Transcript - Heritage Designations Approved, Delayed - Comité du patrimoine bâti

Heritage Designations Approved, Delayed - Comité du patrimoine bâti — le 10 mars 2026

Sound check. Sound check. Sound check. sound check. Good morning everybody. We'll start in one minute. Good morning everybody and welcome to the Built Heritage Committee meeting of March 10th, 2026. I'd like to call the members to order. This hybrid meeting is being facilitated through Zoom and is being held on the traditional territory of the Algangquin Anishnab nation, the original custodians of the unseated land in which the city of Ottawa is located. We extend our respect to all First Nations, Inuit, and Matei peoples for their valuable past and present contributions to this land. Since this committee meeting is being streamed live on the Ottawa City uh council YouTube channel, I'd like to remind participants to please keep your microphones muted until I call upon you to speak. For those participating here in the committee room, please use the microphone in front of you and keep your computer muted. I would like uh I will provide each committee member with the opportunity to ask questions or comment on each item in the order in which they raise their hand in Zoom. For panelists, the raise hand option is found at the bottom of the participants list. For those calling in, press star 9 to raise your hand. The committee coordinator and I will be watching for those cues. Members are also reminded to submit any motions, visual supports, or declarations of interest in writing to the coordinator at their earliest opportunity. Although the deadlines have passed for residents to register to speak and provide written submissions to this committee, residents can make written submissions to council. A reminder that if participants are having technical issues with their Zoom connection, they may call in using the backup telephone number provided by the coordinator. We did receive regrets from member Bournes. Could the committee coordinator call the role? Councelor Kelly present. Councelor Leaper, good morning. Councelor Trustster here. Member Barnes, member LGO here. Member Madigan here. Member Quinn here. Vice Chair Blunt. Hello. And Chair King here. You have quorum, Mr. Chair. Uh, thank you so much. Declarations of interest. Are there any declarations of interest this morning? Seeing none, confirmation of minutes. Are the minutes of the Built Heritage Committee meeting of February 10th confirmed? Confirmed. Thank you so much. For this meeting agenda, please note uh that when first drafted, all planning, development, and building services reports had a council consideration date of March 11th, 2026. There are no time-sensitive timeline requirements that would be impacted should these items rise to the next regular council meeting of April 8th, 2026. Therefore, I would note that all reports from this meeting will rise to council on April 8th, 2026. Our first item is designation of the Ellis House at 2400 Bank Street under part four of the Ontario Heritage Act. uh for the committee's awareness. A minor correction was made to this report further to the city clerk's delegated authority as set out in in schedule C section 8 of the delegation of authority bylaw 2024 uh-265 to update comments by the ward counselors on page six of this report. In terms of this item, there are no delegations registered to speak. Despite that, we did receive correspondence that was circulated uh from Heritage Ottawa. Uh does the committee want to hold this item for presentation? Seeing none, is this item carried? Carried. So will be submitted to council on April 8th, 2026. Our next item is designation of 8679 Bank Street under part four of the Ontario Heritage Act. Uh once again for the committee's awareness, a minor correction was also made to this report. uh further to uh the city clerk's delegated authority as set out in section in schedule C section 8 of delegation of authority bylaw 2024 uh-265 to update the reports background or page two and consultation page 5 sections. Um there are once again no delegations registered for this item. Uh we did receive correspondence from Heritage Ottawa. Um, does the committee wish to hold this item? Seeing uh no interest in holding the item, is this item carried? Carried. Uh, so this report will be submitted to council on April 8th, 2026. Our next item is heritage permit for 180 Landsdown Road South. Uh there is uh the only delegation or speaker that is registered is uh Christopher Simmons uh from Simmons Architecture and he's really only here to respond to questions if required. Uh there was only correspondence uh from Heritage Ottawa on this item. Um there is a presentation for this item if committee wishes to receive one. Uh does committee wish to hold this item? See? Okay. So, we will hold uh that item. Okay. So, sure. So, uh we'll hold that uh just for questions to staff. And then the uh next item is heritage permits issued through delegated authority. Uh there is no presentation for this item. There are no delegations. Uh we did receive uh correspondence on this item from Heritage Ottawa. Uh does the uh committee uh wish to uh just accept the recommendation and carry this item? Yeah. Sure. Carried. Carried. So uh this report will be submitted to council on April 8th, 2026. Uh we can go back to uh 180 Landsdown Road South for questions to staff. member LGO. Yes. Um I I I'm hesitant a little bit because I'm not entirely sure this really is within our mandate within the heritage committee, but I I wondered if the city of Ottawa had um disincentives for full building demolition in this case. Um in in the case where yes, perhaps there's mold inside the building, but where there can be reuse of particular materials such as windows, you know, garage doors, um you know, there are certainly lots and lots of things that can be salvaged from this building. And I wonder what the city's stance is on uh a demolition of this scope and size. Um through you Mr. Chair, we don't have a specific policy around salvage of materials. It is something that we have included as condition of of demolition from time to time particularly on um historic buildings that would be demolished as opposed to this is considered to be a grade two building. Um, you know, obviously it's something we encourage from a sustainability perspective. I think one of the issues we run into uh municipally is that we don't have a system set up to put these some put put this stuff somewhere or facilitate the reuse of it. And I think that's one of the big barriers right now. Um, so I think that the the long and short of it is that no, there is no specific policy. Um, but it is something that we sort of generally encourage. Just to be clear, the the current uh the owners of this house will just have to pay for fees to hire, you know, a dump or a like a bin in their in their garage and then they have to pay for the additional disposal fees as if it was any sort of construction waste. That's correct. that. Okay, thank you so much. Uh, councelor Leaper, just to follow up on that um question, is there a statutory authority to have some kind of a reuse bylaw in place uh under the Heritage Act? Um, heritage or I think there's also the Environment and Remediation Act that might have I I can only speak for the Heritage Act. I think at this point would be that the answer is I don't think there's a specific authority for a salvage bylaw. We have in the past when we've included it, it's been required as a condition of approval. Um, and we've tied it back to, you know, this is a 19th century building that maybe is being torn down, but it's got some brick or, you know, wood windows or something that could be salvaged that is ti that you can tie back to the heritage value. And I think that's, you know, we would have some authority there. I think it would be much more difficult um for a grade 2 building. Beyond that, I think we'd have to go and and chat with our colleagues um who would be responsible for other sort of environmental type things that are more general and not necessarily related to heritage. Thank you. And I see that the uh architect wants to uh provide some comments. So, uh, with, um, uh, um, uh, the, uh, approval of the of the committee, uh, you know, we'd be pleased to hear some input from, from you, Mr. Chair. I believe the question is whether building materials will be salvaged to the greatest extent possible. And it is our practice uh, along with the contractors with which we work to uh, to put that into effect. It is uh there's many items in the house. I mentioned garage doors, kitchen cabinetry, bathroom cabinetry, uh plumbing fixtures, electrical fixtures, all of these things will be repurposed to the maximum extent possible. This is a benefit in that it costs less to uh for dumpsters. Um the materials are donated usually through uh the Habitat Habitat for Humanity Restore. That's our standard practice uh for us and all of the contractors that we work with in this type of process. Uh the clients get a tax receipt for the value of all the materials that were donated. Occasionally, you know, someone's brother or cousin wants to take something for their cottage or something like this. But yes, the house will be stripped of anything of value um that can be removed. the actual fabric of the house which is largely stucco which probably has asbestous in it. Um and you know wood which is either splintered or moldy is not going to be salvageable for deconstruction but to the best practice possible that's available to us economically we will be carrying that out as a matter of standard practice. Thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you so much. Uh we appreciate that that input and that approach. uh uh frankly uh ensuring that um you know it's uh that we're taking the uh seeing this application take the uh uh best environmental approach in terms of uh mitigating negative effects as well as uh obviously it's an efficient uh approach uh in terms of in terms of this file and we also appreciate uh because I've seen uh those conditions uh written into uh different uh agreements ments and applications um around um the reuse of of materials. So I I do appreciate the work that staff undertakes on certain files in that area. Uh are there any other questions uh to uh staff or to our our registered speaker? Thank you for the clarification. Oh member Madigan. Thank you chair. Just question to staff. Uh to clarify an aspect of the uh the regulations or the guidelines for the uh the district. Um is there any requirement to to match more to the existing uh architectural lines on the street? The reason I'm asking is like the the new design, you know, it's quite nice design. It's a flat roof and I was wondering was there sort of any real need to match the other houses on the street which have a a slope roof on top? Uh through you chair. There's there's no strict requirement to match the exact roof line. Um they did provide um a streetscape um uh elevation which shows um compatible heights with the surrounding properties. There are examples of other flat roofs um in Rock Cliff um and so we felt the flat roof was appropriate in this uh instance. Ke generally throughout the whole district not necessarily the street itself. Okay. Just I want to clarify for my own benefit what were sort of the limitations and how then uh this roof uh this roof was flat and how that came into like a neighborhood that has slope roofs. But if it complies with the guidelines then that's great. Thank you. And maybe if I can just add one comment, I think one of the things and and I'm sure you know Rockcliffe, but one of the things about Rockcliffe is it's very mixed architecturally. And so that's part of the reason that the plan focuses more on compatibility rather than kind of like style perhaps more than some of the other districts. You know, in Centertown, we say you should use red brick. In rock cliffs, you should use natural materials because natural materials are kind of the the uh but it can be in a in a contemporary style that sort of the character and the noble materials and that sort of thing. So it is it can be a bit challenging to um to see the compatibility but I think when you when you look at the datam lines and the materiality and that sort of thing that's that's really what we're looking for in Rockcliffe. Thank you very much. Uh thank you so much uh for uh those questions. I don't see any other hands raised on this item. So is this uh recommendation carried? Carried. Uh so this report will be submitted to council on April 8th, 2026. Uh there are no in camera items this morning. Uh though we do have uh two items uh that have uh information previously distributed uh designation refusals for spring uh 2026 as well a response to uh my direction around uh 125 Lake View Drive. In terms of notices of motions, are there any uh new notices of motions? Seeing none, are there any inquiries? Seeing none, is there any other business? Seeing none, we are adjourned. Uh, the next meeting of the Built Heritage Committee will be held on Tuesday, April 14th, 2026. Thank you so much, everybody. I think that's a record. here. Mercy

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