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Grimsby Council Caps Downtown Building Heights - 01 Jun 26
Grimsby · June 03, 2026
Order of the special council meeting of
uh Monday, June 1st, 2026.
Ginsby is situated on treaty land. This
land is steeped in the rich history of
the first nations such as the
Hadawender, the Hodnosi, and the Inisha,
including the Missosagas of the Credit
First Nation. There are many First
Nations, Matei, and Inuit people from
across Turtle Island that live and work
in Niagara today. The regional
municipality of Niagara and the town of
Grimsby stand with all indigenous
people, past and present, in promoting
the wise stewardship of the lands on
which we live.
Are there any disclosures of pecunary or
non-punary interest?
Seeing none, can I have a mover and
second to approve the agenda?
Moved by councelor Vardy, second by
councelor Frank. Resolve that the agenda
for the June 1st, 2026 special council
meeting be approved. All in favor?
That's carried.
Our first delegation this evening is
Mike Collins Williams. Mike, uh, please
come to the podium.
Thank you. That was quick.
Mayor and members of council, thank you
for the opportunity uh to speak this
evening. My name is Mike Collins
Williams, CEO of the West End
Homebuilders Association, and I'm also a
registered professional planner. WHP
represents more than 300 companies
involved in land development and
residential construction across
Hamilton, Burlington, and Grimby. our
members of the people responsible for
delivering housing this region urgently
needs as well as being a major employers
supporting well-paying jobs right here
in this community. I first want to
acknowledge the sign significant amount
of work town staff have undertaken
throughout this official plan review
process. There have been extensive
consultation and thoughtful effort put
into the draft before council. WHBA
appreciates being included in the
engagements and we appreciated the
detailed and technical conversations
we've had over the last several months
with the planning department. However,
despite a number of improvements, WHBA
remains concerned that the proposed
official plan is still too rigid, too
prescriptive, and in several key areas
inconsistent with the province's clear
direction to support increasing housing
supply, supporting higher levels of
intensification and streamlined planning
approvals. If Grimsby wants to achieve
its housing objectives, especially
around the GO station and protected
major transit station areas, the
official plan must provide greater
flexibility in built form opportunities,
design, and development standards.
Transit oriented communities only
succeed when municipalities allow
sufficient density to support them. The
province is making a major investment
with the GO station here in Grimby and
it is the town's responsibility to
enable transit oriented communities
through public policy. Across Ontario,
municipalities are increasingly
recognizing this reality. The city of
Missaga, for example, has embraced more
flexible built form policies around its
transit station areas to encourage
higher density and mixeduse communities.
Bon Metropolitan Center is another
example where planning policy
intentionally supports larger scale
intensification around higher order
transit through flexible urban design
frameworks. Even closer to home,
Hamilton continues to evolve its
approach to intensification around
transit corridors and major growth
areas. Ginsby has a tremendous
opportunity around the GO station area,
but that opportunity can only be
realized if the official plan enables
economically viable development. As
such, WHB remains concerned that the
proposed four-story maximum in portions
of the TOD village area south of the QEW
is far too restrictive. We question why
the town is proposing a reduction from
the original allocation of six stories.
Transit oriented development requires
meaningful density. Limiting heights too
aggressively undermines the very purpose
of intensification around transit
infrastructure. The province is
investing in Grimby. It is important
that Grimsby respond to that public
investment by enabling private
investment. A couple of comments on
built form. WHBA strongly recommends
increasing the maximum residential floor
to 900 square meters from the proposed
800. Slightly larger floor plates enable
more economically viable buildings that
will encourage larger family-sized
units. From a construction standpoint,
smaller floor plates is much less
efficient as a larger percentage of the
floor plate is occupied by service
corridors, staircases, and elevators. A
slightly larger floor plate improves
building efficiency and thus economic
viability as well as livability by
creating opportunities for those larger
units. The proposed angular plane
requirements will create significant
barriers to to delivering affordable,
sustainable, and economically viable
developments. While intended to manage
transition between buildings, angular
planes are an overly rigid built form
control that does not reflect the real
realities of contemporary mid and
high-rise design. These requirements can
severely constrain building massing,
reduce design flexibility, and limit
achievable density, often resulting in
inefficient floor plates, compromised
unit layouts, and higher construction
costs without a corresponding public
benefit. WHB recommends replacing
angular plane requirements with more
flexible approaches such as podium
design or setbacks above certain height
which can achieve appropriate transition
while supporting practical and viable
development outcomes. As a professional
planner, I will note that angular planes
were sort of the flavor of the day in
previous decades but have been falling
out of favor in many cities and towns
across North America. WHB is also
concerned that the proposed parkland
policies are overly restrictive and do
not reflect the province's recent
direction toward greater flexibility and
practicality in parkland delivery. In
particular, we question the requirement
that parkets can only be accepted where
they create connections rather than as
smaller standalone [snorts]
spaces. Small parkets can still serve as
a valuable functional public open
spaces, especially in compact urban
environments such as around the future
ghost station area where opportunities
for larger parks may be limited.
Additionally, the proposed increase in
parkhead size requirements from 0.1
hectares in the previous draft to a
target of 0.25 hectares and up to.5
hectares may unnecessarily limit
practical parkland solutions within
intensification areas. Through bill 28,
sorry, bill 23 and bill 98, the province
has clearly emphasized that parkland
should be evaluated based on
functionality, accessibility, and
contribution to the public realm rather
than rigid standards related to size,
configuration, or network connections.
Smaller peettes, urban plazas, and
privately owned public spaces, otherwise
known as POPS, can all play an important
role in creating vibrant walkable
communities in supporting
intensification objectives around
transit in growth areas.
There are active Ministry of Municipal
Affairs and Housing Environmental
Registry postings um active right now
that are consulting on these very
issues. I'm concerned that if the
proposals in the Grimby official plan
may conflict with provincial policy
before the ink is even dry. Finally, I
want to touch on climate resiliency and
energy efficiency. WHPA certainly
supports the objective of encouraging
climate resilient and energy efficient
buildings. We support policies that
incentivize innovation and
sustainability while still recognizing
the province's direction on limiting
mandatory municipal green development
standards. There's an important balance
to strike between environmental
objectives and housing affordability.
The industry is already innovating
rapidly in such areas as building
efficiency, sustainable materials,
electric vehicle infrastructure, and
climate adaptation. But flexibility must
remain part of the conversation so the
sustainability goals do not
unintentionally create additional
barriers to housing delivery. At the end
of the day, all of these issues connect
back to one central question, which is,
will this official plan enable housing
or make it harder to build? WHBA
believes Grimby can achieve good
planning, strong urban design,
sustainable ability objectives, and
intensification simultaneously, but only
if the framework remains flexible,
practical, and focused on outcomes. We
respectfully urge council to continue
refining this official plan to ensure it
supports the housing supply, transit
oriented growth and economic realities
facing municipalities across Ontario
today. Thank you very much for your
time.
>> Thank you for your presentation, Mike.
Uh questions from councel
uh councelor Shawa.
>> Mayor Jan, thank you. Uh thank you for
coming. Uh just clarity on your
questions. Um now as you know there are
three development areas. Now you
discussed more more so um areas related
to the GO. So is this more density at
the GO or are you in agreement that we'd
like to kind of leave our more
established areas alone or is this a
blanket statement through all of Grimby?
>> The focus should be within the GO
station areas and and downtown. That
being said, we do think there are uh
opportunities for gentle intensification
um within some of the existing
communities. And by that I mean, you
know, not building towers, not building
midrises, but having opportunities for
uh forplexes, small town home
developments, things that create a
diversity of opportunities. Uh we all
know that housing is getting more and
more expensive in uh most communities in
Ontario, including Grimby. So having a
diversity of opportunities enables young
people just starting out to sort of get
their foot in the door and have that
ground oriented housing uh with a patch
of grass uh maybe space for a barbecue
to raise a family uh in Grimby. Um one
other area that we see an opportunity
within existing communities is sort of
that smallcale retail, a corner store,
something like that. um you do have some
aging 1970s plazas that are sort of
bordering on or just in communities and
there may be some opportunities for I'll
call it smallcale intensification there
that does still fit within the character
of the neighborhood um but providing
more opportunities than just single
family homes.
>> Thank you for for clarifying that. Um so
to your one point I I just wanted to
clarify because you had said that the
province has invested greatly in GO
Transit and I would say for a community
of 30,000 people groomsby taxpayers have
significantly
um invested in the infrastructure for
all of these developments that are are
not here yet. So this is the
organization you are representing. So we
have financially invested an incredible
amount for all of this. So we are very
welcome welcoming to all of this. Um, I
would say personally, and I I can't
speak for all of council, but there
seems to be more of an agreement as far
as the um the the flexibility
um towards the go train area. So, I
think if you know, if you're bringing
this back to to the people, you're going
to find that the plans are a little more
flexible there for a lot of the things
that you've discussed. And I would agree
that I think maybe a 900 foot plan is
possibly more um desirable than 800 and
I would probably support that. Um the
problem is is when you start impeding on
the established areas and and chipping
away at the parkland. So, um, again, I'm
just one one vote here, but I think if
you want to make it an easier go, then
then touch on the density in the GO
train area.
>> Yeah, as I said, that's the focus. we
see some opportunities for um
communities to evolve over time with
some of that flexibility and um you know
I empathize with everybody around the
council table that um growth and
planning really is about change
management and a recognition that our
communities are changing and evolving
over time. Uh and it's how do you manage
that change over time? Um recognizing
that communities should not necessarily
stay static and frozen in time.
Sorry, just to to add, I don't think
anybody here is expecting anything's
going to be frozen in time. I I
personally I've probably been the one to
be the most as far as pushing back a
little bit. It's cuz I love this town
and I want to make sure that everything
is done. Um, you know, in a way that
suits everybody that's already here. Um,
so it's just good planning. So that's
again I think if if you're focusing on
on really intensifying an area go train
would probably be your easiest bet. So
thank you for coming.
>> Any other questions from council?
>> Seeing none. Thank you very much for
your presentation. Mike up next we have
uh Michelle Seaburn.
>> Good evening counselor.
you. Good afternoon and thank you for
the opportunity. This isn't turned on
yet, is it?
>> Yes,
>> it is. Thank you. [clears throat] Thank
you for the opportunity to speak to our
new recommended official plan. As a
longtime resident of Grimby, I
understand the importance of official
plans in guiding change within our
community. They are among the most
important documents a municipality
creates because they shape how our town
will grow, develop, and evolve for
decades to come. Prior to 2012 when the
current official plan was being drafted,
I was fortunate to serve on a community
as a community member on GDAC which
[clears throat] which at the time
operated under the planning and
development umbrella. We had a small
role to play in the creation of the
official plan particularly regarding
employment opportunities, economic
development and the pressures associated
with growth. One of the key principles
that emerged from that work was that
growth should occur where it makes more
sense. The west end of Grimby was
identified as our primary area for
intensification.
The former place site, the former fifth
wheel, the future go station were the
logical choices for the higher density
development. employment opportunities
and the more walkable community. Access
to the QEW made the area particularly
well suited to accommodate growth. The
Winston Road secondary plan and
subsequent planning around the GO
station reflected that vision. We've
already seen some of the vision take
place through the Grimsby on the lake
area. While other significant projects
including the GO station area and
surrounding development remain
unfinished, the West End still
represents the best long-term strategy
for directing higher density growth in
the area. I mention this because it
highlights an important principle.
Growth itself is not the issue. Poorly
managed growth is the issue. The purpose
of an official plan is not to stop
change. It's to shape change in a way
that reflects the community's values.
Most residents understand that Grimby
will continue to grow. The question is
whether the group the growth is planned
carefully, supported by infrastructure,
respectful of the existing
neighborhoods, and reflective of the
communities the way we want them to
become. I was pleased to participate in
several consultation sessions during the
development of the new official plan.
Having re reviewed the plan, I want to
acknowledge the tremendous amount of
work that's gone into it. Planning
policy continues to evolve at the
province and adapting to those changes
is no easy task. There are three areas,
however, that I'd like to comment on
today. The first is Grimby Beach.
>> This neighborhood contains heritage.
>> Michelle, I just want to clarify because
the actual the last official plan was
actually adopted in 2009. in 200
>> 2009, not 2012.
>> Thank you for the clarification. I was
still part of that one. [clears throat]
>> Uh I was uh okay, three areas I would
like to comment on today. The first is
Grimby Beach. This neighborhood contains
a heritage that is truly unique, not
just within Grimby, but across Canada.
Its character, history, and development
pattern help define who we are in a
community. I trust that staff is doing
everything they can to protect that
heritage and I commend them for the work
they've already done. However, updating
and consolidating planning documents
must be done in a way that remains
clear, enforcable, and visible to the
residents. However, saying there's no
change to the intent of the policy is
not necessarily the same as
demonstrating that those protections
themselves remain equally clear and
enforcable as they were when they were
first adopted. Residents deserve a clear
understanding of exactly what is going
to change in this area now that the new
official plan has been um proposed and
envisioned as a secondary plan. Excuse
me. The second area I would like to
comment on is population growth and
intensity. Most residents understand
that Grimsby is going to continue to
grow. However, I do not support a
population forecast of 51,000 residents
contained within the recommended
official plan and what it means for how
we grow. In my view, a forecast that
forecast reflects a vision of growth
that is inconsistent with both Grimby's
physical restraints and the town's
planned work. The intensification
strategy completed by the town last year
exam examined multiple growth scenarios
and identified a s a sustained growth
scenario of 13,900 new residents. This
is less than the more aggressive target
of 51,000.
That aggressive forecast is based upon a
Markham style growth of uh for Grimby
where we grow grow from the center out
which means intensification in the
downtown which is inconsistent with what
most of the community wants. I believe a
sustained growth scenario of the study
better reflects how residents want
Grimby to evolve.
This brings me to my final concern and
that's building heights in the downtown.
[clears throat]
Excuse me. The population forecast
matters because it directly influences
the scale of development contemplated by
the official plan. The recommended
official plan permits building heights
of up to 12 stories in the downtown
subject to conditions such as visual
impact assessments. I don't support that
approach. I understand that councilors
have become frustrated with the
decisions of the Ontario Land Tribunal.
However, I'm concerned that with the
combination of aggressive population
forecasts and broadly worded height
policies
that uh they may unintentionally
strengthen the position of developers
seeking approvals that many residents
would consider inappropriate. This is
not the setting or this is not in
setting the town up for successful OOLT.
The problem is not simply height itself.
The problem is the language intended to
protect the community character and is
not always specific enough for what must
be preserved. What views are we
preserving? What streetscapes are we
preserving? What character
characteristics define success? Without
being specific, developers can argue
that their proposals satisfy the intent
of the official plan even when residents
believe fundamentally
that changes the character of the area.
If council intends to permit these
heights, the policy should be far more
specific about what must be achieved and
protected. My preference, however, would
be simpler. just limit the building
heights south of Main Street to six
stories.
I recognize that intensification has
always been anticipated in the downtown,
but when the current official plan was
adopted, few people could have predicted
the level of growth pressure Grimby
would receive. The level of
intensification contemplated in the
recommended plan is too aggressive for
the downtown area. Some of that growth
should be instead directed towards the
GO station area and other locations that
were identified as more appropriate
places for intensification.
Throughout the official plan, we are
reminded that one of Grimsby's defining
characteristics
are unique location between Lake Ontario
and the Niagara Escarment.
One of the Oops, sorry. One of the most
recognizable views in our community is
the view of the escarment from Main
Street looking up Mountain Street.
Residents know that view. Visitors know
that view. It appears in photographs,
promotional materials, and countless
images that help define Grimsbee's
identity. Let's not hide behind 12story
buildings. Good planning is ultimately
about balance. Balancing growth with
infrastructure. balancing development
with heritage and balancing new
opportunities with qualities that make
people proud to call Grimby home. Most
importantly, good planning requires
listening to residents and bringing
people together around a shared vision
for the future. I appreciate the
tremendous effort that has gone into
preparing the official plan. A document
of more than 400 pages is no small
undertaking,
particularly in an environment where the
provincial policy continues to evolve.
The decisions made through the official
plan will shape Grimby for long after
we've left this room. We have the
responsibility to accommodate growth,
but we also have the rep responsibility
to preserve the qualities that make
Groomsby worth living. Thank you for
your time and thank you for my the
opportunity to share your share with you
my visions.
>> Thank you for your presentation.
Questions from council?
>> Seeing none. Um
>> thank you.
>> Up next we have um Bridget Malloy.
Bridget, please come to the podium.
>> Um, good evening, mayor, u, members of
council, and neighbors. Uh, my name is
Bridget Malloy. I'm a ward 3 resident.
I'm speaking tonight regarding the draft
official plan and specifically the
downtown district policies. Earlier in
this process, I appeared before council
to express concerns about the wording of
the draft official plan. My concern was
not about growth itself. My concern was
whether the plan clearly and predictably
communicates where intensification is
intended to occur and on what level of
certainty residents can rely on when
reading it. At that time, I noted that
many policies related to compatibility,
transition, neighborhood character, and
built form relied heavily on should
rather than shall. My concern was
simple. Residents need to know which
policies are requirements and which are
merely guidance.
>> I'm just going to raise so that one, you
don't just drain your eyesight and two,
you're a little closer to the mic.
>> Thank you.
Um, I raised the issue again tonight
because u recent discussions u regarding
downtown building heights demonstrate
exactly why policy wording matters. The
draft official plan identifies downtown
Grimby as an important cultural, civic,
commercial, and heritage focal point.
Yet residents have are facing a fact
that um many members of council sought
to reduce mid-rise per um permissions
um from 12 stories to approximately 7 to
eight stories. The wording unfortunately
may still allow approvals up to 12
stories. If council's vision is truly a
downtown built form of seven or eight
stories, then the official plan should
clearly reflect that vision.
Planning decisions are not based on
intentions. They are based on adopted
policy language. Future developers,
future councils, planning staff, and
potentially tribunals will rely on the
words contained in this document. If the
official plan says council may approve
12 stories, then that possibly remains
part of the planning framework
regardless of the intentions expressed
during the review process. This concern
is particularly important given the um
recent sale of lands on John Street.
Residents are understandably paying very
close attention to how the official plan
addresses height, density, transition,
and compatibility in the downtown area.
Public confidence depends on
transparency, consistency, and clear
policy direction. I'm also concerned
about the broader planning environment
currently in Ontario. Recent provincial
initiatives have increasingly
centralized planning authority and
expanded the ability of provincial
decision makers to accelerate
development approvals. Whether one
agrees with those changes or not, they
create additional uncertainty regarding
how local planning decisions may be made
in the future.
In that context, the official plan
becomes even more important.
If future councils, provincial
authorities, or other decision makers
are granted greater powers over
development approvals, then the wording
adopted in this official plan today
becomes critically important. Residents
may have fewer opportunities in the
future to influence individual
development proposals. As a result,
that's okay. As a result, it is
essential that the official plan contain
clear enforcable direction regarding
height, transition, compatibility,
heritage conservation, and neighborhood
character. That is why I continue to
believe that discuss discretionary
language such as should and may must be
used carefully, particularly where
council's intent is to establish
meaningful limits or protections. I'm
also concerned that discretionary
language continues to appear in areas
where residents expect certainty.
Policies intended to protect protect
neighborhood character, heritage
context, and appropriate transition
should be written as requirements
wherever possible. Residents need to
know what outcomes are expected, not
simply what outcomes are encouraged.
The decisions made through this official
plan will guide Grimby's growth till
201. Once permissions are embedded in
the official plan, they become
difficult, if not impossible, to
revisit. Once heritage character is
gone, it cannot be restored. I support
growth and intensification. However,
growth should respect the heritage,
pedestrian scale, and unique character
character that make downtown Grimsby the
heart of the community. If council's
intent is a built is a downtown built
form in the range of seven or eight
stories, then I respectfully ask council
to ensure that the draft that the
official plan clearly reflects that
intent
rather than leaving open the possibility
of 12story development through
discretionary wording. Residents should
not have to guess what the official plan
means. Thank you for your time and
consideration.
>> Thank you for your presentation,
Bridget. questions from council.
Seeing none, uh up next we have uh Sarah
Nixon. Sarah, please come to the podium.
>> How' you do that thing to like to lower
this?
>> Thank you.
Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. So,
just to start off, I did I want to just
be transparent in saying that I am a
museum professional and I do currently
say serve as the chair of the Grimsby
Heritage Advisory Committee. But today,
I am delegating as a resident and I'm
here to speak on the official plan as it
relates to the downtown district
specifically. But first, I would like to
thank town staff and members of council
for the earnest work in developing
envision Grimby 201 in dialogue with the
Grimsby community. I understand that
this is no easy task, especially amidst
substantial changes to provincial
planning regulation and how this greatly
impacts how we guide our communities. I
see the efforts to be transparent,
provide public education, and invite
community input in the process and
having the opportunity to participate in
many consultations. I do appreciate
this. When it comes to the framework to
guide change in Grimsby's downtown
district, I'm urging council today to
further strengthen our controls and
language in the official plan to ensure
that the character, identity, and feel
of our downtown remains intact,
prominent, and celebrated by 201.
Taking a holistic approach to upholding
the built, cultural, and natural
heritage of downtown is paramount to
ensuring our distinct identity and sense
of place. Currently in the draft
official plan, there is language about
the importance of the relationship
between the Niagara Escarment and Lake
Ontario in guiding development. I'm
referring specifically to section 5.3 on
the built form framework. And I
appreciate that draft three of the plan
requires new mid and high-rise
developments to be assessed in relation
to the escarment in Lake Ontario, but I
feel this language is not strong enough
in assessing these developments against
each other and within context of the
whole skyline. Each new six and eight
story development alters the townscape
as a whole. Even there's even a clause
permitting the possibility of developing
a building that rises up to 12 stories.
And I wonder if this wouldn't create
precedent for another and how this would
then stand up in an OOLT hearing.
Draft 3 also has a has reduced building
height maximums for the downtown
neighborhood to a maximum of eight
stories and strengthened the language
for new developments in the downtown
village. I'm urging for building heights
and density to be reduced further, a
maximum of four stories across the
downtown district. Otherwise, we risk
the very character of our historic town,
which as is alluded in the plan, is
intrinsically tied to the escarment lake
and I would also argue 40 Mile Creek,
which is the reason why people settled
here in the first place. To be clear, I
support the development. I support
development in the downtown district.
Development brings new people to support
local businesses. It's an impetus to
invest in and nurture creativity and
enrichment. and downtown should be
vibrant and lively and new development
will enable this. Rather, I'm asking for
a scaledback intensification that still
speaks to the character and feel of the
downtown district. The area around the
future ghost station is already
identified for sharply increased density
and building heights. And we're already
sacrificing the relationship the
escarment and lake there. So why
sacrifice the heart of the town where
our oldest heritage homes, mostly intact
historic main streets, landmark
churches, train station, trails, park
space, it's all here. And these are the
landmarks and natural gateways of the
town. And in fact, to me, the most
quintessentially Grimby gateway is the
view of the of the escarment overlooking
the town when you look onto any of the
streets heading south.
Section 5.2 two on the general public
realm frameworks refers to the
importance of placemaking gateways and
the addition of landmarks in the third
draft. I'm very glad to see this as this
is essential to preserving the town's
character. Our landmarks, prominent
views, and gateways already exist and
should be enhanced. As chair of the
heritage committee, I know that we're
working very hard to designate the
buildings of historic significance
across Grimby for the very reason that
they contribute to our place to our
sense of place here. However, as it's
worded now, section 5.3 on the general
built form framework and more
specifically section 5.2
5.4.2 too [laughter]
[clears throat] uh on mixed use
development in the downtown district
does not seem to be in direct
conversation with the concepts set out
when discussing the the landmarks.
I feel I fear that this opens for
contradiction and should be addressed.
Otherwise, new developments risk
dwarfing the historic character of
downtown that we've been working
tirelessly to protect and celebrate
through heritage designations.
My request here is to more specifically
identify the landmarks and gateways we
are collectively wishing to preserve and
to explicitly reference designated
heritage buildings within this. There is
mention through the plan on the
importance of trails, walkab walkable
mixed street, walkable mixeduse streets,
ease of transportation, views of the
escarment. But I don't see these
actually talking to one another in
direct and deliberate ways across the
sections. In section seven on
infrastructure and transportation does
not sign sufficiently consider how
increased density in the downtown
district will impact how people will
actually move through downtown whether
on foot, bike, car, or bus. These
guidances seemed isolated from one
another. So to summarize, I've come here
this evening to urge council to reduce
the maximum building heights across the
downtown district to four stories to
preserve the natural, cultural, and
built heritage essential to Grimby, and
to ask town staff to implement stronger
language to better connect the guidances
in the official plan related to building
height, density, streetscapes, and
multimodal transportation more clearly
in order to remove contradiction and
close loopholes left open to
interpretation. Thank you for the
opportunity to speak and thank you once
again for the efforts put into making
this official plan.
>> Thank you for your presentation, Sarah.
Uh questions from council. Councelor
How?
>> Okay. And through you, chair. Sarah,
they we talked about the the build and
and you probably know better than I, but
uh when it comes to construction and
then we're talking about trying to uh
complement what's already down there.
And when I was going through some of
that um
plan, but I came across one page on
appendix D where it talks about um
the
province. This is the province remove
the ability for site plan to regulate
colors, materials and finishes of
proposals. In other words, you know, so
they can be compatible and so maybe
If we could tighten that up, we can. But
the province, and you know better than I
do, what the province has done to us. Uh
the they took away um the preconult,
you know, which the probably the the the
most um easy way to start the ball
rolling in in the right direction, get
somebody's trained out. They take that
away. So, let's not talk to them. and
then they've taken it down to site plan
to be one person.
So they're making it very difficult to
fight, you know, the other guy. But
thank you for listening.
>> Uh seeing no further questions from
council, thank you very much for your
presentation, Sarah.
up are there also uh tonight written
delegations from Adam Mod's heads Sharon
Porter and Kevin Luchenheisen
uh that are on the agenda and included
in public record. Can I have a mover and
seconder to receive the delegations?
Moved by councelor DeFlavio, second by
councelor Vardy resolve that all verbal
and written delegations on the council
agenda but the draft official plan be
received. All in favor?
That's carried.
Up next, we move to presentations. Uh we
have Alexis and UT from O2 Planning and
Design to speak to the draft official
plan. Please come to the podium.
All
right. Uh, good evening your worship and
members of council. My name is Alexis
Beiel and I'm here with UTE GM Batista
on behalf of O2 Planning and Design.
We're here this evening to provide an
update on the draft official plan and
the work that has been completed to
date. The presentation will walk through
the key milestones, the policy and
legislative framework, the major items
addressed in the draft official plan,
the engagement completed through the
process, and the key directions
reflected in the plan. So, this
presentation is organized around the
main components of the official plan
review. We will begin with the project
milestones
uh and where we are in the process
followed by the policy in the plan
review, including recent provincial
changes and the work completed to align
the draft official plan with the
regional planning framework. We will
then review the key draft official plan
items, summarize public engage
engagement, and walk through the plan's
pillars, growth management approach,
town structure, recommendations, and
next steps. And you can stay on this
slide for a second. Um, the official
plan review has moved through several
phases beginning with visioning followed
by policy directions, preparation of the
plan, and review of the draft official
plan. Key milestones have included
public engagement opportunities,
preparation of the official plan, and
then the releasing the three drafts to
the official plan of the official plan
to the public. Tonight's council meeting
is an important point in the process as
we are now moving from consultation and
refinement towards finalizing the plan
with the final version expected to come
forward to council in July 2026.
Go to the next slide.
Uh the provincial planning framework has
continued to evolve while we've been
preparing the draft official plan. A
number of recent provincial bills have
changed the broader municipal planning
environment, including bills 23, 97,
185, and more recently, Bill 98. These
changes reflect the province's continued
focus on increasing housing supply,
streamlining planning approvals,
updating appeal rights and municipal
processes, supporting additional res
residential units, and changing certain
planning infra certain planning
infrastructure and financial tools
available to municipalities.
for this draft official plan. That meant
we needed to continue reviewing the
document as the provincial framework
changed, particularly in relation to
growth management, housing
intensification, implementation tools,
and how municipalities are expected to
plan for complete communities and
infrastructure.
Another key provincial change uh that
was introduced under bill 98 is the
province's direction to remove the
standalone secondary plans and
incorporate them into the official plan
and then update those to reflect the the
current provincial framework.
Accordingly, several key areas including
Kemp and Mountain Road, Winston Road
neighborhood and the Grimby go transit
station and Grimby Beach have been
integrated directly into the plan. This
approach establishes a single
coordinating planning document for the
municipality. From a regional
standpoint, provincial changes have also
affected how planning responsibilities
are structured in Niagara. As of March
31st, 2025, the Niagara official plan is
no longer a regional plan and is now
considered Grimby's second official
plan.
As part of preparing the draft official
plan, we have had to review the
applicable regional policies and
schedules and determine how they should
be carried forward, integrated, refined,
or implemented through Grimsey's new
local official plan. This has included
aligning with regional direction on
growth management, settlement areas,
employment lands, agricultural and rural
areas, natural heritage, infrastructure,
transportation intim intensification,
and the go station area while also
ensuring the local official plan
provides clear and locally appropriate
appropriate policy. We've also reviewed
the plan, the draft plan against the
applicable provincial and regional plans
shown on this slide, including the green
belt plan, the Niagara scarment plan,
and as I already said, the Niagara
official plan.
>> I'm just
start
No problem. Uh you can go to the next
slide.
Uh a significant amount of feedback has
been reviewed and incorporated through
this process including comments rece
received through all engagement phases
and on both versions on all three
versions of the draft official plan.
We've also considered feedback from the
Niagara Peninsula Conservation
Authority, Niagara Region, the province,
town staff, council, members of the
public, and other interested parties.
And as I mentioned above, as per
provincial direction, we have also
integrated the existing secondary plans
into the draft OP. A major part of the
work has also been updating and
streamlining the policies so the plan
reflects current provincial and regional
direction while also making the document
clearer and more practical to use.
Next slide.
Um, public engagement has been a very
significant part of the official plan
process. The planning act sets out a
minimum consultation requirement of two
meetings for official plans. For this
project, we've gone well beyond those
minimum statutory requirements. To date,
we have completed approximately 18
engagement opportunities. This includes
various public information centers, the
statutory public meeting, in-person
events, town talk events, a downtown
cheret, a downtown thinktake, walk-in
talk tours, a housing and affordability,
community conservation, let's talk
grimby surveys and polls, and then
meeting with interested parties.
The purpose of the engagement was not
only to meet the requirements of the
planning act, but to provide a range of
meaningful opportunities for residents,
agencies, and interested parties,
council, and staff to participate in the
process. Feedback was received through
each stage of the project from the early
on visioning work to the policy
directions phase and straight through to
the review of the draft official plan.
The feedback has informed the structure
of the plan, the policy directions and
the refinements now reflected in the
draft official plan.
Next slide.
The official plan is organized around a
set of pillars that describe the type of
community Grimby is planning for. One
important change is the addition of the
fourth pillar, compatible and
responsible growth. This was added to
recognize that Grimby is expected to
accommodate most future growth infill
and intensification rather than through
outward expansion. As a result, the plan
needs to provide a clear direction on
how growth should occur. Growth needs to
respond to the surrounding community, be
supported by infrastructure and
services, and contribute positively to
the town's overall structure. The
purpose of this pillar is to recognize
that growth is expected, but that it
should occur in a way that is
compatible, responsible, and appropriate
for Grimby's local context.
Next slide.
The draft official plan plans for growth
to 2015, including 51,100 residents,
9,500 additional housing units, and
17,400 jobs. A key direction in the plan
is that a minimum of 98% of the annual
residential unit growth is directed to
the urban settlement boundary. This does
not mean expanding the settlement area
but rather growth is intended to accom
to be accommodated through infill
intensification and strategic concern
centers. Uh this approach supports more
efficient use of land and infrastructure
and helps connect growth with public
service facilities, transit, active
transportation, parks and community
design. The plan also recognizes that
growth forecasts may need to be reviewed
over time. Future updates will be
considered against develop demand, land
supply, servicing capacity, and
provincial projections.
Next slide.
Uh this is the town structure of the
plan. It identifies where different
forms and scales of growth are intended
to occur in the general neighborhood
area. The plan allows for gentle
intensification primarily through
additional residential units. The
employment area is maintained along the
QEDW corridor to support long-term
employment opportunities. In the
agricultural area, minimal
intensification is expected, but value
added and diversified agricultural uses
are permitted. Neighborhood nodes and
corridors provide opportunities for
gentle intensification and additional
uses. The health center is identified as
a secondary intensification area with
focus on health related uses. The
downtown district is also identified as
a primary intensification area and is a
planned for the second highest density.
Uh the town nodes and corridors are
moderate intensification areas and the
protected major transit station area is
the primary intensification area with
the highest densities and tallest
buildings. And I'm going to pass it off
to UT to go through more specifics of
the plan.
You might need to move the table up.
I think it's okay.
Good evening in your honor and members
of cons of council. I will walk you
through some of the um salient revisions
to the official plan as it stands in its
current draft. So next slide please. So
starting with the PMTSA area, it
continues to be envisioned as the um an
area that's defined by an 800 meter
radius around the Grimcoy station.
It's it's identified as the town's
primary primary intensification area
providing for a mix of residential,
commercial, and employment uses at
higher densities than the reminder of
Grimby. It's envisioned to deliver a 100
persons and jobs per hector and it's the
the highest intensification envision for
the for the town. In the following
slide, you will see a series of um
updates to to the the land use and bill
form strategy. So we have the TOD
innovation and incubation which are
non-residential uses are the employment
uses that frame the PMTSA area. They're
envisioned to for to accommodate for
employment uses and they arrange between
four and six stories maximum just to uh
to accommodate for a range of um any any
employment uh uh um um um warehousing
and any other forms of of of
uh land uses that may choose to to to
build in the area. the the surrounding
next big change was uh uh along the to
village area. The minimum height now the
maximum height now now has been reduced
from six to three stories and with a
permission to go to four stories but
limited on Livingston and Casablanca
recognizing that um they are higher
order uh streets and and they they they
um they have a very different interface
than local streets which remain will
remain at three stories. Then we have
the second ring which will be the DoD
neighborhood. It's where the maximum
height remains at 22 stories with a
minimum height of four stories and it it
it's intended to support the core area
which is the T to center which is the
the tallest and densest part of a a TOD
development with a a minimum 60 stories
and maximum 20 28 stories. So it
effectively works in a concentric circle
fashion to uh more or less a 100 meters
from the the transit station.
From the next slide from the [snorts]
downtown area,
the focus of the revisions to the to the
plan and some of the elements that were
already included in previous versions is
that the downtown will continue to to
operate as the central hub of the of the
town.
It's outside the in industrial areas is
is contemplated as the highest intensity
or concentration of jobs.
It's planned to achieve a lesser
intensification than the PTSM
at 125 people jobs and and and people
per hectare. Uh and it's further as
previously presented divided into four
areas.
The main street will still allow for
that intensification of a mix of uses
and the the the language that encourages
the adaptive reuse and preservation of
the heritage building already [snorts]
contain or existing within the the area
it's it's strengthened. So in the next
slide you will see that we we are
revising the the the recommendations to
allow a downtown main street that um
allows for a maximum four stories is
consistent with a typical uh southern
Ontario main street form. It has a
permission to go to six meters provided
60 stories provided that a step back
from the face of the building of minimum
3 m it's introduced. So when you are
actually walking and experiencing the
main street, you don't you don't feel
the presence of a sixstory building. Um
the downtown village area has been uh uh
uh revised to allow for a maximum height
of three stories with flexibility for up
to four stories subject to further site
plan approval.
The downtown neighborhood area has a
maximum has the height reduced from a
maximum of 12 stories to eight with size
specific permissions to go up to 12
provide certain conditions that met and
and we hear the the the the public's
input on that today. Um there's also I I
have to note in the OP that particular
clause came under the the the
subsection of downtown neighborhood
area. So it has to go back otherwise it
reads as is as if the 12 story applies
for to everything. So it has to be moved
back into into the order of the it's a
formatting uh uh issue that we
discovered today.
uh we removed the downtown neighborhood
area and in the center north side of uh
Main Street and we still uh maintain
that the previously identified downtown
innovation incubition incubation area
which is envisioned for a mix of
non-residential uses to a maximum of 10
10 stories.
Next slide.
Um the health center area continued to
be envisioned as a secondary
intensification area supporting health
health services that uh work from the
synergies of the existing hospital. We
remove the town houses uh north of the
of the main uh street as they will
remain as as they exist and no further
uh changes or provisions are envisioned.
However, the health center main street
is uh a mission to allow for a maximum
of six 60 stories and to continue to
support a mix of uses that work uh uh
and make the best of the synergies with
the hospital. The the health center
neighborhood which is located at the
back of the hospital will allow for a
maximum of forest stories and will
continue to house uh the assistant
living facilities that are in place. And
obviously the hospital will continue to
to function in its current capacity.
Next,
um, a big question that came up last
time that we were presenting here and
then we wanted to to be pointed in
introducing our or highlighting it back
to you is that at least on it's on the
front of housing and affordability
where at least 20% of new rental housing
is to be affordable and at least 10% of
uh, market ownership housing is to be
affordable.
Affordable housing is defined by both
ownership and rental housing and it's
defined by the province.
Uh it will support a mix of bill forms,
long-term rental units, additional
residential units, inclusionary zoning
tools, [snorts] infill and
intensification. So the the the efforts
to expand the housing affordability has
many different tools that that are
mentioned and and listed in the official
plan. So the the town is well prepared
to to um uh enact and and and and
support the the creation of many housing
opportunities for for a wide range of uh
of incomes and and and and people in
coming choosing rims. Um a future
affordable and attainable housing
strategy may uh be commissioned to to
establish additional policies on on this
front. So that's those two two the the
percentages that you see uh are
important additions into into how we are
envisioning that component of the
official plan. Next slide.
from the environment and agriculture.
There were several elements that um uh
were updated. Uh primarily it really
focus on on the encouraging the the
value added agricultural uses and
diversity of agricultural uses related
uses that range from a tourism or uh
onfarmm diversified uses.
Uh we revised the canabis and hemp
policies uh to ensure that development
not does not create an a negative impact
um offsite.
uh moved the policy restricting one
dwelling on a lot to the specialty crop
area from the rural and agricultural
section and added the additional
residential unit policies which was a
technical uh glitch that we had in in
how we allow that um additional dwelling
unit. added campground as a um permit
into permitted use into the rural and
agricultural section. Uh updated
environmental areas and buffers and
added wildland fire policies as a and
mapping as requested by by the province.
Next slide.
Moving around, the the plan looks to
align with the new transportation master
plan.
uh it supports the creation of
transportation network for a v variety
of travel modes which at the end of the
day also encouraged the implementation
of a transit service.
Uh it supports the the the enhance local
transcept transit as well as connection
to the go station
and go transit in the future. It
protects the movement of goods and it it
it plans the expansion of the pedestrian
and and cycling infrastructure in town.
Next slide.
One [snorts] of the fine-tuned elements
that we had is one on on the one of the
uh town nodes that we have at the easter
uh uh note where um additional policies
that uh are meant to enhance uh
employment uses were introduced rather
than leaving a vague language as far as
mixed use. We wanted to make sure that
it it continued to uh encourage and
support employment mixed uses in that
area. So that's another change that
we'll see. Next slide.
other other um revisions and updates
that have come through a series of
conversations with different uh
participants where for example the
finetuning of the Grimby air park policy
which were simplified to recognize the
aerodrome and acknowledge federal
permissions. So you will find them under
section 8 of uh of the official plan. We
adjusted policies for 141 149 Main
Street based on the old most recent OOLT
decision.
Uh we amended the complete application
requirement list based on what the
province is asking municipalities to to
list. Uh we added uh policies to the
creation of uh the community planning
permit system which is a new system and
tool that uh the province uh put forward
and municipalities can make use of in in
the um you know planning of future
future areas in the town.
uh we we move the build form policies
that were under their own heading into
the land use so it's easier for the
reader to understand what sort of
building is expected and what are the
parameters of that building when you're
uh speaking of a particular area
and we added uh rural urban interface
viewshed land use compatibility and ra
railway related policies which um
pertain to any of the lands that are
immediately adjacent to the railroad
corridor.
Uh, next slide.
Greensby beach. The secondary plan was
integrated into the official plan. As as
previously mentioned, the province has
mandated that uh secondary plans be
integrated into into uh new moving
forward official plans. So in the same
vein, the Winston road and then uh the
ghost station secondary plans were um
integrated into the into into the
document. Um in the case of Greensby
Beach, uh the policies continue to
recognize the unique heritage and and
cultural landscapable form of place. Uh
and the direction addresses managing
change.
um the the the core south and and uh
north character areas, land use,
transportation
and the implementation of of of any
future changes through in the area will
occur through through zoning site plan
control, heritage tools and public rail
improvements. So it continues to have
the full ex uh uh uh strength of the of
the uh original secondary plan but now
migrated under the the umbrella of the
of the new official plan.
Next slide.
So before getting into the next steps uh
or maybe I should wrap up with next
steps, we'll continue to uh uh receive
input on this final third version until
June 15. And thank you for every one of
you that delegated. Um we we we also
received the the written uh delegations.
We will uh hope to bring the final
version to council in in July. Uh then
once that takes place, it has to go to
the Ministry of Municipal Affairs to for
their review and approval as they have
the final uh say and then the
implementation and that goes with
everything that has uh been put forward
will continue to be um uh rolled out in
the form of uh community design
guidelines that still need to be
prepared. uh signing bylaw updates as
they pertain to to all this um height
strategies that we are putting forward,
future studies, reviews, uh transition
to new policy framework as well as an
affordable housing housing needs
assessment.
Thank you.
>> Um thank you for your presentation,
Alexis and UT. Uh we will hold all
questions until the staff report is on
the floor for discussion. Can I have a
mover and seconded to receive the
delegation?
Moved by uh councelor how second by
councelor Vardy.
Resolve that the presentation from O2
planning and design be received. All in
favor? That's carried.
All right. Can I have a mover and
seconder to get the staff report on the
floor?
Moved by councelor Frank, second by
councelor Dvoli. Uh, questions from
councel.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. All right. Go ahead. Sorry. Gears.
>> Uh, thank you [clears throat] um, Mr.
Mayor and uh, and council for uh, for
this evening. I just want to thank our
our consultants for the the presentation
and all the work that's gone into the
official plan to date. This is our third
draft of the official plan. Um
[clears throat] we did want to release
the third draft and give the opportunity
for additional input from the public. Um
a significant amount of work has gone
into the prep preparation of the
official plan and
>> [clears throat]
>> um getting to this final draft. Uh we've
done a significant amount of
consultation as well as referenced by
Alexis in the presentation. There's been
a number of engagement opportunities um
through public information centers,
Tourette's, uh walking tours, and also
our formal um public meeting. So, I just
wanted to to highlight all of the the
engagement that's gone into to date and
um also reference the the work uh has
been um documented through the staff
reports. Um the first uh staff report at
the public meeting in February, an
update report in April to planning and
development committee highlighted the
changes from the first draft to the
second draft. And now the report before
you this evening highlights the changes
further to um the plan through this
third draft. So that's just a high level
overview and we're happy to take any
questions.
>> Great. Thank you, Kirsten. Uh we'll
start with councelor uh DeFlavo.
>> Thank you mayor through you. It's just
questions right now, right? Not
comments. Okay. Um, so first of all,
thank you, Kirsten.
>> It can be questions or comments.
>> Okay. So, go ahead.
>> Clearly, you're all listening because
you keep coming back with different
revisions. Um, first I I just want to
ask a few questions. So, uh, Ut, you you
talked about um affordable housing and
attainable housing strategies. Now, I
know we're limited to what we can
actually put in the official plan. Um so
are we clearly setting our next step
then as uh you know a a housing strategy
an affordable housing strategy that can
deliver uh on on what we're and have we
explored it to the fullest extent that
we can within the official plan
framework so that that way we can build
on it with that strategy once we're done
this and of course we got to do zoning
but you know how does that where do we
go from here with that I guess is my
first question.
through you Mr. Mayor and and I will
also uh invite uh uh Kirsten to to
answer but from the official plan
perspective the most important component
will be to outline the the percentages
of affordable we don't know the the full
extent of the definition of attainable
but at least affordable housing that we
can include into an official plan. So
the the the commission of a strategy
that really further further uh enables
the unrolling of a strategy is is is
something that um uh we see being
implemented across the region and and I
find them find it helpful. But from the
official plan perspective, it's exactly
having very clear parameters of what are
your minimum um uh percentages whether
it's for rental or or ownership housing
of uh affordability that the the the the
city the town is considering when provos
come into into place. that's that that
number needs to be included and that's
what sets the stage for [snorts] the
whole asking and how do you get that 20
or that 10.
>> Uh thank you through you Mr. Mayor. So
yes, just to to build on UT's response,
we are including the definition of
affordable housing within the the
official plan and we are including the
percentages that we're carrying that
forward from the the region's Niger
official plan. But the intent following
um the adoption of the plan and
ultimately the approval of the plan
would be to do some more um detailed
work on um the housing needs
[clears throat]
to look at what our current um uh supply
is in terms of different types of
housing units um and looking at
specifically what um Grimby needs in
terms of providing direction for
affordable and attainable housing. Um
and that would come forward through um a
study and an additional amendment to the
official plan when we have those
details.
>> Thank you, Mayor Thyu. Um, so
what I'm getting from that is what we've
understood before and that is that
what's affordable in Grimby is not the
same as what's affordable in another
municipality and and it'll be based on
the data that we the
sorry I can add to that actually uh
through you Mr. Mayor. Um, so we do
actually have more details um when we're
looking at um developments that want to
to put in affordable units. Um, so
through the the DC Act, there was a
bulletin that was released that
specifies affordable um prices or
affordable rates uh for all
municipalities. So if we were looking at
imp
uh implementing affordable units, uh we
would seek to uh look at the affordable
rates within that uh bulletin and
implement that through an affordable
housing agreement. So just kind of
following it through the process, we
will have the policy policies within the
official plan. But when we're looking at
development applications or implementing
affordable units and applying affordable
incentives, um we would be looking at
those rates.
Thank you, mayor. That's thank you for
the clarification, Kirsten. Um through
you again. So Utay did a and and Bianca
actually at the heritage meeting did a
really good job of explaining the Grimby
Beach uh concerns, but I think that I I
still don't think that everybody's
understanding how the new official plan
will replace the secondary plan. So if
and again I hate to to beat a dead
horse, but I I think that it's important
that everybody understands step by step
how one replaces the other. So, uh, you
know, I this is the time to have that
conversation and I think if if you don't
mind, whether it's, uh, Alexis or UT or
or or Kirstston, whoever can elaborate
on that a little bit further and really
kind of get into the weeds a little bit
more about and the details about how one
replaces the other. I think that would
make people feel a little bit more
comfortable about the transition.
>> Kirsten, yeah, go ahead with that one.
>> Sure. Thank you. Through you, Mr. mayor.
Uh so yes, we have heard uh from a
number of residents and received a
number of submissions related to Grimby
Beach. Um we do recognize the importance
of Grimby Grimby Beach and we want to
ensure that we are um including a policy
framework that's going to support and um
guide that heritage preservation. Um
through our consultation with the
province it was recommended that we
remove secondary plans for the official
plan going forward for approve approval
by the minister. Uh so that is what we
did. We incorporated the policy
direction in that area specific policy.
Um we have tested those policies but we
have been going through a series of
exercises internally with staff. So
looking at development applications that
might come in or that have come in in
the past and using the new official plan
to test those policies. So and we will
continue to do that with the third draft
before we bring forward the final
recommendation. So the the way that
we've um we've taken the secondary plan,
we've consolidated the policies where
there is duplication. We've included all
of the um definitions and directions for
the different areas of that secondary
plan. So the core area um I think it's
northwest and the south west um areas
we've included that direction we have
the policy framework that's going to
support and guide um that heritage
preservation and um preserve that
historic value of the area. Um we also
just I guess maybe to to clarify uh the
site plan would only be applied to areas
where there's that commercial or
institutional um type of development. we
can no longer use site plan control for
individual properties. However, um
within this current zoning and what we
would in we would uh include in a future
um zoning exercises to ensure that we
will um maintain the the permissions
right now and that um we can utilize
other planning tools that will help to
ensure that compatible development will
happen within that area.
Thank you, Mayor Through. So, thank you
for the clarification and the internal
testing makes me feel a little more
comfortable. It might be time for the
next term of council. It might be time
for council to explore a heritage
district for that area to kind of
[snorts] use that umbrella if we if if
it's a pl it's an area. I I I'm
comfortable with your explanation, but
at the same time, from a heritage
perspective and being a heritage person,
I I would like that further protection.
So maybe it's time to explore with the
residents again the idea of a heritage
district uh in that area. Um so last
thing I wanted to say, mayor, was the
I find myself returning I listen sorry I
apologize for being late. I was
listening to the everything on the way
in. I was at graduation at school, so I
tried to make it as fast as I could.
people kept using the word evolution and
um I agree that Grimby has to evolve but
I heard the it's interesting because I
heard people from
opposite sides of the spectrum using the
word evolution the people from the the
homebuilders association people from the
opposite sides saying evolution but um
and communities aren't frozen in time
and I get that but evolution is a
gradual process uh it occurs through
small changes over time it doesn't
happen
overnight and each step has to be built
upon what's already existing. And I
still don't think we're there when it
comes to the downtown. I still don't
think eight is an appropriate number for
the number of stories for the downtown.
Um I I think a downtown that's
historically been defined by two, three,
and fourtory buildings at the most can
evolve uh to straight from that to eight
stories. And and I so I still, you know,
I understand that four might not be it
anymore, right? But I think that six has
to be it. And I think that six has to be
it because then when somebody comes in
with seven or eight, they're going above
what we've already set. If we set six is
the maximum, we know we're going to see
more. But six is the maximum allows us
to say six is the maximum that we want
to see in the downtown and have a
something to to start with with. Um I'm
also concerned that we're overlooking
some of the missing middle still in in
this plan. And I'll put that in writing
and I'll and before the final revision
stuff comes in. Um you know the the
duplexes, triplexes and and forplexes uh
town houses, tack town houses, the kind
of a the stuff that we we it's all
either highrises or detached or semi-
detached in Grimby. And we don't see a
lot. I know that we have some of that
inventory that exists from decades ago
when it was being built in the in the
50s and 60s, but we don't have any
recent evidence of that. So, I think
that whatever we can do to promote some
of that middle is important. Um, I'll
put a lot of my what I have to say in
writing, mayor. The the other thing I I
wanted to say though is um around the GO
station the and I'll I'll keep it quick.
uh growth is important but so is context
and I think that around the GO station
we can't go from that gi
we have to consider the the existing
neighborhoods and I'm concerned about
those giant buildings that are being
allowed in the go station area beside
green belt and beside and beside single
detached subdivisions without any kind
of transition without any kind of
consideration of people who have lived
there for decades. So I I I know that
you've addressed some of that. Um I just
think Casablanca Boulevard, for example,
might be a place that we want to explore
more in more depth and create specific
policies for the whole of Casablanca
Boulevard. Um I'll put the rest in
writing. Thank you, mayor. Sorry for all
the most of it was question.
>> Kirsten, do you want to respond still?
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um I was just
going to go back to one of the the
earlier points from councelor Delavio
about um various tools and just
reference that um we did receive uh
direction through council endorsement of
um the heritage committee minutes to
look at those tools and come back with a
report.
>> Who wants to go next? Councelor Frank.
>> Thank you, Mr. [clears throat] Mayor.
There's not much to cover now that
Nick's covered it all. [laughter]
So, maybe I'll just reiterate some of
what he's already said. Um,
this the whole council has been
inundated with letters and emails and
phone calls and texts and so on and so
forth related to the official plan. This
is our third third strike at it. Um, but
it all boils down to actually three or
four different really serious things
that people are really concerned about.
And I'll speak to the beaches first of
all. totally endorse what councelor
Delavio said and I think I don't think
we've yet convinced our beach area
residents that the new official plan is
going to give them protection
uh once we take away the secondary plan
and I want to make if if I just want to
make sure that they are really really
comfortable and really understand what's
going on and that they are covered for
what their concerns are that's really so
important we spent two terms of counsel
or more working with the beaches on
their their secondary plan and the
heritage and the heritage document. So I
just want to make sure that when they
they are totally 100% comfortable and
understand that they are protected. So I
just one thing I want to make sure
that's in there and I know this is
something that council also said. Uh the
other big thing I think we see we're
hearing about is where the
uh intensity is in terms of the downtown
area. uh and I do think that 12 stories
is rather high and I don't know why we
have both we can have eight stories but
we can go to 12 as depending on site
plan so on so forth why don't we just
cap it why do we have to why do we even
have to go to uh mentioning that we can
go to 12 we just c can we just cap it at
8 or 7 and just go from there do we
because it kind of leaves it open a bit
and I think that's another big concern
that people have And I I think we need
to cover that off. I know we can't do
that tonight, but so hopefully we will
be able to do that, Kirsten. Um I don't
know if you want to comment any of that.
You probably have a little bit already.
U go ahead. I have a couple of comments
as well.
>> Uh thank you. Uh and through you, Mr.
Mayor. Yes, we have received lots of of
comments related to the downtown um
neighborhood designation and and the
building heights. Um, one of the ways
that we were looking at addressing those
comments is capping it at the eight with
the ability to go to 12 through certain
permissions. Uh, following through on
um, like our planning tools, that would
mean within the zoning, it would be
capped at a at a building height of
eight stories. It would require a zoning
bylaw amendment. So, it would be a
public process. um and the the policies
in the official plan would apply through
that public process for um the applicant
to demonstrate why 12 would be
appropriate. Um so that was the approach
that we've taken for for the downtown
district or downtown neighborhood area.
And um just to I guess reinforce UT's
point earlier, the policies within the
plan, it does have to clarify that
taller buildings up to 12 stories is
within the downtown neighborhood
designation only, not for all of the
downtown um designation. So that that
clarity is is required within that
policy.
>> If I could follow up. So, um, in terms
of intensification, if we can't
accommodate [clears throat] the
intensification
that we want in the downtown area and
district, can we just up the intensity
to offset those numbers over in another
area like maybe around where the GO
train's going or down by Casablanca and
areas like that? So if we if we down if
we take down the size of the buildings
and the intensification in the downtown
area, can we up the numbers in another
area to accommodate the forecast which I
which is 51,000. And we all know that
51,000 is a is a projection. And at the
end of the day, it's going to be the
market that's going to dictate how many
houses get built in this town or any
town for that matter. So it may be pie
in the sky. It may not be. But 51,000 is
the number we have. So
I don't know if we'll ever get to that
number. Maybe we will. Uh and 25 years
is a long time. I mean, look what
happened to look how the world's changed
in one year. So you know, so it is
really put your finger up in in into the
wind and hopefully you got the right
direction. So I I just I don't know.
It'll be it'll be market dictated at the
end of the day. [snorts]
So I don't know if you can So in ter
terms of intensification, can we shift
intensification to another area to
offset the intensification downtown
area?
>> Uh through you, Mr. Mayor. I mean, I I
think it's it's a good point and I
appreciate the comments. Um
part of the the feedback that we did
receive through the engagement was that
people wanted to live in the downtown.
So that that's reflected in the plan
right now. We also have to keep in mind
that um by increasing um some of the
population in the downtown that's going
to support the businesses is going to
attract more more businesses as well. Um
there is a possibility obviously we're
going to have to be tracking our numbers
over time. So, we do need to um once we
have our official plan in place, we're
going to be monitoring and tracking how
growth is occurring, where it's
occurring, making sure that we have the
appropriate infrastructure. Um and
that's being rolled out at the same time
as well. So, um typically an official
plan, a brand new official plan under
the act is reviewed at a 10-year mark. I
would suggest that we check in at the
5year mark. Um and we have a continuous
monitoring program where we're reporting
to council on um different uh KPIs.
>> Thank you. Um
we keep talking about downtown as if we
have only one downtown.
Uh we do have two downtowns
and the businesses over on the
Casablanca area. There's probably as
many or more businesses in the
Casablanca area than there is in
downtown over here. And so we need to
ensure that we include that language in
our in our official plan. I mean because
I live down there now so I hear it all
the time. So whenever I go down walk
across the street for pizza, whatever
the case might be, I'm listening to the
merchants and they're not recognized as
being a downtown even though we call
them aby on the lake
downtown. So I mean I just want to make
sure we we kind of fit them into this
puzzle as well. Uh a couple of
questions. Um,
do we have a deadline for submission of
the official plan? Is there a deadline
that is legislated to us by the by
Queens Park or
>> uh through you Mr. Mayor? Uh, so based
on the legislation, we are supposed to
have our our plan in conformity with um
with pol provincial policy and I guess
the regional official plan within a year
of the region approving it. But that um
is now been downloaded to us. So, we now
have the Niagara official plan as well.
Getting our plan approved um as soon as
possible puts us in a in a good position
having clear um direction and um policy
that's in conformity with provincial um
direction, provincial plans um and uh
legislation will put us in in a much
better position. It will also allow us
to undertake the work that we need to do
in terms of community design guidance
and updating our zoning bylaw and all of
the other tools that would support the
official plan. So, I would say that
technically under the act, the
legislation is a year after a regional
plan is approved, but we're we're past
that and we now actually have the
regional plan. Um, I I would say it is
important to get the plan approved as
soon as possible
>> in this term.
One final one final question. Um, if we
don't pass the official plan, if it if
it doesn't if we can't agree and it
doesn't get passed, can we operate
without an official plan? I mean, is how
complicated is that? And that's my final
question, Mr. Mayor.
>> Uh, through you, Mr. Mayor. So we are we
are operating with an official plan. It
will the current official plan that we
have that was adopted by council in 2009
and approved by the OM in 2012
um will remain in place until the the
new official plan is approved by uh the
minister.
>> Thank you Kristen and thanks to your
staff. I know you guys have put a huge
amount of work into this. Thank you so
much. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Councelor
Vardy.
>> Uh thank you through you Mr. Mayor. Uh,
a couple of questions. Um, somewhere in
there, the u you you had a number of
sort of a population number for
downtown, a number that that you wanted
to hit for downtown. I can't remember
which slide that it was on.
>> Oh, it's you, Mr. Mayor.
So we have uh persons and jobs um uh
allocated for the downtown
[clears throat] 125
>> 125
>> persons and jobs
>> per hectare
>> per hectare.
>> Okay. And do you know what it is now?
[clears throat] Because I guess what I'm
going where I'm going with all this is
um you know we have the Wolverton that's
going up. We have Century condos that
are almost done. We have [snorts]
something that's going to go up on John.
Not sure how high, how big, whatever,
because it hasn't come to us yet. Um
although we've we've had big numbers put
forward that are kind of pie in the sky.
>> [snorts]
>> Um, so I'd like to know with what is
coming uh on very shortly, um, are we
going to be are we going to be hitting
that mark fairly soon, that 125 per
hector? Do we know what we are today and
what we will be with those three
properties? and then sort of just to
give us a sense of how much more
>> [snorts]
>> um growth in the downtown that that we
are kind of envisioning
um to meet that kind of number
>> through you Mr. Mayor. Um I think that's
the direction we can take forward. I
don't have the exact number of how where
we are as persons and jobs per hector
and how much persons and jobs per hector
with the pipeline as it is.
>> Yes.
>> So, uh yeah, that's
>> so that's that's one thing I'd like to
know. Um the second thing is do we have
an area of intensification
down by the new school?
because there's lots of property there
and [snorts]
you know that's where you're going to
see families want to be located near a
school that that we should have an area
of intensification
for that area not just sort of not just
downtown not just GO station it should
there should be one there as well
>> uh thank you for those comments for you
Mr. there. So down by the the new West
Niagara Secondary School, if that that's
the school you're you're speaking of, I
I assume. [laughter]
Um there it is identified as a node. Um
so that was um part of the comments that
UT made about the employment area along
um Qua Trail. Um it does it is part of
the the corridor. So we will see some
intensification along um the main street
corridor and within that that node area
there is um a higher persons and jobs
per hector along the the corridor and
within the nodes than the rest of the
neighborhood area.
>> So why don't we um make it similar to
what we're envisioning for downtown
because that's kind of another sub area
that [snorts] definitely could be
developed.
I I worry that a note is not enough.
[snorts]
>> And then sorry,
>> did you want to respond to that or
>> I Yeah, I can. Yes. Uh thank you. Thank
you, Mr. Mayor. Uh so, uh my
understanding is that the the
intensification areas were identified as
the protected major transit station area
around the GO and the downtown. Um and
that was through intensification work
that was done previously prior to this
current um draft of the official plan.
Um as well as a health health center
area. Um
I I don't believe that that was ever
identified by the consultants or
directed by council to investigate um a
center area around the the new uh high
school.
>> I think it's worth looking at. Um, and
then the I I guess the last thing, you
know, that you're saying, well, you
know, we'll make the zoning for downtown
eight stories
and [snorts] people would need a, you
know, like a ZBA to to go higher.
[snorts] But
we know we know if you say eight,
developers are going to want 10. If you
say six, they'll probably reach for
eight. If you say 12, they'll want 14.
So I think I [snorts] I think we should
cap it at a lower number, not eight,
because we know
when developers see
see eight, they see 10 or more. So I
think we really need to bring it down so
that that that area of like give and
take on the town's part um shrinks a
little bit because I I think we know we
know we just like to have six but we
also [snorts] know if anybody goes to
OLT they're going to get whatever they
want. So at least if we c it at six
you know that's going to be harder to
make a a case for 10. So, um, I vote in
favor of bringing that number down.
That's it for me.
>> Councelor Sharwa,
>> uh, through your mayor Jordan. Thank
you. So, I'm going to thank the
counselors that have identified the
number one issue that I'm going to ask
for is for us to cap the downtown at
six. Um, no clauses, no opportunity for
12, nothing. Absolutely nothing more
than six. Unless it like 8 is like the
absolute highest. I don't even want to
see that. I' I'd prefer it to be six.
Um, but no no um opportunity to um allow
for 12 or anything above six. Um, and I
would say we we keep hearing the same
thing. It's it's the downtown. And like
I've been talking about this since we
started. I was disappointed to see that
this 12 stories was still after all of
the talks and all of the comments and
the the feedback from the community that
we're still having this on the third
draft. There's been so many
improvements, but this is one that is
going to haunt us forever. So, I this is
one that I'm going to ask that when we
um this comes to council on July 16th
that we have the um we have it split so
that we're approving the all the
different areas um because this one I
don't think council will agree to um
which I'm very happy to hear because
that is definitely the um the talk of W
three residents and I would say just the
community as a whole. So, um, that's my
thought on that one. Um, [snorts] just
with the language, um, and I've spoken
with about this before, I'd like it to
be stricter. Um, and we have we have
made improvements with the shoods and
shells. Um, priority being that the the
language surrounding density, stories,
um, and parkland are very clear. I I
don't want any ambiguity in that
language. If we're talking the aesthetic
piece, um that, you know, professional
opinion, you know, that part I will
leave to staff. Um but I I feel like,
you know, there there should be some
certainty like um Bridget had said for
the community. So I would just like to
tighten up any of those little uh gray
areas. Um
in the one section it says that uh a
future affordable and attainable housing
strategy may establish additional
policies. So my fear here is if we've
built this in that the
um the provincial government is going to
come up with some wishy-washy policy to
allow um something that is not
attainable, call it attainable and add
more stories. So um again this is
something that professional opinion if
you can just tighten that up so that
that is not an opportunity um for extra
density under affordable housing that
will not actually be affordable housing.
Um and last comment uh actually sorry
one more um
so we're going to grow another 20,000.
We have a part-time fire uh firefighting
uh department right now. Is there sorry
is there another fire department that's
built into this when we have to go to
full-time?
Kirsten,
>> uh thank you for the question through
you, Mr. Mayor. So we have been
consulting with all staff departments
including uh fire and um my
understanding is that that is part of
their um I guess overall plan for
obviously ensuring there's appropriate
coverage for the community. Uh so we
have had those discussions with the fire
department. We um through the uh
official plan there is uh policy
direction for community service
facilities and providing um those
opportunities. Uh those are ongoing
discussions though.
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh and just last
comment, can you just walk us through
your your communication with the
provincial government because you know a
lot of times there's um and and I I I I
do blame the the province a little bit
for this. They will pretend as though
it's this is all the municipality when
we know it's really the province. So
here we have an opportunity and I know
that you guys have gone back and forth
with the province and you've you've
helped them. um they've given guidance
as far as what that they would like to
see and when this is approved I want us
to go back to the province again and say
hey uh reminder this is what you've
approved we don't want to see this come
to the OOLT and and people get their way
after so can you just like walk us
through the communications right now so
people are clear that uh it's actually
the province that told you to do a lot
of this so we can hold them accountable
if developers later go to the OOLT. Even
though this is a super progressive plan,
we're going to hold them accountable so
that their appointed representatives are
not going to approve these OOLT
applications and appeals.
Uh thank you for the question through
you, Mr. Mayor. So, our official plan is
required to be in conformity with
provincial um legislation, policy, and
all of the provincial plans that are
applicable for the town of Grimby. Um
so, that is the case. um we've been
incorporating that direction. We've
incorporated incorporated the direction
from the Niagara official plan as well
um through our engagement process. So we
do have to send the plan to the province
for their um the review. The Ministry of
Municipal Affairs and Housing um does a
one- window review for us. So they reach
out to all the other ministries and
provides the comments in a consolidated
format to us. Um those are all included
in the the package. um the long packages
that Lauren was very uh gracious to put
together and include in um the report
that provides the details of the
comments that were received and how
they've been incorporated. We've had
several comments or sorry uh meetings
with them and conversations with how
we've incorporated the comments where
we've had um questions or we've needed
further clarification. We've uh reached
out to them um in particular with the
secondary plans. I know that's been a
hot topic of discussion with the
community. Um we wanted to ensure that
there was policy that remains in the
plan to provide direction that's going
to um to uh support the Grimby Beach and
that does recognize all the work that's
gone into um creating that secondary
plan and ensuring those policies uh
remain and exist within our official
plan. We uh did not want to run into the
issue of sending a plan with the
secondary plan and having that removed
by the province before it's approved or
um the issue of having our old official
plan remain in place so that the
secondary plan policies um can continue
um because then that could create
confusion between um various plans. So
the the path forward was to incorporate
the policy to ensure there's policy
direction within when the within the
plan. So we we do know that um we have a
little bit of opportunity to talk with
the province about how we're making
those changes and getting their
guidance. Once we send it to them, they
are the approval authority. Um we will
be in a better position as I mentioned
earlier that having a clear consistent
um and up-to-date uh plan that's in line
with provincial policy will put us in a
good position uh for any future
development applications.
>> Thank you, Kirsten. Thank you everybody.
Councelor
Christeni.
>> Thank you through you, Chair. Um, thank
you very much for um some of the the
heights you've already reduced in
particular in the Magnolia
uh Gage Cedar James area. Um reducing
that from six to three. I I think that's
a great decision. Um I'm still not happy
with downtown. Um I'll tell you my
concerns. Uh I feel like eight is still
too high. I feel like it should be
capped at six. I feel like there should
be no clause for 12 whatsoever. Um the
province already allows increased height
and density for affordable or rental, I
believe. So if it's capped at six,
there's already that sort of provincial
allowance. Uh I feel like eight is still
too high. Um Main Street I would like to
see capped at four. Uh no allowance to
six whatsoever. I think in keeping with
the heritage, Main Street itself should
be capped at four. Um, language. I hear
the delegates and I absolutely love what
Bridget said. I wrote it down. What
residents want what is expected, not
encouraged. And I think clear direction
and clear language is is uh clearly
something that residents want to see in
this official plan.
Um, tree canopy. So, uh, I've had
residents, uh, bring up that they would
like to see, uh, tree canopy policy
within the official plan. I believe Town
of Pelum has it. We sit, if I remember
correctly, at about 5% of a tree canopy
where 30% is a healthy. So, um, I know
that residents would like to see
something like that in the official
plan. And
Grimby Beach. Okay, I won't go over what
everybody's already said, but what
[laughter] I will say, we've had many
conversations about this. What I would
like to request is release of the
communication with the province. I think
that it's not that people don't believe
you. It's just I think that because
other municipalities are keeping
secondary plans and there's a lot of
information out there. Ford Erie I think
has theirs. Nagon Lake is you know
submitting but keeping and I think
that's creating a lot of the confusion
and sort of that uneasiness about it.
And I think if we could sort of release
where the province has told us this is
what we want to see then residents will
will feel a little more comfortable um
with that. I'm not sure if that's
possible or we could communicate with
them to to let us know. Um that is
something that I would like to see.
>> Thank you uh councelor Dvo.
>> Thank you Mayor Jordan. Uh most of the
comments have been made and I will say
that I agree with them. Um but I would
just like some clarification from our
director of planning about the 12
stories and I know we keep coming
circling back but is it the province who
is setting those guidelines saying 12
stories or is that's
just a number we came up with? Maybe you
can just give us some background and how
it ties into the provincial policies.
Uh thank you for the question and
through you Mr. Mayor. Uh so the um the
12 stories came about looking at the uh
the built form of the um the official
plan. So we had included policies that
spoke to mid-rise within the downtown um
and particularly the downtown
neighborhood area. Within that mid-rise,
it um it allowed for up to 12 stories.
Um, in receiving the comments from uh
from the first draft and the second
draft of the official plan, um, we
looked at ways that we could ensure that
we were um, developing or seeing
appropriate development within the
downtown neighborhood area and that's
where we came with up with the the
policy direction that would allow for
growth and development within that area.
Um, and have those performance measures
that would be applied through a
development application in the future.
Uh, I think it's important to to
remember as well that the downtown
neighborhood area does apply to three
different areas of our downtown overall
downtown district within the um
secondary uh sorry the official plan got
the secondary plan on my my brain. Um
the official plan uh and that's includes
like south of Main Street along Elm
Street. It includes up Ontario Street in
the John Street area and then it also
includes the um plaza uh the so Canadian
Tire Plaza with the the former central
school site as well. So looking at a
policy framework that's going to support
growth and development on all three of
those downtown neighborhood
designations.
So, as followup to that, I
I think for many of us, as we get
farther away from the core of downtown,
between Christian Elm, I'll say, we
probably become a little more
comfortable with more stories. Um, but
not within the immediate downtown.
Um,
and so I guess I'm still circling back
to the 12. you know, if we
if we get challenged by the by a
developer and they say, "Well, we still
meet your exceptional criteria and we
should still have 12." Um, do you think
that the province would be supportive,
more supportive of 12 than if we simply
kept it at 8 or six or whatever the
number is we come up with?
>> Uh, through you, Mr.
I think that's a difficult thing to to
respond to at this point in time because
I don't know what the the application
would be or the context. What I can say
is that we would have a [snorts] a
current official plan in place that
provides policy uh direction and
guidance for growth in specific areas.
Um it would come down to what the
development is, what supporting
information they provide um and how it
it meets the overall intent of the
official plan. So it's it is really
important that we don't look at in
individual policies. You do have to read
the official plan in its entirety and
apply every policy that applies to the
the specific um property or area. Um so
they would have to demonstrate that it
is it does meet the overall intent of
the official plan and like I said
earlier um we have identified both the
protected major transit station area and
the downtown as intensification areas.
Although obviously the protected major
transit station area is going to be a
higher density and a more intense
development that's going to support the
GO station.
I think my concern is that you similar
to my fellow counselors that when we
leave 12 out there, of course, then
a potential developer comes along and
tries to find [snorts] every argument
they can to meet the criteria that we
have set for exceeding eight and going
up to 12. Um, and even if we restrict it
to aid, I I think I my concern is still
will the province come back even in the
review of our official plan and say,
well, aid is simply too low. You need to
change this, this, and this. Um, and so
do you have any I I guess I'll try and
summarize my question and my concern. Do
you have any uh concerns or thoughts of
what the provincial reaction will be to
an official plan that does and maxes out
at six or eight and does not allow 12 at
all?
>> Uh through you, Mr. Mayor. I I do think
the province does recognize that there
are different contexts um for official
plans because each official plan is um
based on the requirements of that local
municipality. Um, I don't I don't know
that they would um look at specific
building heights as long as overall
we're achieving our direction of
accommodating growth, accommodating
employment, ensuring that we have a mix
of um built form and different types of
housing um that we have opportunities to
accommodate that growth. I I think
that's the overall direction that the
province is looking for.
>> Thank you. Councelor
Bradzy.
>> Thank you, Mayor Surio. I just wanted to
to ask for a little clarity on the uh
the process. So, is it once council
approves the official plan that it goes
to the review period with the the
minister
and can uh can the minister reject our
official plan?
>> Uh through you, Mr. Mayor. So once
council adopts the official plan, uh we
do have to send the record. So that's a
required information to the province. Um
and then it goes uh to their staff for
review. It is posted um on the ERO. So
it is open for any public input as well.
So they will receive any comments or um
submissions from from residents or um
organizations through that process. and
then the um the minister would be making
a decision on our official plan.
>> Okay. And lastly, I I won't uh repeat
any of the downtown comments, but I
agree. But do we uh do do we at all fear
that the minister would reject it or how
do we feel about how they would stand
with what with where we're currently at
draft three?
>> Uh three, Mr. Mayor. Sorry, I I realized
that I forgot to answer that part of the
question. Uh so the uh the ministry will
modify the plan as they see um
appropriate to implement any uh um
conformity requirements for um the
official plan with provincial
legislation or policy. Um I don't see
[clears throat] them rejecting the
official plan because I do think that it
provide it is implementing in its
current form right now is implementing
the direction and requirements of the
province.
>> Councelor How?
Thank you through uh through you, chair.
Um
on page 16, I believe it of your report
u there's a mention there of the
cannabis and hemp.
Can we
if we've got an opportunity to tighten
that up maybe a little bit more? So
Lauren,
>> I just uh through you, Mr. Mayor. Uh
thank you so much for the question. And
I I wanted to speak to that
specifically. Um I would say that the
policy set uh actually has been um
tightened pretty considerably. Um not
only does it speak to cannabis, but it
also speaks to industrial hemp um as
well as uh lists a number of other
requirements and uh I believe management
plans as well uh that would be required.
So even based off of the the current
policies that are in the current plan,
this is actually a tightening I see of
those policies.
>> Okay. to to follow up on that. It's my
understanding that the one right by
that's feeding the high school like into
the that wasn't very nice. Uh as it
could be uh that could be taken away
with the proper fan ventilation systems
uh that were not put in there were w
were required. But there is a way it can
be handled. it it can be handled that
that the skunk smell but there has to be
a a willingness on the part of whoever
pro goes ahead with it but it is noxious
and it is not very pleasant and um leave
it that we mentioned a campground as
well have we got a campground
>> uh through you Mr. Mayor. Um, yes. So,
we there are a number of uh private
campgrounds that already exist in the
town. That's a use that's already
permitted through the current official
plan. So, uh, as we were reviewing, we
uh we realized that we wanted to ensure
that that permission could still be
there.
>> Going to have It's interesting. But
lastly, I guess, and I'll have my kick
at the uh at the stories. Um, and I
confirmed with Kirsten, my house where
it sits is right on the edge. It could
be 12 stories at my house.
And
you know when you come to that
realization you go
that's just a whole lot because I mean
that probably to about the escarment
height um just so far out of um but the
context of the town and what you want
the town and try to keep it like that.
Uh, so
I have trouble even with six on that
side of Elm Street. And that's not
because I can make money off my property
because I'll be dead before I even
anybody does that down in there. So um
no don't you hope
>> anyways uh you know it's it is it comes
you know when we talk about the base of
the escarment um I know that been the
sun in Sydney and Sydney is like that
and but it's happened over time uh but
they don't go real high they go fours
and sixes along there makes quite a from
but they stay away from that. They bring
them away from the escar and I would see
no reason whatsoever to ever put
something along the base of the
escarment. So that's uh that's about it.
But Lauren, thank you very much.
Kirsten, thank you very much. You guys
have nailed it.
>> Councelor Garcani.
>> Thank you chair. I just wanted to touch
on um the employment area in uh both
downtown and downtown Ginsby on the
lake. Um so in the downtown area, the
innovation area is a maximum of 10
stories. Um and that's in like the
Ontario, Clark Street, Lincoln Avenue. I
feel like that's way too much density
for that area. um really dangerous
traffic area and I feel like adding that
height there doesn't fit and it doesn't
um it won't be safe. Um I'd like to see
that height swapped with the downtown
Grisby on the lake area though because
they have the same employment areas. Uh
but their maximum is only four to six
stories and they're um there's a
division of the rail the railway tracks
between the neighborhood so it's not
going to affect the neighborhood beside
it and uh and on the other side the
maximum is 22 stories. So I feel like
the height of 10 stories in the Ginsby
on the lake uh density area would fit
better and just swapping the height with
uh the one downtown to the maximum of
six and then having the other one 10
All right. And uh seeing no further
questions, uh we can make that decision
to change the uh downtown
to six with a resolution right now and
give council direction.
>> Yeah, I'd be happy to do that.
>> Can we have main street? Just no.
>> You have to make an amendment.
>> We've got uh councelor Vardy second.
Councelor Sharw moving it.
>> You can read it out if they want to
make.
>> Yeah, I'll read it out. And if uh we
want to make an amendment, that's up to
council. Resolve that council direct
staff that the height be no more than
six stories in the downtown district and
staff provide details of any
implications to this change in the final
recommendation.
So, we happy with that.
>> Do you want me to build Do we want to
add in review the downtown employment
areas for building heights?
>> Yeah, we could do that. We could review
the downtown employment area and
building Heights as well. That could be
added in.
>> So, I'd like that. Plus, I just like
Main Street.
>> Thank you, Chair. Um, yeah, I'd like to
see the employment area capped because
if we're capping at six, we don't want
to be going up to 10. Um, but the other
thing I'd like to see Main Street itself
remain at a four a fourstory height
limit.
Are you're okay with that? Great.
So,
>> well, I have to read it as amended now.
So,
And sorry, can we also do this as a
recorded vote as well? Is it possible?
Thank you.
>> Go ahead
>> through your mayor. So I I agree with
six stories in what we consider the
traditional downtown. Uh, so anything
Ontario Street, Christy, uh, you know,
that area we have there are I think
Kirstston spoke to it. I I I the um
Canadian Tire Plaza and the old central
public school site that in order for
that site to be worthy of redevelopment
might require higher density. So, I
don't know if we want to make an
exception for that site or not because I
I believe that that's considered part of
the downtown and not something that
we're I don't think that I I'm speaking
for me. That's not something that I
think of when I think of the downtown. I
I I think that those are sites that are
appropriate for higher density and would
require higher higher density in order
for redevelopment to occur. So, um I I
think that that needs to be an
exception. And I think that we need to
define what we mean by the downtown. I I
agree with Council Gangi about four
stories on Main Street. I agree with six
stories. That's why I brought it up in
the first place. But there are a couple
of sites that we need to be flexible on.
And I think that those sites are ones
that we might want to leave out.
>> Councelor Defoy, do you have a comment
on this resolution?
I I was just going to agree with that.
That's what I was sort of alluding to
before when I say as we get farther out
from the core of the downtown, I am more
amendable to adding more stories. So
maybe the wording of the resolution
needs to be just to refer it back to
staff to look at that uh suggestion that
we have and then to come back to us in
the next draft.
Councelor Sh,
>> I'm I'm fine with counsel uh with uh
councelor DeFlavio's um point for the
for that [snorts] uh specific area, but
I just want to I don't know if we can do
this almost separately. I don't know if
that would help um so that we define the
sixtory cap um the other area, but I
don't know if that's through a friendly
amendment. I just want to make sure that
that part is is not referred back to
staff.
>> The cler's just working right now. So,
councelor Frank.
>> No, I just wanted to suggest Mr. mayor
that if if we pass a if we pass a
general motion, we just might leave
something out that we need to put in
and if we if we make it too general, I
mean, I think I think pass said sending
it back to staff to have a look at if
there's a pocket of areas like that that
we can exclude and
we might box ourselves in.
Councelor Shawa.
>> Um, so again, I don't know if it would
be helpful to separate this as two
separate motions because I I agree if if
the second part if we want to bring that
to staff. I just want to make sure that
the sixtory clause is separate and
that's dealt with today if that's
possible. But I'm
>> that
you don't know what the other areas
might look like.
>> You might include some of the areas.
Yeah, if if we if we passed the motion
you're talking about, we could have an
area in there which could qualify in the
same instance as what council deflavy
was talking about. That's what I'm
saying. So that's why I think staff
needs to look at it and see if there's a
pocket or two of another areas in there
which might qualify to go to the higher
heights. We just have to be very careful
we don't box oursel in. That's all I'm
saying.
All
right. So if we split it into two, we
have uh the first part with resolve that
council direct the height
be no more than six stories in the
downtown district and four stories on
Main Street and staff provide details of
any implications to this change in the
final recommendation. And then if we
split that out, the second part, that
council directs staff to review the
downtown employment areas for building
heights and that council directs staff
to review the PMTSA and downtown
employment areas. So if we have those as
two separate resolutions, council's
happy with that.
>> All right.
Okay. Right.
So, I'll read the the first section
first. Moved by councelor Shawa, second
by councelor Vardy. Resolve that council
direct that the height be no more than
six stories in the downtown districts
and four stories on Main Street and
staff provide details of any
implications to this change in the final
recommendations. Uh, East Gri's been
asked for. So, can we build that way?
All right, that is unanimously approved.
Uh, now our second resolution. Uh, I'll
just keep the same mover and secondary.
Move by councelor Shawwa, a second by
councelor Vardy. resolved that council
direct staff to review the downtown
employment areas for building heights
and also direct staff to review the
PMTSA
and downtown employment areas. Uh use
escribe please to vote for that
Right.
That's carried unanimously as well.
>> All right. Um, we're just going to
receive the report now. Move by
councelor Frank, second by councelor
Devoli, resolve that report PA26-18
provides draft official plan June 2026
dated June 1st, 2026 be received for
information. All in favor? That's
carried.
Can I have a mover and seconder for the
Mountain View Lemonade Day proclamation?
Moved by councelor Frank, second by
councelor Kstani. Whereas family and
children's services fax Niagara has been
dedicated to protecting and supporting
children and improving the lives of
vulnerable children, youth and families
across Niagara Peninsula since 1898. And
whereas Mountain View Building Group and
other generous sponsors are supporting
Fax Niagara Foundation in these efforts
by encouraging children and families to
give back to their community by
registering online and setting up
lemonade stands across the town of
Ginsby and the Niagara region on
Saturday, June 13th, 2026. And whereas
Mountain View Building Group and other
great community sponsors have generously
pro provided 100 Lemon a Day kits so
every family and child can have the
resources needed to successfully
participate and so that all the funds
raised by children go directly to
sending vulnerable children supported by
Fax Niagara to summer camps. And whereas
by instilling the values of community,
generosity, and goodwill in the next
generation, Mountain View Building Group
and other generous sponsors are helping
build a brighter future for Niagara. And
whereas the town of Ginsby commends the
hundreds of young citrus squeezing
children for their philanthropy and hard
work, generosity, goodwill, and for
making our community a much better place
to live. Therefore, be it resolved that
I, Mayor Jeff Jordan, do hereby proclaim
June 13, 2026 as Mountain View Lemonade
Day for Fax Niagara in the town of
Ginsby. Be it further resolved that
council hereby encourages children of
Ginsby to participate in the annual
Mountain View Lemon A Day for Fax
Niagara and encourages all citizens of
Ginsby to support these children in
their efforts by generously donating in
person or online to the Mountain View
Lemonade Day stands and help many
children as many children from the
Niagara region to experience summer camp
in 2026. All in favor? That's carried.
I would now like to take a moment to
recognize Niagara's 2SLGBTQ
plus communities and acknowledge pride
Niagara's leadership in fostering safe
uh safer and more inclusive spaces,
strengthening social connection,
providing outreach and education
and advancing local advoc advocacy
through the throughout the region. Pride
Month is not just a celebration. is a
powerful reminder of the progress we
have made in embracing the beautiful
tapestry of identities that make our
community thrive. It is time to honor
the struggles and triumphs of the 2LGBTQ
plus community and reaffirm our
commitment to diversity, inclusion, and
acceptance. Thank you, Pride Niagara,
for all the work that you do for the
residents of Niagara. Today, let us
celebrate diversity, promote acceptance,
and foster a town where love knows no
boundaries. Together we can create a
future where everyone can live
authentically and proudly. Thank you and
happy Pride Month. Can I have a mover
and second to receive the
correspondence? Moved by councelor
Frank, second by councelor Bardy.
Resolved that the correspondence from
Pride Niagara be received. All in favor.
That's carried.
Can I have a mover and seconder for the
confirming bylaw? Moved by councelor
How. Second by councelor Kstani resolved
that Lee begin to introduce bylaw 26-37
and that same be read a first time
considered and passed. All in favor?
That's carried.
Good evening everyone. Meeting is
adjourned. Have a good night.