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Committee Approves Highway 15 Expansion - Planning Committee
Kingston · March 28, 2026
Good kneading number one. It's now a 6 p. m.
So we'll begin. If you can have your seats. Looking
at you, Paul. The meeting being held tonight, our public
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evening. Each application in the community meeting report will be
presented individually and following each presentation by the applicant. The
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recommendation and the recommendation is typically to approve with conditions
or to deny. After the planners presentation, committee, members will
be able to ask questions of staff followed by members
of the public following the question and answer period. This
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planner. So I'll now call the Community Meeting to Order.
The purpose of the Community Meeting is to provide the
applicant with an opportunity to present a potential development proposal
in the early stages of the development process and to
seek feedback from the public and members of Planning Committee.
Anyone who attends a community meeting may present an oral
submission and or provide a written submission on the proposals
being presented. The first application is for 368 Retaw Street.
I invite the applicant to present the proposal.
Thank you. Hello and through the chair. My name is
Nolan Adeberry and I'm a planner at Foten Playing InDesign.
I'm joined by my colleague Kelsey Jones, who's a senior
planner at Foten. Photen has been retained by BPE development
incorporate to present the minor zoning biomendment application at 368
REDO Street. The site has an area of approximately 1,
545 square metres with approximately 29. 6 metres of frontage
on Rideau Street. The property is currently developed with a
1 and 2 story mixed use commercial and residential building
containing 13 residential units and commercial space closest to Rito
Street. Access to the site is provided from REDO Street
with the entirety of the site's front yard being paved.
As you can see in these images, the top image
shows the front of the building with the commercial portion
closest to Rito Street. You will also notice that there
is a significant grade change from the front to the
rear of the property. Which is why this building is
considered a one and two story building. The bottom right
image shows the main residential entrance to the residential units.
The CAI is located in the Inner Harbour neighbourhood. And
the surrounding area consists of a mix of residential employment
and commercial and community facility uses. The size immediately adjacent
to residential uses to the south, the cating soccer field
to the north and west, and the unopened road allowance
of River Street directly to the east of the site
across Rideau Street. The site is within walking distance to
bus routes along Montreal Street, transit in active transportation infrastructure,
including the KNP trail. The site is well located to
accommodate residential intensification due to the proximity to parks and
open spaces, commercial and community facility uses in transit. The
site is currently designated residential in the city of Kingston
official plan, which is intended for a broad range of
residential uses, including low, mid, and high - rise residential
buildings on full municipal services. The site is currently zoned
urban residential zone five, which permits a house, a semi
- detached, and it sent me detached house in a
townhouse. Notably, the current zoning does not permit an apartment
building on the site. The intent of the minor zoning
bylaw amendment is to convert the existing commercial unit and
commercial storage space at the front of the building to
accommodate eight new residential units, increasing the total number of
residential units on the site from 13 to 21. The
pro's application will also include reconfiguring the site's front yard
to provide initial landscape space and amenity area. The pros
changes to the front yard will ensure that vehicle entrances
to the site are appropriately defined in delineated and provide
an accessible parking space and defined pedestrian walkways to access
building entrances. A minor zoning bylaw amendment is required to
rezone the site from the urban residential five zone to
the urban residential zone two to permit department building. The
proposed minor zoning bioamend will also establish an exception overlay
on the site to address site - specific performance standards
related to existing setbacks. The location of walkways, dry vial
width, the location of parking, proportion of small car parking
spaces provided and amenity area dimensions. In summary, the proposed
minor zoning bylaw amendment represents good planning as it will
facilitate the conversion of an existing underutilized commercial space to
provide eight new residential units within the existing building and
improves a functionality of the site. The proposed development promotes
residential intensification within an existing building on a property in
proximity to transit parks and open space, commercial and community
facility uses, and active transportation infrastructure. Which is consistent with
a provincial planning statement and conforms the city of Kingston
official plan. Thank you, and Kelsey and I will be
available following the presentation to answer any questions you may
have. Okay, thank you very much. We'll turn to the
public portion. Are there any members of the public in
the attendance wishing to speak. Okay, go ahead, state your
name and you have five minutes. Traction Dixon. Thank you
for the presentation. Um, fairly familiar with The Neighbourhood. Walked
by there and cycle. I'm used to golf at Belle
Park Fairways. Um. So right now you have commercial on
the top facing Reduil Street directly and residential and behind.
It's my first question. Um, found elements of the presentation
a little confusing. Will the commercial usage end of this
application is approved. And I would really like to see
more in the way of detail. On how the residential
aspects of the property are laid out. It sounds like
you have like a one and two story. So do
you really have 13 residential units in the back there.
I mean, that's not a parent at all. Just walking
on the street. I was unaware of that there was
any, uh, residential there at all. So you're going to
increase. The residential element of the property by a
boat's correct. Or maybe 60 percent is more accurate. So
I'd just like to see how the residential is laid
out. I think that's important because we're looking at, um,
basically as long change to take it into an apartment
building status. And your slides didn't really provide that, nor
did you explain it. At least from my satisfaction in
your presentation. So at this point, um, I'm undecided because
I don't have that kind of detail. Um, why do
you have like bachelors, one bedroom, two bedroom. Didn't have
any of that. I think the presentation. Is, I almost
see incomplete in terms of, you know, I don't really
want to speak for the committee, but if I were
on the committee, I would want to have much more
on that. So I'm putting that on the record. As
being important. And I'm going to reserve my, um, opinion
on it. Until I hear more. Thank you. Thank you
very much. Um, I don't think anyone else is in
the room. Is there anyone online. Wishing to speak. To
368 Retaw Street. Razorversal hand and
zoom. If you wish to speak to 368 Rideau Street.
Seeing as none. Okay. So we'll move on to the
committee or do any committee members have any questions. Oh,
sorry. I forgot. Um, yeah, so you can answer the
questions. Thank you. Uh, and
through the chair, um, I can confirm that, uh, correct
the front portion of the building is currently commercial. And
it is proposed to be completely converted to a residential
building. So there will be no more commercial use. In
the building. Um, I can provide a little bit more
detail on the, on the residential layout. So you're correct
that there are 13 existing residential units in the rear
of the building. Um, it is quite a, uh, a
deceptively deep sight if you walk the site. And those
existing 13 residential units are mostly one bedroom units. The
eight proposed units, uh, will provide, uh, a total of
seven two bedroom units in the front portion of the
building. Um, split between the top floor and the bottom
floor of that front current currently commercial portion. And then
one existing two bedroom unit in the existing residential portion
will be converted into two one bedroom units. Yeah. Thank
you. All right. So now we'll move on to the
committee members. Any committee members have any questions. Go ahead.
Thank you. Um, I didn't see too many issues with
the actually development and the proposal. I do have one
though. Um, not so much directly with the building itself,
but more in regards to the residents current living at
the site. What kind of impact will it have on
the current residence and what kind of mitigating factors we
have to prevent that such as noise and dust and
other factors from construction. Thank you. And through the chair.
I can confirm that the current commercial portion that is
to be converted is currently vacant. So there are no,
no units, um, that will be removed through this, through
this conversion. Um, the existing commercial unit and commercial storage
area is separated from the existing residential portion of the
building by a concrete block wall and functions as an
independent commercial unit with its own exterior accesses. That is
to say it doesn't share a hallway with the existing,
uh, residential units. So it's anticipated that all construction work
occurring in this front section of the building will be
mostly isolated and mitigated through that separation between the front
and the back of the, of the building. Um, it's
also anticipated that the concrete wall, which divides the existing
front portion of the building from the rear could provide
some noise mitigation, uh, for the construction related impacts that
any dust or odours would be mostly concentrated in that,
that front area, which really functions separately. From the rear
residential portion. With respect to the conversion of unit nine,
which is the two bedroom unit in the existing residential
portion, which is proposed to be converted to two one
bedroom units. This unit is located directly beside an exterior
door on the building's north side. So that will hopefully
allow contractors to access that unit without having to walk
too far through the building, um, for the purposes of
caring materials. Um, which will hopefully reduce any sort of,
um, construction impacts in that way. Um, I'll also finally
note that construction is anticipated to occur during daytime hours
in accordance with the city's noise bylaws. And notice we'll
be provided to existing residents in advance of any construction
works occurring. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else have any questions.
Seeing as none. We will move on. So the second
item is the administrative amendments to Kingston zoning bylaw 2022
- 62. And I invite staff to present.
Good evening. And through the chair, my name is Malcolm
Norwood and I am supervisor in development approvals here at
the city of Kingston. I'm here to talk tonight about
everyone's favourite topic. Administrative amendments to the zoning bylaw.
So I'm here to present a series of minor amendments
to the zoning bylaw and receive feedback from this committee
and members of the public. We are hoping that this
feedback can continue to help refine our zoning bylaw so
that we can implement our official plans development policies. While
trying to streamline our own development approvals process as much
as possible. First off, a little bit about the Kingston
zoning bylaw 2022 - 62. This is a regulatory document
that applies to all development in the city. It was
passed in 2022 and had the effective amalgamating all of
the former zoning bylaws of the city into one cohesive
document. The city passed significant amendments to the zoning bylaw
in 2024. That implemented innovative housing measures, such as the
Express Transit Overlay and the fourth unit provisions for residential
properties. Today we have a series of what I would
consider minor amendments to the zoning bylaw that represent a
collection of updates that have been identified by staff as
necessary to help provide greater clarity in the document. Reduce
the potential need for variances. And to close potential gaps
and implementation. So many in this room are probably aware
of the ongoing official plan project, so it does beg
the question, why now? The answer is that while 2026
may see the adoption of the city's official plan, it
will still be some time before the zoning bylaw completes
its comprehensive update to implement the new direction that that
official plan provides. The planning act requires zoning bylaws to
be updated to conform with an official plan within three
years of its adoption. And so the proposed amendments reflected
the reality that the zoning bylaw 2022 - 62 will
still be enforced and effect for some period beyond the
adoption of the official plan. So we've tried to group
together the amendments into a few general themes. As we
see them, primarily landing as either adding flexibility, being an
administrative correction or remedying and extraction area whose approvals were
not carried forward into the original 2022 bylaw. So I
will advise we do have a couple word heavy slides
coming up. So please bear with me. Starting off with
the adding flexibility, we're starting in the urban area where
there are some changes that seek to recognise that the
maximum bedroom limits that should not apply to apartment slash
mixed use buildings that are proposed in the Express Transit
Overlay. Already in section 4. 28 of the zoning bylaw,
which is the section that regulates the maximum number of
bedrooms. They do not regulate apartment buildings in the urban
multi - residential zone. But most express transit overlay applications
are located in urban residential zones. The maximum bedroom limits
technically still apply. So while Express Transit applications do secretly
from any different aspects of the zoning by - off
for their development relief from the maximum bedrooms should not
be one of them. Propose changes also include providing encroachment
permissions for architectural features in most zones, such as window
wells, canopies, and awnings that were previously not provided. And
there's also some flexibility in front yards proposed for residential
properties in the form of permitting air conditioning units, heat
pumps, as well as recognising that existing townhouses may need
to utilise their front yard for municipal waste collection bins
with the new larger waistbands that are being adopted over
time. Lastly, staffer intending to engage with heritage services to
try to better align the Barriefield zone with the heritage
permit process to potentially reduce the need for variances when
a heritage permit process is the appropriate process for vetting
the proper height of a building. Other provisions that we
were trying to address are related to accessory structures. By
permitting stretch restructures into legal nonconforming uses and not just
legal noncompling buildings. Currently accessory structures are permitted for legal,
not complying buildings, which are buildings that were legally established
and then had a new quantitative provision in the zoning
ballot that rendered them legal non - conforming. But we're
looking to seek legal accessory structures as being permitted as
a variety to legal nonconforming uses, which are uses that
were established in the zoning bylaw prior to them being
rendered, not permitted. In arterial commercial zones, there are currently
no residential uses that are permitted, but this is not
the case in the official plan, which does provide the
ability for residential uses when they are accessory to a
commercial use. And so we were looking at having being
permitted explicitly in the zoning bylaw as well. Home occupations
is another type of accessory provision that is permitted across
the urban and rural areas. And currently the warning is
restrictive to only having one employee, which we're hoping not
clarified that multiple employees can't exist, but only one employee
of the home occupation can be present at the property
at one time. For the rural area, there are provisions
that relax accessory structured standards, like in the rural residential
zone lots, which are typically rural loss that are under
a hectare in size. But these relaxed accessory structure standards
do not apply to rural - zoned lots that are
also under one hectare. It is proposed that these reduced
accessory structure standards also applied to those rural zone lots
that are under hectare as well. We have also introduced
the idea of farmstands being exempt from the bylaw, which
these are common in the rural area and typically do
not pose a land user's concern, especially when limited in
size. Under the current zoning, they are regulated and require
step backs. That would be prohibited that are success. There
is some flexibility added around replacement standards for private servicing.
As the current wording in the zoning bylaw implies that
replacement septic system can't go closer to water bodies than
their existing setbacks. The revisions that are identified suggests that
it can go closer to a water body, provided that
it still meets the minimum setback that a new system
would have to meet, which is currently 30 metres on
both slots. Lastly, the amendment seek to remove the maximum
30 square metres area for DEX in the rural residential
zone. This is a provision that does see a meaningful
amount of variances for and recognising that the setbacks and
maximum size of 10 percent of the lot area will
still apply. The E's are still the appropriate measures in
place when your properties are not overdeveloped and impact neighbouring
lots. Moving on to the administrative corrections. There are several
changes to the definitions and section of the zoning bylaw.
First, the definition of an apartment building is proposed to
be tweaked to specify that the number of units is
relevant to a determination of an apartment building. Which currently
is just defined as a residential building that is otherwise
not defined in the zoning bylaw. This could result in
an interpretation of a lower density building. That is not
intended for an apartment building. New definitions are proposed for
a perimeter foundation in terrorists, which are already terms in
the zoning bylaw, which by having definitions will help their
implementation. We'll add transparency to that. At farm stand definition
is also proposed to be implemented in these for these
structures for their exemption in the bylaw. And a few
definitions are proposed to be deleted, such as a bachelor
- dwelling unit, tourism use, which are no longer used
terms used in the provisions of each zone. Amen in
the area provisions are clarified in that the redevelopment clause
is proposed to be added, which stipulates that we're buildings
exist today that are deficient in amenity area, new development
is not meant to make up that deficiency. But instead,
that the new development is in and of itself to
comply with the amenity area provisions. There are similar redevelopment
clauses for parking spaces, bike spaces, loading spaces, and walkways.
And it's appropriate to have this clarified as well within
the amenity area. Secondly, in many areas proposed to be
triggered for five unit apartment buildings instead of four unit
buildings, since most four unit buildings are considered houses, which
don't typically have amenity areas associated with them. Other clarifications
that we're proposing include noting that as of right development
is to occur on lots fronting on an assumed road
by the city. Clarification that terraces are permitted on non
- residential buildings. Clarification that three - unit houses in
the urban multi - residential zone and the HCD -
3 zones are also subject to maximum bedroom limit, since
currently the clause in 4. 28 stipulates that it's only
two units or fewer. Also, there's clarification that existing uses,
section of the newly Instituted Mixed UNES from the North
Kingstown Project are to apply to houses, townhouses, and semi
- detached houses, and not to apartment buildings. Since apartment
buildings, which are permitted in the mixed use zone, should
benefit from the MUN zone provisions that explicitly permit that
use. The next section that we can talk about is
schedule D1, and we're getting into some of the mapping
changes. So Schedule D1 is the second residential unit overlay.
And this is proposed to be repealed in the administrative
amendments. We up on the slide, we do see what
the current schedule D1 does show. We did receive a
memo from Utilities Kingston in November 2025 that indicated that
the mapping and policy set were not no longer accurate
for the current condition of the servicing in the city,
and that we should be repealing this section of the
zoning bylaw. And so this is what you're seeing today.
We have a few administrative corrections to some mineral extraction
areas. Again, as I mentioned at the beginning of this
presentation, that these just were previous approvals that did not
move forward into the amalgamation of the former bylaws. So
we're using the administrative amendment to ultimately rectify this issue
by including them in the amendment. The first is over
on Highway 15, which is the Canadian will astonite mine.
Up on the screen, you'll see that we have the
base general rural zoning that applied to the lot and
on the right hand, you have the exception L169 zoning,
which does permit the extraction. Uh, what we're proposing is
to add the base mineral extraction zone to the RU
zoning, believe the exception in place, which was what the
original approval contemplated. And you can see that in the
current official plan that this is more or less represented
in terms of what the extraction, the approvals for the
extraction of the mineral resource where we'll ask the night
was previously approved. So we're trying to rectify that. Omission
from 2022. The second mineral extraction area is on 3501
Pine Grove Road. Uh, this is the short - all
pit. And we did have past approvals from 2015. For
an OPA official plan amendment and a zoning by Lau
Amendment. And. The zoning approvals were not carried forward in
2022, as you can see on the map. So on
the left you have the official plan mapping, showing the
full extent of the pit with the P located on
it. And on the right - hand side with the
zoning, you do see the two northern and southern portions
that were omitted. And those were the explicit areas that
were contemplated in the 2015 amendment. So overall, that's a
high - level summary of the proposed changes, and I
welcome any questions or comments.
Alright, thank you very much. Uh, so now are there
any members of the public who wish to speak to
this? Okay, yeah, go ahead, state your name and you
have five minutes. So Frank Dixon, thank you Mr. Norwood
for presentation. Um, a couple of points. Now I've written
these down to pass them to the clerk staff directly.
To the system. So my first question has to do
on what you termed as the accessory provisions. Under the
home occupation, um, icon. Stated that only one, a multiple
employees is to be allowed on the site at any
given time. So that's an expansion from the existing situation,
as understand it. Where only one employee is allowed. So
I can appreciate the rationale for this, but it just
seems to be needlessly restrictive. And impractical from the standpoint
of actually running a business on a site. Like you
have one employee who is there from say 8 a.
m. until 5 p. m. And then let's say you're
running another employee coming in at 5 p. m. until
11 p. m. So does the first employee have to
step out of the building. Before the first employee, Shepard
of the Building before the second employee steps in. So
they can't actually discuss anything related to the business on
the site. Inside building. It just seems to be very
impractical and really unenforceable. So I'm supporting the rationale of
this change. I'm just wondering if you could maybe talk
about that. Um, and then my second point has to
do with your section on the mining changes. And civically
on the Canadian Wallace tonight, uh, project. Which I have
seen presented in here. So I'm somewhat familiar with it.
So what I'm wondering is, uh, this change, will this
permit, it's approved. A potentially allow for greater extraction of
the resource. Is that why it's being done. Or I'm
just a little confused as to the rationale for the
change. Thank you. All right, thank you. Um, seeing as
thebody else in the room, is there anyone online who
wishes to speak? Please raise your virtual hand in Zoom
if you want to speak. I'll ask one more time.
Raise your virtual hand and zoom. Okay. So, um, you
can respond to the comments. Great. Thank you for the
questions and through the chair. Uh, in terms of the
home occupation, the current wording in the zoning bylaw is
more restrictive in that it could be interpreted to apply
that only one employee is allowed for the home occupation.
So the shift change that you anecdotally referred to wouldn't
ultimately occur because under the Kern zoning by law, there
would only be allowed to be one employee plus the
owner of the building of the, of the house. Um,
so under the proposed change, we're looking at facilitate the
fact that an owner of a home business may have
more than one employee. And that should change could occur
ultimately. Provided that the nature of the provision is still
intact, which is that, um, only one employee is present
at the property at any given time. I agree that
there would be challenges to enforcing that at the end
of the day home occupations are intended to, um, keep
the predominant residential nature of the property in which they
reside on. And so a minor exchange through a change
of shift as you kind of alluded to. I would
suggest is not impact that intent of the bylaw in
terms of keeping it a predominantly residential, uh, property for
a home occupation. In terms of the Canadian one last
night, really the change is administrative and that's why it
was kind of grouped in terms of the administrative corrections.
The L169 already permits the extraction and were really just
looking to align the base zone with the exception and
the official plan. This is currently, um, the base zone
is for the general rural zone. And we're looking to
have that extraction zone applied as the base in addition
to the L169 exception, which is just more in line
with the past approvals as well as the official plan
designation for that site. So it does not, um, enhance
the extraction ability that was previously contemplated or currently exists.
All right. Thank you very much. Um, so now we'll
move on to the committee members. Is there any committee
members who wish to speak or ask questions Councilloc. Thank
you Mr. Chair through you. Um, yeah, just going back
to Mr. Dixon's question about home business. So I had
a situation in my district where a home business had
five employees working in the basement. And the problem was
that, um, they were all perking on the CODASAC. And
it was, you know, preventing any of the other neighbours
from parking on the CO2SEC as well. So the change
we're making, like that would still be not allowed. Right.
You wouldn't be able to have so many people. It
was still just be like one person and the homeowner
allowed working at a home business at a house residential
house is, is that correct? It took a long time
to resolve this for the neighbourhood. Three, Mr. Chair, that
would be corrected. Still only allow for one employee at
one time, but it would allow the owner to have
multiple employees to work at the business, but just still
one at any given time on the property. Great. Thank
you for clarifying that. And my second question is that
the, um, the big ad we had in the advertised
in the wig, I might've missed this at the beginning,
but it said one of the changes is, um, waste
recuperals in front yards in some situations. So I suppose
that would be our new, well, they're garbage, but they're
grey. So it's our new rolled cart garbage pins and
green bin. So can you just go over that? So
in some situations in the front yard, what are those
situations? Thank you. Uh, thank you. And through the chair,
the, the proposed change is to recognise that there may
be existing townhouses. That don't have sufficient space like in
a garage to store the new waist bins. And so
the proposed changes are to recognise that, um, there may
have been past developments like a townhouse that doesn't have
a garage that may need additional waste solutions to accommodate
the new programs that the city's rolling out with the
larger waistbands. Um, so when we discuss this with public
works, this was the kind of suggested limited approach to
take at this time to recognise what they've seen in
terms of the initial, uh, problem areas that have kind
of come up through the pilot project. I see. Okay.
So town, three of you, Mr. Chair Town Homes only,
um, yeah, and already for some of the road out
area in the pilot prop in the pilot project, uh,
there are some townhomes in that situation. Is that correct.
Through the chair, I'm not aware of a specific incident,
but this was a result of a discussion that we
had with public works about how we could somewhat a
lesson learned from the first project and what we could
be proactive about moving forward with, um, with potentially rolling
it out to larger areas in the city. That may
have a bit more density as well. I see. Thank
you. Anyone else have anything. Yeah Councillor Shapes. Thank you.
Um, thank you for the presentation. And just to follow
up in a few questions that we had. I did
notice right off the bat that within the document, it
stated that all new construction must comply with the zoning
bylaw. So just to confirm. If developers or applicants want
to make some major variances or changes to the zoning
bylaw, that would still occur. Through the chair yes, there
still would be the ability to make an application to
amend to the zoning bylaw, like the resuming by law
amendment or through a minor variance through a minor variance
application to the Community of Adjustment. Okay. That's glad to
hear. So I was about to go into withdrawal. If
I wasn't going to be here with all the fine
people on the committee and behind me and the staff.
So I'm glad to hear. It's to parking. Section seven.
We're referrs to car sharing. Uh, with minimum standards. Um,
these seem to be higher than what the recent application
seemed to be. So what seems to be, um, beneficial
for the environment, and especially for the Apkin as well
when they don't parking spaces might be limited. So, uh,
is this new or has this been upgraded.
Three, Mr. Chair. I believe that the car sharing provisions
were implemented in the 2022 zoning bylaw. Uh, we're not
proposing any amendments to those at this time. Um. But
I agree that they are subject to applications. Especially in
the downtime area where space is more constrained. Um, and
various applications sometimes exceed those requirements in some secretly from
them. So, uh, I think it depends on the site
specific application. Okay. It's nice to know. I'd rather see
these numbers go up and down and, uh, maybe something
I'll have to bring up more often when my standard
questions, which I have. Regards to short term. Bike spaces.
Uh, just looking at under 733 with guards to daycares,
mostly within elementary schools and secondary schools. The minimum requirement
seems to be 1. 5 per classroom. To me, that
seems a little low. Especially if we're encouraging them to
walk, roll, or, or cycle to school. Um, so Councillor
Scheerman, this stop you there. You're asking questions about the
bylaw as a whole and not necessarily about the application.
So if you could focus your questions. To the application
presented, that would be good. Is it a part of
the application. No. Okay, maybe this one is, but, uh,
Mr. Bark can clarify. Thanks and through you, Chair, but
I don't believe we're amending any bike parking regulations as
part of this. I think maybe the confusion here, Mr.
Chair, I don't think I've ever called you that before.
But chair, uh, through the chair is that as part
of the amendments to demonstrate what's changing in the zoning
bylaw, we uploaded a total volume of the zoning bylaw
with track changes in it so that anybody looking at
it could understand how, uh, various aspects of the bylaw
were changing through redline revision just so it was clear
and evident to everybody. But, uh, a complete copy of
the bylaw was updated, but the, the two questions so
far from Councillor Shaves, uh, haven't pertained to those, um.
Amendments that we've proposed. And we're outlined by Mr. Norwood.
Um, we'd be happy to have the conversation Councillor Shaves
about other general aspects of the bylaw outside the meeting.
Okay. Let's try this one. Um, so section two, The
Urban Residential Zones, uh, where I read that, um, the
Mims frontage, uh, in metres of townhomes would range from
six metres per lot to eight. I am aware that
they're, and I brought this many times up during planning
that, uh, I have difficulty parking with my venue in
front of certain townhomes. Because it's not that, uh, wide
in frontage. So just mean this has changed and I
won't have to worry about commenting parking for townhomes and
the impact it will have on the neighbourhood. Uh, through
the chair, we are not proposing any changes to the
frontage for, uh, any, any lots. Um, the only thing
that's changing relative frontage is, um, what is considered frontage
that be considered and assumed a street that's assumed by
the city. So there's no numerical changes. Okay. So I
guess it's good information going forward with planning committees in
townhomes to come to this platform. Thank you. Okay Councillor,
we're stir off. And thank you very much. Um, I
guess I'm going to go back to what we, um,
Frank has said, uh, someone else mentioned too. I'm still
uncomfortable with the changes regarding home occupation. I'm afraid that
still doesn't help people very much. Uh, I would imagine
many, many, many, um businesses. And maybe I'm imagining the
wrong one. Um. I'm wondering if we've, as Frank has
said, our needlessly restricted. And is there room to discuss
this, Mr. Chair? Is there like. Has staff considered the
reality that exists out there. Yeah. Go ahead. Thank you,
Mr. Chair. Um, we could certainly look at, uh, what
other municipalities are doing in terms of home occupations? I
know certainly the bylas I've looked at, typically the one
employee is fairly common, but I'm certainly we can take
this feedback back. And that's part of the reason why
we're having the meeting. And it's to look at, you
know, what, where we can make even further improvements. And
so I think that's certainly we can simply take back
as a team and look at what other municipalities are
doing and what is appropriate to maintaining that residential character
while still facilitating, then kind of new reality that home
occupations provide for, for people. Yeah. Thanks. I'll come for
that. And I, I think so. I think that we
got to think outside the box a little bit. I
do also understand Councillo Sanic scenario and I'm familiar with,
um, many different scenarios as well. And I don't want,
I don't think we need to think we're increasing neighbourhood
complications. I wouldn't want that either, but I do think
that, um, and I can think of 10 things to
suggest to make this, I don't think any, any business
wants to, um. Break the law or whatever we're talking
about. So I think that we can just make this,
um. Easier and flow batter and without, you know, trying
to be legalistic. That's what I, um, I think. So,
uh, I think that we, we can do better. So
I look forward to hearing that. And I'm happy to
engage as well. But, um, thank you for your willingness
to do that. And, uh, I appreciate it. Councillor Stephens.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through you, um, you have split
the changes into, what was it, administrative corrections. And then
also adding flexibility. I have two questions with the flexibility
part. Well, two specific things. First one is just tagging
back to the waste storage in front of, um, buildings.
So the, the staff summary, or sorry, the staff report,
it says, um, blah, blah, blah permitted to have waste
storage facility in the front yard. That is not, da,
da, da, da, da. The waste storage facility part, sorry,
it's probably in the glossary, but is that basically saying
you can't just have your cart strewn about your front
yard. Like you can have them, but they need to
be covered. That's kind of my interpretation of facility. Is
that right? Through the chair and thank you for the
question. That's certainly the, the idea of having requiring or
covering in the front yard is something that we did
talk about. Um, right now the limitations were really just
not being located within, uh, a parking space or a
walkway. Um, but I, but I think that this is
part of the community consultation that we're hoping to have.
And even with air conditioning units that are currently restricted
in the front yard, we're trying to understand like what
the nature of that and the concern with that is,
and maybe that's also another provision that would maybe warrant
a kind of a cover from the streetscape. So, um,
currently what's proposed in the amendment is not requiring a
cover and it would be just municipal waste storage. So
it wouldn't just be, you know, any type of waste
at all. So, um, it is again, something else. We
could look at in terms of adding a provision for
that to, to buffer from the street scape. But yeah,
currently that's not proposing the amendment. Three, Mr. Chair, thank
you. Um, yeah, that sounds interesting. I mean, it makes
sense that that opportunity would be provided to people. So,
um, yeah, some community consultations definitely sounds like a good
idea. Kingston's so unique in that we have all these
different neighbourhoods with different setups and different needs. Um, the
other question I had around The Flexible. Amendments is one
of the points in the staff report says maximum number
of bedrooms will not apply for apartment buildings being developed
under the Express Transit Overlay. Can you decipher that for
us, please? For sure. And thank you. And through the
chair. So currently section 4. 28 of the zoning bylaw
establishes maximum bedroom limits for, uh, urban residential zones, uh,
which are predominantly zones that have houses in them. It
does also establish limits for urban multiresidential zones and the
HCD zones. So which are multi - residential zones are
more like for apartment buildings. And the HTT zones are
like our heritage district. When they're under two units right
now. So generally the maximum number of bedrooms is limited
to low density housing development. The Express transit overlay is
a special overlay that is established in the zoning bylaw
that recognises that where we have express transit routes in
the city, we can contemplate higher density development only for
apartment buildings and mixed use buildings. Currently those express transit
overlay applications have to request relief from the maximum bedroom
amounts because they're mostly located in urban residential zones. And
so what we're trying to do with this amendment is
recognise that the maximum number of bedrooms in section 4.
28 currently doesn't contemplate apartment buildings. And it also shouldn't
contemplate apartment buildings when they're proposed in the express transit
overlay as well. So we were just trying to align
that with the overall vision for additional density apartment buildings
and mixed use buildings that are proposed in the Express
Transit Overlay. Three, Mr. Chair, that makes sense. Thank you.
Okay. Anyone else. All right. Seeing as none. Thank you
very much. So I will now call the regular meeting
to order at 649 PM and I need a mover
in the second order to approve the agenda with the
addendum. Move my Councillor Stephen, seconded by Councillor Osanik. Um,
all in favor. And that passes. So I need a
mover in a secondary to confirm the minutes of the
planning committee meeting 2026 - 05. Moved by Councillor Shave,
second - byte Councillor Wusterhoff. And, uh, is there any
discussion. Yeah. You have a discussion. Yeah, I just want
to make sure. Are we making the correction about the
chair? Okay. That's all. Thank you. All right. So I'll
lose in a favor. And that passes. All right. So
are there any disclosures or pecuniary interest. Seeing as none,
delegations, no briefings. So moving on to business, item for
this evening. The first item is the supplemental report for
1429 highway 15. The St. Lawrence Business Park Expansion. Go
ahead. All right. Thanks in through you chair. My name
is James Barnham. I'm the manager of development approvals for
the city of Kingston. And tonight I'll be presenting the
recommendation for, uh, 1429 highway 15, which is a city
initiated application to expand the St. Lawrence business park on
lands north of Irvin Boundary. This item was deferred in
December, uh, to allow a process to unfold whereby we
release the natural heritage study for the official plan. Uh,
the site development guidelines and the shovel worthy framework have
been presented to council. And we are now prepared to
bring this back for consideration by committee this evening. This
is an official plan amendment. A zoning bylaw amendment and
a draft plan to subdivision to redesignate rezone lands and
lay down the base subdivision framework for lands located just
north of the urban boundary in the city's east end.
The application address is 1429 highway 15, which includes the
totality of the lands that you see here before you
in both blue and green. These are all owned by
the city. But the actual application tonight centres on only
the lands highlighted in blue. For context, this is one
of many applications that are before the city in this
area. But I just wanted to lay a bit of
groundwork that this application is separate and independent from the
work that's happening with the new official plan and the
urban boundary expansion requests. Again, the lands that we're talking
about tonight are highlighted in blue. Those are the city
- owned lands that are under application this evening. But
the other items on this agenda just north of here
in purple and yellow do not form part of this
application. Over the next few slides, I am going to
walk you through the different various aspects of the subdivision
and how it's laid out. But the purpose of tonight
is to expand the urban boundary and include a portion
of the subject property, uh, in the urban boundary to
allow new commercial business park industrial and open space uses
as well as to divide the property into new blocks
and create a new road. Laying down a good portion
of the framework for this subdivision has been applying the
principles of the newly created shovelworthy framework that has been
under consultation for the past two years. And the spine
of this is located in green here on the plan.
This is the ecological naturalized corridor that has been proposed
at the top end of the subdivision that will go
from east to west. So right or left to right.
East to west, west to east, left to right. Off
on the left - hand side, it does come up
against the city - owned stormwater management block that will
form part of this subdivision. And it will traverse all
the way to the east on the right - hand
side where it will come up against the butternut creek
wetland complex area. At the southern portion, the trapezoidal block
that you see on here is a restoration block that
the city has also proposed as part of this planet
subdivision. The two blocks highlighted in blue are the stormwater
management blocks for the site. The one on the left
- hand side, which is the west end of the
subdivision. We'll butt up against highway 15, and that will
be a city - owned stormwater management block. On the
right - hand side will be an additional storewater management
block contemplated through any sort of redevelopment of the private
block that will happen at that end of the subdivision
with new development. This will not be city owned. This
will be privately owned and sized for the development when
it goes forward. The details of which will be ironed
out through any future site plan control agreement. The blocks
highlighted on here one through four are the development blocks.
Block one is being proposed as a commercial block, butting
up against highway 15, and we'll gain access directly from
highway 15. Blocks two, three, and four are being designated
in zone for business park Industrialuses. So that's anything from
light manufacturing through two office uses. And they will gain
access from a new internal street that I'll talk about
in a minute. Proposed along the west side of the
subdivision along highway 15. We are taking a road widening.
We're ensuring a utility corridor space in a three metre
reserve along that end to help control access. But this
is also being put in place for any future expansion
of any active transportation up and down highway 15. We
have the multi - use trail that currently runs up
the east side of highway 15 in this area. And
we're taking future allowances. Should there be extensions up to
this point. Think I'm going the right way. Yep. Uh,
and this one, sorry, does show the extension of innovation
drive now that I'm looking at it. It's the part
highlighted in grey. It's street A. That will be an
extension of innovation drive, uh, from the current location where
it is at now by the Industrial Building known as
TDL, which is Tim Horton's distribution limited. Uh, and we'll
go north up next to the block that's currently being
developed and then go, uh, westward through the subdivision and
up north and potentially connect to any urban boundary expansion
that may be contemplated there in the future. So the
proposed official plan amendment, when you look at this, uh,
there are several amendments proposed through the instruments that are
attached to the report this evening. There are more schedules
than usual because we are trying to apply the layered
policy that is typically found on any property in the
city. So there are amendments to schedule two to bring
it in the urban boundary. And if you're looking at
it, typically when we do official plan amendments, you will
normally see the land use designations on schedule three land
use. But because this is a secondary plan, the schedule
is actually the reado community secondary plan schedule, uh, which
is located here on the right - hand side where
we are designating it for commercial business park industrial, uh,
open space and applying a site - specific policy area.
The site - specific policy area in this zone is
specifically to deal with the highway commercial zone and permitting
it to include outdoor storage. Should there be uses there
that require it like a hardware store. Additionally, what we
are seeing through this expansion, because of the new provincial
definition for employment lands, typically something in a business park
industrial is classified as employment land in the city official
plan, but there's a specific policy being laid over top
of that, saying that for the purposes of this application,
we are not considering an employment land because we want
to be able to permit new office development in this
area, uh, that does not meet the definition under the
planning act or provincial planning statement as an employment area.
So we want that flexibility in these lands. So we're
applying that site - specific policy. The proposed zoning bylaw
amendment includes both base zoning and exception overlays. So on
the left - hand side for the zone map, we
are changing the zoning to CA highway commercial M1 business
park Industrial, an OS1 and OS2. Both open space zones
that have different classifications that go along with what are
permitted uses. On the right - hand side are the
several exception overlays that are being applied to the property.
And I'll go through each of those independently following this
slide. So for the highway commercial block, we are putting
in some very specific provisions about the uses that are
not permitted given the general uses of the highway commercial
zone because we wanted to hone them for compatibility and
adjacency to potential employment uses. So we are not including
things like daycares, hotels, or place of worship, because those
would be considered sensitive land uses and could have an
impact on future employment lands ability to develop to the
east of them. We're also not including dwelling units, which
is another sensitive land use. And then there are specific
provisions around outdoor storage, but also because there is a
designated heritage property located along highway 15 adjacent to this
property. We're including additional SEPAC and mitigation options in order
to buffer that, uh, cultural heritage resource. E209 is a
site - specific provision that is applying to the business
park land that has increasing the landscaped open space from
the typical 10 percent of a permeable material to be
included in the landscape open space calculation. So typically that
will form softscaping. We're also saying that outdoor storage is
permitted on these lands in order to allow that type
of flexibility for future employment uses. For the open space
zones, uh, which is the dark grey box highlighted on
the zone map. We are applying E216. And that's specifically
to fulfill and implement aspects of the shovel worthy framework
by limiting the permitted uses on those lands to store
water management, passive recreation and naturalized landscaping. Just to really
hone the permitted uses that are allowed on those lands.
I did mention that at the beginning, uh, these lands
have been developed in accordance with the shovelworthy framework that
has been under consultation for a number of years and
recently reviewed by Council. And there are several ways that
they are implemented through this development application. This is a
city lit application. So we do have the ability here
to lead by example with the development of our own
lands. So through this work, we are increasing the landscaped
open space through the zoning framework of this site. We
are creating a new naturalized corridor, which is not there
today. Uh, and if studied through an environmental impact study,
by a private landowner, uh, would not qualify as a
significant feature. And therefore would not be able to be
protected. But through the development of these lands by ourselves,
we are able to program such juices into, uh, whatever
lands we are creating. The draft plan is subdivision also
contains, uh, requirements and specific conditions that all publicly own
lands be designed and developed in accordance with the shovel
worthy framework. So that's everything from the municipal rights of
way to the, um, the active, uh, corridor and ecological
corridor at the top end of the subdivision. It also
notes that the draft plan of subdivision conditions are to
finalise the site development guidelines, which have recently been finalised.
And that there is an additional provision in there that
the site guidelines apply to privately conveyed lands. So when
the city goes to sell properties to private individuals, we
have the ability to. Require things about and beyond what
we typically be required through development application because we can
enter into agreements with those who are purchasing the property
to have a development agreement register on the title of
The Lands to do a couple pieces above and beyond.
So that could include everything from naturalized landscaping to the
property, uh, specific orientations of the buildings, looks and feel
as well. So we do have a robust planning framework
and conveyance framework in place in order to have a
development that exceeds minimum criteria. We did receive a communication
and I do want to go over this and address
this, uh, as part of this application, but we did
receive a communication yesterday about the subdivision not conforming with
mapping that's available through the provincial mapping website GO warehouse,
which outlines where wetlands are in the province. Specifically, the
property that we're talking about tonight on Highway 15 is
highlighted here in red. And then they're highlighted in yellow
is a projection of an unavaluated wetland on the geo
warehouse site that projects into the property. Excuse me. This
item was uploaded to the database by an environmental consultant
who reviewed aerial mapping in December of 2025. And the
mapping for this property was updated in February of 26.
It is important to note that the wetland evaluation on
the ground has not happened. And this wetland is not
deemed to be provincially significant at this time because that
work hasn't proceeded. We as the city as part of
this application have done and contracted an environmental consultant to
do work, to evaluate these lands for their delineation to
figure out exactly where the wetlands are. So as part
of the submission applications reflected in the environmental impact statement,
uh, the wetland has been mapped as a feature through
this property, uh, and noted in the staff report, the,
the wetland feature itself actually doesn't form part of any
of the development blocks, restoration blocks, or otherwise of this
development application. And that's represented here where you can see
the butternut creek EPA area, the large, the hard purple
lines that are around it are the wetland delineation boundaries
that were mapped on the ground. And then the 30
metre sent back in orange program from there. The nearest
part of the subdivision application that we're talking about tonight
is 46 metres away from the wetland feature. So we
are well clear of the wetland and it is not
an area that we're proposing to develop in, change land
use permissions around, whether it's through the official Plan Amendment
or zoning by law amendment. We do have a natural
heritage study going on as part of our new official
plan, which is comprehensively looking at these aspects citywide. And
our environmental consultant will also be conducting the work in
order to make the submission to the provincial database about
the extent of this wetland. So if the other questions
about that, we do have the team here available to
answer that tonight. So the recommendation before you this evening
is to approve an official plan amendment. As owning bylaw
amendment in a draft plan of subdivision to extend the
urban boundary and program these lands for future employment uses.
It does meet all, uh, municipal and provincial requirements being
in consistent with and conforming to the provincial planning statement
and the official plan and does represent good land use
planning. The next steps after this is, uh, work with
the applicant team, which is here this evening as well,
including city real estate to work through the details of
a final plan of subdivision approval, which will include detailed
design around the ecological corridor, the stormwater management design and
the road extension. Each of the individual blocks and they
develop will have to proceed through a cycline control application.
And there will be future applications for a municipal servicing
allocation as the blocks come online, whether in whole or
individually one by one. And afterwards, we'd be happy to
answer any questions. So thank you. And thank you very
much. Um, so are there any questions from committee. Councilloc
Sanic. Thank you through you, Mr. Chair question to Mr.
Bar. So in our, um, motion, I guess it was
in December maybe. I think it was before Christmas, um,
but I'm not sure. We deferred this until the natural
heritage study like was done. And consultation on the natural
heritage study on the second draft was just last night.
Like it was just last night and we're still accepting
comments until April 21st. So like really I wanted tofer
planning like approving that block four. Like I guess you're
fine for block one, two, and three, but four has
that, you know, unavaluated creek. Right. That we say it's
not a significant wetland, but still has to be evaluated.
And in our email today from Commissioner Agnew, it says
that, um, there still is going to be a site
visit with Stinson and fire mental and our city ecologist.
And let me just see, uh, who else. And so
like, I'm just wondering Mr. Bar, what's the consequence if
we defer, um, the approval of block four tonight. Thanks.
And through you, uh, chair. It's a great question Councillor
Sanic. Deferring the application for block four. I don't think
we'd cover this in its entirety because there is also
the restorative block to the east of it. Um, but
I would also like to point out that tonight's approval,
uh, for official Plan Amendment zoning bylaw amendment. And draft
plan of subdivision. Um, while it does bring in the,
uh, fisher plan and zoning framework for this site, it
is a draft plan of subdivision. So there are conditions
that have to be met in order to finalise the
blocks and move forward with them and program those last
pieces. So if there are changes to the environmental work
associated with the site visit that would happen in the
spring between the environmental consultants, any blocks that may be
subject to any future wetland. Uh, through the final plan
of subdivision process, that is work that would still require
an environmental impact study if that work is there. But
tonight's provisional approval would just move this application along to
the next step, which would start to, to pull these
lands into the urban boundary and allow us to move
on to the detailed work associated with the programming of
the final planet subdivision. Okay. Oh, Mr. Bar. Thank you
and through you, Mr. Chair. I just want to clarify
in the motion that was. Sorry, Mr. Park. I just
wanted to clarify through, uh, The chair that the motion
that was made at the December, uh, planning committee for
deferral. It was until the natural heritage study and related
mapping was released to the public. For, uh, their ability
to review it. It is not upon completion or acceptance
of the report. It was a release of the report.
Thank you. Yes. Through, through you, Mr. Chair. I just
want to say that the, um, that there are concerns
with the shovel worthy team, right? The, uh, the food
Psalm for tea team. And, um, that they want in
the minutes that the methodology, they want to record the
methodology that, uh, IGIS had used to end. It's apparently
not on DASH. Maybe to the clerk, I'll put in
there. If we had instead use the OWES compliance methodology,
um, you know, it would, it would have been better.
Or a land classification methodology. And so like this site
visit is really important to the land sovereign team that
has done so much work in the shovel worthiness of
this project. The OWES methodology is considered a gold standard
for evaluating a wetland, which entails assassinates ecological function. Uh,
whereas the EGIS may have used a land classification method.
So that's the problem. Uh, we want the site visit
so that we can look at the OWES methodology. Mr.
Bar. Okay. So Mr. Bar, can I also just have
assurance that the draft subdivision plan could be altered if
the site visit changes the wetland boundary discrepancy. Thanks. And
through you chair, uh, the full environmental impact study that
was done by Aegis is available on DASH. So if
there are additional questions on that staff, we're happy to
answer them. Um, but to your second point, Councillor Sanek,
yes, if there are, we do have the ability broadly
to modify blocks between draft plan and subdivision and final
plan of subjunt through a process that's known as redlining.
Uh, so the final arrangement of the blocks could in
theory change between draft plan approval and find a plant
approval if there are additional and new information that's presented
that would result in, you know, the need to modify
those blocks. So that is something that we would be
looking for post draft plan approval if it happens tonight.
And then post on site meeting with the environmental consultants
in the spring once that's arranged. But we do have
confidence in the work that has been done to date,
uh, by the environmental consultant alongside of the review that
has been done by the city's ecologist for the wetland
boundary. And its location, we have walked the site and
mapped it, uh, with survey grade equipment, understand exactly where
that significant, no, I'm not going to say significant because
that would mean it's significant under the act, but we're
that feature is, uh, located on the property because we
want it to be mindful of that. And the location
and co - location of the restorative block also helps
to create an additional buffer adjacent to the creek from
the development that would happen to the west of it.
Oh, great. Uh, thank you. My last question through you,
Mr. Chair is just, if there is a change in
the, uh, in the boundary, can we be made aware
of it? Or can it be put in like the
weekly council update at that time, like just so we're
aware of what the outcome of the site visit is.
Thanks, Andrew. Yes. Thanks. And through your chair. Staff will
be happy to do that, especially as this is a
city - led development application that has, uh, high levels
of public scrutiny around it and very large interests from
council. So we'd be happy to provide any updates as
this move through final planet subdivision. And post - site
visit. Thank you. Anyone else wishes to speak. Councillor Stephen.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I just want to commend
everyone who has worked for years on this. It's really
exciting to see again that the city has this opportunity
to actually lead by example. Um, you know, it's, it's
one thing to say you want something. It's another thing
to do it. Um, so while I can certainly appreciate
concerns about wetland and I'm glad that there will be
some follow - up conversations about that, um, I think
this has been a long time coming. And I think
it's been done very responsibly ethically, um, and with great
consideration for the indigenous food, sovereignty garden and nature in
general. So thank you for that. Anyone else wishes to
speak. All right. Seeing as no one. We'll move on
to, um, questions from the public. Are there any members
of the public? Okay. You know, five minutes and state
your name. Um, thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, thanks for
the presentation. Um, you'll see that I'm very much like
the general trajectory of this work. Um. Three points. I've
written them down for the clerk to help with their
recording. I'm going to continue on the theme that's been
raised on the eastern end of the sector. So I'm
concerned about potential flooding in the spring and after peak
rains. In this area, um. Chicken into account what was
presented on the report. Apparently the 45 metre setback there.
So I'm speaking on, uh, from experience as a member
of the garrison golf club in past years. And that's
a location that is to the south of this sector.
And this creek, um, flows through part of the course.
Uh, civically hole number 15. And there have been a
number of years. Where this is flooded heavily. And it
is closed that hole for a number of weeks. So
I'm just wondering if the city could consult with the
garrison golf club on their history with this. Drain interchanges
have been made, uh, but. Um, you're looking at it.
And this is just a little bit of practical input
from maybe an aspect that you hadn't considered. I'm just
wondering, uh, so second question, um, this is a question
I often ask. On the big picture, gradient for the
sector. And its impact on the future of the parcels
development. So I'm just wondering if you have an east
to west downward slope. As you head toward the Colorae
River. Would that be an accurate, uh, sort of not
show assessment. And have you factor that into work that
you're doing. Okay. And my final point is just a
continuation on points that were raised by Councillo Sanek, um,
on the environmental investigatory work on Bartonaug Creek. And I'm
just wondering at this stage, you can say anything more
about the proposed timeline on the completion of that work.
Certainly you're putting, uh, excellent care into the work. Of
very impressed with that. And, um, even the official plan,
um, new, uh, new work is being done. With a
summer, um, possible completion. How would that tie into that
official plan work. Thank you. Wants to take that on.
Oh, there's some online. I forgot about the on. So
used to not being in the online people. Um, so
is there anyone online? We should speak. Leslie Norris. If
you want to unmute. Yeah, five minutes and then state
your name, even though I just said it. Les Lenores.
Yeah. So thank you for the presentation. I have a
few comments and questions. Um, one, I like that there's
the quarter along the back. We talked in earlier meetings
about making that larger, but, um, I guess that's not
something that's happening, but I question the idea of having
the corridor and then the restorative piece in the bottom
corner, but then having the piece that would be connecting
the tube as privately owned. Uh, my concern with that
is that, well, it's two concerns. One is that. If
it was publicly owned by the city, then it could
be factored in as an element that relates to these
two other pieces, the corridor and the, um, the renaturalized
sort of park space in the, in the bottom there.
Um, and the second one is that if it's privately
owned by whoever builds on this site, they're going to
do the bare minimum and draw it as you had
drawn it as sort of two, two little basins with
zero qualities. And it's sitting adjacent to the butter net
freak. I know it's not connected, but if ever there
is a problem where, uh, untreated water spills out from
that space into the creek, it's sitting right there and
the company that would be owning that lot or occupying
that lot isn't. I mean, they're going to have, they're
not going to be invested in making sure that it's
a site that's more than the bare minimum. Um, I'm
also wondering one thing we had talked about potentially doing
in other meetings is having an accessible connection between the
blocks. Like I'm envisioning something maybe at the end of
the cul - de - sac between block three and
four. Something the width of a pedestrian path that would
let people access the back corridor. And I'm thinking about
this more if the sites on the east side of
this get developed ever as the subdivisions that have been
talked about being developed, as you showed in one of
your maps. And the, uh, 1376 Byronet Creek Road in
1623 highway 15 sites. That I think one thing that
this plan is missing is that there's no connections through
the site and it's just been developed as these Industrial
very blocky sites. So I think it'd be worth looking
at how it actually connects, uh, the pedestrian level. Another
thought would be potentially to have it connect. Back to
that little park space from the cul - de -
sac going down to the park space and creating some
sort of loop around there. But before workers at lunchtime,
it could be for people in the area. Um, it
feels, it feels right now like it's disconnected. And this
is being developed as a parcel in isolation knowing that
there are other pieces that will be developed at some
point, but it's sort of ignoring those elements right now.
Thank you. All right. Is there anyone else online who
wishes to speak. Okay. Uh, I'll call on Vicky Schmoka.
If you want to unmute, state your name and you
have five minutes. Thank you. Very much. Thank you, Schmalka
here. Um, I support very much what I just heard
Leslie Norris say. So, um, I think there is a
concern of not connecting the blocks. Um, I also, when
I looked at the agenda for today, I was surprised,
excuse me, I was surprised that this item was on
the agenda. When I look at the December 4th Planning
Committee, uh, motion that was passed, which Mr. Park referenced,
but I reading on, he said, well, the natural heritage
study has been released. So we've met that, uh, that
requirements or direction from Planning Committee. But it says released
to the public early in 2026. Well, it was just
released a few weeks ago. And then it goes on
allowing the public time to review the draft NHS report.
And for more consideration to be given to the concerns
raised by the public relating to the city initiated official
planning by law amendment and draft plan of subdivision applications.
And I feel like the public meeting was last night
to explain the new natural heritage study information. It was
a good meeting, but it didn't cover everything. And I
do feel that this, uh, this application from the city
is really jumping the gun. Um, there was also direction
from planning committee at the federal, February 19th meeting that
senior agenda on page 361 talking about, uh, that extension
of the time period to bring the recommendation back to
planning committee honour before June 5th, 2026. And I guess
I appreciate what Wendy Councillor Steven said about, um, how
the city has worked a lot with other people to
get this subdivision looking the way it is and the
strip and the setback. Uh, I do think though that
it feels really uncomfortable that the city is moving ahead
with its own application when everybody else is waiting, all
the other applicants, you know, people who are invited to
say we'd like the urban growth boundary to move. They're
waiting their turn and the city has gone ahead. And
I'm not sure that's actually modelling by example. I haven't
heard any justification for rushingness. And I do feel we
haven't had a chance to look at the, um, natural
heritage study fully. I also wonder if Mr. Bar could
bring back up the map that showed where the wetland
evaluation now is that had the sort of yellow spaces.
And the setbacks that he referenced, um, that are shown
on another map. Because when I looked at them, they
don't read to me like the proposed map from this
application from the city for itself. Actually maps where the
wetland now is registered with the Ministry of the Environment.
I mean, they created this. They said anybody with the
credentials can go map a wetland. And that's what's happened.
So I think that has to be respected. So I'm
very worried that the city is actually not really using
the new mapping and fair enough. You're going to go
out again with people hopefully soon while the water's up
and you can really see where the water is and
where the, you know, vegetation is for the sweatland. But,
um, is the city really respecting what is currently registered
with the province. And I think a review of those
two maps would be really helpful. It's too bad they
weren't prepared as an overlay. So I think those are
my comments. I'm, I mean, I support the buffer area.
Um, and I'm glad to see this respect for nature
in this area. It just seems to be an odd
timing to bring this forward now. And I think Councillor
Rosanic spoke to deferral. And I, I think that might
be a good committee strategy just to respect the motions
that committee already made on December 7th and February 19th.
As in the staff report. Thank you very much. Thank
you. Is there anyone else online who wishes to speak.
Please raise your virtual hand and zoom. All right. Sing
as then I'll go to staff for answering the comments
and questions. Thanks. And through you, Chair, I'm going to
answer the questions that I can answer. And if my
colleagues have anything additional to ad, I will look to
them afterwards. I'm going to start at the end. Uh,
with the last comment about why this is being brought
forward in advance of all of the urban boundary expansion
requests that we've received as part of the new official
plan. It is worthy to note that we receive direction
from council to initiate these applications in 2024. Uh, in
order to start to develop and expand the city's roster
of employment lands so that we could achieve new employment
uses. So we have been acting on a direct motion
from council in order to bring these applications forward. So
thank you, Mr. Dixon. Miss Norris submissione wolka for your
questions. Going back to the beginning of them, uh, there
were concerns about potential flooding with peak rains. There was
discussion about a golf course downstream of here. And if
there was any discussion about that, um, and about how
the property was graded, um, whether it goes east to
west, there is a bit of a break in the
property. It does parkhoast. It does park go west, which
is why there are other two stormwater management blocks contemplated
for it. Uh, there was a stormwater management report done
as part of the application, which looked at those catchmen
sub areas and how best to deal with the stormwater
management from this site. The basic principles of stormwater management
applied to this like every other development. So Primus equal
post and we can't create additional flooding hazards on adjacent
properties or add to the stream and stormwater has to
be dealt with on site comprehensively. With the
proposed timeline of completion of, okay, so this then went
on to discuss the questions around the work that's going
to be happening between the cities ecologist, Egypt, who's who's
the city's consultant and then sent in environmental. We have
a commitment to undertake that work in the spring of
2026 when the weather turns appropriate. Winter seems to be
eternal this year. So we do need appropriate conditions for
the environmental consultants to go out and do that evaluation
on property. Uh, so we are looking at undertaking that
in the spring of 2026 as soon as we possibly
can. Hopefully sometime in April. Sticking to the point of
the ecological corridor that happened after that and about making
it larger, uh, it is 30 metres proposed on this
property, but as part of the new official plan work
in the phasing work for the two highway 15 properties
north of here that directly abut this site. There is
an official plan policy. It's not on the mapping anywhere,
but it is in the official plan second draft under
the 1504 and 1623 highway 15 phasing development requirements under
section 10 C. It's 10 C 1. 5. It specifically
talks about those two properties to the north and trying
to develop them with criteria that creates a provision of
an ecological corridor along the southernmost portion of those lands.
Um, that have the effect of doubling the ecological corridor
provided on 1429 highway 15. So if the ecological corridor
is approved, uh, at 30 metres as part of this
application, we do have future policy that will help guide
any sort of redevelopment of those two additional parcels to
widen that corridor, an additional 30 metres for a total
width of 60 metres. The ability to take that land
as part of those applications will form part of our
future considerations through draft plan of subdivision and the negotiations
that happen with that. So we do have policy in
it looking to make it larger as any part of,
uh, future redevelopment of the lands to the north. Dealing
with this stormwater block and the ecological corridor and the
restorative block on the east end of the site next
to Butternut Creek. That was the natural location for a
stormwater block, especially since with the ecological corridor. There is
the ability to, uh, potentially convey through a naturalized stormwater
management channel. The stormwater block from the west end of
the property down through the property to butternut creek. It
is just a natural location for it. Um, through the
agreements of purchase and sale as well, the city has
the ability to require different types of stormwater management blocks
that could be slightly more naturalized. Uh, we could require
vegetation around it through the agreement of purchase and sale
and future development agreement. These items are contemplated through the
site development guidelines in order to provide more native and
naturalized plantings on property. So that is something that staff
will be investigating through that additional work at the time
of cylink control. Regarding a privately owned stormwater management block,
those do have to meet all technical engineering requirements, uh,
engineers do have to stamp and sign off on those.
Those are reviewed by the city. But in addition to,
uh, city requirements, four Stormwater Management blocks, stormwater management blocks
on Industrial Lands also require an environmental compliance approval from
the Ministry of the Environment. So there is an additional
regulatory requirement from the provincial government to maintain those, uh,
two specific standard in order to mitigate adverse stormwater quality,
uh, and control that appropriate appropriately to make sure it
does not negatively impact natural systems. It was a great
question. And I think Miss Norris Ford and Mish Milko
for echoing it about having accessible connections between the blocks
and through the site. I know right now with the
draft plan of subdivision, it looks like we are contemplating
a road that will go north - south through the
property. And that is the only, I guess, movement through
the site that's being contemplated. With the exception overlay for
the ecological corridor, we are allowing passive recreation through there.
So at 30 metres wide, we are potentially contemplating a
passive recreation use. So a potential trail that would run
east - west through there as well to provide access
and accessibility and movement through that top end of the
site. And to allow the occupants who go to the
site, that ability to walk around and potentially get down
to butternut creek or out to highway 15. But for
contemplation of an additional loop, that is something that we
can look at when we're talking about the development of
those blocks and how to create more permeability from a
pedestrian perspective. But we do have north - south vehicular
connectivity through here. Um, the street itself will also contain
sidewalks potentially on both sides. So there will be active
transportation abilities to move up through this subdivision. But also
potentially east - west through, um, a passive recreation trail
that would run the length of that ecological corridor and
utilise the stormwater management block on the west side to
get out to highway 15. The design of that will
be reviewed through the final plan of subdivision. So those
details will come through that next stage of the application.
Regarding the question for the February deferral motion, um, where
we specified in it that we had to bring back
the application honour before June 6th. That's just a technical
matter. When we do put forward a deferral motion, we
have to defer it for the maximum amount 90 days
in order to allow us that flexibility. That just happened
to be 90 days out from the previous end date.
So we were just looking at a technical requirement in
order to be able to pump that out to give
us the flexibility to bring this report back in a
timely manner. I don't have anything additional for the questions
at this time. I'll look to my colleagues in real
estate to see if they have anything additional that they
would like to add. To you, Mr. Chair. Thank you
for the questions. Uh, they were really good comments, which
we are already looking into. For instance, the North South
connection between block three and fourth. The site development guidelines
that we are working on. We are discussing those kind
of connections between the blocks. And we'll continue working on
that. Um, and second was a comment regarding the connection
of ecological corridor with the natural light space. So the
area which is east of this development site is all
owned by the city. So there is a connection already
there. Um, and it's a matter of just formalizing it.
And again, as our discussions are going on with, with
the garden group and our consultants, we are looking at
all these possibilities. Uh, these things are very detailed work.
And this will take place at the next, um, phase
of the project, which is the final plan of subdivision.
We are detailed design would be done. And, uh, we
are eager to start that phase if we are able
to get approval for this phase of draft plan of
subdivision and OPNZB approval. Um, other than that, I would
like to just mention, like Mr. Bar mentioned that, uh,
in February, 2024, we got the approval from Council to
start the planning applications. But this project started in February
2023 when consult directed staff to start working with the
garden group to develop the show worthy development guidelines. And
over one year with the extensive consultation and expert help
from our, uh, professional consultants, we were able to develop
those guidelines. And, uh, that the draft of which was
presented to Council in February, 2024. And at that time
Council gave us direction to start the planning applications. Thank
you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Anyone else wanted to chime
in. No. Okay. So there was one other person online
who was unable to raise his hand. So I'll just,
since we still have the public portion open, I'll recognise.
I'll recognise Rob Miller's state your name. And you have
five minutes. Oh, hello. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay.
Great. Uh, hi, my name's Rob or Robert Miller. Um,
I live at 800 Ruberview way. Uh, right above the
Corey. So I, um, I know the city needs additional
residential lands and employment lands, especially given the fact that
the, uh, the hospital is going to go up by
the 401 and is consuming a large block. Like as
I mentioned, I just live off highway 15. And I'm
wondering, um, if the city is looked at the cumulative
effects, and I know it was mentioned and it was
shown that there's all of these additional and separate independent
parcels being developed. And I'm just wondering what the cumulative
effects are going to be on be on that. The
subdivision in the quarry hasn't really been built out yet.
But the, uh, but highway 15 is, is already quite
challenged. It's deteriorating. It's overloaded. And, you know, all of
these additional homes and businesses are going to be, uh,
added. So I'd like to know if there's some proactive
planning taking place. And if highway 15 and the capacity
of highway 15 is being looked at. So that's one,
one major concern. Um, and then another one is it's
more of a broad question for the city and the
planners. I mean, I'm watching the urban boundary kind of
sprawl east and west. I do not understand why lands
north of the 401 are not being examined. Other, other
cities near us, uh, are doing that. Um, and I
will use, uh, full disclosure. I own a property on
Sydnam Road. And I use Sydney Marota as an example.
I participated in the process requesting an urban boundary expansion
north of the 401 on Sydden Road. And for, um,
whatever reasons, um, it was not supported. And, uh, and,
and, and, and, you know, deemed not possible. I don't
understand why there's already a significant commercial and In Industrial
base north of the 401 in Sydham Road. The city
owns and operates in arena. It has water, service north
of the 401. There's no septic. I know the city
and other, other, um, other businesses north of the 401
there have to, well, I know the arena has to
pump out its septic system, which, which, which, uh, which
seems fairly short - sighted. And lastly, a third point,
um, I'm not sure anything can be done about this,
but I, I have a concern about the consumption of,
of, of farmland. That lot that's being, uh, proposed for
rezoning from rural. To commercially. There's been no soil studies,
no agricultural impact assessments. You got the glaucomorra farm that's
being, um, kind of bulldozed. And then there's properties along
butternut creek that are being proposed for, um, for development.
So I know there's a attention and, and the city
wants to and needs to expand to promote growth. But
I'm just concerned about, um, consumption and, and loss of,
of what might be good farmland. Thank you. Okay, thank
you. Just going to make sure. Is there anyone else
online while I still have the public portion open that
we should speak? This is your, probably your last chance
to raise your hand and zoom. Seeing as none. Okay.
So we'll go back to staff. Things in through you
chair, uh, two of those questions are applicable to the
applications tonight. So I will be speaking about the cumulative
effects of development in the area and the concerns about
farmland, um, but this application is far removed from the
urban boundary discussions about where we're expanding and is more
appropriate for the discussion with the official plans. So, uh,
thank you, Mr. Miller, for those comments. And I will
relay them to the official plan team who, uh, if
you would let additional dialogue on that can be in
touch with you. Regarding the cumulative effects on highway 15,
uh. Every application that comes in has to review the
approvals that happened before it. So every new application takes
into account existing traffic patterns based on existing and approved
development. So that takes into account a cumulative aspect of
effect of all the work that's happening in the area.
But if you're thinking about the aspect of the new
official plan, uh, contemplation of your boundary expansion, uh, going
along with the work for the official plan is also
an Integrated Mobility plan, which is looking at system wide
city transportation networks. Uh, and it's also evaluating that. So
there are two ways that existing development and proposed development
or evaluated through, uh, the approvals process. One is that
the city wide scale, which we're undertaking now through the
official plan project. But at the individual application project, each
application that comes in reviews everything that proceeds it and
looks at the transportation network looks at the servicing network,
looks at the stormwater management network for the understanding of
cumulative capacity. We also have our, uh, individual departments that,
uh, continuously monitor and review various aspects of the city
systems to make sure that they are still functioning adequately
for existing and proposed development. Regarding the concerns about the
farmland and the lack of agricultural impact study that associated
with this application, um, an agricultural impact study is not
required at this location. Uh, that's required when you are
converting prime agricultural lands into, uh, something else. And in
this case, it would be an urban boundary expansion through
the official plan work that happened in the late 2000s,
early 2010s, the city undertook two LIR studies, which are
land evaluation and area review studies, which review the agricultural
potential of the city. And it mapped out appropriate locations
for lands to be designated primaricultural and lands to be
designated rural through both of those reviews. These lands remain
designated rural and we're not considered for prime agricultural. So
that work was not required associated with this application. Should
the city have been expanding the urban boundary in a
location where we were moving into primagricultural. It would have
required an entirely different policy set to be evaluated. Um,
that is triggered under the provincial planning statement, including the
need for an agricultural impact assessment. But that was not
required as part of this application. Uh, so that is
why, uh, that specific requirement is not found on DASH
and was not required. Anyone else have any comment.
All right. Well, that closes that part. So now we
need to move her in a second here for the
recommendation. Move by Councillor Shave, second by Councillor Stephen. Is
there any discussion. Councillor Glenn.
Um, thank you. And three, you and Sr. Chair. I
haven't, um, said too much because I really wanted to
hear what was, uh, being contemplated here. Um, I'm actually
really concerned just that we, we brought this back in
a bit of a rush. And I want the community
to feel confident about what we're doing. So I actually
want to move emotion to defer this to our April
16th meeting to allow the community time to give consideration
for what was in that study. Um, I myself have
just returned from, you know, vacation over March break and
have barely had time to scratch the surface on looking
at this. I don't think that there's anything untoward here.
It's just, um, it seems to me that if we're
truly wanting the community to support us and to make
sure that we're doing the right thing and protecting, uh,
very sensitive areas, then an extra couple of weeks is
just not that big a difference. Um, also, um, I
thought that we had until June 5th to do this.
So, um, is there any reason to, to rush? So
I want to put the deferral out there and I'm
happy to discuss it. So are you moving into furral
now or are you just still discussing. Okay. Yeah, I'm
looking for the deferral in there. I think we should
just defer like a couple more weeks will not. You
know, be the end of the world. Okay. So is
there a seconder. I can't see everyone on the screen.
So seconded by Councillo Sanic. Okay. So I guess you
have one minute. To speak to it. Um, yeah. As
I, I was leading up into putting the furlate there.
Um, I think some legitimate, uh, comments have been made.
I do think that the intent of the deferral was
to give the community and ourselves time to actually review
the material that came forward. We just literally got it.
So, um, two weeks we'll give us an extra time.
My understanding was we didn't have to have this recommendation
come back until June 5th. So I'm wondering why it's,
it's a bit rushed. Um, you know, given the intent.
So I'm hoping that everybody understands that this is to
make sure that we bring the whole community together. We
don't miss any thing. We're in that final step to
get this done. I think everybody's committed to wanting to
have, um, more lands out there to develop. We understand
we need them, but let's, let's nail this. Let's get
it right. Okay. Anyone else wish to speak to the
deferral.
No one. Oh, Councillor Shaves. I just want to ask
staff, if there would be any impact on this proposal.
Go ahead. Through you chair. Uh, Councillor, you just asked
the question again. If there would be any impact on
this proposal with the differ. Thanks and through you chair.
A deferral of the application just means we're deferring the
work that needs to happen next in order to start
bringing on new employment lands to the city. Uh, every
deferral just pushes the time I know further. I don't
know if my colleagues in real estate have any additional,
uh, pieces to add to that. But, uh, that is
just a time delay. Um, in order to for us
to advance the next round of work. Yeah. Three. So
I think I've just only added to it as well.
We've put a lot of time and money into this,
uh, project. The more delays, the, the longer it's decided
as to whether we continue to invest into the expansion
and the project and further studies, like taking out and
doing further reviews and further works studies we plan to
do in the spring to, as we've referenced in other
studies to get prepared for the design activity, not knowing
if there's going to be expansion, kind of makes us
hesitate as to whether we should be spending that money
because it's more, uh, more investment into understanding the land,
working with the partners on what to do with the
property. So we, we do need to kind of understand
the direction at some point. So and to confirm if
we delay this, this was actually three weeks, not two.
Concerning our schedule. That's correct, Chair. Yes. We have a
planning committee next week on April 2nd. Then the gap
week. So it would be the week proceeding that would
be three weeks out. Okay. And I can understand the
Councillor's concern of just returning back from vacation, but we
that all happens to us. I was gone for a
period of time and then had to catch up on
my readings as well. So, um, I'm not sure if
that should be factored into it. But we'll see. Okay.
Councillor Straf, you have one minute. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Yeah. I, I, I don't think we should postpone this
or deferrant. I really think it's time to move it
forward while I can go back a lot of years
when I remember we also balked and I'm, um, I'm
a little bit embarrassed about our cities sometimes of how
we are so reluctant to move forward with certain things.
And this is, this is a time that we need
to do that and trust the staff. We've heard. I
think they've answered the questions really, really well. So I
would just ask my colleagues to let's move forward with
this in the confidence that we have given it really
serious look and dealt with so many things and staff
have completed what we've asked. So I'm going to be,
um, I would like to support this. And move forward.
It's time. Thank you. Councillo Sanic. Uh, thank you Mr.
Chair. I support this deferral. We all received a letter
from, um, the land sovereignty group on Tuesday. And then
we had that very late Council meeting. I don't know
if other people on Council were able to send the
letter to staff. But I only did so last night.
And then we got the email this afternoon. Um, you
know, some of us have full time jobs. I only
was able to read it between five o'clock and six
o'clock at the start of this meeting. And then I
see right before this meeting that they're still concerns from
the group, I think we deserve to give that group
a chance to still come out with them, you know,
more concerns because we just had that natural heritage study
meeting last night. And we were asking questions right up
until eight o'clock. Right. Um, and it didn't touch on
everything in the study. It is hard to look at
all that mapping. Cause it's, I don't know integrative. It's
hard to figure it out. We need more time. We
are spend a minute. Oh, okay. It's only two weeks.
It's only hit like. Councillor Steven. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I've been listening to the arguments and the reasons and
been thinking about what I think is the right thing
to do here. I'm of the opinion that, well, I
can appreciate, um, people wanting a little more time to
have a chance to review. I think that this has
been. Something that is so scrutinized and so carefully done.
We've had so many check - ins along the way.
I don't feel that more time is necessary to achieve
what we're trying to do here. I think we need
to bring these employment lands online as soon as possible.
I think we've done our due diligence. And I think
that there's enough wiggle room left that any of these
concerns that have been brought up tonight, can and will
be addressed over time. I'm just looking to staff for
nods. Yes, I'm seeing lots of nods. Thank you. Um,
so I won't be supporting the deferral. Um, I'm comfortable
moving forward tonight. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Can
you take the chair. I have the chair. Okay. Um,
so I just have a quick question. Um, so. The
concern that Councillo Sanic brought about, um, can people still
bring their concerns. And even if we pass this tonight.
Mr. Bar. Right, sir. Thank you and through you chair.
Uh. After tonight, if the application moves forwards to council,
people can still bring their concerns forward to staff. Uh,
we do have the final plan of subdivision application to
move through, but should this get approved by Council. This
application will close. It doesn't mean that staff are unreceptive
to comments that would come in because we do have
additional processes after this to move through, through the final
plan of subdivision work. Uh, so there will be a
new application eventually started for these lands. Um, we can
continue to receive comments and feedback on the proposal and
work that into, uh, our review of the next round
of planning instruments. And since we control this LAN, we
can, we can have more say or have more direction
if something is needed, right? Through, you chair, that is
correct. These are, these are city on lens under council's
purview. So I don't see. Personally, I don't think that
there's a need to delay. This because it's just one
step. And then the more steps. And the more dialogue.
And the, it's not like we're closing the door on
anyone, um, it's just so we can move on to
the next step and start planning the next step. And
we got some assurances that if the mapping changes, then
we'll change. So I won't be supporting this just because
we're open and we will keep listening. Thank you. I
return the chair. Okay. So. Councillor Glenn, do you want
a final word? Yes. Thank you and through you. Um,
first I should have called a point of, I guess,
order or privilege or whichever it is. Um, I didn't
appreciate the comments by Councillor Shays. I did read the
material, but, um, didn't have lots of time to digest
it. And the point that was being made was that
the community hasn't either. So this is not about not
doing this. This is about doing what we continue to
say that we are going to do, which is allow
the community to have the input that they so desperately
have been asking us for to ensure that the process
is clean, clear, transparent. Um, yes, it has been vetted.
I hear you absolutely. But the job is also to
represent that community. It is to hear the concern. It
is to hear the voice that they're bringing to the
table. Um, and we want them with us. My concern
is when we don't do that, that what we end
up with then is people who are disgruntled, who come
back and, and, you know, if, if any small mistake
gets made, they're going to call it into question because
we didn't do that extra couple of weeks. Um, so
I really hope that you'll give consideration to that. I
understand the time. I understand the expense. I understand how
complicated it is. Um, but I do think that having
a mere few days to try and digest this with
full - time jobs and other things going on just
isn't really fair to those who did this. So why
did we bother to defer to get this study in
the first place? We should have just not done that
in my opinion. Okay. Thank you. All right. So I'll
call the vote. Aldo is in favor. I don't see
everyone. Okay. Um, I'll opposed.
And that loses four to two with Councillor Glenn and
Oceanic and the minority. Okay. So back to the, um,
the rest of the motion. You still had like three
minutes left Councillor Glenn. So I'm going to speak now
just because we're not deferring to the actual proposal. I
don't fundamentally have any major issues with it. Um, I
do think that it's, um, something necessary for the community.
Um, I've already voiced my concerns. I think we've heard
exhaustively about this. I've generally been again, supportive, uh, with
the insurance is that it shovel ready. Um, so I'm
not going to comment any further this evening on it.
Uh, we've gone through this time and time again, I
had just been very hopeful that we would, um, put
our money where I'm Loth was and make sure that
the community was also as satisfied as those of us
more entangled in this of our, uh, our satisfied. Right.
Anyone else was to speak. Councillo Sanic.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, I just have a question.
Okay. It just came up that I was still muted.
Um, I just have a question to Mr. Bar and
Mr. Bar in your slide deck when you keep the
presentation. Did you also have a slide that showed where
the stemson, um, like work showed the, um, the creek
boundary, like the setbacks. And then I think you showed
where the city boundary was. Did you also have a
slide that showed where the Stinson boundary was. For, um,
the evaluation that they did and how closely it meshed
or how different it was. Thanks. And through you chair,
um, Councillo Sanik, the first slide I had up that
showed the blue feature with the yellow highlight was the
work that was uploaded to the portal by Stinson based
on the aerial imagery review that they undertook. The second
one, uh, that I put up was the, uh, work
that was done by the city ecologist to map the
wetland feature boundaries. We did not do an overlay of
the two because we understand that we are going to
go through this process with the, um, the ecologist on
site in the spring. So that work is, is still
to come. And through you chair, we do have additional
comments from, uh, Director Forrest. Yeah. Thank you, through you.
Just to clarify, Councillor Sanek, um, it's the city ecologist
didn't do the mapping. It was the hired ecologist that
did the mapping of the wetland. Just to, yeah, Aegis
did that part. Um, yeah, the, uh, Stinson Environmentalist, they
did on site, uh, evaluation of the wetland to the
south. He has not completed on - site work to
the north. So the lands adjacent to it. He's only
done desktop. What we suggested in our response to the
letter is that our consultant EGIS did do on -
site ground truthing, um, but what we've agreed to is
that in the spring, we will work with Stinson to
get on site. Go on with him to make sure
when he's grandma truthing, we share our data and review
and update accordingly. Um, that's our plan. We are consultant
have done that work, but we're more than willing to
work with, uh, partners to do that as well. Okay.
Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wish to speak.
Councillor Stephen. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, one thing I
didn't touch on, but I wanted to say thank you
for was, um, in the supplemental report, I talked about
tightening up the regulations with respect to the open space.
Um, I really appreciated seeing that. So thank you for
that work. Oh, Mr. Barrett. Thanks. And just to actually
make a point about that, uh, the updated zoning by
Land is included as an addendum tonight just because of
such large document. We going over it today saw that
one of the mapping pieces was incorrect. So I think
if it's approved tonight, it's approved as amended. And I
would look to The Clerk for that because it's in
schedule B. I just want to make sure that the
appropriate zoning bylaw is getting approved tonight. Should I go
to that place? Thank you. Okay. Anyone else wish to
speak. No. All right. Um.
I think everyone has spoken. We wanted to speak. So
now I'll call the vote. All those in favor. And
opposed. And that carries unanimously. So
there are no motions. There are no notices of motion.
Is there any other business. None. Uh, there was no
correspondence. The next meeting of the planning committee is scheduled
for Thursday, April 2nd, 2026 at 6 p. m. Do
I have a mover in secondary to a turn? Moving
by Councillor Steven, seconded by Councillor Sanek, all those in
favor. And that passes. Good night, everyone.