staff for the recommendations and the language
and the report about, uh, reflecting on the feedback from
the local neighbours. With regards to this project. I just
have a couple of questions for some clarity. Um, did
we recently revise our naming rights policies for the city.
Hurdle. Thank you. And, uh, three Miss Mayors. So we
made some revisions some time ago. I can't remember exactly
when, uh, Council Ridge. Those revisions were made. Um, but
we, I mean, we continuously review our, our policies. And
this would be one of them that we recently looked
at. Thank you. Uh, February of this year. Thank you
very much. And are we in the process of, uh,
creating a, you know, a standard policy or a process
for unsolicited partnership proposals. See you, Hurdle. Thank you. And,
uh, through you. Yes. Um, yes, we are in terms
of, um, actual partnership proposal, but that may not sincerely
cover naming rights, which is what, uh, this particular proposal
was, uh, was about. Thank you very much. And what
if, uh, let's say hypothetical three year worship, let's say
hypothetically that, uh, we just move forward with the construction
and the promenade. What is the expected timeline for it
to be constructed and to be open to the public.
Sag us. Thank you for the question. Um, the anticipated
timeline is approximately two years for construction. Okay. Thank you.
And. There's an understanding that this, this sign, if there
are any significant modifications, uh, that there would be some
sort of consultation with near neighbours. Is that correct? Yes.
Thanks for the question. The prominent project now, as it
stands, um, we are planning to, um, we have a
get involved Kingston page, an engagement page right now, uh,
and we are planning consultation with near neighbours on the
prominent project and swimming components as well. Okay. Thank you.
And finally just so the couple of questions about the
actual design that I've received from constituents. Is there on
the enhanced swimming platform, uh, through your worship. Is that
ramp accessible. Yes. There is accessible, the ramp to the,
to the swimming platform and to the water. And finally
through you, your worship, um, is there that there was
any original 2022 plan, uh, The Cement tiered stairway down
to the water. Um, it's, is that still in the
current design. Yes. And thank you. The enhanced public realm,
I believe is what you're referring to. And that, um,
that consists of, uh, concrete, uh, kind of step system
to the water. That's still in the, in the design
and is designed to improve access to the waterfront and
access to the water cell. Thank you. And just, just
as a last question, a three year worship, do we
have an idea of where the washroom or change room
is to be located as it wasn't, uh, in the
diagram. Yes. Thank you. The washroom and change room, uh,
location is near the entrance towards the entrance to the
promenade itself. I believe we calling you to call it
the Southwest side of the, uh, of the park and
not far from the entrance. So kind of on the,
on the grassy knoll, uh, with a pathway. Hard to
explain right now, uh, without, without a map. Um, but
that is something that we, um, we will be sharing
with the near neighbours and discussing with them, uh, and
there'll be some additional details on the Get Involved Kingston
page as well. Some images. Mr. Campbell. Thank you. And
through you, if I can try to help draw a
picture in one's mind, um, if you envision the enhanced
swim entry point with those stairs, the intent for the
change room and the washrooms would be to be located
in that corner of the park closest to that entrance
point such that, you know, if you have family members
or others needing to avail those facilities, they're very close
to the entry and exit location. Thank you, Interview. And
through your worship, I apologise. I keep saying finally as
if it were the last question, but I promise you
your worship. This is the last question. Um, will there
be, thank you Councillo Tozo. Will there be any additional
work or assessment that will be done on the safety
of the water. In terms of the concerns that we've
heard, uh, from other Councillors and constituents over this discussion
in the previous meeting. Miss Sogrisma. Yes and through you.
Just wanted to clarify that the, uh, the work to
the promenade is essentially on top of the existing break
wall. So there's no new work touching the bed of
the lake. So we don't have those risks of the
sediment on the bottom or disturbing sediment and so on.
I think you should be aware of. There has been
ongoing testing for several years at that site. And testing
is continuing again this season. The results that we've seen
at that location are very similar to the results. At
the other, other beaches in Kingston. And, uh, so, so
I wanted to share that. And, um, and we will
continue that testing program up until, um, the promenade is
complete. And then the public health KFLA takes over that
testing. And those results are all shared publicly as they
are with the other beaches. Okay. Thank you very much.
Ju, you're your worship. So it's clear that the work
and time and discussion and consultation that's gone into this
by staff. And, you know, and, and I myself personally
have relayed a lot of, uh, concerns from constituents to
staff. And I'm very, um, pleased with this, uh, proposal
as it exists. And I think the other thing too
that we really need to consider is, um, as part
of our strategic plan is trying to find creative ways
to create new means of access for aquatics and recreation.
And so, uh, I'm happy to support the recommendation in
this report. Thank you. Thank you. Um, next is Councillor
Osterhoff. Yes, I think Premier Passion. Can you hear me
well enough. Yes, we can hear you fine. All good.
Um, yeah, this is an interesting topic. Obviously we all.
Have a lot to say on this. And I want
to thank my colleagues for great, great questions. And, um,
I, um, I, I did not vote in favor, um,
way back when of the, of the, um, inflavable water
park at the location downtown. And I, um, maybe I
don't know how much fun they are because I'm not
against fun. Um, I really did think that the water
was not suitable and the location. And I have heard
from considerable constituents, um, and I'm glad that that's Councillo
Sanic has asked that he said, we can separate them.
I'm also troubled. So I'm going to rain in the
parade about it being at Grass Creek. So I'm willing
to listen, of course. And I guess the question I
have Mayor Paterson is, um, is it obviously if it's
down the road that is open for discussion, whether it's
actually a suitable location, right? Or if council approves it
to be there. I appreciate the work. I, I'm concerned
about. Impact of unenflatable water park almost wherever it goes.
And so I thought they can take apart would be
best. But I understand the staff have done their work.
But I'm not convinced it would be acceptive at Brant's
Creep. I am quite sure that, um, it's, it's a
big change to the culture there. And I'm worried about
that. So the question is, will there be a time
where we get to have a say on that location
or is tonight the night. Miss Sagittarius. Thank you. Uh,
so tonight, you know, the report before you, um, does
contemplate this location. And so we are looking at approvals
to proceed with the lease for the water lot. So
that's, that's what we're looking for tonight. Um, so it
doesn't commit us necessarily to grass creek park. Until the,
I think once those, those pieces are, are complete. If
we have approval to proceed with those permitting aspects and
the water lease, water lot lease, then we would be
able to come back to council to discuss the location
once again. Okay. Thank you for that. I told I
thought and I want to support the efforts required to
try to make it happen. I want to say it
too in behalf of all the colleagues. I know the
looks like you've done a lot of work here. And,
uh, I do want to honour that and respect that.
Um, I have a different attitude toward, uh, inflatable water
park, but I'm happy to be wrong. And if it's,
if it's really going to be supported by my community
in the rural area and there, then I will listen
to that too. I just, I have a concern about
it. I'll private operator. Um, I probably would support that
actually, but I wonder who would do that. So thank
you Mayor Paterson. I'm glad that we can break up
the motion and speak, uh, through the voting. And I
look forward to hearing more. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor
Shapes. Thank you. You may have been asked already an
answered, um, but just to confirm, just to tag on
what the delegations were concerned about. Have there been reviews
and studies done on the water quality in that area.
And also in regards to the effects of, um, the
boat movement in the area and the safety of any
potential swimmers. Cause I think that one has not been
touched on, but maybe the first one. Thank you. Ms.
Sogrisma. Thanks for the question. Uh, yeah, so water quality
testing has been happening at both sites for several years.
Any swim, any official swim, uh, Beach has testing on
a regular basis from KFLA. The city has under has
been taken on the testing at the Confederation Basin because
it's not an actual swimming beach at this time. So
both locations have been subject to testing and both are
satisfactory and actually similar in terms of water quality number
of potential closure dates, um, that have been analysed over
time. Um, and sorry, the other part of your question.
Both traffic and the safety words, the swimmers. Thank you.
Uh, so for the boat traffic, absolutely there needs to
be buoys and floating floating boys in the locations protecting
the swim areas. And that would need to happen wherever
an inflatable water park is as well as swimm docks.
Thank you. And I want to also touch on the
sort of recommendation in regards to grass creep park. Um,
because I think I'm not sure if I understanding it
correctly or if I'm hearing incorrectly from my fellow calsters.
We're not actually approving an inflatable park at recipe at
this time. We're looking at reviewing or getting the approval
from the governing body who owns the property to see
if we can use those lands. And then the final
decision will probably be a future council. Ms. Huggersman. Yes.
And thank you through the for the question through you.
Uh, yeah. So tonight, the motion before you is to
proceed with the permitting requirements, uh, the water lot that
the grass creek park that would be needed for the
inflatable water park, um, is on crown lands, uh, there
are some, some permitting requirements from the Ministry of Natural
Resources and others. And so we're seeking to proceed with
that. And then we would come back to Council At
a later date, uh, both the, uh, Grass Creek Park
and proceeding with that site and keep in mind another
sponsor for that water park would also be required. Thank
you. Commissioner Kevill. Thank you and through you. I just
wanted to add to Director Elkers Move response. Um, just
a flag for cancel. One of the decisions or the
proposals to pursue the approvals is that it's about a
three year timeline to receive those approvals. What we did
entertain when we had the last offer to install this
water park in the downtown, uh, was an accelerated timeline
to deliver that outcome. So what staff are requesting is
Direction of Council to secure those opportunities so that if
an opportunity to install an inflatable water park war to
come forward, we would be in a more favorable position
to support that opportunity and also to have that realised
within our community. So just wanted to be a little
more clear there on, on what might happen, um, and
that we're really just trying to get ahead of time.
Thank you. And just to confirm, even if we move
forward with this permit, there's no commitment that we have
to go follow through with the permit. If it's approved
and then responsibility. Uh, yes, that's correct. There's no obligation.
If Council there's a motion tonight to pursue the permitting,
uh, there's no obligation to, um, to proceed with grass
creek park with the inflatable Zachary Grass Creek Park at
this time. And there's no financial fee for the restoration
or permit. Thank you. Uh, there, there will be some,
um, there will be some fees and those will be
addressed in the 2027 budget application fees and such. Do
we know roughly how much that might be? Commissioner Campbell.
Uh, thank you and through you. The fees are fairly
minimal, you know, maybe 10, 20, 000 dollars to secure
additional opportunities for use at grass creek park. So again,
as Director El Grima was sharing, um, this is the
kind of, uh, exploratory permitting that we would include within
our normal capital envelopes to ensure that we can develop
our parks appropriately and have those controls where we want
them. So, uh, aligning with that opportunity, we would, we
would seek this permit opportunity within that budget. Okay. Thank
you very much. Okay. Thank you. Next is Councillor Trinity.
Thank you. And through Mr. Mayor. So I guess it's
kind of like piggybacking on Councillo Sandic and then something
that, uh, was mentioned about after the completion of the
promenade that public health would have final testing and approval.
So what would it look like if say public health
said, okay, this is not safe for swimming. Then what
happens to this swimming platform or our plans for that.
Yes. Thank you through you. I think that if public
health deemed any waterfront or beach location, uh, to be
unsafe for swimming, there would be a closure and then
follow up testing until it was able to reopen. Okay.
Um, I guess I think I was looking more for,
uh, say if there was a more permanent unsafess to
the water, like where like, um, like say like where
it's because it was a brown field and things like
that, if they deem something that's more long - term
and not like a short - term thing, does that,
what does that do to the project. Commissioner Campbell. Uh,
thank you. And through you. Though unlikely, uh, if there
were to be found to be some, um, concerning and
enduring issue, um, with water quality, uh, we would obviously
work with public health to understand the source and to
then explore remediation opportunities if required to address them. Uh,
we would return to Council, of course, with updates. That
would be true of, um, swim opportunity here in Kingston.
We have a very active waterfront with a historic use
largely industrial. And so as council is aware that when
you engage in those waterfronts, you can often turn things
up in the processes of a construction and development. Um,
we haven't seen that limit swim opportunities at other locations
where there is similar concern about industrial infill development of
the waterfront, et cetera. But, um, to be clear, you
know, if public health directed that this was an enduring
issue or water quality was not appropriate, we would have
to take action or remediation steps. Uh, I guess Cataclysmic,
but unlikely outcome would be that the beach would be
permanently closed and no water access would be allowed in
that location. Okay. Thank you. And then in say hypothetically
in that case, then we wouldn't be spending the 400,
000 dollars extra to build a water structure, or a
watered platform. Commissioner Campbell. Thank you. And through you. No,
the 400, 000 dollars is for the expanded water platform
if we were to arrive in a circumstance where the
water was deemed unsafe and an enduring way. Um, the
additional investment that Council has already approved to have water
entry points, um, and a small water platform there would
also be, I guess, compromise from an investment perspective. So
the 400, 000 is just the enhanced aspect that Council
is considering this evening prior approvals from Council have already
directed water access at this location. Um, and so those
commitments of Council would also be defeated if the water
quality was found to be sustainingly unsuitable. Okay. Thank you.
Um, so then I don't have a problem supporting this.
I think that especially with enclosing the Cologan pool at
the Memorial Centre, um, we've kind of lost some outdoor
swimming space and having an expanded swimming dock would really
add back to that, what we have lost. So, and
I think that that if we can do this, then
that would be a great addition for the city, for
like programming, like was said before. So I would support
this. Thank you Councillor Glenn. Thank you and through you.
Uh, thank you to my colleagues for the, um, detailed
questions. I do want to ask a few questions to
provide enhanced clarity. So although we've already touched on the
naming, can staff please confirm that should we engage with
someone who is willing to provide funds for some naming
that the name of Battery Park will remain as it
is. CORD. Thank you and through Mr. Mayor. So I
want to thank you for the question Councillon. I want
to clarify that the intent was never to change the
name of battery park. The park was always going to
retain battery park as a name. It was really about
the water park and the renaming for that aspect, which
was the promenade. And obviously the other amenities being the
enhanced women platform and the inflatable. In this case, if
we had other contribution, again, it would be related to
the promenade and other amenities, but Battery Park would remain
and keep its current name. Okay. Thank you. I think
that provides some comfort that Battery will remain named as
it is. Um, with regards to the safety, we've touched
on public health, but can staff please confirm that should
test come back indicating it's unsafe to swim that the
medical officer of health has the power to shut down
swimming. And maintain that shutdown. Miss August. Uh,
yes. So, um, under public health regulations, if water testing,
uh, quality tests come back, um, at a level, um,
that is not acceptable than those beaches must be shut
down. And the same would go for the swimming dock
facility. Okay. Thank you very much. Um, so a couple
of other questions. So I know that there was concern
expressed about when the project might start. So could staff
just sort of give us a high level overview of
the process that will occur should everything pass and we
start moving forward with this. Thank you for the question.
Um, yes, sure. So the, um, one of the first
things that will happen is that they get involved kinks
in page. We updated to share the information with the
public. Um, we know that the neighbours are very interested
in what's happening at the promenade site in Confederation Basin.
So that will be one of the first things that
we work on as well as scheduling a meeting with
the near neighbours, uh, the other thing that will happen
is, uh, the design, uh, the design is just revising
some aspects of the design. We'll work towards that. And
then in 2027, uh, we will start to work the
procurement for the project will happen, likely in early 2027.
And that will go out, uh, that will go out
for public procurement. Following that, uh, construction contracts would be
awarded in the project would commence likely in the, in
the winter, uh, for some, um, moving us some materials
and some work that can be done the winter. And,
uh, with the majority of the work happening during the
summertime. The other thing that would happen in parallel, um,
should this be approved here tonight is that the permitting
work would also happen for the grass creek park location
at the same time. But essentially then we're into construction
project, um, and then of course the operational elements need
to be considered such as the operator operating plan, safety
plans, and so on. Okay. Thank you very much. So
my next question has to do with, uh, the entry
to the water. So, um, in part two where we're
discussing the enhanced swimming platform and washroom. Does this also
include the enhanced entry to the water? So if, for
example, that, uh, clause was voted down, would we lose
the enhanced entry to the water as well. Thank you.
Uh, no, we would not lose the enhanced centre each
to the water or the, um, the public realm, uh,
tonight the request is to proceed with the additional funds,
um, is for the, um, which would go through the
2027 budget process, is for the enhanced swimming docs only.
Okay. Uh, and with relation to the situation regarding swim,
swimming in the city, um, I know that we've done
a lot of work to try and improve opportunity for
swimming and swim lessons. Um, and we were hopeful to
move ahead with project at InVista. Um, my understanding though
is where we're at that project is quite an improve
years out, uh, potentially given the cost to it. So
where are we in terms of accessibility to swim lessons
and would the addition of this platform in lanes, uh,
increase our ability to offer some swim lessons potentially. Yes.
And through you, the enhanced swimming docs, um, as CAO
hurdle pointed out is essentially like a swimming pool in
the lake. Uh, there would be at least one lane,
uh, 25 metres for swimming similar to swimming pool. And
there are ample opportunities to conduct swim lessons there. Lane
swim kind of like family swim, you know, lots of
opportunities for play as well as learn to swim there.
Of course, the Cologan Water Park is underway as well
to enclose that facility, which is going to bring additional
opportunities for swim lessons. Um, the InVista project is, um,
is underway in terms of design work and planning for
that site as well. Um, but this site will allow
people to swim outdoors, uh, with the additional swim lesson
opportunities, um, fitness opportunities and overall opportunities for wellbeing, really.
Okay. Great. That's a positive thing to hear. Um, so
my last question is with regards to the consultation. And
I know that my colleagues have touched on this. But
given the wording of the question, I want greater clarity
on this. So are we going to consult within your
neighbours given that the changes that are contemplated with this
enhanced platform and the move of the washroom change room
facility, uh, to the other sort of end of the,
um, the battery park area are going to be contemplated
so that they can have some input. Cause I think
that that was the general concern that we have not
seen diagram and a layout. That was what was expressed
from a number of people. So I just want to
confirm that because that was brought to my attention, uh,
on a number of vocations. Thank you. And through you.
Uh, so the, um, yes, absolutely. Um, we are planning
on consulting with the near neighbours. We've heard from many
of them, um, you know, when the, uh, when the,
uh, from the last report to now, absolutely, um, and
so we're happy to consult with them, um, and hear
their thoughts on the project. So we would not be
looking to, at input that would change the design. But
we would like to hear from them. We would like
to share the plans with them, uh, and communicate with
those neighbours. Okay. So just for some clarity, what kind
of input would they be, uh, giving to you? Because
I know if you're not looking for any changes to
this, is there opportunity to talk about aesthetics, for example,
because that was one of the concerns. So if it's
not about placement, is there opportunity to discuss how it
looks given that they live there. Yes. There will be
opportunity to weigh in on the look and feel of
the structures. Um, some of the finishes. We'd like to
hear from them on some of the operational concerns that
they may have and discuss that with them. Um, but
there are some opportunities to hear from them. Um, but
the promenade itself as well as the washroom location have
been designed for those specific locations. And so we are,
we're not contemplating changes to those locations, but we are
certainly open to hearing on the aesthetics and how to
ensure that the, uh, that the buildings fit into the,
uh, the neighbouring areas. Okay. Thank you very much. I
appreciate the answers. And, uh, I think I'm satisfied that
we can move ahead with what's here, uh, and should
water park be, um, a possibility at Grass Creek Park.
We have opportunity to discuss it in the future. Thank
you. Councillor Bo. Thank you. We're just been through you.
I have a few questions to staff in this. I
guess the first one is it kind of feels like
we're dividing our effort now that they're not going to
be co - located. Um, I know the delegation mentioned
let's focus on the promenade first, increase accessibility. The water
as soon as possible. So how much of a split
does this kind of create trying to sort of do
the one and also do the inflatable water park somewhere
else in all of that? Does this like clearly staff
is a limited resource. So is it, is it half?
Are they coequal? Is it 70 towards the promenade? Uh,
Ms. Huckersman. Yes. Thank you for the question. Uh, so
the majority of the effort is definitely around the prominade
project. Some effort for the swim docs, of course, the
Inflatable Park. Once confirmation of the design, um, is in
place. It's a relatively straightforward project that doesn't take an
abundance of staff time. Of course, there's some work to
do there in terms of planning and working with an
operator and those types of things. Um, but the majority
of the effort would be focused on the, on the
promenade project. Okay. Thank you for that information. Um, I
guess right away, like the first two clauses, I would
support. I do have reservations about the third. So I
know we're not there yet. And tonight's not a final
decision, but once we start down these tracks, it really
does kind of coalesce sometimes into a decision only looking
at one area. So that park out there is, is
not considered a destination park currently, correct? Thank you for
the question. So, um. Yes and no. The currently staff
are undertaking and exercise to reclassify parks within the city.
And that park is actually, would be considered a city
park, uh, given the amenities and the size, um, and
uses and so on. So, so that park, uh, we
would consider to be a destination park. Okay. So historically
it wasn't, but it's, it's becoming one. Okay. Fair enough
with the reclassification. So whereas Lake Ontario Park is considered
a full destination park has been one for quite some
time. Yeah. No, I think that Grass Creek Park was,
uh, is also considered a destination park. It does contain,
um, of course, the waterfront for everyone to be part
of. And, you know, the playground, the amenities that are
there, uh, do, you know, give it that status. And
I think CORL could probably expand on that. Okay. CORD,
you want to jump in? Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor.
And through you. Although if you look at technical classification,
it may not have been traditionally classified as such Councillor
Bohm. I would argue that it is a citywide destination.
We have people that are coming from different parts of
the city. It is by far our largest sandy beach
that we have available within, uh, The City of Kingston
Boundary. So I would say it has been a destination.
It is very popular. And we do have other sandy
beaches, but they're not, uh, quite as large as the
one that we have at Grass Creek Park. It is
quite a unique asset. And therefore, that's why we have
people coming from all over the city. It is quite
a destination. Okay. Thank you. So that does sort of
hit on the point that it wasn't previously and was
kind of sort of a little hidden area. And now
it is basically becoming a very well used park. So
much so that when you go there for a lot
of the events, like for instance, the sheepdog trials, so
the next phase of this is if there were to
be a water inflatable there, more parking would have to
be created, which would take away a lot of the
active green spaces. Is that accurate. Or we'd have people
parking on the roads, which they do right now. Yes,
thank you. Thank you for the question. You know, you
bring up a really good point about the parking. Um,
so on a really busy day, it can be quite
busy out there. Um, so I think that what we're
challenged with is finding those parking solutions. And that can
include shuttles that it can include offsite lots with shuttles
to the park. Uh, that may include buses from existing
partner organisations that can help bring families and kids to
the site. So, um, and I know CA Hertle mentioned
future expansion for some rural transit. So, um, I think
we are challenged with finding some of those solutions. And
we look forward to doing that. Okay. Thank you. Yeah.
I guess my point there was if, if we pursue
this water inflatables, it's not just the water inflatable area.
That needs the upgrades. It's the entire area there. So
that there's actually adequate parking. Cause if you're going to
have a destination park, you have to have places for
people to actually, you know, put their vehicles and get
there properly. So, and there would be no risk and
or threat to the world renowned sheepdog trials that currently
take place there. Is that correct? Yes, thank you. Uh,
so, so the, uh, we would, we would not be
looking to displace them due to the, due to the
Inflatable water park. Uh, we would hope to work with
them and come up with solutions that both can both
can happen. Excellent. All right. Thank you very much. Thank
you Councillor McLaren. Thank you. I heard earlier in response
to a colleague's question that, uh, the cost of pursuing
the crown lease would be a minimum 20, 000 dollars.
Is that lease paid once every year, every month? How
often do we pay that 20, 000. Thank you for
the question. So, um, there are a number of costs
that would be considered, I guess, upfront costs or cost
for application for the application process, as well as some
additional documentation that would be required from some consultants. Uh,
so we don't quite know the full extent of the
lease. And what that costs would be, um, but we
are hoping to be able to go through that permitting
process and then come back to council with the additional
information before the, uh, before the location is confirmed and
the, and the water park would proceed. And sir, I
just heard you say you would have to consult with
consultants pleural. How many consultants and how much would they
be. Thank you. Uh, so likely a shoreline engineer, um,
is what would be required. Maybe one or maybe two.
We don't quite know at this point. But that's what
we're looking for tonight is Direction to be able to
pursue those things. Okay. Um, and we don't know how
much that's going to cause. Uh, do we know how
much staff time this is going to cost? I understood
that this was process was done in a, uh, accelerated
format. For downtown. Um, how much staff personne hours did
we devote to that. Mr. Campbell. Thank you. And through
you. I'm sorry Councillor at this time I can't give
you a finite number of staff hours. We can certainly
take that away and calculate that for you. Um, the
exploration of the downtown water park option is obviously very
intertwined with other considerations for the downtown activation. Um, it
would be very challenging to separate the greater project from
the specific elements that were considered for the inflatable water
park. Um, we can certainly work to quantify the number
of hours. It would take to receive permitting at the
Grass Creek Park location. Um, as Director Elgisma has shared
the intent here is to seek direction of council. And
as we mentioned earlier, the costing would be included in
the development of the budget. So Council would have opportunity
again to see and ask questions. Um, as we were
to begin to understand the costing associated, the estimate I
provided is based on, uh, those shoreline studies and the
understanding that the permit application does require some technical review.
Um, obviously then we would come back to council as
Director Elgisma has shared and speak more about any indooring
costs for that lease or permitting agreement. But those costs
are usually far less than the initial permitting or at
least request process. But again, Councillor, I don't have and
I don't believe Directors Elgismo would have account on the
number of hours at this time. We can certainly work
to provide that though. Okay. And, um, did I also
hear right that we will, that this is in a
sense being imposed on the residents in that area. They're
not going to have a choice as to whether this
happens or not. We're going to consult on the form
of the texture of the, uh, stuff. Um, is that,
did I hear you correct, uh, this is another example
of making a decision before we consult and then consulting
afterwards, but not on that decision. It's only on the
way it comes out. Mr. Cavill. Thank you. And through
you. Thank you Councillor for the question. Um, I think
this has been a point of confusion. Council has considered
the proposal to develop this section of the waterfront for
water access and amenity space. Um, through any number of
council reports, um, and so the consultation has been extensive
and has been in many years long process to get
us to where we are today. Uh, the proposal tonight
is to revert to an approval that was previously issued
by Council in response to request for additional amenities on
this property. Um, and so what council has before you
tonight is consistent with an extensive consultation process, uh, what
Directors El Grisma and myself have commented on earlier this
evening is that given that that prior consultation has arrived
at this set of amenities, uh, the opportunity to reconsult
and reconsider those amenities is not where we would be
at moving forward with council's direction. However, engagement on built
form, the appropriateness and the and the suitability of the
style and appearance, uh, to blend into the neighbourhood is
really what we're indicating would be possible. Um, as opposed
to moving elements that are constrained by site design or
prior approvals of council. Thank you. Okay. Is there anybody
else that would like to speak. I think it's just
two of us. Okay. I think the set on this.
So at this point we will move to the votes.
We're going to do three separate votes. So first we
will do the vote on clause one. Or sorry, on
paragraph one of cause one.
And that carries. Okay. Next we will do the vote
for paragraph two.
And that carries by a vote of nine to three.
Councillor Tosonica McLaren opposed. And now we'll do the vote
for paragraph three.
And that also carries by a vote of nine to
three Councillor Osanic McLaren and Glenn opposed. Okay. Uh, with
that, we'll move on to clause two Lemoine Point farm
update. Okay. We will call the vote, please.
And that carries. Okay. Now clause three drinking water quality
management program 2025 management review report and reindorsement of operational
plan. Councillor Shapes. Thank you. Um, thank you for the
report. As always each year. I did read, which was
a little concerning to me within the report drinking water
systems are being adequately managed, operated and maintained. The word
adequately for me is questionable. Cause if I see that
a report card, it means could use improvement. So I
was wondering if you could address that, please. Miss Roberts.
Sure. Through you, um. Mayor Paterson, thank you very much
for the question. Um, Councillor Shaves, I, I appreciate the
comment. And the concern over the use of adequate. Um,
I. I want to explain that we use that because
that's a term used in needing the standard. So the
standard asks that the top management review confirm that the
systems are being adequately managed, operated and maintained and in
response to that, it's the use of the term that
we want to confirm that that is being done. So
we're matching the level of the wording of the standard
that is being provided by the province. Okay. Thank you
for clarifying that. Um, just case email is one ring.
And my real question is, are we doing everything possible
to ensure there is safe drinking water for Kinstonians. Ms.
Roberts. Three year worship. Yes. And I say thank you.
Okay. Thank you. If there was no other discussion, we
will call the vote on clause three.
And that carries. Okay. Uh, moving on to report number
52 from the Heritage Properties Committee. Moved by Councillor Klenn,
seconded by Councillor Osterhoff that report 52 from the Heritage
Properties Committee be received and adopted. Okay. Uh, we have
two application supported for approval by the Heritage Properties Committee
Councillor Glenn. You would like to separate them. Um, okay.
So we'll just deal with one by one. Uh, so
first we have the application for Ontario Heritage Act approval
226, 228 King Street East. Okay. So did you want
to speak to that? Wanted to Councillo Glenn. Okay. So
we'll call the vote first on that number one.
And that carries. Uh, next we have the application for
Ontario Heritage Act approval. Uh, 166 West Street Council Glenn.
Thank you and through you. I have an amendment to
put up.
Okay. So we have, uh, an amendment moved by Councillor
Glenn. The clause tour report 52 from the Heritage Properties
Committee be amended in exhibit A by deleting condition one
in its entirety and inserting thereto. One, the applicant shall
consider amending their plans to reflect the use of two
over two slash windows in the southern and northern elevations
to the front section of the building and place the
proposed casement windows. Otherwise, the applicant shows the swing encasement
window is proposed in the submitted plans, which were selected
for the design compatibility, security features and ease of use.
Okay. So this is, um, an amendment. Is there a
seconder for the amendment? Second by Councillor. So duly moved
in secretary Councillor Glenn. You have the floor to speak
to the amendment. Thank you very much. I'm actually going
to ask staff to provide some clarity as to why
the amendment has to come to Council. So just to
give context for why we're giving consideration for this and
why it could not be done at the committee level,
please. Mr. Gibbs. Thank you for the question. And through
you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, the process for Heritage Permit applications
are outlined in the Ontario Heritage Act. And the city's
procedural by - offer heritage. In short, this is a
property that's in a heritage conservation district. Those applications always
come to Council for approval. So council is where, uh,
amendments can be made. Other types of applications, part four
applications. So properties outside of heritage conservation districts can be
approved through delegated authority. So at the committee levels where
amendments can be brought forward. Okay. So thank you very
much for that clarity. Um, so this particular piece of
property has, um, sought and been suffering from what I
would call demolition by neglect. So the applicant has brought
forward a very comprehensive plan to restore this property, which
would, um, really be a credit to the entire area.
However, the, uh, heavy heritage requirements typically. So the amendment
is simply to allow a different sort of window. And
as is outlined here, it would, uh, improve the security
features and the ease of use, which I hope you
will see as being reasonable given that Wes Street is
a very open street and it sits quite close to,
uh, the roadway. So it's a small change, but I
think is significant, uh, in terms of the livability of,
uh, the home moving forward once it's completed. Um, and
it's very much still, um, a heritage window that's in
keeping with the look and feel of the building. So
I think this is a reasonable thing to do. And
it would be, um, excellent to, to allow the applicant
to move forward and restore this building and have it
be a credit to, uh, the neighbourhood in the city.
Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Is there any further discussion
on the amendment. Councillor Bomb. Yeah, I get a fully
support this. It actually reminds me of some of the
issues that we've had previously, uh, with the Pine Grove
Cemetery Church, um, where the preferred solution was actually composite
and non - wood. And it would actually last longer.
But there were some concerns like this was sometimes the
actual policies don't keep pace with the building materials. And
so this is a good example of where council can
use its power to sort of veto some outdated policies
and kind of go with common sense here. So great,
great, great amendment. Thank you. Okay. We will call the
vote on the amendment.
And that carries. So now we're back to, um, uh,
number two. Uh, as amended. There's no further discussion. Then
we will call the vote.
And that cures. Okay. Under port number 53 from Planning
Committee. Move by Councillor Chanani Seknad by Deputy Mayor Steven.
The report 53 from the Planning Committee be received and
adopted. So the one Claude zoning by La Amendment 3119
and 3123 Princess Street. Councillor Sanek. Thank you your worship.
The nearby neighbours still have concerns. I appreciate that staff
where you're able to increase the amount of open space
on the property to 19 percent of the property is
going to be paved over. And why that's a problem
is that the neighbour to the immediate west and the
neighbour to the media itself are at a lower elevation
than this property. And there is adrenage stitch to the
west that goes through the backyards and then goes up
to Princess Street. But that drainage ditch, um, was meant
for a big grassed area when the two lots to
the other side of them were homes and not, you
know, 80 percent pavement. So there's concerns there for drainage
as well with these two lots, right? They're housing lots
residential. And we're removing them for commercial, like a commercial
mall purpose. And for, um, for this application is actually
asking, it's not just going to be a little neighbourhood
mall is actually asking for twice the size as what's
allowed in the zoning mall. So it's really going to
be a big commercial mall. And to the north is
Woodhaven subdivision. Back 20 years ago, it was called Cataraqui
West subdivision. And they were supposed to be in the
Cap West master plan 20 years ago. It was supposed
to be a commercial mall area in Cat West. And
as Cat West, Woodhaven has been developed section by section,
the developers have always pushed that commercial area further into
the future saying that there's not the need, that the
need right now is hosing, housing, housing, that they wouldn't
be able to find any commercial tenants. And even right
now would Haven does not have a commercial mall that's
been built out. So this converting a residential, two residential
lots into a commercial Lake Mall. It just doesn't make
a lot of sense when we're in a hosing crisis.
And also that in the commercial, you know, studies that
we do, it shows we do have enough commercial right
now, maybe not to 2051, but for right now as
well, the Southeast coroner, just down from there at Collins
Bay Road and Princess Street has all been grubbed out,
all cleared out, um, that's sewn commercial. So the residents
have concern about what's this need for commercial, especially because
18 commercial lots are being proposed here. So that's their
concerns. And that is why I'm not voting for this.
Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I think we will call
the vote then on clause. One. Oh, I'm sorry cancerostroph.
Did you want to speak. No.
Your worship, I think Councillor Office is giving thumbs up
that he's okay with it. Yes. Yeah. We can call
the vote.
That carries if I vote of 11 to one Councillor
Sanek opposed. Okay. We have nothing from committee of the
whole. Informational reports, uh, we have a few to move
through, uh, first and foremost, we have a briefing, uh,
about the special constable programs. So at this point I
will turn it over to Commissioner Agnu, Commissioner of Growth
Envelopment Services, uh, as well as, um, Director Kyle Campo
of licensing enforcement, uh, to speak to the special constable
program. Thank you, your worship. Um, so Mr. Campo and
I are here tonight to talk to you about special
constable program. We were last here about a year ago
and we've been working on the implementation strategy ever since.
Uh, we are also joined this evening by Mr. Mothersol,
who many of you know he is our manager of
licensing enforcement. So Mr. Campo is going to just go
over the high level details again, just reminding members of
the public and council in terms of what the parameters
of the program are. We're very excited. We've had, um,
a number of months of training and we'll have a
compliment of eight special constables that will be starting work
as of July 1st. So I'm going to turn over
to Mr. Campo. He is also wearing this evening for
your benefit. The special constable uniform. We're trying to do
as much education as possible to help members of the
public understand the new program, what the officers look like
and primarily what the purpose of the program is, which
is really about positive relationship building. So Mr. Campo. Thank
you Commissioner Ayrton through you. Uh, Mr. Mayor, this evening
we are pleased to present the municipal special constable report
to Council. This report represents the final stages of implementing
a program that has been under development for some time.
It is intended to enhance community safety. Improved support to
frontline enforcement operations and provide an additional level of service
within municipal facilities, parks, and public spaces. It is important
to note that municipal specials are not police officers, nor
are they intended to the replace the role of kinks
and police. Rather, they are to provide a specialized level
of enforcement that bridges the gap between traditional municipal bylaw
enforcement and policing. The initial implementation of the program will
focus primarily on authorities under the trespass to property act
supporting and supporting municipal enforcement officers in the field. This
approach will allow the city to establish a program in
a measured, in responsible manner while focusing on municipal properties
and facilities where staff regularly respond to trespass in public
safety concerns. A key objective of this program is to
improve officer safety and enhance our ability to respond to
situations that increasingly involve complex social issues, encampment - related
concerns, unauthorized access to municipal properties, and other matters occurring
in public spaces. Special constables will work hand - in
- hand with municipal law enforcement officers. They have completed
the required training. We're just at the final stages with
the rest of our supervisors right now. Um, and we
will continue to receive ongoing training in regards to de
- escalation, mental health awareness, community engagement, and safe exercise
of their authorities. The program is not intended to be
a 24 - hour emergency response service. During operating hours,
special constables will respond it to matters within their delegate
authorities. Outside of those hours, the Kingston Police Service will
continue to respond as they do today. Success will not
be measured solely through enforcement statistics. Staff will monitor the
program through a number of different performance measures, including proactive
patrols, calls for service. Support provided to municipal law enforcement
officers, response times, community engagement activities, and overall impacts and
service delivery. This program is really establishing the focus on
building positive relationships like Commissioner ANU spoke to. The goal
is to provide a visible, professional, and accountable public safety
presence while supporting compliance, enhancing staff, and public safety. And
helping ensure municipal facilities and public spaces remain safe and
accessible for everyone. We're confident that the implementation of this
program will improve service delivery. Increased staff and public safety.
And provide the city with an additional tool to address
issues occurring on municipal property. I thank you for your
time tonight, and I am open to questions from members
of Council. Okay, thank you very much. Are there any
questions from Council? Councillor. Thank you, Mayor Paterson, through you.
Uh, thank you and great report. Uh, guest a question
I have is you have a really interesting defying success
criteria in year one. Is Council going to be informed
periodically about the metrics that you're using to define success
in some sort of parameters and how this has done
year upon year. Thank you. And through you. Yes, we're
going to continually update Council. Again, this is the implementation
of the start of the program. So we want to
do this very measured and defined. Um, but we would
be providing statistics back to Council. We'd be providing updates
just on the program how our success were, we're defining
success. And again, around those statistics, but again, we're really
looking at the relationship building with members of the community,
um, and that's hopefully going to be shown back to
you through council, through just, you know, discussions with residents
and things like that is a goal as well. But
yes, in general, we were reporting back. Thank you. And
second question, um, there are going to be tabs on
special constables as well and their mental health and how
they're doing on the job as well, because we don't
want burnout. And, um, certainly if you're going to be
in much more challenging situations, which bylaw is already in,
that's going to be a parameter of this. So there
will be wellness checks, correct? Through yes to there will
be. Councillor Senek. Thank you, your worship. Um, a member
of the public, uh, asked us a lot of questions
today. And so I want to ask some of the
questions that were forwarded to us. So one of them
was the public reporting. So thanks for asking that question.
Councillor Tozo. Another question, um, that we had sent to
us today was, um, how proactive is it going to
be like, are you still going to be as a
special constable reporting to complaints or when you're walking around,
are you going to be like proactively looking for things
where someone might not necessarily be causing problems. No one
might not be complaining. Like what will be happening there?
Thank you Councillor Stannekin through you. Um, so for the
first question in terms of public reporting, um, the questions
around how the public can get a hold of us
for reports is that clarifying it Councillor Sanic. Um, yes,
for the public reporting question that was sent to us,
um, it was more like, could they see, um, could
the public see the situations that, um, the special constables
had to respond to. Thank you for the question again
through you. Uh, so yes, we're going to be providing,
um, some data in terms of again, uh, the number
of calls that we're going to proactive enforcement, potentially the
number of calls that are sort of going away from
Kingston police that we're able to respond to on behalf
of, um, our byla officers that are in these situations.
Um, so there is going to be some data that
we're going to be able to share publicly. Um, and
again, we're going to establish and we are working through
that for July 1st is that we're going to have
a city website that's dedicated to the special constable program
providing forward facing information on data statistics reporting and what
this program's all about. So that's what we're working towards.
Uh, the second question in terms of proactive enforcement, um,
again, this is a very design program to support our
bylaw officers in the field. Um, we would be on
a, you know, hand in hand partnership with our bylaffice
there. So our bypassers are still frontlined officers. We would
be that supporting mechanism. So we're not necessarily going out
and looking for proactive situations or trying to get involved
in other situations. But we do want to be a
visible presence. So you are going to see us, um,
our special constables in uniform coinciding with our bylafficers. So
we're looking at, you know, events that are in the
downtown, maybe movies in the square or promenade or buskers,
our major events, tourism sort of activities where you would
see our bylafficers, um, visibly in the community with our
special constables visibly in the community with our bylafficers. So
there will be that aspect of visibility, but again, it
would be reactive in based on, um, working with our
bypassers. Thank you. And one other question is, um, okay.
So a bylaw officer, can't use force. But a police
officer can. And I might, maybe I need, um, I
should already know this answer to the question, but I
don't. Can you use more force than a bylaw officer.
Or what type of force? Thank you, you. So, uh,
we have delegated authority, um, through the Kingston Police Services
Board. And those are for very defined provincial statutes that
speak to what we can and cannot do. So one
of them, it would be, for instance, the trespasser property
act. And for by Laffice, right now where they're into
situations, they don't have arrest authorities and they don't have
advanced PPE that they could defend themselves with if they're
into a scenario of high escalating situations. For us, for
special constables, we now do under that provision have been
arrest authority where we could, um, potentially arrest somebody in
the worst case scenario. Um, if that helps. Thank you.
Uh, Councillor McClen. Thank you. You're a uniform is impressively
scary. It's quite intimidating. Um, may I ask, what do
you have in your utility belt. Thank you for the
question Council McLaren. Um, so for what we have in
our tool belt is we've got handcuffs. We've got OC
spray. So pepper spray. And we carry a baton. So
those are what we've been granted through the police services
board. Um, that's in relation to what we've seen with
other municipalities as well that their special constables, um, the
TTC or for Ottawa transportation. They're using the similar PPE
along with Kingston Police. In terms of the uniform itself,
there's been a lot of conversation around our uniforms. Uh,
there are provincial requirements where we can't look identical to
a police officer, but we have to stand out in
terms of an enforcement service. Um, so there's sort of
like that mixed began between a police officer as ECSI
would be in a black uniform, our bylafficer in blue,
some mental health services are in red. So, um, from
right now with consultation with Kingston Police, we've decided on
a grey uniform. Okay. Um, has any thought been given
to the likeness of your grey colour with regards to
your stated goal of de - escalation? Because I understand
the dark colours from colour psychology tend to be more
aggressive and tend to be more escalatory rather than de
- escalatory. You thought of lightning it up, or is
this like set in stone now. Thank you for the
questioning again through you. Um, so we've sort of had
a mix of our uniforms. We also have white uniforms
officer shirts, I would say. But I would say first
and foremost is our jackets in any kind of utter
material are in yellow, uh, for high visibility. That's we're
trying to distinguish ourselves with. But again, we're really focusing
on the public engagement, getting interactions with different stakeholders to
make sure they're aware of what the program is, um,
we're working with our Director of IIDA. Currently to be
able to get out in front of the public to,
you know, grab some clarity on what this program is.
But again, when a special constable goes into a situation,
our role is not just directly enforcement. It's about communication,
presenting ourselves in a professional way, but we're really continuing
to work with our outreach partners and getting people into
the proper, um, services that they need. So that's going
to be part of the conversations that we're having daily,
um, with individuals to help identify, again, it might look
intimidating. It's also an enforcement service, but we are really
focused on delivering that message that we're here to support
by the officers, but get people, um, to the services
that they need. Thank you. Thank you, Council. Thank you,
Mayor Paterson, through you. Uh, Director Campo, thank you for
this presentation. It's very helpful. Thank you. Could you talk
a little bit about the amount of training, um, or
the types of courses that, uh, the eight special constables
have now been engaged in? Yep. Thanking through you. Um,
so there are provincial examinations that, uh, special constables have
to go through. So there's actually a requirement from the
province for each of our special constables to go through
a specific course. So it's a bit of four to
five week course. Um, that some of our, our staff
are on right now. Um, with the provincial examination at
the end. So that focuses on, again, the, uh, using
all the PPE and the defence tactics and things like
that. But it also really focuses on mental health trauma
informed training, you know, de - escalation tactics, um, communication.
Those are part of the provincial legislations that we have
to go through for our examinations further to that in
the city. That's what we're really focusing on. We're really
focusing on that trauma, mental health, um, training that we
can provide to our officers. Um, again, in crisis situations.
And that's what, again, our focus outside of the provincial
mandate is those areas right now. That's perfect. That's exactly
what we were hoping for. I think as a council
is de - escalation and the mental health aspects and
the communication aspects. It's well done. Um, I want to
touch a little bit on what Councillor Tozo talked about.
Obviously when a special counsel becomes engaged in an escalated
situation, um, the mental health aspect is very important for
that special constable in a debriefing afterwards. Do we have
it set in our procedures for those special constel to
have a debrief and who is the debrief with? Is
it with another supervisor? Or is there a procedure in
place to protect all eight of you. That way? Yeah.
There are SOPs in place. So standard operating procedures that
we have in place where, uh, special constable is dealing
with that kind of situation that they'd be able to
go through a process to get support. If that's what
you're asking, um, so we are very, um, aware, for
lack of a better term of the situations and the
mental fatigue that our officers could go through. So that
is in partnership with what we're doing with our own
health and safety advisors with the city on if the
burnout, what those considerations look like. And we're putting procedures
in place, but we're working with our staff to develop
these as well. Perfect. And the, one of my final
questions, um, in reading the report, it appeared that there
will always be a special constable on shift during regular
operating hours. Is that correct? Or is there, will there
be gaps in service in that type of form. Thank
you for the question for you. So again, the idea,
um, generally as we implement is that there would be
a special constable on seven days a week. Um, with
the realities is that we have six supervisors, myself in
manager mother cell who will be the eighth. So ideally
we're going to be staffing as much as possible. Um,
with the goal to be seven days a week, um,
but this isn't again a 24 seven operation. So we
are still going to be relying on Kingston Police to
help support this program. I really appreciate the update. I
appreciate the seriousness of what the department is endeavoring to
do in moving forward in this engagement. Obviously there was
a lot of fearfulness from the public and certain aspects
of this and misunderstanding and confusion. Uh, I think you've
provided that guidance and judging by what you have indicated
with a report today. It's, it's, I think it's heading
in the right step. So well done to you and
your team. Thank you. Okay. There's no other questions. Mr.
Compo, thank you very much. Thank you so much. Okay.
Uh, so, um, if you have any other questions with
any information report, please raise your hand. I think we've
covered one and two. Uh, so number three, future long
- term care facilities, Councillor. Thank you, Mayor Patterson, through
you. Uh, this motion came about in 2001. Did The
Clerk recall who put forward this motion. Or 2021. Thank
you. No, it wasn't in 26, five year old motion.
Thank you. Madam Kirk. I'm sorry Councillor Tozo. I wasn't
anticipating the question. Could you repeat it, please? Thank you.
So this motion was before day in 2021, not 2001.
Do you recall who put forward the motion originally? I'm
just curious. I don't recall off the top of my
head, no. I think it was former Councillor Holland, but.
Okay. Very, okay. That's, that's just my memory. I'm not
paying present. Interesting. Well, five years later, we have an
answer. So thank you. Okay. Number four, 2026 municipal debt
limits. Number five enhanced property standards. Councillocenic. Thank you, your
worship. Um, I love this report. And, uh, through you,
a question to staff. So with these recommendations for enhanced
communications, they haven't happened yet. Is that correct? And if
so, when will they start to happen. Mr. Compo. Thank
you for you. I appreciate the question. Councillor Sanek. So
we've already started to implement some of these processes, especially
with the communication to our property standards officers on how
they're communicating back to the public on certain complaints or
to update feedback. We're also working on or we have
implemented, I should say a callback card so that, uh,
what we're going to do to door. We're really trying
to focus on providing that relationship with how you contact
a by the officer making that more apparent, how to
specifically get a hold of that officer. So those are
some of the things that we're working on as long
as, um, as well as, uh, we're working on the
city website to provide more clear information so that we
can, um, provide some information back to the public. So
the number of things working on. Some have already been
done, but we're still focusing and continuing that. Great. And,
uh, just so, um, I'm clear. And so some of
that communication would be with the person who made the
complaint. Uh, because that's where I always hear things kind
of fall through. Like someone for me, it's not the
tenant landlord at complaints, but it's neighbour to neighbour. So
someone makes a complaint. And then they'll call me, you
know, like a month later or so. And they say,
is it still ongoing? Like I can still see that
it's happening. I made the complaint. So is some of
that enhanced communication with the person who made the complaint
late to educate them. Um, about what the city can
do and can't do. Thank you and through you. Uh,
yes. So we hear that quite often as well that
this case is still under review. We can't provide any
additional feedback. Um, we understand the frustration that that causes.
There is some legal components to that that we can't
disclose where things are in terms of, uh, the case.
Um, but we're also understanding of where the community's frustration
is is for that. So we're working on providing again,
more information on what we can provide, what we can't
provide in trying to just pick up the phone, call
somebody, uh, who's the complainant and have that personal touch
as well to have those conversations opposed to more generic
messaging, for lack of a better term. Perfect. And, uh,
my last question is, um, it was just asked if
in, um, you know, how when we send out the
property taxes, we always have that little insert flyer, um,
about information about the city. If maybe we could advertise
the good neighbour, the good neighbour policy in there, um,
in the future, uh, with as part of the communications
to roll out, you know, like these enhanced property standards.
Great. Thank you. Thank you. Cancer Toso. Thank you Mayor
Paterson through you. I think, uh, Director Campo knows where
I'm probably going to go with this. And one of
the questions I've asked about is the vegetation maintenance and
freedom of expression, considerations. So I guess a question I
have, because I've dealt with this a lot in my
district lately is when is a lawn unkept and when
is it a freedom of expression and what like what
objective measures does the city use when it comes to
differentiating? This is really your worship. Like what's the, like
what's differentiation between the two between, this is my freedom
of expression and I just don't want to mow my
yard. Miss Morley. Thank you. Please enlighten us. Thank you
through your worship. So we do have the benefit of
two Ontario Superior Court of Justice decisions on this topic
now where the courts have held that naturalized lawns have
been recognised in certain circumstances as a protected form of
expression. So there was a decision in Mississauga this year
where the court declared that Mississauga's restrictions on grass height
were unconstitutional, uh, because they infringed on the property owners'freedom
of expression. They view gardening to be a form of
expressive conduct that is protected under the charter. Um, I
can confirm that the cities enforcement practices are focused on
objective, health and safety concerns, particularly around fire risk. And
the city enforces its bylaw in a way that's intended
to minimally impair the property owner's right to expressive conduct
and focuses purely on objective health and safety issues. So
I got some follow - up questions on that one.
So a yard is unkept in basically what we're looking
for, because this has happened in my district now is
like, it could be rats and there could be like
problems with that area in ticks are certainly an issue.
I understand Nomo Mei, but now we're in June and
July and August. And there's definitely fire hazards here. Like
one such example in my district is just a vacant
lot. It's being kept unkempt. Like how do we deal
with that from a municipal perspective if it's a freedom
of expression? Like, I mean, I'm just confounded by this.
Ms. Morley. Thank you. And through your worship. As I
indicated, our focus is on objective health and safety concerns.
If the concerns are purely aesthetic in nature and are
subjective, the city doesn't enforce its bylaws in a way
that would impair someone's right to freedom of expression through
gardening. So our bylaw officers will investigate and they'll assess
whether there are health and safety risks associated with that
property. There may be other property standards concerns that arise
as a result of the unkempt yard, such as rodent
infestation, for example. And there are other avenues for enforcement
to address those types of issues. So with another avenue
be like calling public health, would that be a more
fruitful way? Or is there anything the city can do
in these cases? Because I've got, I've had a few
frustrated constituents. Thank you. And through your worship, our provisions
in the city's property standards by a law that requires
property owners to maintain their property in a way that
prevents infestation of rodents. So if that was deemed to
be an issue, then the property standards by luck could
be invoked to take enforcement action. I feel this isn't
well known. Does no, like does the public know, cause
I think that we need to, sorry, this is a
comment, but also a question. Could we like inform the
public a bit better that this is a charter related
issue? Because I've had some really interesting conversations with constituents
that the property owner next door has a charter protected
right to leave their lawn unmaintained. Is there, like, this
is just, I'm sure I'm hoping staff can appreciate as
a councillor. This is a really challenging thing to explain
to constituents. Miss Marley. Thank you. And through your, it's
very difficult to provide definitive information to residents on this
issue, as you can imagine every circumstance is going to
be entirely fact specific in terms of whether charter rights
have been invoked and or infringed upon. We could certainly
provide information to council on the 2026 decision, but we
would not want to definitively state that we no longer
have an ability to enforce our bylaws. I'm going to
have, I'm going to, I'm going to have to think
on that one. Thank you. Christian asked and question answered.
Can I Councillor Joso? Okay. Okay. That seems to have
sparked a few other questions around the table. Uh, next
is, um, Councillor Shapes, you had your hand up first.
Yes. And first I'm going to say, I don't believe
I'm going to be saying this, but it's confused as
Councillor Tozo. In regards to this. I know when we
first started changed this bylaw, it was to help allow
individuals to have naturalized front yards. Either vegetable gardens or
flower beds to have polymer - friendly gardens. However, I
also believe that a number of people don't know we've
changed this bylaw to allow this. So either they're just
not maintaining it unintentionally. That was not using their charter
rights. Or they're using this as a loophole. My concern
is not to receive the C number of concerns because
I've. Been in the. I give you preamble, but I
just need you to get to. Well, I understand. Maybe
how we can sort of close this down. And define
this and allow people to naturalize and use their charger
rights is maybe doing something similar to what the fire
department does with their fire permits. And we're going to
have a fire pit. The apply online, do all the
check boxes to make sure it's in the red location.
It's free and it's registered. Because in quite certain, and
I'm also thinking of the bylaw officers, the amount of
time that they take to get to investigate all these
complaints. If someone wanted user charter rights, have a naturality's
front yard. That they could register somehow through the licensing
or bylaw. So then they could have a permit. And
if the by - wide received a complaint, they could
just look it up and going, no, it's already been
approved. It's fine. And if anyone doesn't have their permit,
then they'd be asked to cut the cross or get
a permit. I'm just wondering if staff would have any
thoughts in regards to that. Mr. Coppel. Thank you and
through you. Uh, so there's a lot to unpack with
that one. Um, in terms of, again, we came to
administrative policies a year or two ago when we did,
I believe it was last year when we amended the
yards by law. That was consultation with the naturalized lawn
associations. Um, we did lots of public engagement for that.
And we did outreach along with after the fact we
did public engagement to really try to educate the public
on, um, what the new regulations have been. In terms
of the registry, I do think that it's something that
we can look at. I would be, um, just conscious
of the fact that, you know, the way the bylaw
is written right now is, um, to Miss Moiley's point
around health and safety, um, and we have the prohibited
plants list. So we put the onus back on the
complainant that they have to identify what type of plant
is in violation compared to that list. And they provide
that information to bylaw. In terms of the registry itself,
I think it would be, um, somewhat difficult because, um,
again, when I think of a registry, a registry comes
back to, uh, the staff have done review that they've,
um, had an intake. They're reviewing the types of plants
that are involved in our officers on trains in terms
of that. But it is something that we can explore.
I'm not saying it can't be. Um, but I would
just like to point that out. So as a follow
- up question, unless the hand behind me. Could we
modify the Baylar to see if you want to naturalize
your front yard. You need to have the permit. And
if not, you do need to maintain your grass to
a certain level. Commissioner active. Thank you. And through you.
Um, so just in terms of what's before you tonight
and what we can commit to, I think, um, to
Mr. Campo's point, we haven't been able to assess this
from a staff resourcing or like a feasibility perspective. So
I'd be hesitant to suggest that we go with a
program like that at this point. I think it's something
we can explore at Council's direction, but we do need
time to properly assess whether we could do it effectively
with the resource implications would be given all of the
other, uh, priorities we have right now for the enforcement
team. But happy to do so if Council wants us
to direct us to have a look at that more
formally. But we wouldn't be able to be back with,
um, any information on that for some months, I would
say based on the rest of the priorities. We're trying
to complete right now. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Any other
questions at number five. Okay. We have no information reports
from members of Council. Miscellaneous business. We have one motion
moved by Councillo Sanic. Second by Cancer Bohm. That is
requested, sorry, two. First it is requested by Diane Fitzel,
Earthfest Kingston City Council proclaimed June 1 to 6, 2026
is Canadian Environment Week in the city of Kingston. Number
two, thest requested by Hal Cain, Cycle Kingston City Council
proclaimed June 1 to 7, 2026 as cycling weak in
the city of Kingston. All those in favor. Opposed, and
that's carried. Okay, we have one new motion. Uh, it
is moved by Deputy Mayor Steven and seconded by Councillor
Amos. Whereas national studies have identified barriers contributed to declining
participation among girls and young women in sport, including lack
of belonging, inadequate access to safe and equitable facilities, negative
body image and environments that do not adequately support the
needs of female athletes. Whereas creating equitable access to appropriate
dedicated gender specific dressing room spaces is an important component
of fostering inclusive, respectful and supportive sport environments that encourage
continued participation and retention of girls and women in sport.
Whereas the city of Kingston's ice allocation policy and guidelines
affirm equitable access to arena facilities for all users, regardless
of gender orientation and require booking groups to provide ice
use schedules one week in advance to support accurate communication
of PAD and facility assignments. Whereas the policy does not
currently include specific provisions governing the assignment of dressing rooms
or defined standards for ensuring consistent application of equitable access
considerations. Whereas current operational practice relies on booking groups to
request required dressing rooms at the time of booking. The
city staff assigning rooms based on those requests and documenting
them and booking notes and facility communications, including Digital Signage
Wear applicable. Whereas this client - driven process generally functions
effectively for most user groups, but can result in inconsistency
and circumstances where a participant composition is not fully anticipated
or clearly communicated at the time of booking. Whereas private
hockey schools and similar commercial skill development, ice users operate
outside of formal sanctioned league structures. It may have variable
participant composition creating a need for clearer and more consistent
dressing room designation practices to support equitable access outcomes. Whereas
a recent operational review identified issues involving dressing room allocation
for a private hockey school booking, highlighting a gap in
policy direction for the specific user category. Therefore be it
resolved to Council Direct staff to review and amend the
city of Kingston Ice Allocation Policy and guidelines to establish
clear provisions for dressing room assignments specific to private hockey
schools and similar commercial skill development Ice users. And to
implement an operational standard whereby city, staff assigned dressing room
allocations for such bookings at the time of booking, including
designation of appropriate space to support equitable access for female
participants. And the Council to further direct that all other
ICE user groups will continue to operate under existing client
request model where my addressing room requirements are identified by
user groups and reflected in booking communications and facility signage
where applicable. In the Council Direct staff to ensure dressing
room assignments for applicable bookings are clearly communicated at the
time of booking confirmation and consistently reflected in a facility
operational systems, including Digital Signage. The Council Direct staff to
return accounts with updated policy language and implementation recommendations by
the end of summer 2026 for Fole Implementation for the
2026 to 2027 ICE season. Deputy Mayor Stephen, you have
The Floor. Thank you Mayor Paterson. I'm sure everyone's still
awake after that long, long motion. Um, thanks for the
introduction. So, um, first off, thanks to Councillor IMS for
seconding and also I want to thank River as well,
uh, for coming to speak to us tonight. River and
I had a really great phone conversation yesterday. And it
was decided that this delegation was actually a pretty unique
opportunity considering it's the start of Pride Month to help
educate us and remind us of how important language can
be. Um, so just to put everyone's mind at ease,
I do have some amendments that will be coming. I've
got them ready to go. Um, but just before we
get to that, I would like to set the context
of where this motion actually came from. Um, so it
started off with a very specific complaint that had happened
a few times. And what it had to do with
was specifically with girls change rooms. So it was around
Coed organisations where there was some sort of breakdown in
communication where the need of the change rooms wasn't being
expressed clearly. And therefore wasn't being provided properly at city
facilities. So staff investigated when we brought this to them.
And interestingly, they actually found, you know, yeah, the operational
stuff here, but the gap in our ice allocation policy.
So while the Ice Allocation policy itself talks about equity
of access, there's nothing in there about change rooms. And
I think given the current political climate, I think it's
important that we make sure that this is a piece
of our policy so that this carries forward beyond whoever's
in charge and whoever staff are. And that way it
gives them clear direction what to follow. So in terms
of conversations with river, I think what I want to
highlight is a couple of things. So what came out
of this are some lessons learned. And one of the
things is the really important reminder that language does matter.
And so I really appreciate, um, the educational piece of
sex - based language versus gender - based or cultural
- based or identity - based language and how it's
really important that the city move in a direction toward
identity - based language. So that was a really important
part of our conversation. Um, something else I just want
to acknowledge too from a Council perspective is that hard
things are hard. And sometimes you nail it. And sometimes
you're close, but you're not quite there. And so again,
I think I want to thank River because there was
a lot of grace given there and a lot of
understanding that this is genuinely coming from a good place.
We are trying to do right by community. And so
as I said, there are some amendments that are coming
in order to just correct that. Um, the last thing
I just want to mention too, is, and I don't
know if anyone else around the horseshoe has felt this
before, but, um, sometimes you get a feeling that something's
not quite right. And I had that feeling as we
were working on this motion. I couldn't pinpoint it. And
I didn't slow down to really dig into myself and
be like, what is that feeling? And I think it
would have ultimately come back to language, right? So I
just want to say, you know, trusting your gut sometimes
is hard and it's a good reminder for me to
make sure that I slow down and make sure that
I'm doing things in a good way. So as for
those amendments, The Clerk's probably like, are we getting to
the amendments? Um, so there's two pieces to the amendment.
Would you like it up first or can I speak
now while it's going up. Why don't we put them
up and then I'll restart your time. You can speak
to the amendments.
Okay. So First Amendment move backstown. Stephen, seconded by Councillor
Amos. The new motion number one be amended. In the
first operative clause to delete appropriate space to support equitable
access for FEMO participants and insert thereto change room spaces
to ensure equitable access for all participants. So the clause
reads as follows. And I think you can see it
there in the bold. So I think we'll, so we're
presenting these individually. Or together. Oh, all is one. Okay.
And then further, uh, new motion number one, be further
amended by adding the following is the penultimate operative clause.
The Council Director staff to review an amend the city
of Kingston ice allocation policy and guidelines to his identity
- based language to establish clear provisions for dressing room
assignments specific to private hockey schools and similar commercial development.
ICE use. So that's, that's the addition. Okay. So dually
moved and seconded. So Councillor Stephen, I'll restart your time
and you can speak to the amendment. Thank you, Mayor
Paterson. Um, so just briefly, it's just, it's changing the
word female to all participants. That's, that was the overall
intention. Um, we were, I think, a little bit too
focused in on the girl's experience. And so we did
use the word female and just wanted to acknowledge that,
you know, any harm that was done since your apologies,
that was not the intention. Um, and we, we are
trying to correct it. So obviously we want equitable access
for all participants. Um, the second piece of the amendment
is touching on what River mentioned in the delegation. And
it's talking about using identity base language. So again, just
giving staff that direction, um, to, to start working towards
that and looking at the policy through, through that different
lens. I'll leave it there. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
Does anyone want to speak to the amendment Councillor Miss.
Thank you, Mr. Patterson, through you. Um, I too had
a conversation with River and I really appreciated the, uh,
enlightenment. And, uh, I had one lens and it was
obviously in a protection mode for, uh, female hockey. And
she, or sorry, River brought forward some really good conversation
for me. And I really appreciate that. And so this,
this amendment captures that in a, in a, in a
good context. So, uh, I appreciate the mover. Bringing this
forward. And for rivers comments on this to help address
this. So well done. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else on
the amendment? Councillor Bomb. Thank you. Your worship and through
you as a father of a couple girls who play
hockey, um, I think this is a great amendment to
this. Additionally, as a coach, there's a lot of courses
that coaches take on exactly this. And it's something where
just to be a coach, you now have to be
quite aware of this and you have to manage these
situations. So the fact that this is kind of aligning
right with the coaching courses and how you, how you
can have, you know, more inclusive and equity and all
these things along with sports so that we don't inadvertently
have people disappear from a sport because they didn't feel
part of it. This is, I think the right move
to have a policy to really look at that and
to correct any language errors that may exist there so
that everybody can feel welcome. So thank you for bringing
this forward. Okay. We will call the vote unless, because
Steven, it's anything else you wanted to add. Okay. Okay.
So with that, we will call the vote on the
amendment.
And that carries. Okay. So we're back to the motion
as amended. Is there a Councillor Stephen? Thank you for
supporting the amendment. I'll let others speak if they'd like
to. And then I have something else to add at
the end. Super. Is there anybody else that wishes to
speak to the motion. Council famous. Thank her, Pastor. Very
quickly. I have coached for a number of years. Close
to 15. And this has been a long struggle and
battle. To see equity brought forward. In any sort of
light in regards to hockey allocation or ice allocations. So,
um, I'm super proud that this is moving forward. I
know our policy has been a little bit dated and
it's always good to review our policies and move them
in a good direction. And, uh, for an old retired
hockey coach, this is nice to see. So well done.
Okay. Der Premier Steven. You have the last word. Thank
you Mayor Paterson. Yeah. I just want to sort of
end by acknowledging that again, any work in EDI or
to SLGPTQ to IA plus space. Like all of this
stuff, um, can make those of us who have grown
up with privilege and not in this world feel kind
of uncomfortable. And I just want to acknowledge that that's
real. And it's okay. And I think that as long
as we are bringing brave enough to try and we
are humble enough to accept when we don't quite get
it right. And we are carrying enough to actually listen
and learn and try to change. Um, I would just,
I would hate for us to have this conversation on
this policy. And then for someone to say the word
female or male and have someone jump down their throat,
like if I don't think that that's the intention of
the community at large, I just want to acknowledge that
most people will give you grace if you try. So
let's, let's, let's mess up. Let's keep trying. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. So with that, we will call the
vote on new motion number one as amended.
And that carries. Okay. We have no other emotions. Are
there any notices of motion. Not Madam Clerk cross for
minutes, please. Moved by Councillor Sanek, seconded by Councillor Osterhoff
that the minutes of city council meeting 2026 13 held
Tuesday, May 19th, 2026 be confirmed. All this in favor.
Opposed. And that's carried. Okay. Is there any other business
Councillor Tozo. Thank you, Mayor Paterson, through you. I would
like to thank the vast majority of Council who all
wrote War Red shirts today. Um, tomorrow is the red
shirt day of action and accessibility inclusion, just reminding the
community to wear red tomorrow. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor
Ridge. Thank you. You worship in for you. Um, I
just, I just wanted to bring to the attention of
Council that, uh, FIFA World Cup is beginning soon. And
I am unusually excited about that. Uh, I believe it
begins on the 11th and goes through to July and
that there will be an event in Superior Market Square
on the 27th, uh, that I'm really looking forward to
attending with my son. Um, so, um, and I'm sure
if there are any other events, we'll hear about them
in the near future, but I just wanted to highlight
that. Thank you. Great Councillor Chase. Thank you. Um, just
be aware. June is Portugal Heritage Month. June 10th is
Portugal Day. In the Portuguese community is actually hosting a
Portugal Day Festival, Friday and Saturday at Our Lady of
Fatima Parish Hall. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Um, Deputy
Mayor Steven. Sorry. Thank you Mayor Paterson. One thing I
forgot. I'm very excited. Um, so Saturday June 6th from
one to 4 p. m. The public is invited to
the grand reopening of the Isabelle Turner Library branch. It
is awesome. And I cannot wait for everyone to see
it. Thank you. Very good. Okay. Madam Clerk asked for
bylos, please. Move my Council McLaren seconded by Councillor Glenn
that bylaws one through six and eight be given their
first and second reading. All this in favor. Opposed. And
that's carried. Move by Councillor McLaren Seknet by Councillor Glenn.
That bylaws two through eight be given their third reading.
All this in favor. Opposed. And that's carried. Motion to
adjourn, please. Move by Deputado Mar Stevens. Second by Councillor
Sanek. All those in favor opposed. And we are a
germs. Thanks very much.