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Ajax Plans Long-Term Financial Sustainability - 11 May 26
Ajax · May 12, 2026
Um,
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acknowledging the land on which we
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the Missagas. More specifically, the
Missagas of Skugog Island First Nation,
signatories of the Gunshot Treaty of
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acknowledging the United Nations
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these principles close as we move
forward as we continue towards truth
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kindness and respect as a community.
We'll now call this meeting to order.
Any disclosures of community interest
from committee? Seeing none, going to
get a mover for the adoption of minutes.
I see councelor Bower. Any questions,
comments, concerns on the minutes of
April 13, 2026? Seeing no none, we'll
start the vote.
And that passes. Can I get um
A mover for the closed meeting of April
13, 2026.
I see councelor Henry. Thank you. Does
anybody need to go into close session to
discuss the closed meeting minutes?
Um, councelor Crawford, did you want to
go into close session to discuss the
minutes?
>> Council Crawford.
>> No, no, no, no, no. I was gonna Oh, we
don't have We don't need a seconder.
Sorry. I apologize.
>> No. All good. Thank you. All right.
Seeing none, then we will move the
minutes. Start the vote.
my stop vote button. There it is. Okay.
And that passes. Um we're going to
change the agenda a bit, council. Um
before the consent agenda, we're
actually going to go to um items six,
which is all the presentations due to
the fact that we have consultants on the
call today. So, um, we're going to start
with, uh, presentation 6.1, the
financial sustain sustainability plan
update from Hemson Consulting Limited.
And we'll get Julie. Go ahead.
>> Yes. Thank you. Um, so, good afternoon,
Mayor, uh, Mayor Collier, members of
council. Um, I'm happy today to present,
uh, to you the financial sustainability
plan update. And before I hand it over
to our presenters, I'd like to remind
council that this financial
sustainability plan builds on the prior
versions that were brought to council in
the past, uh, with the first one being
delivered in 2013. Delivering this
update was part of the council strategic
plan deliverable this term. The
financial sustainability plan is a key
uh a key part of the town's financial
framework providing a long-term view to
support uh our decisions on
infrastructure services and growth and
how budgets are funded. Building on our
asset management approved levels of
service and reflecting all the changing
economic decisions, the legislative
updates and the growing pressures on our
resources. Uh this plan brings together
the pieces to guide the town's long-term
financial decisions. Today you will hear
from Hemson Consulting and town staff
outline outlining the analysis that was
done and recommended policy directions
for council's consideration. So Hemson
Consulting was hired in November 2024 to
develop a financial model uh bench
benchmark Ajax to peers and provide a
long-term outlook based on the 2025 uh
10-year capital forecast and the 2024
development charge background study.
Christopher Blet and Andrew Mirabella
from Hemson Consulting will be
delivering a presentation and following
that Kevin Douglas the acting supervisor
of accounting for the town of Ajax will
then present the staff recommendations
and proposed policy updates.
Um this will be for council's
consideration and will include how we
fund infrastructure, manage reserves,
and use debt going forward. So over to
Hempson Consulting.
Great.
Thanks. Uh, thanks Julian. Appreciate
the introductions. Um, my name again is
Andrew Mirabella. Um, I'm from Hemson
Consulting and and alongside with me is
uh Christopher Blet. I'm just sharing my
screen. Um,
can everyone see that
presentation?
Yes, we can.
>> Great. Okay, thank you. Um, so one
minute, one moment. Sorry, one moment.
Uh,
>> is that our agenda right now? We cannot
see your presentation. Can you click
again?
>> Oh,
now
>> waiting for sharing source.
>> Okay, try it again.
There we go.
>> There we go. It's the PDF. Yes, we got
it.
>> Okay, great. Thank you, chair. Um, and
alongside with me, sorry, just with my
introduction. I'm Andrew Rebella and I
got Christopher Ble with me. There was a
little technical glitch on the email on
the connection side. Christopher never
received the link. So, he's going to be
he's in my office and we're going to
you'll see me kind of slide over and
pass him over part of the presentation
as well here today. Um so to the point
today is about uh presenting the results
of the financial sustainability plan
update. Um and and uh following this
presentation um as indicated um town
staff will have a subsequent um
presentation on some of the
recommendations and policy items.
So really the Hemson part of the agenda
is to go through some of the key
findings. Um we'll go through the
background and key assumptions that were
used to develop the financial plan.
We'll go through the financial forecast
and some of the benchmarking analysis
that we conducted. Um we'll provide an
overview of the financial policy
recommendations and we'll also just get
into some of the key takeaways. And um
as indicated, this was a a piece of work
that's been in the development now for
um well over a year with a lot of hard
work and dedication from town staff in
reviewing the models and developing the
model in tandem with Hemson. So um just
as a early thank you to staff for for
this uh for the help and the ongoing
relationship here through this process.
Um so just as an overview some of the
key findings of the financial
sustainability plan update. Um one of
the things that you'll see and kind of
Christopher will allude through and he
goes through some of the technical parts
is the town is in a strong fiscal
position. Um you know given some of the
low debt that currently exists. um the
reserve fund position as it stands and
and some of the financial policies that
have been in place largely due to the um
earlier work of your financial
sustainability plan that was done uh
years ago. Um the forecast um however
looks at a pretty substantial capital
plan and a need of about $740 million
through to 2034. Um, and we'll get into
what that capital program looks like,
but that is a higher level of capital
spend than has been seen the town
historically.
And in order to do that, there are
recognizing an increase or a level of
tax increases um in order to kind of
keep up with that capital plan. Um,
recognizing that we'll need additional
funding sources to carry out that level
of investment. The infrastructure
reserves and debt financing are critical
tools here that are going to help the
town moving forward. One, making sure
that we sustain a significant or
sufficient balance of reserves on hand.
And two, we carry out the and we use
debt finance in a very strategic way in
order to um carry out that capital pro
program and also kind of keeping that
debt financing looking at that over the
longer term and how that relates to the
provincial requirements as well as the
town's debt policy limits.
Um and the town has been proactive in
setting a strong policy framework for
long-term financial sustainability, but
recognizing some adjustments are needed
um to modernize it and also to make some
adjustments for the way the plan the
town would like to do business going
forward in order to manage their
infrastructure and manage their um
financial needs over the longer term. Um
one thing I'll note just as a footnote
here, the analysis itself was developed
using kind of 2025 budget data. Um and
and and that's kind of the basis for the
fiscal plan here just because the timing
of when the the work was undertaken
itself.
So just in terms of the financial
sustainability plan, um really builds on
the town's work first completed back in
2013 and it's a pretty um important
document that the town has and and and
quite forwardlooking in the sense that
you've developed one back in 2013 and
looking at an update and really kind of
help drive some of those long-term
sustainability requirements. And this is
really a good framework and policy
objectives to help make informed uh
decision- making. It complements your
budget process. Really helps the town
identify where those challenges and
opportunities are going to exist over
the next 5 to 10 years. And also helps
kind of test different policy
directives. And that was one of the key
things of this model of what we
developed. we were able to test
different different results and
different um and different inputs to
look at what those different policy
impacts would do to the long-term
sustainability of the municipality. Um
so the the model itself is quite dynamic
in that particular sense and the way
we've structured it.
So just with kind of some of the the
background parts, I will now pass it
over to my colleague Christopher Blet to
kind of go through some of the
background data assumptions and and some
of the key results of the plan itself.
Sounds good. Thank you, Andrew. I
apologize for the bit of the switcheroo
there on the seats, but nonetheless, we
can get right into kind of the
assumptions and the forecast side of
things. So, really, the the FSP model is
driven by a set of highle assumptions.
Um, you know, we we really need these
assumptions in order to formulate the
entirety of the forecast. Really the
basis here is a 10-year capital plan
based out of 2025 with some adjustments
based on the asset management plan and
as well as the DC study. We also have a
development forecast a development
forecast of our housing population
employment that helps drive a lot of the
operating costs and as well as
assessment growth in the analysis that
we've uh that we've developed for the
town. There's some other components as
well. Uh we do reserve forecasting. We
forecast those balances based on the
capital program, all your needs, all
your contributions to reserves,
assumptions on interest rates and so on
in order to understand the outlook of
your reserves over the longer term. We
also make assumptions on debt financing.
You know, we recognize and you'll see
some of this in the uh the rest of this
presentation and some of the findings
from from staff that you'll see uh
subsequent to this. But ultimately we
need to make assumptions on debt
financing in order to undertake capital
projects that are both critical to the
town but also are um um you know
significant in terms of the magnitude of
the capital program. Debt financing is
an important tool that we use as part of
the exercise here that complements all
your other funding sources and financing
uh methodologies as well. We've also
made assumptions on declining reliance
to external revenues. Really what we're
what we're talking about here are
primarily the casino Ajax revenues and
recognizing that those revenues have
declined over time and potentially pose
a risk over the long term. We want to
make sure that we're planning for those
risks going forward. One last point to
make here like Andrew mentioned uh this
is the analysis that we undertook as
part of this retainer was undertaken in
2025. So all our costs that you see here
are in $205.
The first finding on the analysis, the
10-year gross capital program totals
just under $740 million. So $740 million
from 20 2025 to 2034. Quite an extensive
amount of capital. A few things to
notice here in 2025, for example, in
terms of the budgeted spend just under
$40 million. But going forward, looking
at the actual needs of capital,
significant increases in spending are
needed in order to maintain those levels
of service. So what we're looking at
here is the cost of capital in order to
be able to service new development. So
all your new facilities, your new roads,
anything in improvements that are needed
as development occurs. But at the same
time, your infrastructure is aging. The
infrastructure requires maintenance.
Those costs are also included in here in
order to be able to undertake those uh
capital needs and continue to provide
service. To give that some more context,
the green line here represents the
historical annual average spending on
capital of $29.3 million based on some
of the his historical data from 2019 to
2023 adjusted to $25. Now, in comparison
to what you've done before relative to
what is projected and needs to be done
going forward, that's represented by the
blue line of just under $74 million.
That's about 2.5 times higher than that
historic average. So important to
recognize that going forward there are
additional needs that are required in
order to be able to service development
and undertake state of good repair
capital. One last point I'll make about
this chart is that this particular
picture is not atypical. We are doing a
number of these assignments for other
mun other municipalities uh uh sort of
across the province and the picture is
very similar in terms in terms of
looking at what the needs are. The needs
are extensive, but they are needed in
order to continue to provide services
for residents.
The town will need to utilize all its
available financial tools to undertake
that capital plan. So, what we're
looking at here are the reserve balances
for two of our critical reserves, our
tax uh two of the tax funding reserves,
particularly focused in the green, the
asset management reserves, and in the
gold, the development reserve. The
development reserve really primarily
used for uh funding nongc eligible
shares of growth related projects while
your green the asset management reserves
really related to funding your state of
good repair maintaining your
infrastructure um um over time. The
green represent the the the picture in
the green in terms of our asset
management reserves. You can see there's
over the forecast period there is
significant pressure over the few first
few years of that forecast going from a
balance of about $80 million down to
just under $60 million. However, there
is a buildup of reserves going forward
beyond that fiveyear uh 5year period. On
the development reserve side, we're
generally maintaining that development
reserve balance just over $20 million
over that 10-year forecast period.
However, in order to be able to achieve
this picture, there's a number of
assumptions and forecast uh uh findings
that need to be uh kind of outlined.
Number one, the 2% infrastructure levy
is maintained over the 10-year period.
So, we're assuming continued reduced
reliance on those external sources. So,
our casino Ajax revenues, which requires
the need for those for the 2%
infrastructure levy to continue over
time. In addition to that, from the
previous slide, you you saw the main
driver of the kind of the picture here
are those extensive capital needs. We do
need those funds in order to be able to
maintain our reserves from going into a
notional or into a uh negative position.
In addition to that for the development
reserve and for the infrastructure
that's that's growthreated but for those
shares that can't be funded through
development charges we've assumed debt
financing in order to be able to
undertake those works though that debt
financing is needed to undertake major
growth capital both DC funded and town
funded portions. One important thing is
we did a number of sensitivity testing
scenarios around this uh sort of
picture. One thing that we found is that
without the infrastructure levy or
without any debt financing and using
those tools, the reserves would be
depleted uh ultimately in terms of from
a notional perspective doesn't mean that
the town will ever allow that to occur.
But from a modeling and theoretical
perspective, that is the picture that we
saw uh kind of going forward. The
alternative would be without these
tools, these financing tools, and
without the 2% infrastructure levy, um,
in the absence of of any other options,
we would need to defer capital to future
years beyond the 10-year period.
The picture here shows the result of
that, the real tax levy increase and
what that looks like. So, the real tax
levy increases are needed in order to
maintain services. The bar there
representing the 5-year forecast average
tax levy increase from 26 to 2030. the
uh the average annual increase of about
4.2%. That is an increase in the total
tax levy. And I'll and I'll also add
that that is a real increase, meaning
inflation is not included as part of
that picture. To give that some context
from a historical perspective, the
10-year average real tax levy increase
has been about 3.5%. So, a little higher
um about 0.7% higher um sort of in the
going forward forecast. Another point to
make here, the green bar represents the
forecasted real tax rate increase once
again without inflation in the picture
of about 2.6%. That's achieved through
revenue from the assessment or or
assessment growth of about 1.6%.
So in order to to to kind of put the
full picture here in the absence of
assessment growth or perhaps in if
assessment growth was to come in lower
than our projection of about 1.6% 6%
that tax rate increase would be higher
given everything else equal given all
the needs that we've identified
previously. Now the outlook the outlook
post 2031 t tax levy increases continue
to be needed to meet operating and
capital needs. They will continue to be
higher than historical spending. The 2%
infrastructure levy is needed in order
to fund those taxf funed capital needs
as well as an additional debt financing
for those major capital works. While the
town is expected to continue to grow
over the longer term, that generates new
assessment, but the cost costs will also
increase demand for those services,
which increases those costs as well.
Just to finish off kind of the uh the
presentation with a couple more slides
here on uh some benchmarking that we've
done. Uh this particular picture here
shows the town's annual asset management
contributions. So what you contribute to
capital needs that are related to state
or good repair. what you contribute to
your reserves on a per capita basis on
the left and on relative to the total
replacement value of your tax funded
infrastructure on the on the chart on
the right there. Um in in summary,
really what we're looking at here is
when we compare uh the town of Ajax to
or some of our uh kind of comparative
municipalities, those contributions fall
in kind of the mid-range of the
municipalities, showing one or two
things or showing kind of two things
really that the town is comparable to
some of some of our other municipal
peers in terms of those contributions,
but also uh this is a tool or a way in
order to be able to measure over time
how the town of Ajax stacks against uh
other municipalities as well.
Uh following from what we saw in the
beginning and Andrew outlined, you know,
the town has been doing an excellent job
in terms of maintaining the fiscal
outlook or the fiscal picture for the
municipality. The town's current debt
levels are on the low end of
comparators. What you see on the chart
here is a few pieces of information. The
green representing uh policy limits of
comparable municipalities. In the case
of the town of Aex, you have a 7.5%
policy limit relative to source
revenues. That comparable policy limit
with other municipality ranges from that
range around 7 to 15%.
However, in terms of your actual debt,
you are quite low. You are on the lower
end of these comparables represented by
the gold bars. You know, kind of just in
and around that 1 to 2% um sort of
range. So that's well below your policy
limit and well below the provincial debt
limit of 25% and well below your your uh
comparators um as well. What that means
is that the town does have room or does
have opportunity to undertake a lot of
that critical capital that's needed
especially your major facilities, major
roads perhaps that you need to undertake
in order to service development and
maintain state of good repair on that
infrastruure.
>> Gentlemen, um just I'm going to stop you
here. You are 16 minutes into the 10
minutes allotted. Do you mind just
summarizing for the next 30 seconds, the
next two slides?
>> Sure. Sure thing. I have uh one slide
left. Um so the to finalize here, the
town is in a strong fiscal position. Um
but some policy adjustments are needed
to align with the future outlook. So to
summarize really the the outcomes here,
our reserve and reserve funds, the
realloc there is opportunities for
reallocation of casino Ajax revenues um
to development reserve and strategic
reserves, developing target balances and
continuing to utilize that 2%
infrastructure levy. in terms of the
capital program, really looking at the
capital program, balancing the first
five years of that capital plan and
aligning those annual budget spends um
to uh to our reserves and our targets
and as well as reducing reliance like I
mentioned on the external funding.
There's opportunities for additional
debt financing as well. The town could
consider increasing that debt limit up
to 15% relative to the current uh 7.5%
increase. So, I'll call it there. That's
kind of pretty much my last slide and
I'll open it up to questions if council
has any.
>> I appreciate that. We have many
questions. We will start with uh
councelor Tyler Mort.
>> Thank you so much uh chair and thank you
for this report. Um as per the report uh
we really really recently received a
report in another meeting how growth is
not quite what we thought it was going
to be. Uh we're looking at a region that
is going to 850,000 by 20 early 2030s
and reaching the million mark almost 10
years farther out than we thought. So
how sustain my question is how
sustainable is it for the town to
continue relying on that growth to fund
infrastructure and services? Is there a
gap now that we see those numbers have
changed and does this report reflect
that?
>> So I can I can start with that uh kind
of question. So really in terms if the
term from the kind of the looking at the
analysis here if growth does not occur
to the level that is being projected two
one of two or two things really happen
uh your assessment growth is not going
to be uh projected coming out to the
level the same level as those initial
projections meaning you'll have less
assessment growth than than uh than
before. That means that you will be
obviously producing less tax revenues in
order to fund uh your services. However,
on the other side of the equation, we
need to think about, you know, if growth
isn't occurring to the same level or
magnitude that we're expected, perhaps
some of those needs and perhaps some of
those those services are not needed as
soon as perhaps what we're projecting.
So, for example, if growth has slowed
down, do we really need to construct
those new recreation facilities that are
needed in order to be able to service
that capacity? do we need to uh
construct those roads that are needed in
order to be able to service that new
development? And I recognize that not
not all infrastructure is built equal.
For example, there are certain services
where that's that's easier said than
done. Recreation, for example, but in
other services where you need to in
place some of that infrastructure in
order for that development to occur.
That may not be necessarily the case for
like I mentioned in the examples of the
road. So, there's kind of two sides of
the coin. um um when you look at that
type of kind of the the comparison of
development activity.
>> So if I may, Mr. Chair, so this
report and and moving forward we council
will have the flexibility to make
conditions make changes of condition
changes like this is not a where we have
to keep referring back saying well you
agree there is some flexibility here.
>> That is correct. So one of our part of
our retainer for this exercise was the
development of a financial model for the
town. So a model based in Excel. The
intention of that model is it is a
dynamic model. At the end of the day,
situation changes um all the time. Uh
we've seen slowdowns in development
activities across the board. Uh we've
seen uh changes to pricing and inflation
as you as you may be aware of different
situations occurring with our friends
down south and across the world. These
are the types of things where the model
can be dynamic for that kind of
sensitivity testing to see what the
outcomes are in this changing
environment.
>> Okay. Um I've got a couple other
questions here. I did my homework. Um if
council, this is considered a very
hypothetical situation and question for
me, but if council chose to not to
continue to not continue to put 2% into
the infrastructure le that was uh uh
changed for some reason. It happens. um
how it would affect this projection.
>> Yes,
>> if I may step in here, um there is
another staff presentation that does
address some of these questions. So, I'm
just wondering, are we able to go to the
second presentation first and then take
all the questions?
>> Um
do you think that would help answer a
lot of Yeah. You know what? Okay,
council, I have the queue. Please stay
queued up. Uh, we will go into the
second presentation and that may answer
some of the questions preemptively. So,
um, director Malcolm M, please go ahead.
>> Sorry. I will ask Kevin um Douglas to
sign on and deliver the presentation.
Kevin, could you just turn your
microphone on, please?
>> Hey, Jacqueline, can you hear me?
>> Yeah. Would you like to turn a camera on
or no?
>> Yep, I'll turn my camera on.
All right. Uh, does everything look
okay? You can hear me? Okay. And you can
see my my presentation screen.
>> Yeah, you're good to go.
>> All right. Awesome. All right. So, good
afternoon, members of council. So, uh,
my name is Kevin Douglas. I'm the acting
supervisor of accounting and I'll be
going through the 2026 financial
sustainability plan staff update to
complement the presentation that
Christopher and Andrew just did from
Hempson.
So the agenda the presentation we'll go
through the FSP model findings. We will
walk you through some of the policy
change recommendations. And so that
includes the funding allocation changes,
the budget spending guidelines, uh some
updates to the debt limits, and then
we'll finish it off with some key
takeaways.
Uh so just some background. So as you
just heard, uh Hempson uh developed a
model uh based on the 2025 capital
budget. What uh town staff did is we
updated it for the 2026 capital budget.
We did uh some adjustments to the 9-year
capital forecast and based on the most
recent information that we had to date,
we did do some uh adjustments to the
revenue findings. And I think
Christopher did a very good job of
summarizing that the FSP model findings
are very similar to to what he just went
through even after updating all of those
metrics.
So, I'll go through the policy change
recommendations a little bit more in
depth throughout the presentation, but
just at a high level, I'll walk you
through some of the main points that I
think is really important for council
and taxpayers to understand. So, we
really need to achieve sustainable
annual funding contributions through an
infrastructure levy as well as a
combination of investment income
returns.
We want to be able to utilize uh target
or minimum reserve balances to guide
annual spending instead of the 90% uh
spending caps that are currently in
place. So the current policy stipulates
that uh for asset management strategic
initiatives and town funded growth, we
can't actually budget to spend more than
90% of the revenue that's coming in. And
so we're recommending a little a change
from from that perspective. And we
really want to look to a balanced budget
to require reserve balances. And what
that means specifically is looking at at
least the first four years of the long
range capital forecast. And we want to
make sure that it is fully funded. And
in order to in order to do so, as
Christopher already uh talked about, we
are going to need to increase the town's
debt limits. And then one of the uh
other things that we're looking to do is
to reallocate proceeds on the sale of uh
property to strategic initiatives. So
right now it's going to the CIP
development reserve and I'll go into
that more in depth throughout the
presentation.
So, in order to achieve all the
recommendations that we are putting
forward, there's going to need to be
some adjustments to the funding
allocation
and we're really going to need to uh
decrease the reliance on external
funding for asset management needs. And
so, when we say external funding, we're
talking about casino Ajax and Alexa
revenues that we don't really have
control over. And as we've seen over the
last number of years, they've gone down
a bit. We're going to pause for a
minute. I'm just getting notes that we
lost the presentation. Council, can you
nod? Is that correct? You guys do not
see a presentation. Nod if you do not.
>> Okay. Can we double check screen again?
>> Can you share your screen again?
>> Yeah. Sorry about that.
>> Can you see it now?
>> Yeah, we're working now. Thank you. Oh,
okay. I promise I didn't touch anything.
>> No one's blaming. We're all good. Go
ahead.
>> I did notice something was different.
>> Okay. So um
uh given that there's a decreased
reliance on external funding uh we
really need to start to rely on
long-term investment returns uh for
funding the asset management and the
town fund portion of growth reserves.
Uh one other aspect that we are
recommending a change to is so the CCBF
which is the Canada community building
fund uh it has since been rebranded to
uh building community strong fund-
community stream. I know that's quite a
mouthful, but uh we're recommending that
be split uh between the asset management
and the gross reserves to support
housing, which is a new directive from
the AMO.
Okay. So, when we ran the numbers
through the uh FSP uh it was very clear
that uh there was insufficient funding
for capital needs over the long term.
Like I mentioned, that was really driven
by the reduction in casino Ajax and
alexicon uh revenues
and given that it resulted in large
draws on reserves which really limited
the ability for the town to leverage its
investment income
and therefore there was a high reliance
on taxf funded debt for growth related
capital needs.
So, we've kind of broken this
presentation down into three different
segments. We'll start out with asset
management and we'll go through the
policy framework changes that we're
recommending.
So, uh the council approved asset
management plan did identify a total
10-year spend of approximately $260
million to uh meet the approved levels
of service. Um, and so as I mentioned
before, um, instead of the spending
caps, the 90% spending caps that are
currently in place per policy, what
we're really recommending is, um, the
annual budget spending guidelines for
asset management related projects should
be tied to the AMP given that's what
council has approved from an approved
level of service standpoint. And so what
that means
Oh, uh, sorry. Is is, uh, I think my
present Oh,
okay. I think there's there's a delay in
the I I did change it, but it didn't go
right off the bat. Okay. Um, so average
annual spend for the 10-year long range
capital forecast by service area should
not exceed the average annual 10-year
renewal need of $26 million per year.
I'll wait for the screen to catch up
because I just changed it, but I don't
think it's catching up for my speaking
notes.
>> Um, don't worry about your slides if
they're not catching up. Go ahead and
keep we we have the presentation as
well.
>> Okay. All right. Uh so I'm going I'm on
the asset management uh funding versus
need slide for those of you that have
the slide deck in front of you.
Uh so really what what we wanted to
communicate as part of this slide is
that uh there is an impact that will be
had uh based on what council's funding
decisions are to deliver the approved
levels of service. So if you look at the
graph to the right, uh the blue line
um that is based on a 2% infrastructure
levy
versus the gray line is no
infrastructure levy. So you can see from
the gray line it is basically going down
to uh almost zero in terms of asset
management reserve funds which is not
sustainable. So, one of the
recommendations
that we are bringing forward, okay,
there it is. So, one of the one of the
recommendations that we're bringing
forward is that the uncommitted asset
management reserve balance should not
drop below two years of average annual
spending as forecasted in the town's
asset management plan, which is
approximately $52 million.
Um, so
if you look at the asset management
reserve funding, uh, the table to the
right. Yep, there we go. Okay. So, uh,
as you can see, uh, we are really
relying on, um, we don't want to rely on
the casino Ajax and alexon revenues to
fund asset management just given how
important that is. There's not a lot of
flexibility given the approved levels of
service. So, we want to reallocate some
of that funding when it comes to
fruition to fund strategic initiatives
as well as the town funded growth. We're
looking to allocate approximately 50% of
the CCBF revenues uh to growth projects.
And then it's really important to keep
in mind uh we're going to start
budgeting in our operating budget um
investment returns, equity investment
returns. But uh the model does assume a
fairly uh conservative return of about
5% per year. But you need to keep in
mind that if reserve balances get drawn
down, there's not going to be those
returns. Uh just given the fact that we
we can't invest as much as we would
like. So it's very important to keep
reserve balances at a healthy amount.
So next I'll go through the town funded
capital growth and the policy framework
there.
So I think one of the most important
things to note even if we are
reallocating uh some of the CC 50% of
the CCBF as well as equity returns to
fund town funded capital growth.
We still are quite a bit short of what
the needs are that were identified in
the DC background study.
So you can look at the uh proposed
funding of about 5.7 million which is on
the far right corner of the slide. But
when we looked at what was identified
per the DC background study in the model
that equated to about $10.4 million on
average per year. And so if we were to
be able to afford that, uh, debt is
going to be required to maintain
existing reserve balances where they're
currently at.
So, one of the things that we did want
to just throw out there is that uh we
could consider allocating a percentage
of assessment growth or increasing
annual budget transfers to cover growth
related needs and any potential uh DC or
CBC debt related collection shortfalls.
And so what we wanted to show here is
based on the model um new debt to
finance the town's portion of capital
growth over the next 10 years. Uh we're
forecasting about $67 million in taxf
funded debt. So that's the town funded
portion of growth. Uh and then an
additional $285 million in DC funded
debt. And so if you look at that chart
on the right hand side, you can see that
uh currently the all municipalities uh
the the debt limit is 25% of own source
revenues. That's the provincial limit.
The current policy states that we cannot
exceed 7.5% of our own source revenues
and that's the red line that you see
there. And as you can see by 2030 we are
exceeding that. So uh given the needs
that we have forecasted over the next 10
years uh one of the recommendations is
to increase the town's own debt limit
from 7.5% to 15% while restricting the
amount of tax supported debt to no more
than 5% which it stays below the 5%
amount over the 10 years.
uh and finally we'll look at the
strategic initiatives policy framework.
So the annual contribution for strategic
initiatives, what we are recommending is
that it should be greater than or equal
to the four-year average annual need.
And when we look at the model, that's
about $1.5 million per year. And uh one
of the reasons we're recommending this
is ensuring that strategic initiatives
needs are fully costed and fully funded
will improve the town's ability to
advance the priorities outlined in the
strategic plan. So, it does give some
flexibility to council and to town
staff. Uh, you know, if we don't need to
have as robust a strategic initiative or
strategic plan uh framework, um we could
potentially reallocate some of that
funding to growth or asset management uh
as needed.
Also, as part of this report, we are
recommending an amendment to the sale
and disposition of a land bylaw. So,
currently the bylaw states that all net
proceeds from the sale and disposition
of land shall be allocated to the CIP
development improvement reserve
and it can only fund capital projects
within the downtown CIP area.
So what we are recommending as part of
the FSP report is that uh it that bylaw
gets amended so that all future proceeds
from disposition of land can be
allocated to the strategic initiatives
reserve. Uh the reason that we are
recommending that is it will provide
greater flexibility
and options when deciding how uh funding
for uh different strategic initiatives
will be allocated.
I'm not going to go through uh these
last these couple slides in detail, but
really what we just wanted to show
council and the public is you know based
on the assumptions in the model uh this
is where the reserve balances would be
as of today versus at the end of the 10
years based on what we know
and I'll go through some of the key
takeaways. So I think it's it's already
been said but I think it's really
important to just mention that uh the
town is in a strong financial position.
We have a wellestablished uh policy
framework and we will continue to
actively monitor and manage the evolving
external revenues and investment
variability uh throughout the forecast.
Uh capital pressures do require
increased use of debt to fund growth
related assets. uh we're going to need
to increase our internal debt limits and
that is very comparable as Henson showed
in their presentation to what other
municipalities are doing. Uh debt ratios
need to be managed to make sure that
we're in a sound financial position uh
growth projects do need to be
prioritized. So I mean some of the road
projects and our our core assets, you
know, there's not a lot of flexibility
there, but yeah, maybe other areas uh we
need to think about uh what we're going
to spend our money on. Uh current
contributions to asset management
reserves are insufficient to meet the
renewal needs currently as approved by
council. So uh yeah, maintaining the
infrastructure levy is going to be very
important moving forward.
In terms of next steps, uh so the
updated uh sale and disposition of land
bylaw will be approved on the May 19th
council meeting. Um
so in in terms of the attachments to the
to the report, you'll see there's a lot
of adjustments to the policies and
everything. And so there is going to be
some dissolution of some of the reserves
that are currently active right now. And
so we will communicate that through the
2026
operating results and year-end reserve
allocation report which will come to
council in spring of 2027.
And council will receive periodic
reporting on the progress made towards
reaching FSB goals with a more wholesome
report in 2030 or earlier if warranted.
And yeah, with that, uh, thank you very
much, members of council, and, uh, we're
happy to answer any questions you may
have.
>> Thank you very much. Um, so I'm think
some of you may have questions for the
consultant, some of you may have
questions for staff. Just when you ask
your question, please let us know where
you're directing it. We'll start with
Council Crawford.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for your
presentation, both of you. Um, my
question, I believe, will be t will be
more to the consultant. um on your page
your presentation page eight uh you had
uh comparable mid-range asset management
contributions. So there's quite a jump
from Whippy Milton and Oak uh Oakville.
Can you tell me um what are those
municipalities specifically doing? Do
they have a a infrastructure levy?
>> Yep. Mr. Bill.
>> Uh, thanks counselor. That's a it's a
good question. I mean, I guess part of
it can be explained like there's they
they do have their contributions to
reserve built in. Um, when you look at
one like relative to the replacement
value, the one on the far right, it is
really dependent also on the valuation
of the infrastructure that's at least
public from the asset management plan.
So there is going to be variety in terms
of the municipalities just in the
comparables in that sense. So it's not
as much as we try to make it an apples
to apples comparison the valuation of
each municipality's infrastructure is
still and this graph is still subject to
that. Um and then the contributions per
capita um they do jump up and you get a
place like Oakville. Um you know just
the size of the municipality might be a
bit different. You know obviously the
economy scale the infrastructure that
they've got and their budget and what
they've worked into it. Um there are
some nuances that aren't always
reflected in a graph like this. And it
could be also the municipality's debt
levels and also where they are on their
asset life cycle venture whether their
assets are relatively new or if they're
a lot older. um one might need to be
contributing a lot more now um if
they've got bigger infrastructure
requirements in the near future. So
those are some of the particulars that
don't always reflect in this but you
know when you look at a from a
conceptual perspective that the town is
kind of in the mid-range does it seem to
suggest that they are you are doing your
part at least in kind of investing in
your infrastructure but obviously
there's continued way to go as we kind
of move forward and kind of keep that
pace going forward into the future. So,
not a fair comparator. In other words,
>> it
>> it's fair. There's just there's
differences within each municipality and
and and whether that's in Ajax or
Oakville or Milton, there's just there
obviously nuances within each community
that we have to be cognizant of.
>> So, uh I don't know if you can answer
this question or if uh I can't remember
his name, the other fellow there. Um,
how many uh municipalities in Durham
Region currently have an asset
management plan or sorry, not an acid um
the uh infrastructure levy.
>> Um so through the chair, I can't give
you an exact number off hand, but I do
know that there are um certainly a
number of them that do have it um
>> in Durham Region.
>> In Durham Region. Yeah. Yeah. and and
ones that have just recently introduced
them as well um in in Durham. Um I I
have to get back to on the specifics of
which communities have or don't have um
but I I do know that there are
communities obviously in Durham um that
do have an infrastructure in place.
>> Okay. Um
one other Okay, I'll uh I'll let
somebody else have a chance now.
>> Um just one moment. Uh, director Meekum
joined the conversation. Do you have
that answer regarding the number of DUR
municipalities that have um the fee?
>> I don't have the exact answer on me
right now, but I can definitely
circulate it. We did do an analysis. I
know there's um at least two two or
three um but I can circulate that.
>> Okay. Thank you. And thank you Crawford.
Next we have Mayor Collier. Mayor
Collier.
>> Thank you, Chair. Um, I'll just go
through my notes here and try and refer
to the right people. Just with the
casino revenues and the alexon, um, I
would prefer to not include those at
all. I think those are so precarious. I
don't expect we'll see anything from
Lexicon for probably close to a decade.
And the casino, I mean, who knows? That
could go next year for all I know. It
just seems to be constantly declining.
What would how much difference to the
plan would it make if we did not put
those in at all?
>> Screw the chair. I can take that
question. So, right now in the plan, I
think we have about 3.2 million in
casino um casino Ajax revenue. So, that
would be a reduction of 3.2 million.
Now, we've allocated the casino Ajax
revenue um split to growth and um
strategic initiative. So that does not
impact or or the plan is that that this
revenue will no longer impact the asset
management plan but will is is more um
uh indirect revenue that will that will
help bring forward either a strategic
initiative or the growth related uh plan
which can be funded by by debt uh in you
know in the absence of those revenues.
But we don't we no longer want to
propose relying on that revenue to fund
asset management.
>> Right. And and that's that's pretty much
what I'm saying. I mean, I was around
when the FB first came into effect, I
think 2007.
It's it's worked well for us, but
obviously we need to pivot and and
modify based on current. And I I don't
and don't get me wrong, I I hope the the
slots for revenues continue
indefinitely. But I just don't want
another um surprise like what happened
when we lost our alexicon dividends and
interest last year.
So, just thank you for that reassurance.
I want to talk about the investment
policy because we talk about this a
little bit and I see staff starting to
use some of the investments for this
year we used a little bit for
operational but um in the plan you're
talking about a a conservative 5%. I
think we know that our combined um
long-term and short-term rate of return
is just in the last three years
somewhere closer to 14%.
Um I I think and I've said this before
setting this at such a low amount fine
but if we're going to do that I think we
should have the 5% going in to the
growth and or the infrastructure and the
the strategic strategic initiatives or
wherever it's supposed to go and the
balance go into a separate reserve.
We're going to have some negative years.
We've been lucky so far, but we're going
to have some negative years. And I don't
want us to have to I I would prefer to
have sort of like a tax rate
stabilization fund with the extra than
have to suddenly go out and try and make
it up from taxes if we have a negative
year. Can you speak to that, please?
>> Yes. Through the chair to Mayor Collier.
Um we so the plan is to include uh a 5%
conservative estimate but we have the
discretion to allocate anything over and
above that uh through our year-end
allocation report. We could uh
potentially allocate that to a
stabilization reserve if that is the
desire of council or we can then uh top
up any other reserve at that point. Um
it is really uh the the point of not
including a higher return is that there
will be years that are positive and
there will be years as you said that
will be negative. So um we want to be
conservative. We want to utilize some of
that investment income but still have
that ability to to uh direct where that
surplus could go in any given year. So
what would be your thoughts if if I
directed or if council directed that
that anything above the 5% go to a
whatever you want to call it tax rate
stabilization or or investment um
surplus reserve and we put a cap to that
reserve of say three or five million and
anything above that at the end of the
day gets reallocated. What effect would
that have and would you be supportive of
something like that?
um through the chair, we could
definitely take a look uh at doing that.
We have um currently in our
stabilization reserve um a requirement
to fund uh or to to save a minimum of 5%
of of total um uh total own source
revenue that we collect in uh in a year
with a cap of 15%. We're always at the
lower end of that of that 5% mark. So
that could definitely be something we
take a look at and and we bump up that
reserve uh with that in mind and we can
build that into the policy. We can we
can take a look at that.
>> Okay. I I may give that uh bring that as
an amendment. Uh you've set the 5% or
sorry the debt maximum debt at 5%. What
is that in dollar value? Because we're
talking about having a linear 26 million
per year for the next 10-year capital
program.
the 5% I don't have
>> or so
>> I don't have the exact dollar value
because that's based on payments. Um so
the the 25% cap or the 5% limit that's
in our uh policy would be based on the
annual payment and the payment of course
varies depending on whether it's a 5year
10 year 15 20 year debenture. Um, so we
would have to take a look at
approximately what that means as far as
a debt limit, but um, I can definitely
get back to you on that. Um,
>> well, let me
>> I'll see if I can find it.
>> We're we're proposing through this new
revised FSP a $26 million a year linear
capital budget. And if we're capping our
debt to 5%, does that mean we could only
debenture 10 million of the 26 million
for instance?
I will get back to you on numbers, but
it would be a a certain percentage. And
now I I will have to caution that the um
the the debentures that were forecasted
in this presentation um were the
debentures primarily from our growth
related reserves. So funding our growth
assets. if we are going to continue to
continuously fund the um capital asset
uh uh projects whether it's building or
vehicles and equipment um that will use
up a little bit more of that room uh
quicker.
>> The only where I'm getting the 10
million from is when you talk about
doubling our debt ceiling from 7 and a
half to 15%. If you look at the chart it
looks like 15% is about 30 32 million.
So I just assume 5% was about 10
>> in annual debt payments. Yes.
>> Annual debt payments. Okay.
>> In annual debt payments. Yeah. So you're
you're correct. Well, it would be so the
the 5% yes would be around the 10
million 10 to 12 million in annual debt
payments.
>> Okay. And I'm and I'm not concerned
about incurring some debt. I I think
that's actually a good idea. We have our
deenture policy for vehicles with longer
lifespans of eight years and and
whichever else. We're going to have
17,000 new homes coming online over the
next 15 years or so. I think the taxes
from that are going to more than be able
to handle the the debt payments. So, I'm
not concerned about that. On the
recommendations, can you give me an
example of what you know quote more
stable source of revenue are? Are you
just referring to property taxes when
you talk about more stable
sources?
>> Okay. Okay. So through the chair uh when
we speak about that with respect to the
capital reserves that comment is more
about relying less on external revenue.
So the casino the alexicon revenues to
fund those ass those those needs that we
do have and um make those yes more
stable funding from the tax base rather
and and you know from a conservative
investment um allocation rather than
external revenues and subject to
fluctuations.
Okay. Uh I already talked about the
investment piece
um to the spending caps and I'm not a
big supporter of removing the spending
caps. I know you you know uh I wasn't
really supportive of increasing it to
the 90%.
Because that's what made sure under the
old FSP that our reserves grew each year
by that delta from what we put into the
spending cap. Um at the same time having
the new um sort of linear model doesn't
take in into account the investment
growth over the 5%. I I feel like they
contradict each other a little bit. Um
can you speak to that? Like I mean I
would prefer to still see a spending cap
in there a linear 26 million or 60%
whichever is less for instance.
So through the development of this of
the policies our our caps are based on
our reserve balances now right. So we
instead of um limiting ourselves to the
revenues coming into the reserves every
year the known revenues or anticipated
revenues um we have been conservative in
in putting investment income in there
which we previously did not include as
part of our capital planning. um it was
al always an after-the-act uh
contribution to reserves whereas now we
are um proactively putting that in where
we so that it's both taxpayer uh funding
as well as the investment um in the
investment um income funding our
capital. Yes, we will have to draw down
on our reserves uh over the first few
years until the uh infrastructure levy
catches up or if we have additional
investment revenues that we do
contribute to those reserves um that
will help balance out those um um the es
and flows over the years.
I'm not sure if that answers your
question, but
>> kind of well I I'm going to be meeting
I'm going to be meeting with you to
discuss the investment strategy as you
know at a later date anyway and part of
this works together. So we can talk
about those other things after. I want
to talk about the change of reserve from
the CIP for the sale of buildings to the
to the strategic initiatives which I
absolutely support. I just wonder how
much is in that CIBC reserve CIP reserve
right now.
um through the chair. I have that in
front of me. I think it's about uh 8
million, but let me just double check.
>> Okay. So,
>> yes, we do have about eight and a half
million.
>> Yeah. Significant amount. So, if we're
going forward under the new FSP going to
be putting any sale of of um capital
assets, I guess buildings into this new
strategic initiatives reserve. Why why
aren't we transferring the $8 million
balance is already in there as well? Is
that already allocated?
uh through the chair note the full
amount is not allocated. We can take a
look at the contributions that were made
to that reserve with respect
specifically to the CIP and we believe
those will have to stay in there. Um and
as part of our our reserve um review at
the end of 2026, we can take a look at
all the funding that was contributed and
the funding that is not was not
contributed specifically to the downtown
CIP. We can make a recommendation to see
if we can move that out. Okay, that
would be my recommendation because I
know we sold the uh pavilion last year
that went in there and I don't think
that that was meant to go towards CIP
projects since we wrapped up the CIPs.
So, I think that should go over as well.
And finally, I just want to talk a
little bit about assessment growth
because in the report on page 65, it
talks about um key finding number four
uh identified a funding gap and town
funded consideration should be given to
additional contributions to allocating a
percentage of annual assessment growth.
So what percentage are you considering?
I would consider well what what
percentage have used so far? Because I
would recommend use 1% and anything over
and above 1% would be going to asset.
So through the chair we haven't
identified any specific percentage. This
was a recommendation for council's
consideration as to whether some of the
assessment growth could be allocated
more towards the growth related uh um uh
reserves rather than asset management.
So asset management um contributions are
forecasted to be be to be um generated
through the infrastructure levy whereas
growth reserves do not currently have a
sustainable funding source that would um
match the needs that are required over
the next 10 years. So this was an
additional um a recommendation for
consideration and based on best
practices from uh other municipalities
that uh we've reviewed with HSN. Well, I
I agree with it. Um given the situation
we're in and knowing um the pressure on
our reserves, I think we need to make
some of these tough choices. Right now,
if I'm if I'm correct, we use the
assessment growth to reduce the tax
impact.
>> That is correct.
>> And I mean, that's a nice short-term
solution, but it's not going to help us
long term. So, I would suggest that that
does get implemented. And as I said,
make it if you want to use a percentage
to reduce the tax impact, that's fine.
But I suggest you cap it at say a 1% or
3/4 or percent and put anything above
and beyond into the asset management
would be my my suggestion or the asset
whatever you call it reserve.
Does that
>> sound that kind of what you're thinking
of?
>> It it it does sound very plausible. I
think that'll be up to the next uh mayor
or next council to identify um how much
from the budget uh will be directed to
the um uh to will be used from
assessment growth.
>> Okay. So, you don't think it's a good
idea to hardwire this into the FSP? You
want it to remain as a council decision
each year?
>> I I will take my direction from council
as a whole. So um if that is I don't
know if that's a a separate motion or um
how we go about that but I will I will
take the direction from okay from from
council.
>> Thank you uh for the presentation. Thank
you for answer my questions and thank
you for your leniency on the time chair.
>> My pleasure. Next we have um for the
first time councelor Henry.
>> Thank you chair. So I was just making
some notes here. some great questions
here um with regards to 6.1
um and the report references a 2% levy
I'm noticing. So I wanted to ask about
that because back in December
at our budget meeting I thought there
was a motion brought forward by regional
counselor Lee with regards to a
reduction
uh from a 2% infrastructure levy to 1%.
Is that the same infrastructure levy
we're referring to in this report
>> through the chair to councelor Henry?
Yes, it is. Um, we did when we updated
the 2026 FSP, we did uh reduce the 2026
capital infrastructure levy to the 1%
but through the review that was prepared
by Hemson and our subsequent review. A
2% uh capital infrastructure levy is
what is required to maintain uh our
asset uh our our reserve balances for
asset management up to the sustainable
levels they need to be at uh in order to
fund all of the required maintenance
work uh in the long term. So it is it is
still a need even though it was reduced
to 1% it is it it is a requirement um uh
in order to meet the established uh
levels of service and then start growing
our reserves after the the 10-year time
frame. So just to clarify um the motion
did go through as it was intended in
December. The levy has been dropped.
There's no few um uh policies updates or
anything needed to make that happen. It
has happened. Correct.
>> That is correct.
>> Yes.
>> But the information in slide eight and
um subsequent slides that I'm looking at
nine and so on refers to the 2%. So
we're stating that if we want to
maintain
uh what we have been we're going to need
to be at the 2% not the 1%.
Yes. Like how how is that affecting?
Yes,
>> that is correct that it is a new
recommendation through the review of
this uh the financial sustainability
plan that we maintain the 2%
infrastructure levy.
>> So where does that leave us now? Is
there a recommendation in this report to
put that back up to what it was because
it's just been taken down
>> through the chair. The uh infrastructure
levy has never been um entrenched in
policy. Uh it it is something that it we
know is required and is subject to
approval on an annual basis uh by the
mayor and council um at budget time. Um
you know this plan is is provided to
provide a guidance to council to make
those decisions. Um but nothing I mean
if you would like uh a 2% infrastructure
levy built into this plan we can
certainly include it uh directly in
policy. uh it has not been practiced in
the in the past uh but it is the
recommended course of action.
>> So does the report change if you use the
guise of a 1% levy like how much would
it have changed? How much difference
would we have seen here? Cuz the
information is based off 2%.
>> That is that is correct. So through the
chair on one of the um on one of the
slides uh that Kevin presented I'm just
trying to find a number here. Uh he did
go through the impacts on our asset
management reserves if we had a a 2% a
1% and a 0% infrastructure levy. Um if
we put in no levy he did mention we are
going down to reserve balances of zero
which is not sustainable. Um we do not
want to be at that stage. Um and and the
1% infrastructure levy brought us mid
mid uh mid-range. So our reserve
balances would decrease over time. Um
and again with reduced reserve balances
that means we have less money to invest.
Therefore there will be an increased
reliance on the tax base as well to fund
the asset management plan in the long
run
>> which means taxes go up.
>> Correct.
>> Sorry. Um councelor Henry uh you're
these are great questions. Uh, Director
Mat, where's that slide you're
referencing on the 1% 2%?
>> It was uh slide
>> slide nine in um
>> the town portion
>> in the town's uh presentation.
>> Okay, thank you. Uh just staff want to
put that up. Uh go ahead, councel. Thank
you.
>> Sorry. So you're saying that if we have
a 1% levy over time, we will have to
increase taxes.
>> Well, what will happen?
Yes,
>> I I I I am saying that it will we will
likely have to increase taxes in the
long run because we will have lower
reserve balances to invest, meaning
lower returns uh to help us offset uh
the the the uh tax rate or sorry the the
capital levy. Um, and our reserve
balances, as you see on that slide
there, would would go from
approximately, you know, close to $und00
million in the $90 million range, all
the way to just about $60 million. So,
um, and that's that's with the 1%
infrastructure levy. If we applied a a
2% infrastructure levy, um we we would
our balances would go down in the near
term as we deal with our asset
management needs, as we um uh address
the those higher risk capital projects.
But with the the 2% infrastructure levy
and the investment income that we earn
on our reserves, it would bring it back
up over time so that we can start saving
for future needs as well.
So, what year are we looking at that
we'd have to increase taxes in order in
order to um
replace the the 1% infrastructure levy
that would be lost in what year?
Well, I I would think it we would have
to take a look at that, but the 2%
infrastructure levy is is a levy as
well. Like it is we we can't avoid um
tax increases when it comes to dealing
with our asset management. um they are
assets we need to maintain and manage
and replace on a cyclical basis. Um so
if if
>> I understand that, but I guess I'm
trying to I'm trying to figure out which
is the which is you know the worst of
the two is we take away the 1% now and
what what does that look like for for a
tax increase? It's like at what year and
what percentage?
Is it better to keep the 1% now and then
we don't have a 3% increase later or do
we take away the 1% now and have an
additional 3%? Like what are we looking
at here? What's the percentage? Is it
apples to apples 1% to 1%. Give me some
guidance here please.
Um to councelor Henry I mean tax
increases
like I said to deal with asset
management. I can't give you numbers on
like the more you can do upfront um um
the better as you're as you you can
invest that those funds or spend them on
the needs that are in front of us. Um
deferring capital projects also cost us
money. So if we don't do the right
maintenance work at the right time um in
all likelihood that will end up costing
more from an from an asset replacement
uh in the future as well. So I think you
know the the the plan was put that was
put before council today uh puts forward
a sustainable um plan that we can build
upon. So to have that 2% infrastructure
levy every year is probably better than
doing nothing for a number of years and
then having to increase taxes by 7 8 9
10% in a year that we may really need
those funds. So I think um we're trying
to be um uh you know part of it is is to
have some sort of predictability and
sustainability long term and that's what
we're uh proposing.
>> Okay. So the these reports here today
are they for to receive for information
only?
>> No, they are for um for approval. Um and
the the reason we are um asking for your
approval is so that with the 2027 budget
can be built using this framework. Um
the reason we did not put any numbers in
the policies is that those are up to
council when budget comes before you in
20 in 2027. Um so that you can make
those decisions. that uh the guidance
that is provided by the this document is
really important so that those fiscal
decisions can be made um for the
taxpayers in the long run.
>> So if we accept this report as is now
does the infrastructure levy
automatically increase backed by the 1%
or is there a motion required to do so?
there is no impact on no immediate
impact on the infrastructure levy. What
we would um build into the budget would
be 2% and then if council were to um not
agree with that then that can be amended
um at a f at a future date and we would
work with um the mayor uh post election
to develop that as part of uh the
budget.
So right now if if nothing is done and
this council accepts a report as is 2026
goes with a 1% infrastructure levy and
you folks go away and plan for a 2%
infrastructure levy for the future
accepting this report as is. Correct.
>> That is correct. The budget for this
year has been adopted. So there's no
changes uh to that budget at all.
>> Okay.
>> All right. So there is the 1%
infrastructure levy that's been set by
council when the budget was adopted.
Okay. So, I'm going to leave my
questions here for now. Um, and, uh,
depending on the outcome of this
meeting, uh, yourself and I, I'd like to
schedule a follow-up meeting. Thank you
very much for all your answers.
>> Thank you. Um, for the first time,
Council Bower,
>> wait.
>> Thank you, uh, Deputy Mayor Lee. Uh,
good afternoon, everyone. Uh, thank you
for the presentations. some excellent
excellent information and thank you to
my colleagues for asking some really
great questions. Um so on the positive
side uh congratulations to the town for
coming creating this policy in 2013 that
because it seems to have um really
formed a strong foundation for us to
make decisions and also for the um
change to on the town staff report about
the fully funded budgets for current
year and the and the four um following
years of long range forecast. I love
that it will be fully funded. Um I think
that's a really positive um just even
it's an it's an assurance to see that we
can we can budget these things. So, I
just want to confirm um so all of this
data I know we're talking about reserve
funds, capital programs, debt financing.
This is all info that is based currently
on our existing um levels of service
throughout the town. Right.
So through the chair, yes, the asset
management uh plan is uh reflected in in
these studies based on what was approved
by council. Um I will note though that
the the framework for the FSP when with
respect to growth was built using 100%
of all the assets uh that are going to
be built in our DC background study.
Right? So council does have some
discretion as to the timing of those
projects. Um and as um or as Andrew and
Christopher alluded to,
you know, should growth not materialize
uh as quickly or if it goes faster,
there is some discretion in advancing
projects or moving them out. So yes, the
growth piece is is more based on, you
know, that long-term growth vision for
the town. Um but the the rest of it is
is based on approved levels of service
that council um uh made back in May of
of last year.
>> Thank you very much um acting director
meth. So then my question and I think
this is probably a crazy question but
I'm going to ask it anyway. Um was there
scenario testing done for you know the
level of service is something that
council does have control over.
Do these numbers um does it have huge
impact? Like I know if we were to look
at a reduction of service levels
>> are you speaking with respect to asset
management or other other types of
service levels like operating budget?
What what type of service?
>> Right. So for example, I know in recent
years there was and correct me if I'm
wrong. We looked at the condition of
road to set the service level of when
certain repair works were done. And I
think we actually made an adjustment and
it I I believe it was an adjustment
down.
So
is that something that would be a
realistic
uh and I'm just thinking from the
perspective of like these are huge
numbers we're talking about and huge
need for more revenues based on what we
are delivering now and we often hear
well you know it's either a choice of
raising taxes or lowering service. So,
I'm just curious um you know, is that
exercise something that would be a
logical or practical or even realistic
exercise to think about?
>> So, through the chair to councelor
Bower, uh my understanding is that
exercise has been done. When the asset
management plan was presented to
council, um operations staff, uh and uh
finance took a look at the the long-term
outlook of what asset management uh
activities were needed to replace our
roads and do the ongoing maintenance.
And if you recall at that time, we did
lower uh levels of service. So to to
bring some affordability
uh to the required activities that would
have to be done on our roads. I don't
believe and I can hand it over to
director Meredith uh if he wants to add
anything but I don't believe that um
staff would recommend uh further
reducing the the levels of service
because uh at that point you know we're
at a point where if we reduce them any
further the maintenance costs will go up
meaning our operating budget cost uh may
go up. um deferring assets uh the
replacement of assets any longer uh you
know will cost more than actually uh
reinvesting and maintaining our assets
at this point. Yes, thank you for that
answer. Yeah, I appreciate that answer
because
and I understand that answer because
although it sounds like maybe we could
do that kind of reduction um you know if
you don't if you don't take care of
things the it costs more in the in the
long term for rep reparation right so I
appreciate that answer no thank you for
that um if anyone if any other director
wanted to add to that director Meredith
I'm happy to listen to it but I'm I'm
satisfied with your answer Um, and the
other question was, sorry, go ahead. I
saw a screen flash up there. Was that
you, director? Um,
>> uh, that was me. Councelor Bar, please
keep going.
>> Okay. Thank you. And then the other
question about debt financing was to
increase the town's debt limit from up
to 15% from the current 7.5 with regular
review of debt levels, which of course
we know are needed. Is that so I just
wanted to understand how did we pick 15?
Is that an arbitrary number? is that
tested against something.
>> So through the chair to councelor Bower,
we did take a look at comparable
municipalities and uh 15% is a very
common and average uh debt limit that is
self-imposed uh across municipalities.
Some are higher, some are lower. Um and
we we definitely do not want to be at
the maximum 25%. Um we we do want to
keep keep debt reasonable and also keep
in mind uh the debt split between um you
know what is taxf funded versus what is
required to deal with our growth related
assets.
>> Okay, thank you very much. Um
let me I think I think all pretty much I
have all the other information that I
was looking for. Thank you very much. Uh
those are my questions. Uh Chair Lee,
>> thank you. uh for the second round.
Councelor Tyler Warner.
>> Thank you. Uh I think I'm good. My my
questions have been answered. Uh just
very quickly on the 2% infrastructure
levy. My question was going to be how
critical is that? Obviously uh director
metham it is very critical uh for this
possibly is the most critical for the
financial health of this whole system.
Would you agree with that statement?
>> Yes 100%.
>> Okay. Something we will have to remember
in the future. Thank you so much, chair,
for letting me back in for the second
time.
>> Thank you, Regent Crawford second time.
>> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm
just curious to the consultant, were you
aware that our infrastructure levy was
1%.
>> I may add to that. Um, sorry. the the
consultants um did their work uh based
on 2025 data and at the time there was
it was not 1% it was 2% at the time.
>> Okay. Okay. So this whole report was
done based on what they knew at the time
not what was done at the budget time
>> in 2025. So the report serious concerns
about this consultant. Uh okay thank
you. I appreciate you clearing that up.
Thank you so much everybody. Oh,
councelor Henry for a second time.
>> Hi, thank you. Um, knowing that knowing
that information that the consultant was
basing it off the 2% prior,
um, and without going into a whole thing
where we're causing, um, a huge cost
expense here, uh, what's the likelihood
of getting an updated report based off
the 1%
um through the chair to councelor Henry
staff um have modeled what it would be
like with the 1%. We will not be asking
our consultants to uh to update all of
their data with the 1%. Um their
engagement has pretty much come to a
close. Um but we have all the the the
model that was provided to us and we can
do that analysis in house.
>> Excellent. When can we as a council
expect to receive that updated
information?
through the chair. What what exactly are
you looking for as as to the impacts of
the 1% because we did show you the
impacts on that chart. Is there anything
more that you're looking for?
>> Well, I just asked about if it was if
the whole report was modeled after 1%
instead of two and you said you could do
that in house. So, I don't know what
further information you could do in
house. What does that look like? And
would
>> uh let me help you out here. uh because
that graph if I'm reading the director
graph correctly uh maps out uh the one
and 2% scenarios. So um there's no kind
of you can follow that forecasting uh
from that graph.
>> Thank you. So, is there any further I
guess what I'm trying to ask is had
there been a 1% basis to go off of,
would there been any additional
information that was not rep provided in
this report that staff could inhouse
give us?
Um, we could take a look back at that.
there would be additional a slight
additional information but I I we can
take that back and take a look at what
we can do and provide any additional
data that uh we feel was not included as
part of this report.
>> Thank you. And and do we need a motion
for that or is that something you can
just do and when could we look at
receiving that?
Um, I would prefer to do it through a
motion if possible and um, we could
probably look at that. Um, you know, uh,
we could try for June. If not, maybe
September.
>> So, can I bring that motion forward now
at this time, clerks?
>> Um, a motion is always in order, but
right now we're only at the
presentation. I haven't brought forth
the recommendations yet. So, council
Henry, now on that note, why don't we
put a hold for now and let me bring
forth the recommendation. So, we have
report number FIN-2026-11.
The recommendation is one, the council
received for information the financial
sustainability uh plan final report as
prepared by Hemson Consulting Limited
for the town of Ajax. Two, the following
updated policies included as AT-4
to AT- be approved um and list A through
E. Three, that the draft procedure for
sale of dis disposition of land bylaw
attached as AT-9 be brought forward to
the May 19, 2026 council meeting for
consideration. And four, that the
director of finance be authorized to
make administration changes to other
policies identified under 120 financial
stability plan to align with the goals
stated in this report. Let us start with
the mover. Can I get a move for this
please? Mayor Collier, do you want to
move this? Okay, I see collier moved. Um
now as part of this councelor Henry you
had an amendment first. Go ahead.
>> Yes. So the amendment would be to have
um what we just discussed further
information based any further
information that's missing from this
report based off um the 1% levy versus
the two. However that needs to be worded
by clerks.
Just give me a moment looking at clerks
to see if they've
one moment.
We're just typing it out. Are you going
to show it on screen? And it's coming on
screen for you all.
>> Senator required or no?
>> I'm gonna ask that you
Vicky, size that because I cannot see
it. Can you enlarge that, please?
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. Motion to amend moved by um
councelor Henry that the motion be
amended to add the following. The staff
be directed to provide council with
further information based on the 1%
instead of 2% levy. Is that okay for
wording? Councelor Henry.
>> Yes.
>> I I I think the director understands
what I'm looking for.
>> Did you want to give time on that? Uh
the director's asked for as late as
September. Are you okay with that time
frame?
>> I'd like to allow the director the the
time needed.
>> Okay. So by the September,
>> the appropriate standing committee in
September 2026
>> GTC.
>> Okay. Um, any questions, comments,
concerns from council? Um, Mayor
Collier, I'm gonna
Oh, uh, sorry, CEO Baker's joined. CEO
Baker, do you want to comment on this?
>> Um, through you, Mr. Chair. I I'm I'm
just confused as to what information
staff would be looking to bring forward
and I I want to make sure that
um acting director meth has she knows
what she's going to be trying to to
bring forward. I I because I I as you
have noted, Mr. Chair, the the graph is
there. You can see that there's a
difference between the 2% and the 1%.
It's projected out. I don't really know
what else we would be bringing forward.
And and and to be clear as we talked
about already
these the the FSP is a financial it's a
it's a principled report. So it's bas
these are recommendations from the
consultant from staff about what we
believe should be brought forward for
council's consideration regarding the
infrastructure levy in in the budget.
And at that time council can make the
council can ask questions then they can
ask for you know numbers then as to how
it would affect that year's budget all
that kind of stuff and make their
decision based on that year's budget.
But what this would simply do is it
would direct staff that the if if
approved that they're going to come
forward with a recommended 2% and then
council could debate it at that time.
But as far as this motion goes, I'm
really not clear as to what we're
expected to bring back.
Um, councelor Henry. Um, so you know I
mean it's always appropriate to amend
what information is there any kind of
specific information you are looking for
that the graph does not address because
again the consultant used the
information they mapped out a a one and
2% option and a zero I believe and so um
I guess staff is looking for that
clarification of what what more are we
looking for exactly? uh the consultants
had the information to to map it out. So
I think your concern is that they were
work they were not working off that
information. Am I phrasing that
correctly for you or no? Yes, they they
are not they were not working off the
correct information and thus although a
graph was provided, it could have
changed other things in the report and
uh staff has already indicated that they
are in the position to handle um any
adjustments that would have been needed
in the report with the information
given. So, I'm just asking to make sure
that we take a onceover on this and that
there's clarity on it. I don't think
that's too much to ask. I'm not putting
pressure on staff in any way to do it in
a in a you know I need this tomorrow
timeline. Sorry, director you have a
question. I see director's hand up.
>> Yes, through the chair. I do want to
>> go ahead.
>> Am I am I able to speak? Um through the
chair. Um I I do want to make a
correction that the consultant did have
the correct information when they did
the analysis. So, the the 2%
infrastructure levies that were approved
until 2025 um and the anticipated um uh
infrastructure levies going into the
future, that is an estimate that is is
is uh is provided and I would not say
that they had incorrect information. The
analysis is is sound and you won't see
much changing from those those base
numbers. Um it's you know an
infrastructure levy is approved on an
annual basis uh through the budgeting
process and council does have discretion
to increase or decrease those uh on an
annual basis at at this point. Um but
what
I'm confused the the question that uh
regional counselor Crawford asked were
they aware of this uh reduction in the
levy to 1%. I thought you said they were
not.
their modeling was based on 2025 data.
So when so yes, we did not
they they did not include a 1%
infrastructure levy going forward in
their modeling. Uh they had the 2%
infrastructure levy which is still what
is being recommended uh today in the
staff recommended plan after we made
that that change for the 2026 levy.
Yeah.
>> So, councelor Henry again um you again
this is I'm going to this is in in this
is a fine but I guess what staff is
trying to address is that all this
information you're asking for is there
any sort of update will not drastically
present you any new information that is
not in the current report.
So sorry when I asked a minute ago about
the um about having the consultant um
adjust the uh report accordingly knowing
of the 1% I was told that all the
information that the the staff uh sorry
that the consultant uh we weren't going
to retain them any further and this was
something that staff could do. That led
me to believe that there was information
that could or would have been changed
had they had that update. So is that not
the case? It's kind of been a mis uh
communication on our part of just like
uh understanding the question as asked.
I think right now the director's giving
you the most clear question. So um again
if you want we can put this to a vote if
you want but again what we're saying
right now in this meeting is you will
not get any substantially different
information than the report provided and
the graph provided which offered a two
one and 0% option.
>> Okay. So uh uh sorry director uh that is
correct
>> right?
>> That is correct.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. I just want clarification on that
before proceeding.
>> Then then required
>> then no motion is required. I just
wanted the way that it was worded did
not lead me to believe that conclusion.
>> Understood. And we're sorry for that
miscommunication. We're all on the same
page now. Thank you. Okay. Uh Mayor
Collier, you were on the list, I'm
assuming. Um Go ahead.
Thank you.
Last 10 minutes. I have sent to the
clerk.
>> Okay.
>> Um, yeah, we're hearing some feedback
from you, but I believe you said you
sent a motion to the clerk. Clerk, do we
have that
>> on Can we put that on the screen?
>> I don't think the feedback's from me.
I think it is but not to Jacuse. Um
okay. Um council can we all see the
amendment um provided by the mayor?
Obviously this move by himself
those just two through seven correct
>> two um I think I only sent two through
four but it's been um revised a little
bit by the clerk. Let me just read it
quickly.
>> Go ahead.
Okay, this is followup to the questions
that I posed to the treasurer
commissioner of finance and sorry
director of finance and um uh towards
the consultants report and the report in
the agenda um just and and this is
asking and and I was trying to get in
before councelor Henry's motion because
this also asks staff to put all this new
information in and come back to council.
with the revised numbers based on some
of these amendments. I'll just go
through the amendments quickly. First, I
talked about the investment reserve
being created. So, an investment reserve
be created and any realized investment
revenue in excess of 5% peranom, which
is what the report says they're going to
conservatively fix it at be allocated to
this reserve on an annual basis up to a
reserve balance of $5 million. Once the
target has been met, any further
revenues be allocated to the asset
management reserve going forward. The
the allocation and this is very similar
to our um tax rate stabilization or
whatever that's called now where we had
a cap where in years where there is
perhaps a negative growth or um a need
you can tap into that reserve but once
the balance is reached then then the
rest goes in. Uh number three, which
probably should be number two, that the
allocation of assessment growth used to
reduce the tax impact be capped at 75%
annually and the amount above that be
allocated to the asset management
reserve. As I talked with the treasur
about, we use those funds on an annual
basis to reduce the tax impact. Um
they're usually somewhere between half
percent and 1% lately. So I chose in the
middle 75. This will still maintain the
relief to the taxpayers as we've been
doing in the past by including
assessment growth. But once we do start
realizing some higher assessment growth,
that extra funding will go into the
asset management reserve. Uh four, which
should be three, that staff review the
proposal to eliminate the spending caps.
Um this really troubles me, removing
spending caps completely. Um, I would
propose a revised portion where we still
have a spending cap and I've used 70%
that's variable. I want the treasur to
go back and work with the numbers and
report back to council or the 23.5
million whichever is less going forward.
Um, I think this works to if we have
better growth from reserves going
forward the money is there. If not, then
we we go with the caps. Um that any
non-allocated balance of the CIP
reserve, which is where the sale of our
buildings goes, um there's 8 million in
there now. Whatever is not already
already allocated to CIPs be transferred
over to the strategic initiatives
reserve where the new money is going
anyway. And that staff report back to
council with the revised FSP and
associated policies based on these
changes. And this was added um that
draft updated procedure sale and
disposition of land bylaw attached be
brought forward to the June 22nd meeting
for consideration. I guess that's based
on some of these revisions. Thank you,
chair. I'm hoping to answer any
questions.
>> Um sorry, uh region Crawford, I'm going
to get to you just from a clarification
point of view to the mayor. Are you
removing the staff recommendation too
completely which has the updated
policies?
>> Uh that wasn't my intent. What my intent
through these amendments was to take
these changes and go back and revise
them in the policy and then come back to
council
>> and then come back to council. So um you
want in a sense just I need to clarify
for everyone. You want a sense for staff
to kind of go through this exercise
present it to council to see something
that's we we want to adopt. Is that
correct?
>> Well, we have we have recommendations in
the agenda today, chair, to basically
receive the report from the presentation
information and revise these policies. I
wasn't able to in the time to go through
each policy and excerpt where this
should go and make that sort of much
more in-depth amendment. So, I guess I'm
sending these to staff and let them put
them in where they need to go and then
come back. I don't know if that's
>> come back to us and allow council to
make that final decision.
>> Correct. Based on the new numbers and at
the same time if there was any
discrepancy with the 1% reduction this
year and the million dollars that maybe
did or did not get put in that would be
corrected at that time as well.
>> Okay. I just want to clarify warning.
Thank you very much. Uh on the amendment
we'll start with M. That's Crawford.
>> Uh thank you. Um that was actually what
I was going to ask. Um, Mayor Collier,
this is a really good motion and I like
I like what you're where you're going
with it. I was just wondering if it was
replacing what the staff's
recommendations are. So, thank you,
Chair Lee, for clearing that up.
Appreciate it.
>> Thank you, Councelor Bower.
>> Thank you. And, uh, thank you to Mayor
Collier for bringing these forward. I
support I just wanted to friendly
question uh, your cap on qu on item
number three. you I know you've sort of
arrived in the middle of 0.5 and one. Um
I would like to ask could it be capped
at 1%.
>> Well, councelor Bower I'm going to leave
that I mean I just chose an arbitrary
number. I think when this comes back
we'll be able to look at the numbers and
see what the actual be based on this and
then council can decide at that point
whether we wanted to to revise it. That
was my intent. I'm not saying it has to
be. I just picked a number in between
the half percent and the 1%. So, okay. I
mean, I I I think maybe it might be
better to do that when this comes back.
Just my thoughts.
>> Okay. Yep. Fair enough. Thank you,
>> Mayor Collier. Just one more question on
wording. Did you want this for the June
GDC meeting or is this for the September
GDC meeting?
>> I would prefer I think June um through
you to director Mattham. Is that
achievable to punch these in and come
back in June? Is that enough time?
>> It's through the chair. I believe it is
sufficient time. Yes.
>> Okay. So to the June then. Thank you
chair.
>> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Clerk has all
that language. Looking over clerk. It's
captured including the June date. That
is a nod from clerk. I see no more
questions from committee. Um okay. We
will go ahead and start that vote right
now.
Sorry.
Okay, that passes. Um, we have Mayor
Collier again and I guess on the main
motion as amended.
>> That's right. Just moving the main
motion as amended. Thank you, chair.
>> Thank you. Any questions, comments,
concerns on the main motion as amended
in this and since it's going to come
back to us next month. Looking at the
speaker list, there is none. So, we will
start the vote. Thank you.
Just waiting for regional counselor
dies.
Okay. Um, that passed. Oh, she did vote.
Okay, great. Sorry, we weren't sure if
regional council dies had voted.
Thank you everybody. That was exciting.
All right, we've now finished
presentation 6.16.2.
Um, we're now uh still in presentations.
We're at 6.3 OES-2026-10.
the ACC recreation master plan
renovation concept plan approval report
contract award for the detailed design
for the ACC recreation master plan
renovation. We have director Dave
Meredith to set the table.
>> Um thank you chair. Just just really
quickly I'm going to turn it over to
Jackson Christian to lead us through the
presentation. Um I don't have much to
say in terms of introductory comments so
I'll just turn it over to him. Awesome.
Good afternoon everyone. Thank you Dave.
Uh good afternoon Mayor Collier, members
of council and everyone present today.
Uh just before I begin I wanted to
update that Diamond Smith who's our
consultant lead architect working on
this project. We're having some
technical difficulty earlier and I just
want to check if they're able to log in
now before I share my screen. Um just
calling out for Marchin if he's able to
um able to access his audio controls.
>> So we're doing a test. Can you hear us?
>> Good afternoon. Yes, I can hear.
>> We can hear you. Go ahead.
>> Awesome. With that said, I'm going to go
ahead and and share my screen. Um and
let uh through chair if you can please
confirm if you're able to
view that.
>> Yes, we can see it right now. Yes.
>> Awesome.
So just before I hand it over to Martin
just a quick introduction. uh as we sit
today. So town along uh with Diamond and
Smith have been working in the
background developing the conceptual
plan for the ACC master plan renovation
project. Today we are here to review and
uh request formal approval for the
preferred concept plan and to move to
the detailed design phase of the
project. So those are the two
recommendations. Um and I'll hand it
over to Margin.
Well, thank you very much, Jackson, and
thank you for giving me the opportunity
to speak here today afternoon uh telev
uh uh the project was developed with the
town management group of the council
project from uh initiating ing the
project concept back in August of 2025.
Uh running through some of the
stakeholder engagements. Uh we will be
talking a little bit about existing
building conditions that prompted a lot
of the development or con development uh
investigations.
Uh we will share information on the
public information center that occurred
in December of 2026
2025. I'm ahead of schedule here. Um,
and uh, then lead you through the
proposed concept of the design that will
then uh, we're having some audio issues.
I'm not sure if you're using headphones
of some sort. Um, but it's very garbled.
>> On the left hand side of your screen
under audio settings, could you take a
look and uh, see what is selected as
your microphone there?
Do you have a microphone option there?
>> I just the speaker just has the regular
laptop speaker. Does that sound any
better?
>> No, we have
>> uh No. So, sorry. I'll ask the chair if
we can take a fivem minute recess and
we'll troubleshoot your audio and we'll
come right back.
>> Hey folks, let's say we do a fiveminute
recess and come back at 255. 8 minutes.
Thank you everyone.
Okay, council. We are going to get
started in 10
nine.
Still want the 3 2 1 countdown. Okay,
everyone. Welcome back to today's
meeting of the GDC uh May 11, 2026. We
are on um item 6.3 OES-226-10.
I believe the consultants worked out our
tech issues. Please go ahead. You have
10 minutes.
>> Good afternoon. Again, I apologize for
uh the earlier technical issues. Uh so
I'll just jump right back into the
agenda.
Uh we're going to be looking at the road
map today. Just quickly skimming over uh
where we've come from. uh talking about
the stakeholder engagement uh looking at
the existing condition of the building
and how the concept derived from that.
Uh we'll talk about the public
information center uh that occurred back
in December of 2025
and then we'll um go dive into the
proposed concept and the expansion that
was chosen.
Can you do me a favor? Try turning off
your camera or may perhaps it's an
internet connection not a microphone
issue
because you are still coming up a little
staticky. So we're going to try that.
>> Is my camera off?
>> Okay. And go ahead.
>> Okay. Perfect. Um so the road map for
the ACC uh began first with uh the
recreation master plan back in 2022 from
which the proposal came our into our um
possession back in 2025 Q2 and then from
there we went into the design concept
stage.
Next slide please. Uh we've uh over the
following months we have spoken to a
number of uh stakeholders. Uh these
include the accessibility committee
group, the seniors club uh group, uh
fitness and health and group, aquatic
club, boxing club, snack bar and
concession as well as YMCA and early
years childcare.
So looking into the existing building
conditions, skimming that over. Uh so
from the early days 1967, the first uh
inception of the community center with
its ice rink and community hall.
And now looking at uh current day
status. Uh so the ice rink still exists
uh in its current where that cursor is
located. Uh everything else around it
has changed including the context of
course.
The existing building uh has been a
renovation process uh and has gone
through over at least four major
renovation uh fields uh renovation
periods starting from 1967
into 1972. major renovation in 1991,
the addition of ice pad 3 and four uh
during the 1999 renovation.
Uh as it as it happens uh to be and
because of the multiple renovations, the
condition of the ground floor uh inside
the uh ACC is actually quite varied
throughout. So there isn't a stable sort
of one level. It's multiple levels that
are connected through the multiple
generations of renovations that have
happened. So there's a great variety
even in the ground floor of being at
zero all the way up to 1.4 where the
banquet hall is and down to minus.7
m uh which exists uh within the boxing
rink and squash courts.
uh that that is illustrated here in the
sort of uh three-dimensional graph
indicating the levels and its
connectivity. I think this would what
mainly this illustrates is the uh
accessibility and the communication at
least in terms of physical connectivity
between the spaces and between the
levels and how difficult the transitions
are.
We then reviewed the current and
existing program. So, we looked at uh
the banquet hall and the multi-purpose
areas. Uh a few of the large and medium
and small rooms. Uh current tenant areas
with the early years. Um rock climbing,
boxing, snack bar, and hockey team. Uh
we looked at the existing nudiatorum
areas. This is the 25 mm uh meter lane
pool. uh along with the salarium, the
current fitness center and squash courts
which are existing on the facility. Um
of course the administration offices,
camp offices and administration
facilities are housed within that
building and then there's the four ice
rinks.
uh in terms of the proposed uh program
additions uh coming out of the
discussions and the stakeholder
engagement
um as well as the prop uh proposal that
was issued to us is uh so first of all
in auditorium areas which is the pool
areas uh there's a requirement for a new
warm water therapy pool uh that will go
adjacent to the existing uh to the uh
lane pool that is going to be there with
addition of a small teaching um
multi-purpose room. With regards to the
tenant areas, a key component of that
was the enlarged food and snack area
which currently is undersized and um is
not working to its efficiency. Um,
next we looked at the fitness areas
where we looked at the double gymnasium,
uh, an indoor pickle ball court. That
was the addition require requested. Uh
space for stretching conditioning, a
brand new walking track, uh fitness
rooms that could be associated with the
fitness um program, and also increase
the size of the existing fitness area uh
to allow for uh accessibility type of
equipment as well as uh a full sort of
full allocation of space that is
required. And lastly, we looked at uh
the seniors group and area group areas.
Uh and what I mean by that is looking at
the uh current St. Andrews Community
Center and how that program might be
able to fit into the future ACC and be
housed under one roof uh by sharing all
of the amenities and sharing all of the
programs.
In terms of the public information
center, uh again occurred on December
16, 2025
uh along with the public survey that uh
was spearheaded in December and lasted
until January.
uh the uh large engagement that occurred
uh with uh over a thousand uh thousand
members uh joining uh participation from
uh and both in person as well as online.
Um I think the key thing to uh highlight
here is uh three concepts were provided
for review for the public information
center at that time and uh
overwhelmingly the west expansion
option. Concept one was preferred as the
one uh was preferred by uh by this both
the stakeholders the group as well as
the members that viewed it.
So I'm going to lead you into the
proposed concept at this uh point and
I'll start off with the master plan.
Uh so here just to contextualize uh
where we are. Uh so on the north upper
right hand corner we have the two ice uh
four ice rings which are sort of
identified in the gray boxes. Just below
that we have the ACC uh which takes into
account the current uh location of the
ACC plus the expansion that we envision.
Uh looking uh just south of that of
course we have the existing parking lot
and the tennis courts.
Based on the discussions that have
occurred to date, it was also realized
that uh the parking capacity at the ACC
uh both being utilized for the variety
of programs on site as well as the ACC
and potentially being uh taken over
partially by some hospital users is uh
an inadequate uh condition.
uh whereas
uh in order to supplement that
potentially we can look at a parking lot
to the west uh where it would be
expanded and it could create a a
connectivity from the east as well as
from the west in that sense into the
ACC. Uh the move that will allow for
that to occur as well and for the ACC to
expand to the west is to relocate the
current public tennis courts uh to be
adjacent to the the members tennis
courts rather than be north of them.
Next slide please.
Next slide.
Uh this is a rendering a very conceptual
rendering of early thoughts of sort of
entry point. This is a view from the
south. Uh viewing to the to the uh to
the north view from the southeast. Um
looking at the lobby. Uh the west
expansion again has a multi- uh story
lobby and a drop off area which is
located now to the south. Uh it has wide
interior circulation routes uh clear
connectivity and focus on accessibility.
uh the niatorum areas, the pool areas uh
will have an increased capacity of eight
lanes as per our stakeholder engagement
and the requirements of the programs uh
with of course the addition of the warm
water pool. In the gymnasium, we would
have the double gymnasium dedicated to
multisport and then uh the a third
gymnasium dedicated strictly to pickle
ball courts. Uh all in all the the
courts themselves can be transformed. So
we could have um sort of a scenario
where we have a setup of 12 pickle ball
courts if need be. Uh the existing
banquet hall will be relocated in order
to facilitate a greater con activity to
the site uh and uh its capacity to
fulfill um the program uses.
Uh just diving a little bit more in in
terms of where things are located. So
now we're looking at again uh ice pad 1
2 3 4 just to give you a sense of
relationship where we are on this just
south of that we will be then developing
a gymnasium that is centrally located.
Um west of the gymnasium we'll have the
nudiatorum with its uh two pools along
with its uh change rooms and then joined
by uh fitness. And on the east side we
will have the banquet hall uh senior uh
senior area, senior groups area as well
as early years connected to an outdoor
landscape uh uh portions.
Uh this would this is a uh concept view
of being inside the lobby on level one.
So we are looking east here towards uh
the banquet hall and in front of us we
have the gymnasium which is highlighted
by the sort of the orange wood glow.
Diving further into the plan um starting
off from the south. The concept here
really again stressing the connectivity
and accessibility is creating one multi-
uh one guiding principle where you
connect the existing ice paths on the
north with the new expansion to the
south. So really creating an internal LA
that uh connects uh we call it the
Galleria that connects the north and
south and through that is able to
connect all the programs from the east
to the west. So really one guiding sort
of organizing um spine that allows for
easier access and easier connectivity.
Again off of that spine going to the
east there's the two pools inside the
nuditorium.
um the change room uh both for both uh
public as well as
excuse me uh as well as the membership
group uh along with any monitor rooms
and and aquatic rooms that are required.
Uh fitness center is located centrally
next to the galleria. So visibility is
uh quite good from the from the central
spine
uh and so is the gymnasium. So looking
from the south, we have the two gymnasia
that house multisport with the last one
on the north being the pickle ball
courts. What we managed to also do is uh
keep two of the squash cords that we
currently have within the program.
locate those north of the uh pickle ball
courts. So that really the fitness area
is centrally located and here
highlighted in that light uh purple uh
color.
And then moving towards the east uh
they're now relocated banquet hall which
is uh down at the south corner uh has uh
good proximity to both uh parking drop
off and the outdoors. uh has its own
separate entry point, but is still
connected to the rest of the uh proposed
ACC program.
Just north of that would be the seniors
group area uh where we would have the
games room, the lounge, the main hall,
as well as any of the the spaces that
are required.
And then following that, it would be
early years again nestled into the
corner likely very similar to its
current condition except being connected
to the outdoors as well.
Uh this is a view down that central
galleria. So we're looking south here
towards uh reception. So on your left we
have the uh double story gymnasium. So
uh with a walking track up above uh and
then the playing surface on the ground
floor
of if you're looking down the corridor
from that view that's okay. But
basically looking at the fitness would
be on the right hand side along with a
development of the wall of fame as well.
Uh on the second floor uh we have uh the
building again is split along the
galleria into the two sort of zones. The
eastern zone uh has the current has the
boxing club which exists as part of the
current program. It would also house the
youth room, the fitness center, the
wellness studios, uh really being on top
of the spaces down below. So, close
proximity. Uh moving towards the east,
we have the walking track will which
will circle around the three gymnasia
components down below.
And then further off to the for the the
east we'll be having the administration
office uh the facilities offices along
with the larger multi-purpose rooms on
the south end connected again to the
outdoors.
And this is a view on the second floor
uh in the lobby. So, we're looking at
the walking truck just uh in front of us
and down down to the first floor of the
lobby and the banquet hall off in the
distance.
And that uh concludes my summary of the
presentation today. Thank you uh all for
allowing me to present this.
>> Um we'll start with C. Tyler Warren.
>> Thank you. Um this is everything. It's
exciting. It's scary. It's um
I have a question. So just to get my
bearings straight on your third last
slide where it has the map. Um just
confirming a few things for my
perspective and I understand that uh
this is not hardcore the last we'll hear
about this design. There'll be different
designs or tweaks to to everything
assuming this comes to all to fruition.
So my question is this. The four ice
pads
are not moving. Correct.
>> Correct.
>> Okay. Thank you. The south entrance
um if we go to that slide again and what
would be in the middle is currently
where the doors are for the HMS room. Is
that right? If I go to the middle of
that and everything to the left of that
would be a new built. Correct. Like
>> that's correct. Okay, now that's where
I'm doing good so far. And then the um
HMS room uh for the the bottom right
hand corner. Uh you're saying that it
will be the same size or even bigger as
the one we know now. If we want to there
probably be options to to close it off.
>> It will be the same size as what you
currently have. We've taken we have not
increased the program area or was not
requested at least to increase it.
>> Good to know. Um now again as I often
say very quickly um so the cost estim
estimates at this stage for the overall
which I know there's there's a lot more
to come but if there's shortfalls in
those cost estimates um how would we
deal with that? Is this going to be done
incrementally as per your report? Can
you speak to that a little bit how
that's going to work?
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
>> Um, I can actually take this one,
counselor Tyler Moran, sort of through
through the chair to to yourself. At
this point in time, we are at the
conceptual plan stage and obviously as
we move and hopefully receive
authorization to move into detailed
design, what that will allow us to do is
prepare a formal class C estimate which
you know as we go through the process
that's information that we would share
with council. Obviously, as we get costs
and we look to fund this, we're going to
need to come before council and it will
in all likelihood he in all likelihood
be early in 2027. Sort of we would want
to have the next term of council having
current numbers and dollars and
identifying this project within the
strategic plan over the next four years.
So what we will be doing is is we're
planning to make sure that the new
council will have the information to
make an informed decision as it relates
to their strategic priorities during the
next four years. So between now and sort
of December of this year, we're
obviously seeking author authorization
to advance the drawings to get into some
more details so we can get some more
accurate pricing while at the same time
it opens us up to apply for some grant
opportunities which obviously have a
huge impact in terms of the overall uh
financing of this project. So there's a
number of things at play. Um, as you
know, not all of this, this is sort of a
combined project where a large percent
of it is growth related and a
significant portion is asset management.
Right? So, you've got an existing pool
that's been there for over 60 years that
require or about 60 years that requires
replacement. A lot of the original
components um if we didn't proceed with
this project would result in capital
projects that we'd be looking to fund.
And I think if you remember when Mr.
Williamson did his asset management plan
um update to council at the previous
meeting at the time I believe it was
regional counselor Crawford there was a
sort of a $20 million value of critical
assets requiring replacement and she had
asked sort of what those were and we
said roughly 10 million of that was
attributed to ACC based on the life and
the age of the building. So this type of
project sort of it deals with some of
those asset management needs that we
have regardless. So I think there's a
number of things that come into play in
terms of asset management growth um
growth related infrastructure. Obviously
accessibility is first and foremost
given the challenges that we have in
this facility. Um and then potential
grant opportunities. So, it's it's a
multifaceted sort of financial package
that we would have to put together and
bring all of that information to
council.
>> Okay. And um would you say it's fair to
frame this financially when it's all
said and done, we snap our fingers, we
have this, the designs look great, that
it would cost a third or maybe half of a
tear down brand new from scratch uh
community center.
I wouldn't be able to give you a
percentage. We know we've monitored
what's going on in
other communities with respect to new
community centers. We understand the
costs of a new facility being,
you know, I'm going to say 175 to 200
some odd million dollars. So,
>> yes, sir. they they are they are
substantial in terms of what we're
seeing in the um in the municipal world
for a new community um center. So I
don't know what this would be as a
percentage of that but um I do think
there is a benefit to this approach and
second we we don't we don't have we
don't have land elsewhere to build from
scratch and this area is also in our
prime growth area within the downtown
area. So forecasting and building this
facility for the next 20 to 30 years.
>> Okay, appreciate that answer. I know put
you on the spot a little bit. And
finally, um the facade of the building,
uh especially on the east side where we
we're now is the main entrance where we
all walk in to go skating and that what
is is that going to be ripped down or is
that going to be sort of built within
the new uh structure or can you answer
that now? Just just wondering
>> um it'll the entire facade will have a a
refreshed look. I'll I'll let March
speak to that perhaps in a more
architectural detail.
>> Please just to repeat my question. Just
wondering if the facade overall will
stay.
>> The the fac the facade overall it's
going to need an overhaul in terms of
what it is. The the building was last
built in 1991. So the building code in
itself has been uh updated. So the
current facade and it's and and the
energy audit of the existing ACC uh is
is basically stating us that
we we're dealing with a facade that is
not compliant in today's codes. So
touching this facility we will need to
renovate and upgrade facads both from a
user comfort as well as environmental
stability uh point of view in
sustainability. you're going to stay as
they are uh at least in in for in where
they'll be. Okay. Uh that that question
was already answered. I'll leave it at
that chair. I'm sure everybody else has
more answers. I could ask another
hundred questions, but thank you. Thank
you for
>> Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Henry.
>> Thank you, Chair. Um thank you for the
plan. I was at the consultation in
December and it looked great. Uh lots of
uh great input and feedback during that
time period. I want to ask about the
parking lot. Um are we touching the
existing parking lot as far as lessening
the number of spots? Did you say yes or
no to that?
>> No. Um through the charity councelor
Henry, we would be actually looking to
increase the number of parking spaces
with the addition programming that we
would be bringing to this facility. We
are looking to basically retain what's
there, not reducing any spots in
particular to the south. There'd be some
reconfiguration to the drop off area
that you have along the existing main
entrance along the east side of the
building. So there may be a row that
gets replaced through that slight
expansion to the east. But the primary
area would be a new parking lot west of
the ice pad south of the existing fireh
hall where there's an existing soccer
field on Monarch. So that would
essentially be able to provide a few
hundred parking spaces that would be
able to support the increased
programming requirements for this site.
>> And to the just to clarify to the south
of where we're building that large
parking area almost attached to the
hospital, we're not taking away any
spots in there. We're just adding spots
to the west. Correct.
>> Correct.
>> Okay. That's all I wanted to ask. Uh
it's a great plan and uh fully support
it. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Regional Councelor Crawford.
>> Thank you. Uh thank you, Dave, for
remembering about that asset plan
because that is a very important piece
of that that our massive uh asset plan
management. This is 10 million of that
plan, right? That's what you said,
correct? Yeah, I'm I'm ballparking it,
but there's a number of capital projects
that are in the range of $10 million
that we'd be looking to do regardless
sort of over the next five plus years.
Yes.
>> I I mean I don't mean to be jumping
around on the agenda, please. And do you
mind if I take a little bit of latitude?
Uh Mr. Chair,
>> I what what did you want to reference?
>> Never mind. I'll wait till the I'll wait
till the report comes out. Um
>> thank you.
Uh
so the the number is six 60 million at
this point that we know of. Correct. Um
and we're hoping and anticipating that
we will be able to get some grants that
are going to help us with that project.
Correct.
>> Yeah. We're aware of some grant
opportunities that seem to be available
or have been announced in adjacent or
GTA municipalities that we would hope
this project would be would be eligible
for.
>> Okay. Um and okay, I think I'm going to
I'll hold to my uh to the other reports,
but thanks Dave. I appreciate it. The
the only other part that I I wanted to
add on to that is we've obviously added
the the seniors component to this site
based on the previous discussions with
respect to St. Andrews. So there has
been um some additional scope of work
that we've added to this um to this
project as well um over the past year.
So just wanted to to clarify and remind
council of of what we're doing and how
we've engaged the the older adults
community.
Would
you ask?
>> I'm sorry. One question. Like currently
right now this uh ACC is, you know, it's
rentable as far as hockey rinks and
those kinds of things, but we do
anticipate being able to generate some
revenue from the improvements that we're
going to be doing over time. Correct.
So, you're touching on an important
point because all we seem to talk about
are the capital dollars associated with
community centers and sort of what
they've been costing. And as I
mentioned, we hope to have relatively
good cost estimates to provide the new
term of council prior to them um
identifying and establishing their
priorities for that year. As part of
that, working with Chris Vita and his
team in recreation, there's also going
to have to be an operating business
model. So as part of that, it won't be
just the capital cost alone. It'll also
be a business case that'll look at the
facility upon buildout from from an
operating perspective. So you're quite
correct in terms of revenue
opportunities, sponsorship or licensing
opportunities. Um there's obviously
going to be some additional costs from
from a staffing and resourcing
perspective. So we think council needs
to see all of that information sort of
packaged together when making your
decision. So um so you're but you are
correct. There are there are we feel
substantial revenue opportunities as
part of this development
>> that we would never get in its current
state.
>> Correct.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you um councelor Bower for the
first time.
>> Uh thank you uh chair Lee. Thank you
very much for the presentation and uh
director Meredith I don't really have
any question. I love it. I love it.
Thank you for um the comments that
you've made so far about this is really
a plan that focuses on the growth and
the asset management. Those are very
important and especially when we look at
our ward um and the intensification
specifically in Ward 3 that's going to
happen and these folks are going to need
um updated um and plentiful amenity
space. Um and just the question that uh
regional counselor Crawford just asked
about revenue opportunities, you know,
if I just think offhand, we can now hold
basketball tournaments, hold pickle ball
tournaments, there'll be more rental
space for parties and and family events.
So, I think there's just some great
great opportunities here. And thank you
for including uh the wall of fame. And
uh that's all I'll say. Thank you very
much, Chair.
Thank you, councelor Bower. Uh,
councelor Henry for a second time.
>> Thank you. Sorry, I did have another
question about parking. Going back into
the parking since we're increasing
parking and we're talking about
increasing programming um available
space at this location. Uh, will that
include increased accessibility spots?
>> Yes, it will.
>> It will. And is that in the current
parking um uh structure where it is now
or in the new space?
>> We will look in all honesty we have to
and we've engaged as part of the design
process a a traffic consultant because
while we expand the parking we're going
to have to look at internal access and
traffic flow upon buildout of this
facility. So as part of that, we will
ensure that there will be more than
enough accessible parking spaces that
will be provided in proximity to the to
the main entrance doors. Until we get to
that site plan level of detail, I can't
be um specific in terms of locations,
but as part of everything relating to
this facility, accessibility is at the
front of our mind.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you. reach dies.
>> Hello. Can you hear me?
>> Yes, we can. Go ahead. Oh, Joanne, stop
hitting that button. Just hit it once
and
>> we can hear you now. Go ahead.
>> Thank you. So, for Mr. Meredith, I mean,
thank you for including the seniors in
this uh plan moving forward. And you
mentioned that in there going is going
to be a games room, a lounge, and a main
hall. And I'm just wondering if you've
had any, you know, preliminary
discussions with the seniors regarding
this move, potential move.
>> So through the chair to regional
counselor dies, yes, there have been
discussions with um the older adults
group. There's obviously going to at
this point in time the concept plan
really allocates the space. There's
going to be continued dialogue and
meetings with each of the stakeholders
from the aquatics club to the older
adults to our our fitness um staff in
terms of actual designing the space. So
by awarding this contract today, it
allows us to advance those discussions
with all of our stakeholders. So people
can start a lot of the detailed
questions that we're getting that over
the past 6 to 8 months we saying you
know it's somewhat preliminary. We're
just at a conceptual stage that they'll
have the opportunity to provide their
feedback. They will over the next six
months we will have a full communication
strategy and a stakeholder
um group that will that will meet and
they will now get more involved in what
they want to talk about which are the
specifics of of the space. So that that
will happen between now and the end of
the year.
>> Well, thank you for that. And I think
it's a a really great opportunity for
the seniors going into the Ajax
Community Center where with where it'll
open up many more opportunities,
you know, for recreation and other
things. Um, also it's so much easier for
them to get there via transit. So, thank
you very much for that. I'm I'm looking
forward to hearing what they say and and
what the discussion will will work out
at the end of the day. I think it'll be
positive. So, thank you.
>> Thank you, council. That exhausts all
the comments and questions. We're going
to move up the report. Report number
oes-2026-10.
Um recommendation is number one, council
endorse the preferred concept plan to
the Ajax community center master plan
renovation. Number two, council award
the contract for the detailed design of
the Ajax Community Center renovation
expansion to Diamond Schmidt Architects
in the amount of 2,861,160
inclusive vault taxes. Any questions,
comments, concerns regarding the
recommendation and report.
Seeing none, we're going to start the
vote.
Sorry. Thank you. Councelor Bower is
going to move this. Thank you, Councelor
Bower. Sorry, we're going to reset it,
everyone.
Yeah, it passed. It's fine. It's fine.
Okay, we're good. Never mind. Everyone
voted. It's moved by Council Bower. I
forgot to get it over. Clerks were
modering to me. Um, all right. Uh,
council, just give you a bit of a spot
check. We still have one more
presentation and then we still have the
entire consent agenda because everything
was pulled. Uh, I only mentioned this
because I'm going to be a bit less
lenient on going over our prescribed
times. So, we're on PBS-2026-14
stormwater master plan update. I'll
leave it to director Romani 217.
>> Uh thank you chair Lee. Uh I'll just
going to turn it over to Stephen Ready
uh manager of development engineering to
introduce the consultant and the storm
water master plan update.
>> Thank you. Uh good afternoon mayor and
members of council. My name is Steve
Ruddy, manager of development
engineering. I'm happy to be here today
to present council with an update on the
town's ongoing storm water master plan.
I am joined today remotely by our
consultant, Aquafer Beach Limited. They
are an industry leader in storm water
management and low impact development.
In fact, several of the team members we
have working with us on the master plan
were also involved in the original rain
gardens design and construction down at
the waterfront off Lake Driveway, uh
which of course have been very
successful. So, we're excited to be
working with them again. Uh this project
is bit of a macro extension of that rain
garden project in that we're looking at
storm water strategies for the entire
town. So with that I will turn it over
to our team uh Chris and Megan at
Aquafruit Beach to walk us through a
quick update of the plan after which I
will be happy to answer any questions
you may have.
Um,
Megan, hit your request to speak. That's
the middle button with the head, three
lines. Okay. And now, don't touch it
again. It's all yours. Go ahead.
>> Great. Thank you, Stephen. I will share
my screen. My name is Megan Dustin. I am
a senior water resource engineer for
Aquafer Beach Limited as Stephen
mentioned. And
share my screen.
window.
This one
it still says waiting for sharing
source. I'll just give it a minute.
Okay, I'll try again.
Change screen.
>> There we go. We got it now.
>> Oh,
>> I was impatient. Okay, great. cancel.
All right.
Uh so as Stephen said, I'm going to give
an overview of the ongoing storm water
management master plan.
Uh we'll start with the need for this
study, some key background information,
uh some of the current findings again
ongoing and some of the future
recommendations that you can expect down
the road.
So the master plan is being completed
following the municipal class
environment assessment. Uh we're
following approach two which means that
schedule B projects can proceed to
detailed design following completion of
the master plan. The project started in
spring 2024 with a characterization of
the current current condition. We're
currently in stage two which will be
developing the preferred alternatives
for the town consisting of different
projects and programs. Once this stage
is complete, we'll move on to the
implementation plan which is stage three
which will be developed to include the
actual implementation of all the
recommendations from the master plan u
over the next 10 years.
So this p this project focuses on storm
water which is water originating from
rainfall and other precipitation events.
uh when it runs off buildings, roadways,
and other surfaces, it can bring
pollutants to storm sewers, which
ultimately outlet to water courses or
directly into natural areas, which can
harm wildlife, reduce aesthetic value,
and can also cause flooding.
Storm water requirements in Ontario
started in the early 80s with flood
control uh and then quality control
became more of a thing in the '90s. Ajax
was incorporated in 1955. So again,
building before even then. Uh and this
is before storm water management
requirements. So there are areas of Ajax
with no storm water treatment at all.
Which brings us to this master plan
again.
Uh the system in Ajax includes catch
basins, sewer pipes, ditches and
treatment facilities including dry
ponds, wet ponds, wetlands, lone pack
development like the rain gardens along
the waterfront that Steven mentioned and
oil and grit separators.
So, storm ponds um can be dry or wet and
they collect and store storm water to
reduce flooding and erosion by limiting
the release of water to nearby creeks
and rivers and allow for settling of
pollutants.
Uh low impact development or LIDS mimic
natural water cycles by encouraging
infiltration or providing filtration and
then reducing runoff. And finally, oil
and grit separators are underground
devices that are attached to the storm
sewer uh that provide mechanical
treatment to remove pollutants such as
sediment and oil and grease.
Um as you all know, Ajax is growing
which will increase the demand on the
existing infrastructure. There's also
new provincial legislation requirements
that need to be reflected in town
policies. Uh climate change projections
show increased precipitation events
which will also increase the demand on
the existing infrastructure and then
there are historic flooding in issues in
parts of Ajax that will be accounted for
in this in this plan.
As of 2022, the town has a consolidated
linear infrastructure environmental
compliance approval document uh for
storm water management. This is from the
Ministry of Environment, Conservation
and Parks. And part of this document,
appendix A, includes all of the uh storm
water management criteria requirements
that are applicable for development and
redevelopment projects. So these include
water balance, water quality, erosion
control, water quantity, flood control,
and uh erosion and sediment control.
LIDs are an approach to storm water
management that use natural features to
absorb, filter, and slow runoff um at
the source. And L features aim to reduce
storm water contributions to the
municipal storm sewer. And these are
particularly relevant because as I just
talked about the CLICA, there's a
requirement within that document to
provide quality control for the 90th
percentile storm event for retrofit
scenarios. And LIS are designed and
widely accepted across Ontario to
provide this control for the 90th
percentile event. And the town has some,
but they're also easy to incorporate
throughout the town.
So some examples include we have a
perforated pipe on the top left which is
a long infiltration trench that conveys
and infiltrates runoff. Uh biosphil on
the top right temporally stores and
treats runoff by passing it through an
engineered media within the biosphil
itself and takes advantage of the
chemical, biological and physical
properties of plants, microbes and soils
to remove pollutants from the runoff.
Similar to a bioail, a bio retention
bumpout is a vegetated curb extension
that includes that engineered media that
also temporarily stores treats and
infiltrates runoff. Um, and that can be
used in conjunction with traffic caling
measures. So, there's different aspects
for all of these LEDs.
And finally, a permeable pavement layby
allows water to drain through the
pavement and into the ground. So it
reduces overland runoff caused by
imperous surfaces such as parking lots,
driveways, laneways, etc. Uh and it also
reduces the risk of flooding where it's
applied.
Within the master plan, we're looking at
many different measures. Uh some of
which include end of pipe measures. So
facilities that are at the end of the
storm sewer system such as wetlands, dry
p dry dry ponds, wet ponds that reduce
erosion, improve water quality and
reduce flooding. Uh conveyance
infrastructure and controls which move
storm water away from the source. So
examples would include a traditional
curbon gutter system but also bioil like
we just looked at, a grass channel or a
subsurface perforated pipe system. Again
like the slide previously,
uh stream restoration can look at stream
erosion issues or just bank
stabilization and natural channel
designs. And then we have source control
measures which help water soak into the
ground again at the location that may
include rain gardens like the ones at
the waterfront, permeable pavement and
so
uh the town has a current storm water
fee based on a study done in 2021.
We'll evaluate it based on the costs of
the projects and programs uh to be
implemented in the next 10 years that
have been identified in the study as
well as the life cycle costs of those
projects and programs. um funding
alternatives will also be assessed and
this fees needed to implement all these
projects and programs but also to
continue inspecting and maintaining the
infrastructure that already exists in
Ajax including the 50 town ponds, the 30
OS units, the six rain gardens and other
drainage related issues like complaints,
erosion and sediment control. Um and
again just all the inspections that are
required with that.
So some of the potential solutions that
um that we're looking at include source
controls for empty town owned areas
where there's little to no quality
control being provided currently. Um
conveyance will be recommended in the
right of way for all capital road
construction and reconstruction
projects. And this is done to reduce
costs but also to align with the CLICA.
So, we'll increase quality control with
all of those projects that are already
being planned as part of the capital
plan.
Um, 62.3%
of the town urban area doesn't have any
form of water quality or quantity
control. So, we've also identified some
new end of pipe facilities for five
areas that will improve that water
quality, bringing the area without
control down to 57.6.
Uh so this map shows the blue, green,
yellow and red are or not red, yellow
and orange are different types of
existing facilities within the town. Um
and then our light pink shows the five
proposed locations for new end of pipe
facilities. Uh the left has an example
of what a site we worked on in Missaga
looked like before there was an endpipe
facility and then the bottom is the the
after picture.
So some of the future outcomes of the
master plan will be to update the
engineering criteria and guidelines the
town has to align with our findings to
apply recommendations to leverage
potential potential synergies with other
town initiatives. uh to continue
integrating source and conveyance
control practices into road projects uh
including construction and
reconstruction and to develop a public
outreach and education program regarding
storm water management.
So again, we are currently in stage two,
which means we're working through an
assessment of the town's infrastructure
and future condition to develop a
preferred strategy. um all of which will
be presented to the public at a second
public openhouse.
Uh and then that leads us to stage three
where we'll develop the implementation
plan and finalize the master plan
and that is the
thank you so much for your presentation
and you kept it within 10 minutes. You
are an allstar. First question goes to
reg Crawford.
>> Thank you Mr. Chair. Um, will the
capital the 10-year capital plan uh
confirm that the current storm water fee
is sufficient? Do you see I mean we've
been doing this now for has it been
three years
going into four
>> uh
through the share to councelor Crawford?
Yes, that's correct. So we'll be looking
at the entire uh budget and the 10-year
forecast and you know many of the same
principles that have been discussed
already regarding funding capital
projects will be applied ex in the exact
same way to the the storm water projects
in that we'll be making sure they're all
fully funded uh for the for the
forecast. So
>> So sorry uh we also have the consultant
I think you might want to chime in on
that question as well. Uh, one moment.
Chris, go ahead.
>> Uh, Chris, you you're requested to
speak.
>> Okay, we'll just leave you here for now.
Uh, sorry, Rach. Keep going.
>> Okay. Um, are any of the storm water
um I mean I consider them to be assets
assets, right? Storm water assets. Are
they included in the acid management
plan at all?
>> Absolutely.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, that was all part of
that. Okay. Cool. Um,
so you know water water storm water
ponds better than anyone I know of. Uh,
you must have already identified your
priorities in what needs to get done.
Correct. In the like 50 ponds. I can't
believe it. In my neighborhood, we don't
have a single one, but
>> uh through the share again. Yes,
absolutely. So, initially when
developing the the budget and forecast,
you know, years ahead of this master
plan and even the recently completed
condition analysis that we that we did
in 2025,
uh, you know, just from when some of the
facilities were constructed, we knew
which ones were most likely to be full.
And we confirm that with baometric
surveys, which is just a they go out in
a little boat and they they survey how
deep the sediment is in it. And then uh
you can do the math to see the volume
and then from that you can form a budget
and and uh you know work on the project
of of rehabilitating that stormwater
pond. So we had a pretty good idea
already of what storm water ponds needed
to be cleaned out and it was really easy
at the beginning because the answer was
essentially almost all of them. So um
we've been able to you know kind of move
our way through uh our first few pond
cleanouts. There's one going on right
now on off Rosland Road as part of the
Nottingham subdivision. And uh with the
recent uh surveys that we had on on all
of the wet ponds that we have, uh we've
reorganized the forecast to
more um
more better address the the ponds that
are in highest need.
So, of the 50 ponds that uh were in that
were identified in the report, are those
only ponds that the town now has
responsibility for? Um, are there does
that include ponds that we don't have
yet? Assume we haven't assumed.
>> Correct. There's about 62 or 63 ponds
and about a dozen of those are private
or unassumed. So, they're they're either
owned by, you know, for instance, the
the Costco pond or the Chapter's Pond.
Um, Amazon has a pond, H&M has a pond.
They're all privately owned, so the town
doesn't have to go in and really take
responsibility for those. U, but the the
other 50 we do own and we are
responsible for maintaining them,
>> right? And so the the ponds that are
currently in in that are are currently
in development right now that we haven't
assumed, not private ones, but ones we
haven't assumed. Does the developer have
a responsibility to clean them up before
we take over? Like we don't get a bad
pond and then have to clean it up.
>> That's correct. Uh we make sure that we
get a baometric survey uh ahead of
assumption, well ahead of assumption.
and we um have their engineers certify
that it's within uh specifications of
the original design. And then we review
the survey as well to make sure that
it's, you know, in line as as much as
reasonable with the uh with the original
approved design.
>> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
>> Thank you, Council Tyler Moore.
Questions to the presentation?
Thank you, chair, for letting me in. A
very quick question to you, Mr. Ruddy.
The storm water fee that was initiated
about three years ago now, four years
ago. Um it was earmarked on our uh
annual taxes as a onetime fee, but we
were able to bring in um places of
worship, other places that weren't um
necessarily contributing and have huge
multi- uh areas of non-permeable
services uh surfaces I should say and
they now contribute.
So I believe what I just said is is is
sort of right. So would you consider it
a success that we did this and there's
now a more realistic funding model for
the cleanup and maintenance of storm
water pods?
>> Uh through the chair. Yes, absolutely.
Um, previously there was there was no
dedicated funding stream for uh funding
storm water management and and with the
um implementation of the stormwater fee,
we we can now you know with confidence
forecast out 10 years uh knowing that
that funding will be there. Yeah, I was
very happy to see it as a somewhat of a
break or a fairness to residents that
were already paying it and others in the
community that uh as I said, ironically,
have these massive, you know,
non-permeable services uh to contribute
uh to the funding. Okay. Thank you. I
just wanted to get that on record. Thank
you so much.
>> Thank you, Councelor Henry.
>> Thank you. Uh thank you for your
presentation. What qualifies um for
storm water to move up on your list?
What type of things would make you rejig
your list and say, "Hey, I need to move
this pond up to be clean." Now,
>> uh through the chair to councelor Henry,
uh the the primary driver is volume of
sediment relative to the permanent pool
volume. And so if you think of the pond
as having two portions, the portion
above the water that fills up when it
rains and and drains slowly, and then
the portion below water, which is where
all the the gunk and the dirt and the
grit and the sediment fall out of the
water and and end up on the ground. And
over time that fills up and fills up and
fills up and it it hits um kind of a
subjective tipping point to to
essentially not be in compliance with
our our provincial CLI ECA which allows
us to own maintain and operate these
facilities. So at some point the water
is so full of pardon me sediment that
the pond isn't doing its water quality
job anymore. So, for instance, if we're
looking at actual numbers, we might have
a pond that's say 30% full of sediment,
which is plenty enough to warrant uh a
cleanout or a rehabilitation of that
facility. Whereas, a a facility that is
more new might only be five or six or 7%
full of sediment. And by doing the
condition assessments every so many
years, which is what we've um laid out
in the forecast right now, we'll be able
to develop trend lines that show how
fast each facility is filling up. And
we'll be able to forecast, you know,
much more accurate cleanout dates uh to
to help guide the the spending of the
storm water fee.
And does um the sediment buildup does
that cause any type of odor or offging?
Like if I have residents in a particular
area saying there's a a particularly
pungent odor arising from a storm water
pond, is is that an indication?
>> Uh generally no. Uh mostly what they're
if residents are are smelling things
from a pond, it's probably all the
biological aspects of what comes with a
pond. So all the plants that are living
and dying in it, all the frogs that live
and die in the facility as well. All of
that, it just it really smells like an
ecosystem. And it it a lot of residents
might say it smells like sewage, but
like sewage isn't going into it. It's we
find that a lot of the complaints are
they just smell like outdoor ponds and
they're not really
full of sediment, per se.
Got it. Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Seeing no other questions,
we're going to move the report up. We
have report number PBS-20226-14,
storm water master plan update.
Recommendation is council received for
information. I see moved by council
Tyler Morren. Any more questions,
comments, concerns regarding the report?
Seeing none, we're going to start the
vote.
And that passes. Thank you everyone.
We're now going to shoot right back to
the top of the agenda and do the consent
agenda. All items have been pulled. So
we will start with pardon me for one
moment. Item 4.1 PSA-20226-8A
lean impact report. This is uh pulled by
councelor Regional Crawford. Councelor
Crawford. Region councelor Crawford.
>> Thank you Mr. here. Um, thank you for
this report. Um, I'm just uh curious uh
the the primary objectives of lean are
to reduce effects and reduce costs. But
in the report it says the primary
objective in adopting lean is not to
solely focus on achieving automatic
efficiencies or immediate cost savings.
That seems counter to what mean is. Am I
right or am I wrong?
>> Through the chair to regional counselor
uh Crawford um it's it's it's
counterintuitive in terms of like that
is our like if you say it like um like
that immediately. However, we're talking
about a long-term plan here for the
return on investment, right? So um it's
like we have to develop that skill set
across the organization. And so our
immediate goal today isn't for those
large massive wins. It's to develop
people who can continuously identify
waste and improve processes and prevent
issues as they grow. So without lean
thinking, like without getting everyone
trained, improvements depend on a few
people and we're less likely to see
those efficiencies. So we want to take
the time to make sure that prop people
are properly trained, they have the
skill set. So in the long run, this is
part of their day-to-day. And then we
are seeing that long-term return on
investment which would which would see
those efficiencies and and um
improvement in waste.
>> Okay. Because it sounds like from
today's report we're going to need to
use a lot of lean processes to get some
efficiencies. Um the senior management
team who's how much time was spent like
by senior management team and who is on
the lean team
from senior management?
So um
senior management was trained just like
the regular workforce was trained in
yellow belt. So there's two days of
training associated with that. The lean
team itself is made up of
representatives that wanted to be part
of um organizational corporate reviews
like larger projects. Um there isn't a
set defined team per se. it's only um as
required and as on a volunteer basis. As
for directors, it would only be if um it
impacted a specific department and they
wanted to be part of that. Some can step
away. They don't need to be part of it
if they don't want to. Um I know that
the CEO is our champion, so he often um
checks in and wants to be involved and
understand how these projects are going
to progress.
>> Um okay. So, who is uh who's currently
is there like there has to be like a
lead person that kind of coordinates
this? Is that correct? I know nothing
about lean. I'm just from what I've been
reading over the last little while. So,
is there one person who's in charge of
this project?
>> Yes, there is. There's one person in
charge of this process. It's part of
their overall duties, the position
itself. There's other pieces to their
position as well. And they do rely on
like they're the facilitator, the lead,
the coordinator, but they do rely on the
subject matter experts within the
departments and and how they're going to
go about doing this particular review uh
of a project and um yeah. So go ahead.
Sorry.
>> Okay. Um my next question is for CEO
Baker actually. Is he online?
>> Sure.
>> Yes, he is.
Hey,
so this was brought to council uh to
replace the ISS iso designation,
correct?
>> Mhm. Mhm.
>> Um are you trained in lean?
>> Yes. Yellow boat. working
>> and and how have you been using it
day-to-day for the I don't know in
improving the processes for the CEO's
office?
>> Well, all of staff that have been
trained in it uh range from senior
management now down through managers and
and it's been open to all of our staff
actually who want to receive the
training. So, all staff are encouraged
to use lean principles when looking at
all of their processes. And so I I often
hear from like recently we had an update
in SMT about the different processes
that were going on and and uh different
senior managers also me talk about
processes that have changed within their
departments and uh actually I was just
reading a report on uh facility booking
and different lean um improvements in
that process as well. So so they're it's
all through the organization.
>> Okay. Um, and have you has this so far
met your expectations as to what you
were hoping for from Lee?
>> I I'm hoping Well, first of all, I was
very uh happy and impressed with how
many staff actually wanted to receive
the training. Uh, we made it we made it
clear that uh we become a better
organization uh with more people who
take the training and and the
corporation pays for the training. So,
uh people saw that as an advantage for
themselves and the organization. So I
was very very happy and impressed with
that as well as the senior management
team as well. Um but we're still in the
early stages. We're still uh we're we're
now moving towards green belt training
which is a little bit higher more int uh
intense training uh which we hope our
our uh uh our lean team will have in the
future. and uh and then they will be
able to go to different departments and
each department head the idea is that
each department head will identify a
process that they want review and the
lean team will come in and do that
review and the the idea of lean is that
you don't just have people that are
involved in the process itself right now
actually it's better to have people that
aren't and then they ask all kinds of
questions to try and understand you know
what the objective of the process is and
then they can come up with ideas well
have you ever thought of doing this have
you ever thought of doing that because
they're not involved olved in it every
day. So that's that's where we want to
get to and we're moving to that training
I believe this year. Christie would know
better than I but I think we're moving
to the green belt training this year
which is more limited.
Um I'm curious so as we have retirements
come through the organization is there
an opportunity then through lean to
actually look at positions to say you
know are there are there areas that
perhaps a position was you know doing
certain processes that really don't make
any sense to be able to lean down that
position itself is that is that like I
would never want to look at reducing
staff, but I mean if people are retiring
anyway, do we look at instead of
immediately replacing them, but looking
at the job itself and trying to um
establish, you know, different processes
instead of hiring again. Though every
time we somebody leaves the organization
whether it be through retirement or
decide to leave or whatever the reason
is we always look at our organizational
structure and determine whether or not
we can do that that if that job is still
required if pieces of that job if all of
the pieces are still required
and if it's in the right place the right
department all of those things are
examined uh every time somebody leaves
the leaves the organization.
>> Great. Thank you. Um, I noticed in here
it said that that lean there was a
streamlining of the AMP system in bylaw.
Christy, I don't know. Can you walk me
through what that streamlining looked
like and how that how lean streamlined
it?
>> Um, so I did unless and Cooper is there.
There she is. I was just going to
recommend that uh I needed someone from
bylaw but I didn't have them here. So,
okay.
>> Thank you. Uh I can comment on that just
at a high level. I think it primarily
relates to um the how cumbersome it was
to prepare for POA charges and for going
to court in the POA system. Obviously
the court system is quite cumbersome and
slow where now that we have the AMP
system here the hearings and the whole
sort of like documentation preparation
that goes into that is a lot leaner than
what you would find within a court
system. I think that's the main driver
for the time and cost savings here. Was
that done before lean or after lean?
>> Uh well lean has sort of been ongoing
for a couple years. It was in the midst
of lean. It certainly the imple
implementation of that would have been
after I took lean training but I was one
of the early ones to get training but I
think many of these things are happening
in parallel.
>> Okay. Um so do we have any planned
milestones for the lean imple
implementation over the next you know
one to three years? like are there like
I heard today's report. I could see many
opportunities for lean to be applied in
some of these areas and I'm just
wondering if there's if there if you
have any milestones that you're looking
at.
>> Um so um currently um we are developing
a program that allows for more um
information on who is undertaking what
on a daily basis and how they're used
utilizing that. So that's through the
lean tool piece that that need we need
to get that set up. So we are uh
measuring how we're doing on a
day-to-day basis. From there um on an
annual basis we identify those corporate
projects that need to be undertaken. Um
last year the big one was facility
booking. That is going to be um
something that we continually do on an
annual basis and we want to get better
at that and bigger at that. So we'll
have more and more projects hopefully as
as CEO Baker mentioned they could be
happening um uh um ongoing together in
different departments at the same time
and those will be um as part of any
annual report that we do as part of the
budget process in the efficiency report
that that we do provide council. So all
of those projects will be outlined and
we'll get better at quantifying um the
improvements as we go forward. there is
the additional training that we're
providing as well that will beef up um
that lean thinking and the ability to
dig deeper into some of the areas that
require um more and more um examination.
However, I would just like we would
encourage any staff member um Council
Crawford, if there's if there's an area
that you would like us to look at and
use the lean process on, I would
encourage you to identify those to CEO
Baker and perhaps we can find some
capacity to review those. I I mean, you
mentioned the reports today. If there's
anything that jumps out at you, I would
encourage you to uh speak to CEO Baker
on those.
>> Great. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
>> Thank you. We have councelor Tyler Moore
next.
>> Thank you chair. Um to staff to Christie
sorry to director Mclardy. Um where do
you think we are with this? Do you think
it's uh infiltrated love the program? I
mean everything about it improved
servicing you know less cost where are
we into the into the system about 20% in
30% in with lots more work to go.
>> Um I think the as CEO Baker has
mentioned like the pickup on this has
been amazing. the um uh people feel like
they belong. They want to be part of the
solution. They want to find those
efficiencies. Uh they want to have these
discussions with not only their
department but uh cross-dep
departmentally as well. The motivation
has been there. You can see it in the
pickup of the training. Um a lot of
people are curious about it. Um they
want everyone wants to improve the way
they do their work and if they have easy
ways of doing that, they're going to
apply it. And this is something from,
you know, CA CEO Baker down is
everyone's been encouraged to
participate and to begin thinking about
um how they can improve their day-to-day
um operations. And I think that the more
and more we utilize it and we celebrate
and recognize those achievements, which
we're slowly doing in in 2005, I think,
was like the first real year that we've
been able to at least um bring to light
some of those achievements in a way um
that you see in this report today, but
also in the the budget. We want to go
further with that as well in this
particular report. You see the way that
Barry celebrates it. We're not there
yet, but I mean they are communicating
some of their achievements right out to
the public uh through their um tool that
they have. So, um if I look at where we
are compared to like the 20 other 21
other municipalities that are currently
utilizing lean, I think that we're like
in like the mid to higher level of the
pack in in the conversations that we've
had in terms of where we are. I think
people saw um how difficult and
cumbersome uh lean was and that that
recommendation to go sorry ISO was um
and that decision to move to lean um
people um like I've said are very
motivated by it and think it's something
that they can just apply. So they're
encouraged.
>> Thank you. Thank you for that answer and
for the work that's being done.
Thank you, Councelor Henry.
>> Thank you. Uh when looking at the
report, I'm noticing on page 13, um
we've got a high volume of folks trained
from operations, corporate services,
planning and develop in a lean program.
But in the CEO's office, I'm only
noticing two folks. Is that am I reading
that right?
>> Yes, you are. Because there's only two
in the CEO's office. Um there's uh the
CEO and uh and his administrative
assistant.
>> Is that not an opportunity that's
offered to all of the staff the CEO
campus?
>> Yes, there's only two
>> council. Sorry, councelor Henry. We have
to differentiate. I think you're mixing
up PSA with office of the CEO. Office of
the CEO I think what the director is
saying is only two people.
>> I understand what you're saying. I got
you. I got what you're saying. Oh,
strategic public affairs. Okay, that's
on me. Thank you. That is totally on me.
Thank you for that.
>> Thank you.
>> That's it. That was my question. Thank
you.
>> Uh thank you, uh, Chair Lee. Thank you
for this report, Director Mclardy. Very
interesting and positive results for
sure. It's uh it's great. I'm pro I'm a
pro trainer. So I think the train more
trainer the more training the better and
it really creates the it motivates staff
and it gets the buy in of staff to to
make improvements across the board. So
my question is the process of a review
when an item or process is chosen to be
reviewed by a lean team.
Is this uh something that is done during
office hours as part of someone's job or
is this extra work requiring overtime or
like how long what is an actual review
process look like?
We encourage um uh employees that have
been trained to undertake their own um
undertake their own process reviews um
and incorporate it into their their
daily um work lives. So I mean between
office hours um and to look at it um if
uh if it's moved to some sort of
corporate level like through the SMT
process where we're identifying the
larger scale reviews um that would be um
a conversation that would be needed to
be made as part of that team. For
instance, um if a review needed to be
reviewed outside of hours in terms of on
a weekend on on how a process went or in
an evening and and people wanted to be
part of that, I know that the
corporation would compensate them
accordingly or there's flex time. It all
depends on what's required. But if they
have volunteered to be part of this team
and they've been selected to to work on
this particular project, um a terms of
reference is always outlined in terms of
what's required from them and and you
know in this case if you're talking
about compensation that's outside of
their hours, they would be definitely uh
compensated for their time and their
effort.
>> Thank you. And can you just talk just a
little bit more about this lean
calculator that's seem that's the next
big project. Tell us about it please.
It's it's at its infasy. Um so it's
something that um our IT department is
uh has been lined up and I I think our
one of our second meetings is happening
tomorrow. So it's really really fresh.
But the idea is that um people across
the organization can submit when they
are working on something because it's
hard for us to even know when that's
happening. And we want people to be uh
proactive in letting us know that they
are working on it, letting us know what
their expectations are of their program
uh project are, what they're
expectating,
what they expect out of it, their
outcomes. Um and then we want to be able
to evaluate that. So we want to see at
the end um so you'd always have like
your current state and your you know
your that finalized state what does what
does that look like your future state
and are you achieving what you wanted to
achieve and then we'll be able to
quantify uh how well they met um um the
objectives that they had they had set
out and we'd be able to quantify it
better back to council in terms of
efficiencies found you know savings
found hours saved those type of things
>> right Okay. Okay. No, that's great. It's
it sounds very proactive and very
empowering. So, I think that's that's
wonderful. Um, thank you so much for
this information. That was it for me,
chair. Thank you.
>> Thank you. The recommendation from staff
is to receive this information. Can I
get a mover, please? Show of hand is
fine. I see councelor Bower. Thank you.
Any questions, comments, concerns?
Seeing none, start the vote. Thank you.
And that passes. We're now item 4.2
PSA-2026-09
housing accelerator fund update. This
was pulled by C region councelor
Crawford and uh councelor Henry. Region
councelor Crawford.
Do you want to select to speak? Thank
you.
>> Okay. Yeah. This is uh one of the
questions I had.
Uh okay. Um under the Pickering Village
Municipal Complex, a large amount of
money was put towards this $4 million uh
were used in this section. Um and I was
just wondering, can you give me a
breakdown of the cost per I'm apologize.
I probably should have sent this to out
ahead of you out ahead to you. Um, but
if you can give me a rough idea of the
breakdown of that $4 million.
I think your mic is off.
There we go. Is that better?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks.
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh, so through the
chair to regional counselor Crawford. So
in uh the report it indicates that $1.4
4 million has been spent on the
Pickering Village project to date. Um
that encompasses uh all of the work
that's gone into the site so far. So we
have retained a um consultant uh to
support the town through the public
private partnership uh process. So
that's everything from providing us a
background report on how uh best to
engage. Um it has uh involved some
procurement uh guidance on uh public
private partnership which is of course a
new uh initiative to the town. Um it
includes uh the uh eventual and and it
will include the eventual uh legal
support uh that is required uh as we
kind of go down this road. The um funds
have also been used to um provide some
of the preliminary work that's required
for the project site itself um including
things like surveys, geotechnical
studies um and other uh sort of work
related specifically to that site. Um
there are some funds that will be
committed to kind of the future state as
we go further into uh the engagement
with the preferred development partner
once one is selected. Um but at this
time uh the bulk of the costs are and
and to clarify the costs that are
included here are a mix of they're what
has been committed. Um they're not
necessarily what has been spent. Uh so
that's a kind of a summary of the work
that's been completed to date, but we do
anticipate that given the scope and
scale of the project um that is uh
that's what we have uh committed to and
council approvals so far.
>> And do you think that um more money will
be committed to that? I mean it's a
housing project, right? So, uh, it's
perfectly within the lines of the of the
half funding. So, do you, uh, anticipate
maybe that we would be able to do more
to help that project along
>> through the chair right now? Uh, what
staff have committed, uh, to this
project is sufficient at this time. uh
for the project in its current form
where what the project will become once
a preferred development partner is
selected and uh the development partner
has kind of come to the table with staff
and there's been a discussion about um
you know what uh town elements are
required as part of the project or um
what the community center would look
like what the actual town owned portions
of this development would be. Once that
um full process is is outlined um and
agreed upon by staff, a presentation
will be made to council that has a whole
uh a holistic uh presentation of the
business case um to for council's
consideration of what the town's uh
responsibility would be and then through
that process would recommend some
funding sources which may include half
they may include um other related funds
including um some items that are
currently in the town's DC background
study. We have a number of funding
sources uh that would be uh considered
and recommended um as we as we embark on
the project.
>> Great. Thank you very much. Thank you,
Mr. Chair.
>> Thank you, Councelor Henry.
>> Thank you. Um I just wanted to touch
base. I'm going through my notes here.
I'm reading something about staffing in
this report. Is that correct?
a number associated with staff.
>> Yes. So through the chair to uh
councelor Henry. Yes. The the final
number I think in the financial
implications section is approximately uh
$764,000.
Um so this has been staffing that has
been um is has been currently used for
the life of the housing accelerator fund
and is projected to continue until the
end of the sort of engagement that the
town has on the how um on the half
funding until the end of 2027. So this
as noted in the report is is three
positions and these positions are in
mostly in the planning department. Um
but also um so including a sorry
including a uh planner that has been
retained for a 5-year contract. Uh
there's another planner that's retained
for a shorter contract. Um and these are
for initiative specific engagement. So
these include things like the official
plan um and other um other elements uh
of the sort of broader housing
portfolio. Um that's what that funding
is for. So it's not just a one year um
it's up to five years.
>> Was there also a communications person
that was staffed for this or is this all
in the planning? Like are you saying
that the three staff members all work
out of the planning department?
No, through the chair. One of the
positions uh is in public and strategic
affairs and that is a communications
coordinator position. So, uh that
position did a lot of work to get the um
accessory dwelling unit program up and
running. Um and the next step from there
is uh that this individual will uh turn
their mind more to uh housing and um the
general kind of advocacy work and all of
the communications work required to
communicate effectively the town's um
initiatives and uh programs related to
housing.
>> So this is not a staff member that we
already had on board. This is a staff
member we had to bring in for this role.
So through the chair of the temporary
communications coordinator position was
um established with the onset of the uh
housing and funded by the housing
accelerator fund. That position will
continue through until the end of the
housing accelerator fund engagement
which is the end of December 2027.
>> And then what happens at that time? That
position is no longer there.
>> So that position Yeah. At right now that
position is to be funded by the housing
accelerator fund. Um any extension of
that position would be subject to um our
internal processes related to uh
staffing which may include a a business
case to council or um other kind of uh
whatever processes required to extend
contract staff.
And and just to clarify, um a month or
so ago, council was asked about another
position within the within our office.
Um and we said no to that position for I
think it was naming rights, something
with naming rights. This is not the same
position. This is not the same person
>> through the chair. No, that is not the
same person. So what was proposed was a
um it it wasn't even proposed. It was
included in a in a consultants report
that recommended that the town could um
retain a full-time contract person for
two years to uh proceed with the
project. At that time, council did not
indicate um that that was something uh
that they wanted to look at at that
moment. Uh so that position has not been
further contended by staff at this time.
Um, this position was approved by
council at the outset or the funding for
this temporary contract position was
approved by council at the outset of the
housing accelerator fund uh grant
program.
>> Okay, thank you. I think that's all my
questions. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Councelor Tyler Morren.
>> Thank you. Um, the unit targets um are
we under construction? Do you have a as
per the report do can you give me a very
brief uh percentages how many are up and
running right now and how many are
coming as far as the it's 3613 I think
>> just
through the chair to council Tyler Moore
and this is likely um more of a question
for director Romanowski but I do um what
is included in the report uh indicates
that we've kind of done an overall um
snapshot of housing uh and what we'd
like to accomplish. So um the town has
uh agreed with CHC to uh commence 3600
approximately 3600 units as part of this
program. Um as a result of kind of the
current landscape of housing uh we are
not uh close to 3600 at this time. Um,
however, there is as as mentioned, you
know, on multiple occasions is the
market uh the market dictates when h
when and how housing is built. And so,
this report really outlines all of the
pieces that the town and staff are are
pushing to advance housing uh in spite
of the market conditions. And that
includes everything from the seven
initiatives approved through HAF um as
well as some partnerships that staff are
um facilitating and seeking out as well
as the mayoral directives um and other
elements that council has um council has
kind of supported through that process.
So, it's really a snapshot to
demonstrate that, you know, while the
actual number of completed units, and
I'd defer to Director Romanowski for
those numbers. Um, it really has been an
ef consistent ongoing effort to in spite
of market conditions, try and facilitate
as many units as possible. Um, but at
the end of the day, the town has uh in a
bit of a precarious situation because we
do not physically ourselves as the town
of Ajax build housing.
>> Absolutely. But just really quickly, as
I often say, the maybe to director
Romanowski, the four that I know that
are building now in the town of Ajax,
there's Pat Belly Square and Salem and
Bailey, there's um 310 Kings Road West,
there's the um Rosen Road at Oddly.
Those are four that, you know, off the
top of my head I can think of. Are they
associated with this 3600 unit target or
is that something else?
I'd have to uh through the chair to
councelor Tyler Mo. I don't have the
exact numbers right off the top of my
head. I'm just looking through kinds of
the housing reports that uh Sean McCulla
issues to me, but I can definitely
follow up with you. Um
>> yeah,
>> following this to kind of give you the
breakdown, identify that we we have our
reporting and stuff that we could we
could share that information with you.
>> Yeah, that'd be great. I'd like to know
that. Thank you very much, Chair.
>> Thank you. And Dr. Dr. Ron, why don't
you copy all of council on that because
I'm sure we'll all want to see those
numbers if that's okay. Thank you. So,
the recommendation is to uh receive
information. I believe I jumped ahead.
Yes, it is. Can I get a mover through
hand wave? I see councelor region
councelor dies. Thank you. Any
questions, comments, concerns? Seeing
none, we'll start the vote.
And that passes.
Thank you everyone. We're now item
PSA-20226-10,
the winter warming town hall. This was
pulled by councelor Henry. Councelor
Henry.
>> Thank you uh through the chair.
Uh I just want to ask a question. So, we
know that uh we were the only
municipality
um that stepped up and offered their
facility, their actual um headquarters,
town hall facility uh for the winter
warming center across the region. So, my
question would be, and I know this is a
regional file, but what's being put in
place to prevent um to accommodate
uh for next year? because we know like
this was a band-aid emergency solution
that our staff uh did very well with and
thank you to everyone involved. But uh
moving forward, this is not the answer
to the problem
um for folks being out on the street and
we need other solutions for next winter.
So is there something being talked
about, a round table, something being
put in place?
>> Uh thank you through the chair to
councelor Henry. Um
right now those conversations as you
mentioned are the region's
responsibilities. Staff have you know as
a debrief from the warming center this
year um shared very clearly with the
region of Durham that our expectation is
that we be at the table to facilitate um
a more suitable solution for winter
warming um sort of in Ajax to support
this project next year. Typically those
conversations kind of start over the
summer months as it has in several past
years. Um but one component of this that
I think is worth noting is that uh the
region has uh sort of struck a a working
group of of staff um and at different
agencies uh including both the region
and the town obviously but also DRPS
Lage Health um uh Germ community health
center as well as um the CFOC
themselves. um at which point we are
discussing what um what kind of the
future state uh currently looks like
related to homelessness uh and h and uh
winter warming in the downtown area. So
out of those conversations we do expect
that um there will be some direction but
at the end of the day um this will
require the region to identify suitable
space. Um in other municipalities places
like Pickering use the Peace Lutheran
Church. Um downtown Ashawa has the
backdoor mission and other locations. Um
but I do think that finding a suitable
location, the town is there to be a
partner with the region. The town is
there to uh make connections as we did
uh last winter as well. Um but
ultimately the decision on where winter
warming is operated lies with the
region.
>> Yes. Um so you know not to be a bad host
but you know that that was not ideal as
we all know and we did our best. Um,
but
yeah, you know what? I'm just going to
leave it at that. I I'm I'm glad to hear
that the conversations are coming in the
in the summertime. And uh so when you
say the conversations, um does that mean
that our Ajax staff will be at the table
even though it's a regional issue? We
we'll be there, right? Like to have this
voice
>> through the chair to council Henry. Yes.
Consistently. Um I would you know go so
far as to say that in the absence of
advocacy from town staff um particularly
um in uh across our across the
organization in the absence of that um I
do think that this the the severity of
the issue uh and the impacts that we've
seen uh in the downtown area would not
be um brought to the forefront in the
way that they have been um both from
town staff and from members of regional
council and local council alike. Um this
is an issue that you know we continue to
advocate on uh in in an area that is not
our primary core responsibility. Um and
so um the town and and our team's role
is really just facilitating that
coordination um and making sure that all
the affected parties are actually
together. Um we you know in a lot of
cases we're offering to host the
meetings. Um we're offering to say hey
instead of a team's meeting why don't we
all get together in the same room why
don't we host it at one of our community
centers or a town hall. um hey can we
get this meeting together? It it's an
ongoing uh effort that uh the town takes
and um it's it's one of those pieces
where we you know uh it's incremental
gains. It's it's um furthering the the
needle on a very very complex uh issue.
So we uh we do try to remain as a part
of the table um to to see what we can do
to um be a part of the solution.
I would go as far as to say, "Hey, why
don't we have the meeting at the Ajax
Library Rotary Room?" That would be a
great place for them to see everything
going on. I want to thank our entire
staff in um I call it the CEO's office,
uh PSA, for all your hard work on this
file and and for trying to move the
needle. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Luigi. Go Crawford.
>> Uh thank you, Mr. Chair. I am very proud
of this project. I'm sorry this that we
saved livesund
was it almost 2,000 people had access to
a warm space in an extremely wind really
really uh cold winter long winter. Um, I
I sincerely want to thank CEO Baker, um,
Christy Cass for moving this in a very
short period of time. And I also want to
again thank and recognize Daniel for the
cleanup that he had to do at the end of
every or at the beginning of every day.
So, I know that this was a lot of work
and I'm uh I know that it was um it was
not it didn't it didn't go without its
lumps for sure, but um but we did save
lives. We kept them warm. They had a
chance to have a good sleep in a cot,
which makes an incredible difference.
People that have houses and beds don't
realize how important it is to be in a
cot and having a good sleep. uh it it it
improves their mental state and uh and
so for you know I know I'm just proud of
our town for stepping up and um I did
have a question uh the $9,000 that it
did cost the town are we uh are we
confident that that will be reimbursed
is there something that we need to push
at the region
>> uh through the chair regional counselor
Crawford no staff are confident that it
will be reimbursed um there were
conversations at the outset that the
region would cover um all costs related
to this. Um, and a memorandum of
understanding was signed between staff
as well. So, uh, we're very confident
that the funds will be received. We're
just waiting for, um, all the final
invoices and accounting to, uh, to
finalize before we send off the bill.
>> And I and I do want to, you know, I want
to give Cass a shout out. I think
probably every single morning we text.
It's been a new thing that we do. And,
uh, and I want to thank you for uh,
staying. This is a a file that never
gets closed. It's a new day every single
day and there's always something else
that we're we seemingly have to deal
with. So, I do appreciate um your
availability and uh and taking on this
that is never ending. So, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
>> Thank you. The staff recommendation is
to receive for information. Show of
hand. Can I get a mover, please? I see
region councilor dies. Thank you. Any
questions, comments, concerns,
additional? Seeing none, we'll start the
vote.
And that passes, I'm sure. We are now on
to item FIN-20226-10,
the 2025 annual investment report. This
was pulled by, excuse me, uh, region
councelor Crawford. Region councor
Crawford.
>> Thank you. Um my question the first
question is is how does this um
allocation compare to other pure
municipalities or best practices
>> for the chair to councelor regional
counselor Crawford um I have not had the
opportunity to go through the other
municipalities investments uh reports
and how we compare. So if that is
something that um you would like us to
to to do and report back on we we would
take direction. Um but I um I have not
been able to compare that at this point.
>> That's fair. That's fair. Um and o since
over half the cash is tied up in
restricted funds, what portion is truly
discionary or available to the town?
So at this time of the $139 million
about 66 million is being held um uh in
in town reserves uh that are not uh
development charges and and uh parkland
and so on. uh approximately 13 million
of that 66 is committed to existing
capital projects and the balance of the
funding is really being held you know as
working capital uh to pay our our
invoices um with the fluctuations of the
the tax collections as well as it it's
held in reserves uh such as our
stabilization reserve and uh Matt tax
reserve and so on. So those are those
are funds that we don't want to put at
risk because there is an immediate need
for that.
>> Right. Perfect. Um, so the investment
income did drop. I mean, we've done very
very well. I'm, you know, not not not
questioning that at all. But it did drop
from 2024 to 2025. Um, what were what
were the was what were the key drivers
on that?
>> So largely uh through the chair um
largely the differences were the Bank of
Canada uh cutting their overnight rates
aggressively from the beginning of 2024
to 2025. Um, if you recall back in 2024,
we were investing in GIC's earning 4 and
a.5 to 6%. Uh, that is no longer the
case and uh we're we're we're investing
our short-term cash in high interest
savings accounts, you know, earning
approximately 3% just uh shy of 3%. But
that is largely the the difference
between the income uh change from 24 to
25.
>> Okay. Okay. Um uh what percentage of our
reserves currently are in are in uh
investments
>> are in investments um from the total
town reserve. So excluding the dis the
non-discretionary reserve uh we have
about 62% uh of our total reserves um in
included in investments and that
includes all of our reserves capital tax
rate stabilization and so on.
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.
Thank you Mr. Chair. happy to move it.
Uh if there's no other questions,
>> recommendation is um annual investment
report for the period January 1st to
December 31st, 2025 be received for
information and then the net c net cash
reimbursement of 798,917
to 29 cents from the 2025 equity
investment transaction fund be allocated
to strategic initiatives reserve moved
by regional councelor Crawford. Any
other questions, comments, concerns?
Seeing none, we'll start the vote.
And that passes.
Thank you everyone. We're now into
OES-2026-09
contract award RFT number T 26036
accommodation upgrade project phase 3.
This is move by regional councelor
Crawford and councelor Henry. Councelor
Henry.
>> Thank you. Um, I just wanted to start by
asking, it says the wards that are
affected by this report, one and three.
And am I reading this wrong or are we
looking at uh wards two and two?
>> Who's speaking on this? Dave, is that
you?
>> I can respond
>> um through the chair to councelor Henry.
It impacts I guess ACC, MCC and the
operations center. So those three
locations in their respective boards
>> and the operations center. Okay.
>> So the fireh hall one that we're
referring to uh fire station one
headquarters is
located at
>> Saleomon Rosland.
>> Okay. And
the building that we're not upgrading is
located at
>> Salem and Rosland.
>> It's the same
>> two there were. So what's happened with
respect?
>> So how does it affect WS one and three?
>> I
I'm not sure on the
>> Dr. Meredith, at the beginning at the
top of the report, it says subject and
then wards wards one and three. So, is
it possible that we're taking money from
the fire station to accommodate the
other recreation centers? Is that
or is it just we should ignore the wards
one and three because that's where
councelor Andy's referring to
>> there. There could be a misreerence in
the ward.
>> Okay.
>> Section of the of the report. I'm not
100%.
>> Yep. No problem.
>> I don't have I don't have the report in
front of me right now to see how it's
it's referenced. So, but
>> Okay. No problem.
>> So, it's it's on page 43.
>> Yeah, 43. Page 43.
>> Let's assume it's a typo then. And can
we move on?
>> I just want to clarify. So,
>> yeah, it's it's it was clarification to
make sure I'm understanding where the
project where we're taking money from
and putting it to because I know there
was a change in the name of fireh halls
and that's why I'm making sure that I am
understanding correctly from the report
which fireh hall we're referring to.
It looks like it's not a gotcha moment.
It's a do I understand it correctly
moment.
>> Director clarification to make sure
>> fire station one is on Salem and Rosland
and operations on Salem and Rosland.
>> So that's it.
>> Okay. So I am understanding it
correctly.
>> It is the fireall headquarters at Salem
and Rosland.
>> Okay. I needed to clarify because I know
there's been change in the naming of
these of these stations. So, can I ask
then um when these buildings were built?
Like I'm noticing that you're that in
the report it's referring to, I guess, a
more predominant
um type of renovation coming up in the
near future and that this money could be
used right now for ops versus
headquarters. Does that mean
headquarters is getting a bigger
renovation in the near future? So within
the budget in 2026, there was design
money that was allocated for a moderniz
modernization of of the fireh hall
headquarters. What we're saying is part
of that modernization project, we would
look at dealing with the administrative
area and the office improvements as part
of that project which although council
has not approved the 27 budget, we have
it budgeted for 2027.
Oh, so the fireh hall budget's moving to
27 and we're trying to keep ops in 26.
>> We have money in 2026 for design with
respect to fireh hall headquarters and
then we will do and look through the
budget process to receive council
approval in 27 to complete the works.
>> Okay.
And this is for the office area only.
>> Well, there's
this money that's that we're
reallocating is for the administrative
area. Yes.
>> Yes. Because it talks about creating an
office. It talks about creating a
landing um desk station for those that
are part-time coming and going. I think
the report refers to some kits available
for those that work at home.
Is that correct?
>> Yeah. And those are similar
implementation measures that we did for
phase one and phase two for all office
space at town hall and it will include
the administrative areas at MCC and ACC
as part of this award.
So the the back area behind your office
that's being expanded or that's just
being changed
>> where everyone sits in that in that
landing space.
>> There's nothing physically changing
within that area. That area was
completed as part of phase one. This
impacts more of the fleet and the
building maintenance area that wasn't
affected as part of the first phase.
>> Got it. Okay. Thank you. Good.
>> Thank you, councelor Henry, regent
councelor Crawford, you're up.
>> Thank you, uh, chair. Thanks. Thanks,
uh, dear Dave for this, uh, or Director
Meredith for this report. Um, can you
tell me why we would do any form of
renovations in the ACC when we are
looking at $60 million of renovations
like
60 minutes from now? like I don't
understand why we put any of this money
into it
>> through the chair to regional councelor
Crawford. So we have scope reduce the
scope of this project and sort of what
we're doing in the administrative area
none of it is throwaway cost so anything
that we would look to do and sort of how
we scope the work is all of the
investments that would be made now would
be utilized as part of any renovation
through the ACC project. So, it's not a
complete revamp of the administrative
area that we originally contemplated. It
is more narrowly focused and will just
serve sort of the immediate needs of
recreation staff over the next couple of
years. In all likelihood, it if the ACC
does proceed, it's it is a multi-year
project, right? So, so what's being
proposed right now um as part of this
award um is is minimal in terms of what
was originally contemplated and as I
said there's no throwaway cost
associated with this.
>> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Happy to move it.
>> Thank you. So moved by reach councelor
Crawford. Um we have sorry let me zoom
OBS-2026-09.
Um, I'm just going to go ahead and you
can all see the recommendations.
It's a lot to read. Any questions,
comments, concerns? Seeing none, we'll
start the vote.
Thank you. That passes.
We are now on to OES 2026-08 contract
award T26038
MCC parking lot restruction, Contract
Administration, Inspection Services,
Geotechnical Services. This was pulled
by, excuse me, um, regional counselor,
uh, no, excuse me, councelor Henry
pulled this first.
>> Thank you, chair. Quick question. Um,
with regards to the parking lot, when I
look at the map, I just want to know if
there's an opportunity during this
reconstruction, because it's a
reconstruction, not a resurfacing, to
add more accessible parking uh to this
space. Is Is that a possibility?
Yes, having spoke to the project manager
earlier today, um without any
difficulties, we can accommodate a
couple of additional accessible parking
spaces off the east entrance.
>> Excellent. That's my only question.
Thank you.
>> Thank you, Council Tyler Moore.
>> Thank you. Um the patio area uh at the
south or sorry northwest corner uh
that's part of this reconstruction. Um
it looks tired. Uh you see some you know
grass growing through it. Do we know how
much that gets used? I I'm there quite
often and I don't ever remember seeing
anybody sitting in there. But do we have
like user uh numbers on that area or do
you plan on it being better than it has
been?
Uh I might refer this to director Vita
who would have a better handle on the
usage of that space.
Director Vita, do you want to speak on
this?
Director Vita, if you're speaking, we
can't hear you right now.
Is your audio settings lined up to your
mic?
>> Sure. I can go offline on this if uh if
he's not available.
>> I very much appreciate that.
>> Yeah,
>> he'll leave us all the
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'm glad to see that it's part of
this improvement because I've had
complaints about it and how it was to
shut, but I just wanted to know my
question. I can talk to director V
offline if that is better. Okay. Do you
have any more questions, Council Morn?
>> No.
>> Did you want to move this, Cyl?
>> Thank you. Well, you raised my hand. I
appreciate that. Um, we have three
recommendations. We can all see them on
our respective agendas. Any further
questions, comments, concerns? Seeing
none, we'll start the vote.
Here we go.
And finally, we're at RCS-226-02
St. Francis Center rebranding and 15th
anniversary programming. This was moved
by councelor Henry. Councelor Henry,
>> sorry, this was poll.
>> Thank you. Um,
>> I knew what you meant. Don't worry. Uh,
thank you. Um, I wanted to ask a
question. So, first of all, I want to
say that I agree with the report 100%
everything in the report. Very well
done. Uh we get this all the time that
folks think that it's the church and
it's not. I was telling folks about the
event and uh recently I've been meeting
with some folks from the international
black and diverse film festival that I
connected with some artists um from the
states bringing them here and even
having the conversation folks are
assuming it's a church. So love the
rebranding think it's great. I wanted to
ask again about the cross and where that
is going. That will be removed.
>> Uh we see Robert Guber on the line.
Robert, please. Mr. Gerber, please.
>> Hey. Uh sorry, Mr. Gerber. We also
cannot hear you either. Um this is a
prank that Wrecken Culture is pulling on
us. No, I'm teasing. Um do you want to
try again? Go ahead.
No, we see that you're speaking, but we
cannot hear you right now.
>> I can't even see him.
>> Uh, sorry. I have the um the Brady Bunch
screen. Uh, Director Vita, do you want
to try?
>> Okay.
>> You know what? If if it'll help at this
time, if it'll help at this time, I'll
take my question offline and I'll be
happy to move the report.
>> Thank you. And please share that answer
with us. Councelor Henry, we're also
interested. Councelor Tyler Mourin, I'm
sure you have a question. I just wonder
who can respond.
>> I do. Uh from the um heritage advisory
committee. Uh I recognize that this the
physical alterations have been raised
via the art and cultural plan, but the
immediate action in the GC seems to be
focused on renaming and the anniversary
program. However, in the upcoming GCC
meeting, uh if there are any um changes
to the physical building, Heritage
Advisory Committee has asked me to uh
remind staff to include them if it that
is possible as they have a vested
interest on buildings and knobs and
windows and doors and the the history of
that building. Thank you,
>> Mr. Gruber. You want to try again?
No, unfortunately we do not.
>> So mine is just an ask of staff to
include uh honor.
Consider that feedback given. I
appreciate that. This has been moved.
Sorry. Any other questions, comments,
concerns? Seeing none, this has been
moved by councelor Henry. Appreciate
that recommendation. Recommendation.
Council approve the renaming of the St.
Francis Center to the Ajax Center for
the Arts. that the Ajax Center's 15th
anniversary programming taking place on
the 4th and 5th of July, 2026 be
received for information. No further
questions, comments, concerns. We'll
start the vote.
And that passes all that's left for this
meeting is um get a mover to adjourn.
Show fans, please. I see councelor Tyler
Moore. Thank you very much. Any
questions, comments, concerns on
adjourning? Seeing none, we'll start the
vote.
Great. That passes. I want to keep this
going. Everyone, have a fantastic day.
Thank you, staff and council. We'll see
you at the next meeting.